User talk:Mario/Archive 11

Super Mario Bros. Wonder!!!
00:19, November 2, 2023 (EDT)

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These pages were cleansed by defenders of Mushroom Kingdom from Wario. They are marked by their heads here, proudly. First few archives contain a bunch of useless, embarrassing, silly stuff. Venture there in your mobile phone at your own risk.

Congrats on 10 Archives!

For reaching this chatty milestone, here is a comically tiny Attacky Sack: Somethingone (talk) 21:55, April 26, 2022 (EDT)

Why thank you! Have you heard about some really distant accordion music? Well here's a visual representation of one: Why, it is as big as the period at the end of this sentence! Hope it gets destroyed by some monchers AND that Attacky Sack. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 22:04, April 26, 2022 (EDT)

RE:Cowboy Wario has wandered in your talk page!

He managed to find out a new equation after drinking a cup of spoiled milk? Here's his reward and research grant that was definitely not bought from Junk.

Look, he's already made another new equation! + + =

WildWario (talk) 23:58, May 1, 2022 (EDT)

Holy cow, Mushroom Kingdom is moving fast with its technological advancements! What's next, a backpack and a mountain creating a new Mario Kart racer?? He needs another research grant, preferably one that can help him buy a new used microwave oven to help him cook up more equations. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 00:23, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

After buying him too many food and items, he found the most amazing equation of the year that solves Mario's halloween costume issue for the 17th Moo Moo Halloween Tour, allowing him to win the 15th Moo Moo and King Boo's Moo Moo Boo Boo Costume Contest!

( + - 99 + + ) × 2 = WildWario (talk) 00:50, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Hm, you'd think the axe isn't necessary since Mario's head is already detached from his body. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 18:55, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

WAHAHA!

Your talk page has been attacked by an even uglier Wario! Tremble before his disgustingly low-resolution texture as he fouls up this page with his ghastly appearance!

Have a rotten day,

-- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 17:05, June 3, 2022 (EDT)

I tried collapsing the post, but I couldn't, Wario was too fat. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 21:27, June 3, 2022 (EDT)

"just don't laugh at my username unless you like your prized possessions turned to petunias"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

By the by, congrats on your promotion! -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:34, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

Y'know Wario's treasures? Turned into azaleas, kinda like the mess in here.

Don't mess with ol' 'zuka. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:58, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

Heh

I can't imagine how Wario feels knowing you now have the power to send him to the Shadow Realm with your new powers. Congratulations! -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 17:52, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

Well, I'm not quite the decorated janitor yet, as I can't destroy pages and images related to him, but I can give him some inconvenience and misery with some good ol' blocking! Thanks! Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:37, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

Wario of the Day

For being promoted to patroller, you have earned a very special Golden Wario of the Day. Look at the shine of that beautiful spraypai- err, very real gold!

Have a rotten day,

-- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 18:09, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

I think I just saw that statue twitch its stache. 🤨 Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:38, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

Congrats on your promotion to Patroller!

You deserve it! To commemorate your WAHAHAnderful achievement, here's a absolutely massive Attacky Sack:

Sending sincere applause, Somethingone (talk) 19:15, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

How good is it at destroying Wario is my only question. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:33, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

Does "flattens people and bites ravenously" sound good enough to you? ;) Somethingone (talk) 21:12, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

I'm not sure if that's as aWAHsome as Bazooka Mario (props for the promotion, by the way!), could it become BFF with Wario who also "flattens people and bites ravenously" (when garlic is around, that is)?--Mister Wu (talk) 22:34, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

Congrats! Here's a Gift Box! WildWario (talk) 23:37, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

@Wu Sure! Somethingone (talk) 06:21, June 6, 2022 (EDT)

What's in that gift box? It better not be a wild stink bomb! Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 23:27, June 6, 2022 (EDT)

Darkly's residency status

Thought I'd point out to you that Professor Frankly states before you have to see Darkly "a fellow from Twilight Town lives right here in Rogueport" (probably not the exact quote but along those lines). Nightwicked Bowser 20:11, June 28, 2022 (EDT)

Ah I see. I do think the "immigrant" part is not the best word I'd use, seems too jargony, if that's the right word? Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 01:10, June 30, 2022 (EDT)

Super Mario 3D World page

Hello, I saw that you edited the Worlds section of the Super Mario 3D World article. How come you replaced the images for Koopa Troopa Cave and Chargin' Chuck Blockade? I was already in the process of replacing all of those images with higher quality pictures I took in Bowser's Fury. The reason why the construction template is there is because I'm not done yet. 0blivion 17:46, August 3, 2022 (EDT)

I was going to get around to doing that and felt like I should make use of what I have, so I took emulator screenshots and uploaded those. Didn't realize you were just getting started on replacing these. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the MIME format doesn't match, since I use PNG and iirc those thumbnails were in png before they were replaced with higher resolution ones. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:04, August 3, 2022 (EDT)

I kept my Bowser's Fury screenshots in the .jpg format because I was previously asked not to change them to PNGs. I'd prefer being able to finish uploading my JPG images to the page for consistency's sake. 0blivion 21:44, August 3, 2022 (EDT)

Yeah I saw, and I was going to say to not do that because it'll make reuploading earlier, but that's probably going to conflict with policy, so. Yeah, go ahead. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 22:15, August 3, 2022 (EDT)

Miyamoto

Its fine to keep Donkey Kong as a series Miyamoto created on his page correct? I'm trying to get through to a user that disagrees with that. Sdman213 (talk) 19:58, August 22, 2022 (EDT)

I think it's okay. We don't list Wario or Yoshi series as Miyamoto's. There can be further discussion on which components of the DK series we should be attributing to Miyamoto, as Donkey Kong Country is quite a different game and a bigger series than the original arcade games, but as a very general statement, there's little problem listing it. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:00, August 22, 2022 (EDT)

Gotcha, thanks!

Sdman213 (talk) 20:03, August 22, 2022 (EDT)

But unlike Pikmin, Star Fox, and Zelda, we don't have a Donkey Kong-centered wiki Mario Manga Reader (talk) 20:05, August 22, 2022 (EDT)

We do cover both Donkey Kong and Mario content due to a good overlap they have with each other but I do think it's worth emphasizing that the DK games did originate from Miyamoto and not necessarily Yoshi (though Miyamoto had heavy involvement in the Yoshi's Island series which are the main installment in the series) or Wario. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:10, August 22, 2022 (EDT)

Bodybuilders HATE him! Find out Wario’s golden secret when it comes to diet and exercise!

The secret is he doesn’t do it at all! Look at that flab jiggle and wave as Wario lifts ten tons of DK branded banana pancakes and eats them all in one sitting! That septuple chin, that large and disgusting belly, and that unmistakeable greasy, smelly mustache is a result of Wario’s Awesome 1 Step Diet and Exercise Plan! Watch as the pounds grow and grow from Wario’s patented* Eat-It-All system! You’ll be the envy of all your friends as you say “pass the mashed potatoes” for the 15th time without any sense of guilt!

(Note: Wario’s Awesome 1 Step Diet and Exercise Plan may not be healthy to any living organism. Consult yourself before attempted usage of this product. If you or a loved one has used this product and developed serious side effects we can’t even mention on this article, panic and run away as fast as you can. They will soon become another Wario in the Wario Collective. Resistance is futile. PURCHASE AND USE THIS PRODUCT AND THEN RECOMMEND IT TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE YOU KNOW. Wah-ha-ha!)

• Not approved by any patent office. Use caution.

This is a not-paid advertisement by Wario Pharmacy. A family name for over 20 years that you can not trust!

MightyMario (talk) 20:01, November 13, 2022 (EST)

I don't want anything to do with Wario's golden secrets, much less regular secrets! Why don't you take this stupid pizza and ROLL with it.

Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:52, November 13, 2022 (EST)

”Mmm! Delicious pizza! Hey, that’s me on the plate! Yes siree, Wario’s Awesome 1 Step Diet and Exercise Plan is working wonders! Wah-ha-ha!”

(sniff) (sniffsniff) “Why does it smell like gunpow-“

KA-BLOOEY!!! MightyMario (talk) 20:00, November 14, 2022 (EST)

https://i.imgur.com/rcnP9Tv.gifv

Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:05, November 14, 2022 (EST)

Wario extermination squad

Hello. I would like to join. I don't have a userbox, but I would be happy to have one to start my tower. I found some Warios in my yard & I feel like you would like to get rid of them for me. I tried, but their farts were too much. At least I have free energy. Weird. Wario can violate the laws of conservation of energy & matter. I have some Waluigis in my yard as well, if you take those as well as Warios. Thank you in advance.SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 13:56, February 21, 2023 (CST)

Sure. Is... there already a userbox concerning the Wario Extermination Squad? If not, silly me, I should've prepped one years ago! Anyway, the Warios are gone. The promise of free money that just so happens to be in an exhibit of hungry hippos did the trick. As for Waluigi, I'll post updates when THAT spidery menace will be gone, but it shouldn't take long. Thanks for calling up Wario extermination! Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 22:16, February 21, 2023 (EST)

I need to look in the archives. You didn't even see what the Warios are. How did you get rid of them? Plus, I think that broke the multiverse. The Waluigis in my yard aren't gone, though. But anyways, thank you! SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 08:09, February 22, 2023 (CST)

USERBOX UPDATE! I found it in your 8th archive. That took a minute or 2 with the search function. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 08:15, February 22, 2023 (CST)

LATEST UPDATE! The multiverse appears to be more broken. MM54321 characters are messing with my perfectly good grill! SMG4 characters are causing more multiversal warps! I think I see you in the crowd! SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 08:30, March 09, 2023 (CST)

Don't worry, I'm working on the bombs as we speak... hmm Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 11:09, March 9, 2023 (EST)

What bombs? SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 13:38, March 09, 2023 (CST)

DAY LATER UPDATE! Still don't know what bombs you're talking about. Also, I think I see Super Mario Scralaxy, Super Mario Bros. Z, Sonic multiverse, Mega Man multiverse, and Pac Man multiverse characters. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 13:34, March 10, 2023 (CST)

3 DAYS LATER UPDATE! No new information about the bombs received. Stefano is farting on the new Warios. The Waluigis are doing iffy stuff. Movie Sonic is trying to abduct me, but my security won't let him. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 08:17, March 13, 2023 (CST)

Well I found out, it's just garlic bombs. Sure, it tastes delicious in all sorts of soups and whatnot, especially powdered form, but it's REALLY hard to wash off the laundry! I know how it is, I ate raw garlic before and I couldn't get the sensation away from my mouth for several days. Luckily, I've had this experience before. Just wipe yourself with Repel Gel to spare the embarrassment for a few days. And make sure you massage it reallllll good. However side effects include aggressive behavior or other behavior problems, anxiety, concentration problems and change in school performance, crying, depression, false, sense of well-being, the sudden urge to get rich quick, and suspiciousness or distrust of MarioWiki admins. Don't overdose! Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 22:18, March 31, 2023 (EDT)

That got rid of all the Warios & Waluigis. However, I think Movie Sonic just turned... is that Hyper or Ultra? Both? I see the flashing colors of Hyper form & the atom of Ultra form. Oh crap. He saw me. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (A few hours later) Ogggg, I feel weird. Wait, this is a weird watch I have on. Wait, why does it say it was made by you? SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 09:56, April 03, 2023 (CST)

I have a feeling this was just an attempt to prevent you from breathing in Wario powder, which sometimes scatters around when Waluigi pokes his elbows in Wario and causes Wario to explode. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:08, April 3, 2023 (EDT)

Apology

Whoops! So sorry about that! That was honestly a mistake on my end, I'll try better to be more aware of that.

Sdman213 (talk) 10:44, March 9, 2023 (EST)

Eh no problem.. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 11:08, March 9, 2023 (EST)

Super Mario Movie Gallery

Sorry about the mixup. Let me do this properly.

I have started a talk page about the matter of a disagreement with a set of artwork scans that look like they’ve been labelled “McDonalds Happy Meal scans”, which look nothing like happy meal toys if you ask me. I hope this twitter link solves the dispute of the matter. Maybe an administrator can look into this. I never like to mislead people into thinking something like an image scan is objective to the contrary. {{subst:nosubst|User:Marino13/sig}} 11:25, March 9, 2023 (EST)

RE: General information for wario ware characters

Hello. Last two months when I was an anonymous, I actually put a "physical appearance" section in Dr. Crygor in the same way that you did with Mona last June 2014. Can you please add some "general information" sections for all of the Warioware characters? Would appreciate it.

P.S. The physical appearance section located in Dr. Crygor article needs to be analyzed for some inconsistensies.  ^P_nn^yC_ryg^r  00:25, March 12, 2023 (EST)

Sorry, I don't think I can fit time to commit to that. Thanks for asking, though. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 01:24, March 12, 2023 (EST)

Crygor's lab

I expanded crygor's lab article. Can you please expound on its appearances, please? Also it's missing WWDIY navtemplate.

p.s. Like what you did on Dr. Crygor and Mona articles  ^P_nn^yC_ryg^r  20:18, April 1, 2023 (EDT)

Free Warios.

This Wario is for compensation for the Wario Balloon you 'gave' me that Hyper Ultra Movie Sonic destroyed.

He's sad that his balloon is destroyed. Also, the balloon was filled with video games. I saw it for a brief amount of time before I blacked out from being kidnapped. The video games are somehow with me.

This Wario is for Waluigi Time (talk), because you sent a Wario to him.

He got his riches back and then some. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 10:07, April 03, 2023 (CST)

I forwarded that thing but it turns out I can't delete it and I may have accidentally faxed the thing twice. Now he has TWICE the money and twice the coins he'll have to pay me once he lands on a Battle Space) Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 21:36, April 3, 2023 (EDT)

Congratulations!

Congratulations for the promotion! I mean, of course this being a wiki named after you it was overdue, but you went the extra mile and fully deserved it ;-)—06:33, April 6, 2023 (EDT)

Mama mia, thanks for that, Mister Wu! Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:53, April 6, 2023 (EDT)

Talk:Megan Rose Ruiz

The artist's personal fan art isn't an issue, as it's still up on their Twitter and wiki policy states such material is acceptable here. I request the restoration of those 3 images not connected to the Mario movie's production. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 21:35, April 7, 2023 (EDT)

It's been done. I was worried the personal art too would run afoul, but they seem to still be up. However if they were taken down for similar reasons, I still must delete them even if technically they adhere to wiki policy. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 21:41, April 7, 2023 (EDT)

RE:Article dispute

Done, and hey, this discussion sort of ties into how the wiki covers multi-franchise material (hence my parallel about Smash, an on-going debate), so you might be interested in pitching in too :) -- KOOPA CON CARNE 11:34, May 20, 2023 (EDT)

History of Mario looks good

At first I was confused, but I'm seeing your hard work on the page, and now I think it looks awesome. Also wanted to give my thanks for talking through some things on the wiki that i was unsure of, like the History of Mario, or like bringing up talk page discussion on Red Coin when there was potential editor conflict and adding upon an idea inspired by mine. CoolNintendo (talk) 14:44, May 21, 2023 (EDT)

No problem. And thank you for participating in some wiki discussions, hope you enjoy editing MarioWiki! Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 14:47, May 21, 2023 (EDT)

Sandboxes

I saw some other users have sandbox pages. Is it okay for me to have my own too? The Smash Brothers lists set a precedent and inspired me to think about how third-party content lists would look, like for example Sonic, while at the same time not proposing it (at least not so early on) but rather giving users an idea on how the pages would look. But it's a delicate situation because to stay a super wiki (we're past Mario, now we're SUPER Mario), we need a super lot of articles, so making list pages would be for very limited circumstances. It's a complicated matter. CoolNintendo (talk) 14:17, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Sure, you can have your own sandbox page. It's a good space to use if you plan on making consecutive edits to a big page, especially when you plan on making major contributions to it later and don't feel it's ready for other users to edit yet. User sandbox pages are also great places to test templates too. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:13, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

I know you can access other redirect pages by typing the redirect in the search bar and clicking on the link shown at the top of the page you were redirected to but for the subpage redirects (e.g. < User:Pizza Master), I can't access them by using the search bar. Is there a way for me to access the redirect page for a subpage redirect?-- Pizza Master 22:24, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Perhaps you can use Special:WhatLinksHere? You can find the "what links here" under the tools tab on the left sidebar too. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 23:04, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not finding it that way either. Should I ask Steve if it's possible to access the subpage redirects?-- Pizza Master 23:20, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

Just wondering, but what redirects have you created? What pages? I checked your logs,[1] checked your page creation log and checked the redirect logs and the move logs (moves tend to create redirects), but I'm not finding any results. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 23:24, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

I meant like the small link at the top of the sandbox page that automatically is made upon creation of a user subpage that redirects to the userpage. Would I be unable to remove that?-- Pizza Master 01:35, August 17, 2023 (EDT)

Oh yeah, that's just a feature of subpages. The link is probably just a way to show the parent page so you can easily get back to it. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 01:38, August 17, 2023 (EDT)

Ok. Thank you for confirming that for me.-- Pizza Master 01:45, August 17, 2023 (EDT)

RE: Do not converse with trolls

Does answering "no" to a question that for all I know was some twisted measure of legitimate (and either way, is denying an accusation) and putting song lyrics in descriptions because I'm bored and simply reverting really count as such? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:50, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

Yes. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 22:25, August 13, 2023 (EDT)

Very well then. I won't dignify trolls with a response following this message. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:55, August 13, 2023 (EDT)

Hey Mario!

I think you're going to love this monolog. It's from one of your "favorite" characters. I typed it.  ^P_nn^yC_ryg^r  06:47, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

Mama mia! My cursor changed too! Why did Wario bother to make a page about himself, but can't type out the rest of his monologue? He can't call himself a worthy rival of Mario! Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 15:24, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

Mario Wonder

Congrats on Bazooka Mario getting into Mario Wonder Mario JC 11:09, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

I know! I immediately thought about my previous Mariosona lmao! Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:19, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

Not an official plush?

What do you mean Not an official plush? It looks like Pauline! Doesn't it? I don't want to argue with you. SMBros (talk · edits)

It's not a licensed toy. The vendor in the source listed [2] shows multiple unlicensed products,[3] (for instance, not only the mold quality and paint job in this product are subpar, but the Mario with a firefighter hat does not refer to any existing game; it's a nonexistent variation of Mario) or they show recognizable knockoffs of existing products. If you find a Pauline plush online, make sure you note what the brand it's selling under and check the brand's site. If there is no brand, it may be a knockoff. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 00:01, September 2, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for the tip. SMBros (talk · edits)

Assistance Needed

Hey there

So Mushroom Head (talk) brought to my attention that I'm somehow violating Userspace Policy, but I'm not entirely sure how I'm doing that. I don't think they're online at the moment and I'd like to get to the bottom of this problem asap (as I dislike letting these things lasting) so would you be able to help me out? Tails777 Talk to me!

Yeah, I have work atm. What subpages do you have? Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 11:07, September 7, 2023 (EDT)

No problem. I have my talk page, obviously, my signature page, a status page and two work pages; one for general work and one for my Tour alternate list pages. Something about blocking access on mobile, which is weird cause any links I have leading to my talk page leads right to my talk page and not to any of the archives I have set up. Tails777 Talk to me!

I reviewed the userspace policy and I'm not seeing violations. You can have multiple subpages as long as they're relevant to MarioWikis goals. You have sandbox pages and it would be counterproductive if the rules block you from doing this (and so that rule shouldn't have been there if it was an existing one). I myself have a draft and a signature page, and there are likely users who made multiple subpages on their userspace to test templates and whatnot. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 11:13, September 7, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. I also went over everything and I don't think I'm violating anything. The only thing I thought of was when I moved my talk page content to my third archive and I'm not sure if something went wrong there, but as far as I'm concerned, nothing did. Talk page links lead to my normal talk page and I'm certain my archive pages aren't an issue either. In any case, thanks for the help! Tails777 Talk to me!

"The Last Spark Hunter" Feature nomination past deadline

Back in July I nominated The Last Spark Hunter to become a Featured Article. It has been over a week since the deadline passed with no changes happening since. Do you know what happens now? Because I don't. Sorry I'm asking you about this; I don't know who to tell this to, plus you left comments on the Feature Page, and you're currently active on the Mario Wiki. Sparks (talk) September 9, 2023 8:32 PM (EST)

Oh I remember now. I was going to relay to other users on Discord on helping deal with this, since I do have a schedule and can't immediately commit time to it. Technically the nomination is considered to have failed and you have to renominate it, but on the other hand, it does not seem fair to just cancel it for a lack of edits and whatnot and just wait a month again and then renominate with minimal changes (since there's no serious complaint on the thing). I'm going to probably bring up discussion on how to proceed. The rule was defintely intended to prevent stalemates, but probably wasn't meant to cover just slower activity in the nomination page (years ago, when the rule was added, it was more normal to see like 20+ votes on these nominations and plenty of comments; the Luigi nomination for instance had 50+ votes and was basically stalemated). Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 20:53, September 9, 2023 (EDT)

Okay. Thanks for clearing things up. Sparks (talk) September 9, 2023 8:57 PM (EST)

Pages

Hi, I'm just removing some info on a few pages because it was not only too technical for the reader base here but also because a lot didn't have to do with Super Mario. I just hope you didn't think I was vandalizing. Super Game Gear (talk) 14:08, October 15, 2023 (EDT)

I don't think it's vandalism at all, since you did explain your edits in the edit summary. Usually, if people are going to revert edits like yours, our wiki strongly recommends everyone should assume good faith and explain why they undid it. If you ever have your edits disputed, do explain your edits in the associated talk pages of the articles you're editing. I haven't seen any edit disputes yet, but I do encourage you to make edits you believe are improvements, even major ones, and don't worry about feeling like you're vandalizing, because you're not. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 14:14, October 15, 2023 (EDT)

Also, to me when they talk about Super Mario games starring different protagonists as like Wario or Yoshi games, it feels like it complicates matters, so that's why I said Super Mario game gallery if that's okay. Super Game Gear (talk) 14:20, October 15, 2023 (EDT)

I redid the Nintendo Monopoly page. The previous revision had these awful-looking tables, and I felt that it had to go. I don't think it's a set rule yet but the List of SSB fighter page names are so long and hard to remember that instead of deciding to adjust Samus's link to that page, I instead linked it to Metroid wiki. I just want to make sure I wasn't breaking a rule there either. Super Game Gear (talk) 15:52, October 15, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, a lot of these tables are done suboptimally on the wiki. The current table in that page isn't also ideal. I'm not fond of colspan and rowspan in the middle of tables most of the time. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 16:02, October 15, 2023 (EDT)

Okay so I'm still reworking some of the pages. I noticed the Virtual Boy one had considerably more information about the console (including prototypes) over the Super Mario games for it. May I ask, what's your opinion on small sections in articles? There's small sections of Super Mario appearances of Virtual Boy that have only one or two sentences and it's kind of visually annoying when theres subsections with too little sentences or information. Like I'm not discouraging the use of paragraphs but I don't like to see headers packed so closely together, although I don't think there's any hard rule on it. Super Game Gear (talk) 15:06, October 16, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, it might be a better idea to summarize the sections. If the Virtual Boy appears in three Wario games, for instance, make a paragraph detailing the appearance rather than three one-sentence sections, kind of like how History of Mario deals with the WarioWare cameos in a paragraph rather than broken into sections. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 21:30, October 16, 2023 (EDT)

Tables

Some articles are still over the size limit as outlined in MarioWiki:Article size (I believe that's why the Mario, Yoshi, Wario articles got split)? For example, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars. In its Objects section i was inspired by the Famicom Grand Prix article to try and sort the stuff by columns but the only problem is that it not only add more bytes to the page size but also that it takes longer to do all those table conversions. the edit was kind of experimental but i think it was bothersome moving my eyes between squished rows, probably for the same reason as reading between sections that are too big. what would be a good solution? Super Game Gear (talk) 11:49, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

If we need to shorten the page, I think the easiest candidates are those enemy and enemy tables. As for the nested tables, I don't recommend using those if a table closer to a list suffices. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 18:36, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, it's because of the bestiary pages, correct? Nested tables do seem redundant, but I was going for the approach of organizing the information by columns like I've seen in some of the other game articles like Famicom GP. This makes me wonder if some sort of precedent can be set. Super Game Gear (talk) 18:42, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Wondering

Hey, so as someone who'll be checking out the game later than sooner, quick question: what are Shovas and Gnawsher's internal names? They might just be romanizations, but if they're earlier names, that may help determine if they were meant to be somewhere within the Bros./Chomps.
Unrelated: something I've noticed is that some categories tend to "double-up". Like, for example, Category:Sonic the Hedgehog series is a subcategory of Category:Third-party characters. That almost makes sense, except not everything in the former is a character, and the ones that are already have the latter listed. So wouldn't it just make sense to remove the subcategory? LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:23, October 18, 2023 (EDT)

Shova's internal name is "Osukun" at least from the model archive file, and I found that the Gnawsher creature is "Taberukun", probably reference to 食べる (verb of eat). Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 18:39, October 18, 2023 (EDT)

As for categories, Sonic should be categorized only as "Category:Sonic the Hedgehog series", so yeah remove the instance of Category:Third-party characters. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 18:41, October 18, 2023 (EDT)

Totaka

Whoops, my bad, didn't look closely to see the hidden text added, apologies....

Sdman213 (talk) 18:18, October 21, 2023 (EDT)

Wario

"These are for you, my friend." Btw, feel free to send as many Yoshies as you want in my talk page (i don't have any limit) -- FanOfYoshi 11:44, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

Well I one time DID send some Yoshi pics to Waluigi Time a while back... so this is just the same idea. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 22:41, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Super Smash Bros.

As is known here, Super Smash Bros. is a gray area, and there's still remaining Smash Bros. coverage on some of the remaining non-Super Mario characters that have appeared in some Super Mario games. If you check the Knuckles article, you'll see that I've reorganized the Super Smash Bros. series (revision) so that it links to the SmashWiki page and organizes him by role rather than game-specific appearances, but this one was easier to do because Knuckles is not a playable fighter in the game. I still have my reserved doubts about whether the content should be there to begin with, but hopefully this helps the SmashWiki page stand out more. Super Game Gear (talk) 10:13, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

It might take a proposal to reorganize these pages, but I do probably recommend down the line that we prioritize Mario & Sonic and other information from more Mario-involved crossovers over Super Smash Bros. (which probably means we eventually do away with the trophies and spirits that do take undue prominence in many of these pages) Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 22:43, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Caresaway Island's Gone

I just wanted some Help. User:SMBros

You should start your page on your user sandbox. This way, you can make experimental edits, take your time learning how to edit the wiki, and get pointers on what you need to do, and this is without risking your page getting deleted for being small stubs. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 22:45, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Sections

I wanted to ask something else. Is there any rule about condensing sections? I'll go over a bit of my experiences and questions below:

If you check the history of the Lava page, me another editor briefly talked back and forth in the summaries about how the article would be best presented. But then I think your History of Mario article (the WarioWare section) showed everything under one section (something you pointed out to me in an earlier section). What I will say is that I definitely don't like when I see sections where two following ones just say like "has the same role in the first game" as it feels redundant to say it twice (like if something in Yoshi's Island games are the same in all three games). As for the Lava article, I don't really know what Nintendo officially considers Yoshi or Wario games, or rather Super Mario games that have them as the mascot, which would mean something else, so I wanted to for the safe route.

However, when editing the Gooble article, someone said it works better without a history section because it's only one appearance and a mention. Plungelos are similar in this regard, so I felt that I'd match it with the Gooble article.

Lemguins only have two game appearances. If you check the article's history, originally I got rid of the History section, but then I added it back because I was uncertain how some of the other editors would feel, though it is true that not everyone agrees on everything while editing. However, the Lemguin article does need manga information, so I'd think two game appearances and manga appearance would definitely mean a History section is needed. Screen size is relative, but if all the information can be read on a single screen without having to scroll (as on the Lemguin article), having a History section seems unnecessary. Super Game Gear (talk) 12:39, November 3, 2023 (EDT)

No, there's no hard and fast rule. If you think information is organized better through a section merge, then go for it.

I merged pretty much Mario's Mario Party appearances due to repetitive information and plot details not really concerning Mario directly. The same goes for the WarioWare section because one paragraph is better organized than tons of one-liners of minor cameos This also used to be the case for Mario's Mario Kart appearances until I split it again to focus more on Mario-related content of the games rather than Mario's indivudual role. Individual discretion allowed here, and if someone disagrees with how an article is organized, they'll probably adjust it to how they see it and if you don't like it, discuss with them. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 13:50, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, it's the one-liner sentence sections that bother me, and there's still not an easy solution in circumstances where there's two one- or two-liner sub-sections between larger sub-sections with more paragraphs because of that thing having larger contribution to the game's plot. I stated in a lava edit summary that i tried the tabber template to avoid 5 equal-sign headings. However, it didn't work out as I had hoped, and I realize it was specifically intended for use in infoboxes, not article text, which would've definitely gotten out of hand if that were allowed. Super Game Gear (talk) 14:17, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

The issue is probably the sections of "Wario franchise" and "Donkey Kong franchise" and whatnot. We may have to just simply merge with the Mario stuff so we have an extra header to spare. After all, we don't have Wario franchise subheaders in Mario's history. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 15:00, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

I hear the Yoshi platforming games are more complicated because the Yoshi's Island-branded games are very similar to the standard Yoshi platforming games. Super Game Gear (talk) 15:11, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

It's probably better to just sort like we do with the major character history pages, have Super Mario series, then Wario Land, then Mario Party, then WarioWare, etc rather than try to delineate between the umbrella series. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 15:13, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

What about Yoshi's Woolly World and Yoshi's Crafted World? Those unfortunately don't have their own Yoshi's World series, despite a shared similarity in the titles. Super Game Gear (talk) 15:15, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Depends on the headers remaining. Either they get their own section (which would look disjoint, I get it) or they're grouped under the Yoshi series if you can squeeze all Yoshi games under there comfortably. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 15:16, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

I cannot think of any examples at the moment, but it would probably look the most disjoint if there's a large article on something with like 75+ appearances and then there's three equal-sign headings of Yoshi (puzzle game), Yoshi's Cookie, Tetris Attack, Yoshi's Story, Yoshi's Woolly World, and Yoshi's Crafted World, each having their own sections. Super Game Gear (talk) 15:23, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Model Renders

Hello! I was looking through the SMBWonder enemies and I just wanna say the renders you made for some of the enemies are REALLY convincing. I got fooled into thinking they were official every time I saw them, that's how good they are.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I saw them in some random youtuber's video. ~ MawioMawiolol | ( talk ) 14:50, November 3, 2023 (EDT)

That's what more than few people are saying about my renders. It's a slow work in progress but I hope to rendering as many as I can. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 21:49, November 3, 2023 (EDT)

I was gonna post about the same subject, but since someone already praised you for it, imma just do it here. I really like the work you put into them. (also side question: This wiki now allows fan-renders?) -- FanOfYoshi 13:51, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks! I'm not sure what the extent of fan renders are, but my reasoning was, we already allow t-posed renders, which are already technically fan renders to begin with (just with basic camera work and lighting). But I applied an official animation file to give it a more natural pose (so there's no often-stilted fan posing that usually gives it away) and whatnot and my involvement in the work is mostly camera angling and lighting. I also applied a subdivision to the model but the effect is minor, it just smooths out the shape slightly. I don't think we should be rendering out custom poses but if you can find a model, apply an official animation to it, get a decent angle, get some good lighting, I think it's fine and it's better than a t-posed model, since an animated model tells you more about the subject than a bind pose one.

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Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 14:06, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Game & Watch

Is it okay if we cut down the Game & Watch content to just the Game & Watch Gallery pages and Super Mario appearances? Super Game Gear (talk) 16:48, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

I believe we have a proposal that dealt with this.[4] Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 16:49, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, I think the consensus was that only the Super Mario aspects get covered? Super Game Gear (talk) 16:51, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

I believe so! Just review the proposal before you proceed, but don't be afraid to enact changes! We'll correct it later down the line if there are any mistakes. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:13, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Okay, I believe it's done now. Thank you for your help! Super Game Gear (talk) 17:19, November 6, 2023 (EST)

I think it's time to change MarioWiki:Navigation templates#Series-wide templates to remove the "(which is both console- and series-based)" exception to Game & Watch. That will allow me to split the template into one for the console and another one for the Gallery series.--Platform (talk) 01:03, November 5, 2023 (EDT)

I did it. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 01:09, November 5, 2023 (EDT)

You were suppose to delete the words in parentheses.--Platform (talk) 01:33, November 5, 2023 (EDT)

Mama mia. I fixed it. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 01:10, November 5, 2023 (EST)

File:Morocon model SMBW.png

Seeing as you're occupied with exporting custom renders from Mario Wonder for the wiki, would you please give this one a fix when you can? The current render meshes the character's separate forms and it's kind of unacceptable to have it around in this state on an encyclopedia. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 19:07, November 5, 2023 (EST)

Sure. You have to pay me in a dead Wario though. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 19:17, November 5, 2023 (EST)

...OK, fine. I asked him to show off some WWE moves over a freezing pond. Here's a classified morgue shot. Good enough?
-- KOOPA CON CARNE 19:32, November 5, 2023 (EST)

It's a deal.

Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 19:35, November 5, 2023 (EST)

The deed is done!🍿 Enjoy your renders while I enjoy staring at this Wario in morgue while I eat popcorn. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:43, November 6, 2023 (EST)

Muchas gracias! -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:48, November 6, 2023 (EST)

Level pages

So I realized that some of the level pages have an excessive number of tables. If you'd like to take a look, I redid the Jungle Hijinxs page, and took inspiration from the Smiley Flower locations on some of the Yoshi's New Island pages. Super Game Gear (talk) 17:19, November 6, 2023 (EST)

MediaWiki galleries are desiged to suit images and need to be flexible to various screen widths, which means they could stretch over long horizontal distances on wider screens. Captions are supposed to complement these images, but don't quite form the focus of a gallery; textual information should otherwise be uniformly conveyed and organized in a vertically-flowing manner, and that's best done through any other MediaWiki function designed around that need, such as a table. I fail to see how the tables on that page are excessive; the same thing can be said about the gallery format, which additionally does a less-than-ideal job at handling relatively great amounts of text. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:44, November 6, 2023 (EST)

IMO tables are better suited for great amount of information that galleries would compress. However, the table isn't best suited for simpler lists. Rule of thumb: if a list or gallery is sufficient to convey information, it's preferred over a table. Advantages include much more straightforward code to construct the information, and the information is easier to edit.. A gallery is much better suited for enemy counts, item counts, and KONG letters since the information is relatively straightforward. The final part of the page should probably be converted to prose; the bonus levels section has no reason to be in a gallery when prose with an accompanying screenshot and separating <br clear=all> appear sufficient. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:54, November 6, 2023 (EST)

Would it be okay to restore the older revision, but with the Bonus Levels made into prose? Super Game Gear (talk) 17:58, November 6, 2023 (EST)

We will need to come to an agreement with Koopa con Carne or get a consensus from editors. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 12:22, November 11, 2023 (EST)

Daisy Images

I got the images from a twitter thread that pointed out pretty plainly that they were cropped from the same video sourced when I uplaoded them. I don't personally see any alterations outside of the fact they were cropped out of the background of the video. I didn't do the original cropping or editing, but I'm aware the MarioWiki is filled with artwork not available in its original quality that has taken the same steps to make it more presentable. I think whatever changes were made must've been to accomadte for the fact it isn't in an original quality. Whatever alterations are present seem to me to have been done in an effort to provide it in a form more accurate to the original intention. It was also properly tagged with needing the original quality still, so anyone looking at it would know it wasn't a full representation of the uncomprimised original which remains unavailable. I think it should be obvious my uploading of these was done in good faith, and I don't even think anyone would've had a problem with this art had someone else uploaded it. I didn't do anything to this art, but I find the things you've pointed out that whoever cropped it must've done were again to present it as it was intended to be seen and shouldn't be getting scrutinized like this. This also has nothing to do with when I uplaoded previous artwork without a source because these were very openly sourced and do not appear to be tampered with in the degree that is being suggested. I won't bother trying to provide the wiki with new content in this regard because I don't care to carry the burden of unjustified scrutiny and I'm sure it would've ended up on here at some point without such ridiculous levels of policing as a ton of the artwork already on here has. TimonLeslieBerkowitz (talk) 16:17, November 22, 2023 (EST)

Twitter/X is not a reliable site to be getting apparent official images due to its high prevalence of misinformation on there, hence why I advise great caution getting any assets from that site that isn't directly from an official account (which can be even more difficult to ascertain because of how easily impersonated accounts are). As I've explained, the image you uploaded is not merely cropped; the colors were changed (her hair is noticeably darker, her shadows are darker, her dress is more saturated; it looks like a histogram change) and there's visible sharpening around the eyes. The scale of the cropped image is also higher scale but still low-resolution. I also noticed a bit a of a squiggle at the hem of the dress which also suggests a paintover. Either way, the image is tampered with, and we recommend to find the original source of the image and get the image from this source rather than any content on Twitter/X besides the official handles. You also need to demonstrate how the Daisy image from the video itself requires the edits prior to uploading. I do not believe there is enough evidence that the coloration in the original video is a mistake. We have dealt with edited Daisy renders for quite some time on this wiki, such as this case (see edit history) where the uploader ALSO edited Daisy's face including but not limited to thinning her jaws (edit; actual render), and we don't want to be a host to these tampered images that are easily mistaken for official art, hence some editors bring up concerns about tampered renders and vector art and whatnot. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 19:37, November 22, 2023 (EST)