MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Super Smash Bros.

Super Smash Bros.

Support

1. Marcelagus (T • C • E) -- I think it follows all of the guidelines, and the Character, Stage, and Items sections are organized. The only thing I'm concerned about is the Training, Bonus Practice, and VS mode sections could be longer. Otherwise, great article.
2. Palkia47 - The article seems to look fine after the little expanding rewrites I did. While it doesn't have the information the modes need, the rest of the article looks good.
3. DaWeegeeManLooks really nice except the none playable characters isn't very organized but i'll fix that!
4. mrsdaisyluigi (talk) per all.
5. Starry Parakarry - Organized, plenty of info and pics, very informative, and is basically as good as we can get it.

Oppose

1. Time Questions: Instead of stating that the game was "very successful", which is basically POV, there should better be a "Reception" section. There is no image of a Crate in the Items section. Also, I think someone should read through the whole article again and add more links (e.g. link "Donkey Kong series" to Donkey Kong (series), "Warp Pipes" to Warp Pipe, "lives" to Extra Life etc.), correct typos ("Bob-ombs will starts...", "abilites", also we should decide whether to capitalize the word "series" or not), and also "outrageous Nintendo-themed stages" in the openening paragraph sounds very strange and POV-ish to me.
2. Cobold (talk) - there is no source for the characters "initially planned but left out because of time contraints" in the Trivia. I've seen this claims often enough, and each time people failed to give a source, with the excuse that "it's a known thing". That doesn't stop it being unveryfied.

Comments

I'll see if I can expand those sections, GM. Palkia47

Done! :) --Palkia47 12:15, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Thanks! (I wish I had the game itself) Marcelagus (T • C • E)

I fixed that little bit(I wish my copy wasn't stolen).DaWeegeeMan

TimeQ: "very succesful" is not pov... Would you disagree that games like Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 64, Super Smash Bros. Melee, Halo 3, Super Mario Galaxy, and such, were "Not very successful"? Anyway, fine, I'll start fixing those. Marcelagus (T • C • E)

Also, I can't find artwork for the crate... is it vital for the article to be featured? Marcelagus (T • C • E) EDIT: Image found.

It is POV, since there is no objective way of classifying games into "successful" and "not successful". Stating that it was successful is your point of view. I don't know if the image for the crate is "vital", but it definitely looks strange when a featured articles states that an "image [is] needed". Your solution certainly looks better than before, but I don't know if it's good to merge these items into one. I've only played the games once, and that's been years ago, so I won't oppose for this, of course. Have you really read through the whole article again? You only fixed the issues I pointed out, but these were only examples. Also, please don't edit my oppose, I can do this myself. Just to clarify: I'm not opposing in order to annoy you. I just don't want to see an article featured that isn't "the best we have to offer" and therefore casts a damning light on the wiki (put exaggeratedly, of course). Time Questions 14:02, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

Sorry I crossed out your opposal by my self; I didn't know there were rules about that. Also, the definition of a succesful game is a game that sells for more money than it took to make total. Anything else is considered a failure (e.g. Virtual Boy). As for the items, I would have also perferred if I could make seperate tables for the container items, but that's the only image I could find. Also, container items only contain other items (large ones may contain small containers, h/e). They can damage other players, sure, but not in a unique way (Just a throw and hit type of item). I actually did read through the article again, fixing as I went. Did I miss something? I even linked to things like "Star" in star rod, although Starman was already linked. Sorry if I did miss something. But I can honestly say I read the whole thing over. I know you're not trying to annoy me, TimeQ, and I see your point about the "Damning Light". We both just want to make this wiki a better place to be. Marcelagus (T • C • E)