Talk:Mario Kart Wii

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Mario Kart Wii Discussion Archives
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PAL to NTSC

Hello there everyone. :)

Now that I've got almost every character and nearly a * rank, I'm turning my attention to this article. I notice that PAL players have already got the basics down, but according to the Template:Link, we must use NTSC as the main and mention any PAL differences as the side. This doesn't just affect DK's Snowboard Cross to DK Summit, mind you:

• Quite a few vehicles have different names: Rapide --> Zip Zip, Nitrocycle --> Sneakster, etc. Stats are still the same, though.
• Competitions on Mario Kart Wii channel are called Tournaments

I would think there are other small tidbits as well. If I could get some more NTSC players to find all the differences between this and the PAL version, that would be great. :) Wa _T^C_@^Y 11:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

Argg! I have said it 2 times before and I will say it again. Use both the PAL and NTSC names. PAL names aren't less official than the NTSC names. If we use only NTSC names it will be confusing for PAL readers. And if we only use PAL names, it's confusing for NTSC readers. rend (talk) (edits)

I said NTSC as the primary names and PAL as the secondary. We can't treat them equally, but close to it is fine. Wa _T^C_@^Y 14:52, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

I agree using both names is MUCH better as this was one of the only european pages as everyday this site is becoming more of an american site than an american AND a european site we should do a vote to decide what to do BEFORE we take action Superluigigalaxy 18:43 8 May 2008

Finally, something has been done to deal with this. I think we should change the WiiVehicles template to NTSC naming. For PAL people, we can have a redirect. I've already seen a redirect from the Bon Bon to the Sugarscoot. That way, both can be happy. EnPeached 15:36, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

I think I have to agree with superluigigalaxy, because until something is officially chosen, the articles are going to keep on changing. I just saw someone add both names to the main article, and that really can't be done. Maybe we should make it a proposal? EnPeached 16:20, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

The new vehicle chart is a step in the right direction but having two versions of the chart for PAL and NTSC is not gonna work. Names are the only difference, and the two big obnoxious charts is a lot of extra space for a simple difference of naming. Wholahay 15:56, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Tricks? Stunts?

What are they called in the game & manual in English? My version only knows stunts. The article seems to know both. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:13, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

They're called tricks :) EnPeached 16:18, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

I checked back my German manual and it still reads "Stunts". Maybe add a note to PAL difference and use "Tricks" on the other parts of the article. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:21, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

Tricks, stunts both have nearly the same meaning. I don't think we need to go out of our way just the note that.Knife (talk) 12:29, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

I lost you in the second sentence. What should we do exactly? - Cobold (talk · contribs) 12:33, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

Do nothing. Its fine to use them interchangeably.Knife (talk) 14:51, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

twinkle stars an item?

when i clicked on the twinkle star i came up as the shooting star "item", can someone tell me why this has been done please! Superluigigalaxy

Sounds like you are referring to the pipe trick. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 05:32, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

-- 19:55, 12 May 2008 (EDT) Baby Luigi:Unlock 8 Expert Staff Ghost, but like!!? I do not understand!

It means that eight of the staff records for Time Trial must be unlocked, but I'm not sure how you unlock those. Stumpers! 23:22, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

-- 16:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT) Thanks stumpers!

-- 16:33, 13 May 2008 (EDT)Hello!, well, and the mode: Bob-omb Blast of Mario Kart Double Dash!!, return in Mario Kart Wii?

Not that I am aware. Stumpers! 23:22, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

-- 16:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT) uummm..

There are two kinds of Staff Ghosts, Juniors and Experts. After you select a course on Time Trials, you can see your Ghost and the Junior SG. If you get a certain time, which is about 4 seconds faster than the Junior SG on most courses, it will say "You have unlocked an Expert Staff Ghost". If it says that, the Junior SG will be replaced by the Expert SG. And it doesn't mark the courses where you got an Expert SG. And the only Battle Modes are Coin Runners and Balloon Battle Freekhenstra

-- 16:44, 14 May 2008 (EDT)Aahh,is easy!.

-- 16:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT)Oh buuu, I like the mode: Bomb-omb Blast,mmmm, well, Thanks, thanks, boys!!

Trivia

I'm putting this up EARLY, cuz I see a horrible edit/flame war coming up between Garlic Man and ForeverDaisy09. Talk it out here before you choose to start an edit war. My Bloody Valentine

Size classes America-only?

I checked the manual, and I checked the game, and they both use Light - Medium - Heavy for me. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 11:45, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

No. The manual uses the weight-class system. But when I played the game and I unlockt a kart or bike, it said for example You have unlockt the Large kart Aero Glider. rend (talk) (edits)

Read the title. My version, the European one, definitely uses weight classes, in manual and the unlock screens. I figure that the weight classes were changed to size classes in the American version, which was released later on. This would also explain why the manual uses weight classes nevertheless. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 17:35, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

Yes – on unlock screens it says "You unlocked a small size kart, the Blue Falcon". Wa _T^C_@^Y 17:49, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

Please note, Cobold, that Arend is European. :| My Bloody Valentine

But from where in Europe? Stumpers! 17:56, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

I am Dutch (Nederlands). But in almost every Nintendo game (and all Mario games), there isn't Dutch language option. The game uses the English language. rend (talk) (edits)

Gotcha. Thanks very much! So what we might be looking at is that the English language versions use the big/little classes. I wonder if just German version uses the classic system or if the French/Spanish/etc. versions do, too? Stumpers! 14:10, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

My version says that I have unlocked the "Blue Falcon (Leicht)". The game uses Leicht, Mittel and Schwer, which definitely translate to Light, Middleweight and Heavy and not to size classes. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 14:26, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Don't worry, I wasn't doubting you! :) Stumpers! 17:46, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

In the American Spanish version of the game, the karts are "Pequeños", "Medianos" and "Grandes", which means, "Small", "Medium" and "Large". And, anyway, the size of your Mii is decided by the size. I already make the experiment. (I'm latinamerican by the way. Sorry for the grammars horrors) --GinnyN 20:27, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

If you change the language of the Wii, the language of the games change too (I don't know if it works on American Wii's). There are 3 language options (6 on PAL Wii's). English, French, Spanich, (German, Italian and Dutch). It's only possible to choose the Japanese language on JP Wii's. You can change language in the Wii option menu. rend (talk) (edits)

Just a reminder, the standard vehicles have S, M, and L to tell the difference. EnPeached 20:13, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Staff Ghosts

Shouldn't we make a table for the normal staff ghosts and the expert staff ghosts? The staff ghosts were listed in Mario Kart DS, I think we should list them here unless we list them on the courses' main articles. Is this a good idea? EnPeached 21:37, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I think they fit best on this page. We should list the driver and time of the junior staff ghost, the unlock time for the expert staff ghost and the driver and the time of the expert staff ghost itself. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 13:17, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

We should also list what kart/bike they use. The kart/bike that the staff use is different for the juniors and the experts, although the character stays the same. Also, I'm not quite sure how to find out the unlock time because usually you have to get about 5 seconds more (just an average), but none of it is exact. Should they be combined with the courses, or have their own section? EnPeached 13:21, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

There should be a separate section for the ghosts. Also, some people at GameFAQs (scroll far down) seem to have found the unlock times. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 15:42, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

That's actually just the time they got. I did some of the ghosts with a time that wasn't as fast and I still unlocked the fast ghost. EnPeached 18:49, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

I've actually already started work on a normal staff and expert staff table. The unlock times shouldn't be included because they aren't real times. Those are just the times the person who made the faq got. EnPeached 20:55, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, the unlock times on the faq aren't official or exact in any way. I got worse times on some courses, but still unlocked it. I think a table with the normal times and expert times, along with the character and bike/kart, and the driver's name would be sufficient.Marcelagus (T • C • E)

Don't do unlock times, they are all subjective right now. It would take a poll of thousands of drivers (who actually remembered their unlock times) to narrow it down. Wa _T^C_@^Y 10:59, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

I just finished the tables, but the section I made probably needs alot of editing EnPeached 20:11, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Actually, not too much, good job overall :) Wa _T^C_@^Y 21:26, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Thank you :) Should the ghost mode on the Mario Kart Channel be added to the ghost section? EnPeached 21:28, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

STOP!

Whoever deleted the Trivia Q I added shouldn't do it. It is TRUE! When you choose, say, Mario, in DD, he will do the EXACT SAME ANIMATION if you were to PUT THE CURSOR on top of Mario in Wii. After you choose another character and kart in DD, the animation Mario does will be, once again, EXACTLY THE SAME if you CHOOSE Mario in Wii.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Supernicknoboy428 (talk).

But is that notable? - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:07, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

I think it is. I saw it on the article, and went directly to DD to see if it was true, and it was! I thought it was kinda cool. Z3r0 Tw0

I really don't think reused animations are notable except when they occur across two series. Mario Party reuses animations all the time, for example. Stumpers! 00:43, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

final screen

i found a pic of the fianl congratulations screen. should i put it on the page? File:2437432579 86cda5a78d.jpg

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I don't see why not. Of course, it may be considered a "spoiler"... NMRodo

I would say to put it in the character section. -Moonshine

Yeap, this image have better quality Birdoshi

Tournaments?

This question just rose in my head, but I couldn't help but wonder... Should we list the tournament challenges somewhere on the article? It's early, so we still have them all. In fact, only the third one started today, correct? NMRodo

No, the second one ended today, the next one will most likely start June 1st. And yes, they should be in the article, they're like the MKDS Missions, but online. To avoid confusion, they're called Competitions in Europe and Tournaments in the US. Freekhenstra

Hello there!!!,please, how can I unlock the mirror mode?? Birdoshi

The answer should be in the article, but strangely it says nothing about unlocking requirements for Mirror Mode. My guess would be to beat every cup in in 50cc, 100cc, and 150cc. Also, please do not ask questions like this on the talk page, the talk page is for discussing improvements for the attached article.Knife (talk) 00:27, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

All gold cups in 50cc, 100cc and 150cc are required. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 13:02, 2 June 2008 (EDT)

That wrong: Only Winning or Stars in 150cc cups are needed.

Long story: A few weeks ago I needed a second account (have more tha 30 mkw friends). In respect of both meanings I started with the 150cc cups (and do not touch 50cc and 100cc), take star ranks in all cups and as result the mirror was unlocked. I don't know if winning is enough but stars in all cups are enough. Because of the comment here I have not edited the article yet. Wiimm 11:53, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

There's a new tournament announced! Looking at the picture's (found here: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/rmcj/tournament/index.html), you have to collect coins on Coconut Mall. Freekhenstra

Not only that, but karts only...grr, you really have to retry a VS Tournament a lot to get a no blue-shell, mushroom-aided time. Wa _T^C_@^Y

Another tournament announced! See link above for pictures and (Japanese) description. It seems to be a VS Race on Twilight House from DS. Freekhenstra

Unlock times

I have bought the Japanese Official guide book, and it is listed with precise unlock times for fast staff ghosts. So, I'm just making it clear that these arren't from some Gamer site, and it's official. I'll start adding them now. Marcelagus (T • C • E)

Also, I have a concern about the tournaments section. Right now, it's relatively small with only 7 tournaments, but 2 per month means 24 per year. That section could get massive pretty quickly; Are we still going to keep each tournament the same size? Marcelagus (T • C • E)

Discussion of my (Wiimm) last time changes (expert ghosts)

• In one of my accounts the race time for sherbet land is 02:42.536 and the expert ghost is unlocked. And this means that the Nintendo Official Guide book ist wrong at this point. If you want I make some screen shoots later at home.
• If you take a look at your account you can see that the expert ghost time of mario circuit 3 is 1:26.659 and not 1:29.670.

Wiimm 01:13, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

• Take a look at this picture and you see that my time is the correct one. This can be proofed by everyone. And this means that the Nintendo Official Guide has at least one or perhaps more errors.
• The next picture shows the best time of my second account. And with this best time the expert an MII-B is unlocked. And this is an other error of the guide.

Wiimm 11:53, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Are there possibly differences between the European and the American versions? I remember using an American guide for the staff ghosts, and all the times were wrong. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 13:02, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Yes it could be -- but i didn't belive it. 63 Nintendo ghosts have the same time but one is different? For Mario Circuit 3 it can be verified: An american guy may compare the time.

The unlock times is more complex. I collect here in Germany many records too find out the unlock times on an empiric way. 31 times are near by but always smaller than the times here. The differences are between 1 msec up to 1400 msec. 14 differences are smaller than 100 msec. This is a good sign for my empiric work. Only my sherbet time is greater and that time was verified by me. I think this is an error in the guide. --- Wiimm 17:47, 13 August 2008 (EDT)