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Weird... I though I already left a comment on this talk page. Perhaps it was on one of the dozens of other articles that are like this one. Anyway, the deletion of this is quite justified. We don't need an article that lists every appearance of any dragons in the series, just like we don't need an article list of all dragons that ever existed. For these matters we have '''categories'''. Furthermore, just look at this article and its mix and match structure. Too many different subjects are mixed and pretendedly treated as one, when they have actually nothing to do with each other. There is a section that deals with the life-span of dragons. Even if we disregard that we don't even know if those dragons all have the same expected life span: The section features a picture of Bonetail. Nowhere in PM2 is even made a reference about Bonetail's age (plus, the name "Bonetail" suggests that it might have always looked like that, making the section pointless) , so drawing conclusions about a dragon's life span from this particular individual is impossible at best. This example shows the condition of the article pretty well. It is an article without structure, so we better do away with it. Or even better: Split the article and give the info to the specific dragons it actually belongs to. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 13:48, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
Weird... I though I already left a comment on this talk page. Perhaps it was on one of the dozens of other articles that are like this one. Anyway, the deletion of this is quite justified. We don't need an article that lists every appearance of any dragons in the series, just like we don't need an article list of all dragons that ever existed. For these matters we have '''categories'''. Furthermore, just look at this article and its mix and match structure. Too many different subjects are mixed and pretendedly treated as one, when they have actually nothing to do with each other. There is a section that deals with the life-span of dragons. Even if we disregard that we don't even know if those dragons all have the same expected life span: The section features a picture of Bonetail. Nowhere in PM2 is even made a reference about Bonetail's age (plus, the name "Bonetail" suggests that it might have always looked like that, making the section pointless) , so drawing conclusions about a dragon's life span from this particular individual is impossible at best. This example shows the condition of the article pretty well. It is an article without structure, so we better do away with it. Or even better: Split the article and give the info to the specific dragons it actually belongs to. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 13:48, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
:So I assume this means articles like [[Elephant]], [[Dog]], [[Dinosaur]], etc should also be deleted. (Other examples of what this would apply to: [[Frog]], [[Polar Bear]], [[Pig]], [[Apple]]) --{{User:Marcelagus/sig}}
:So I assume this means articles like [[Elephant]], [[Dog]], [[Dinosaur]], etc should also be deleted. (Other examples of what this would apply to: [[Frog]], [[Polar Bear]], [[Pig]], [[Apple]]) --{{User:Marcelagus/sig}}
== Reorganize ==
I think we should just reorganize this article for a couple reasons.
1#. Many blue links that direct to this page would become red links.
2#. I do not think you could recover this article again if you delete it.
3#. If you deleted it and then recovered it the process of putting new links to and from this page would be hard and frustrating, as one letter can make the difference between a red link and a blue link.

Revision as of 22:23, May 19, 2010

Split Dragon (Yoshi Island) and Dragon (Species)

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Ok, I don't know how to tell this, but I think that we messed this article with something official and not official in my opinion. I mean, we have Dragon seen in yoshi island, and I assume that is the official name for it, but I find that all the "dragons" seen in the Marioverse are called Dragons as well and now the article has been disorganized by adding this consideration. I propose to split the Dragon seen in the yoshi series and the dragons as a species (or a therm in general) seen in the Marioverse because I don't see if this name refers both those seen in the yoshi series and all in the mario world. Got it?

Proposer: Coincollector (talk)
Deadline: March 12 2010, 23:59

Split

  1. Coincollector (talk)
  2. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) per Collectorcoin and the proposal.
  3. FourPaperHeroes (talk) per Coincollector and the proposal.
  4. Gamefreak75 (talk) Per CC.
  5. Mr bones (talk) Per all.
  6. KS3 (talk) per all.
  7. Walkazo (talk) - Per Coincollector.

Don't Split

Comments

Can the Dragon (species) article still have a link to the Dragon (Yoshi Island) article? -FourPaperHeroes 00:58, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Of course.

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Maybe it would be better to leave the general dragon page here, as plain "Dragon", since "Dragon (Species)" is a misnomer: the various dragons seen in the Mario series are not members of any one species. - Walkazo 00:52, 27 February 2010 (EST)

OK, not exactly I try to refer dragons as species. As you can read the words in brackets, or have an article with the name "Dragon" as a general therm.

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Deletion?

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Why is this being deleted? Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC

Can't you wait five minutes for me to say my reason? Anyhow, onto to my reason. This article squishes TONS of different dragons into one article, despite none of then having any relation other than being dragons. Heck, I doubt the Mario series ever called any of them dragons, so this is a speculative article. So, I say this should be deleted. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
Well, as soon as I saw the deletion template, I just went straight to the talk page and asked why it's being deleted, that's all. And yes, the series never stated them as dragons, and (probably) soon everyone's going to make articles of all the birds or all the fish or whatever. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC
Penguin, Elephant, Poop, Garlic, there are tons of articles like this one. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
Wow. Why aren't the Poop and Elephant articles pending deletion then (all insignificant, especially Poop)? Penguin is alright, it's conjectural. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC
Makes no sense to be deleting this article, since dragons are just another type of species. Of course, an article of speculative nature doesn't work with the Mario Wiki. RedYoshiMK7Signature.png M&SG (talk) 08:31, 11 May 2010 (EDT)

Weird... I though I already left a comment on this talk page. Perhaps it was on one of the dozens of other articles that are like this one. Anyway, the deletion of this is quite justified. We don't need an article that lists every appearance of any dragons in the series, just like we don't need an article list of all dragons that ever existed. For these matters we have categories. Furthermore, just look at this article and its mix and match structure. Too many different subjects are mixed and pretendedly treated as one, when they have actually nothing to do with each other. There is a section that deals with the life-span of dragons. Even if we disregard that we don't even know if those dragons all have the same expected life span: The section features a picture of Bonetail. Nowhere in PM2 is even made a reference about Bonetail's age (plus, the name "Bonetail" suggests that it might have always looked like that, making the section pointless) , so drawing conclusions about a dragon's life span from this particular individual is impossible at best. This example shows the condition of the article pretty well. It is an article without structure, so we better do away with it. Or even better: Split the article and give the info to the specific dragons it actually belongs to. - Gabumon from the Digimon franchise Gabumon(talk) 13:48, 19 May 2010 (EDT)

So I assume this means articles like Elephant, Dog, Dinosaur, etc should also be deleted. (Other examples of what this would apply to: Frog, Polar Bear, Pig, Apple) --Marcelagus (TCE)

Reorganize

I think we should just reorganize this article for a couple reasons.

1#. Many blue links that direct to this page would become red links.

2#. I do not think you could recover this article again if you delete it.

3#. If you deleted it and then recovered it the process of putting new links to and from this page would be hard and frustrating, as one letter can make the difference between a red link and a blue link.