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| ===Allow cameo '''appearences''' to be documented in character articles===
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| The Cameo page currently includes numerous examples of purposeful Mario appearences by Nintendo. These incude his appearences in those sports games )can't remember the names) Mike Tyson's Punch-Out Kirby Superstar, etc. I propose that we incorporate these "official" cameo's into the main characters article, as a way to include more info.
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| '''Proposer''': [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
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| '''Deadline''': July 1, 2008, 17:00
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| ====Support====
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| #[[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]per above
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| #{{User|Blitzwing}} - Per Above (Ahahaha).
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| #{{User|Stumpers}} - We do the same for Nintendo cameos within Mario/Donkey Kong/Yoshi games (see Link or Sonic), so why not? Would this also include the official crossovers NBA Street V3, SSX on Tour, and Itadiki Street DS? I suppose it should since we already include Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games.
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| #{{User|Cobold}} per all of them.
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| #{{User|Ninjayoshi}} - Vote Change. Yeah, after reading Stumpers' vote, it makes sense. Per all, and I agree with Blitzwing in the comments.
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| #{{User|Dryest bowser}} - per all
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| #{{User|Glitchman}} - I think this would be a good idea for minor characters like Stanley the Bugman, Donkey Kong Jr., ect., but characters like Mario, Luigi, and Peach already have sooooo many appearances, why bother? So in short, no for major characters, yes for minor ones.
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| #{{User|MelissaMarioSister}} - Per Ultimatetoad and Stumpers. In response to Glitchman: yes, the main characters have many appearances, but this is a reference site. I think the goal here is to be as complete as possible.
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| #{{User|Iron Maiden}} - Great idea. Per all.
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| #{{User|P. Trainer}} Per all
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| #{{User|Tucayo}} Per all, its a great idea for having more information.
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| #{{User|Ambo100}} I support, Infomation should be displayed like that.
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| #{{User|1337Yoshi}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all.
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| ====Oppose====
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| ====Comments====
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| I dunno. If we listed '''every''' time Mario has been seen/mentioned in a tv show, the page would be (even more) horribly long. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 12:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
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| :I am not suggesting that we mention every Mention, or even every appearence. For instance several series feature characters who dress in a style similar to Mario: these can be left out of the article. However, when Mario (or any other character, for that matter) makes a full-fledged appearence and has an actual role in an episode, it should be mentioned. - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
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| ::Maybe we should cover official cameos on that page and leave unoffical ones out? It would keep it short. {{User|Stumpers}}
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| Hmmmmm..... what would classify as an official cameo? - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
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| :Indeed, what's an official cameo? One put into a non-Mario game by Nintendo themselves? One Nintendo gave permission to? (those sports games for the GameCube with Mario, Luigi and Peach in it). - {{User|Cobold}} 13:31, 24 June 2008 (EDT)
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| ::That was what I was thinking. Thanks for defining it! {{User|Stumpers}}
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| Ultimatetoad, please always add a reason to your votes, even if you're the proposer. {{User|Time Q}}
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| But I don't '''wanna''' - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
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| :As much as I'm all in favor of forcing voters to give their reasons, this is ridiculous. {{User|Blitzwing}}
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| ::Not really, it could prevent users from seeing the "unreasoned" vote and thinking "Oh hey, there's someone who doesn't give a reason, so I don't have to either". It's like the "Per ''[insert user]''" thing, almost everyone uses it now, most of them just copying what other users do. {{User|Time Q}}
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| I was just joking. I dit put a reason, even if it is just : please refer above (ok, so maybe it's just "above, you know what it means.
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| I think that Stumpers had a good idea: non-mario games which Mario appears in (and games which are made by nintendo) should be incorporated into the character page. Everything else can stay on [[Cameo]]. I will change my proposal to reflect this. - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
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| :Currently, NBA V3 and SSX on Tour (I believe those are the names) are both on the Game Sightings page. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 09:22, 26 June 2008 (EDT)
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| erm, well, thos are "official" sightings too, so they should probably be moved.... I mean, we have articles for the ''games''. don't we? - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
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| :At one time we did, which is probably what you were remembering. With the introduction of the game sightings article, someone merged them. I'd be for separating them, though. {{User|Stumpers}}
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| ::Since discerning official and unofficial cameos is gonna get hairy, why not just include a short, concise list of all the cameos on the page, minus generic allusions to the character by non-Nintendo/video game sources (as Ultimatetoad mentioned earlier). The list would be something like this:
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| ::*Tennis - Mario is the referee.
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| ::*Banjo-Kazooie - Mario is mentioned by someone (can't remembr who).
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| ::*Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow/Fire Red/Leaf Green - [[Mario and Wario]] is depicted on a TV.
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| ::Admittedly for [[Mario]] it's basically a streamlined version of [[Cameo]], but for the other characters it'd be more original and usefull. - {{User|Walkazo}}
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| Well:
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| Any appearence/mention on a game for a NINTENDO CONSOLE will be in the main character article. These include everything Walkazo just said as well as the ones listed at the top and... some other ones.
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| Any appearence/mention on a non-nintendo console, show, movie, etc., will stay on the cameo page.
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| Obviously I'm excluding games or shows where Mario is a main character, like Hotel Mario & the SMBSS. - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
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| :Of course: those are in the actual Appearance sections. - {{User|Walkazo}}
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