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:The ''Mario All-Stars'' fanfare is an abbreviated arrangement of 0:24-0:27 of "Ending" ([https://youtu.be/waKumDkYrDY?si=wsk38kO157Wkxxo3&t=24 this part]). The notes of Ending are Ab-A-B-C-A; Ab-G-Ab-A-E, and the notes of the ''SMAS'' fanfare are A-A-B-C-E, which is taken directly from the beginning and end of this section of "Ending" ('''Ab-A-B-C'''-A; Ab-G-Ab-A-'''E''') The only difference is that the Ab is replaced with an A. The Ab serves as a walkup note to the A, and simplifying a piece by replacing a walkup note with the note it is leading up to (ex. Ab-A becoming A-A) is extremely common in music and doesn't make it a different piece at all. Additionally, the context of this arrangement's inclusion is important to consider. It is used in a very similar context to ''SMW'' (the successful ending of a game) and was included only 3 years after the release of ''SMW''. In my opinion, the combination of all of these things solidifies the ''SMAS'' fanfare as an abbreviated arrangement of "Ending" rather than a simple coincidence. [[User:ToxicOJ|ToxicOJ]] ([[User talk:ToxicOJ|talk]]) 00:00, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
:The ''Mario All-Stars'' fanfare is an abbreviated arrangement of 0:24-0:27 of "Ending" ([https://youtu.be/waKumDkYrDY?si=wsk38kO157Wkxxo3&t=24 this part]). The notes of Ending are Ab-A-B-C-A; Ab-G-Ab-A-E, and the notes of the ''SMAS'' fanfare are A-A-B-C-E, which is taken directly from the beginning and end of this section of "Ending" ('''Ab-A-B-C'''-A; Ab-G-Ab-A-'''E''') The only difference is that the Ab is replaced with an A. The Ab serves as a walkup note to the A, and simplifying a piece by replacing a walkup note with the note it is leading up to (ex. Ab-A becoming A-A) is extremely common in music and doesn't make it a different piece at all. Additionally, the context of this arrangement's inclusion is important to consider. It is used in a very similar context to ''SMW'' (the successful ending of a game) and was included only 3 years after the release of ''SMW''. In my opinion, the combination of all of these things solidifies the ''SMAS'' fanfare as an abbreviated arrangement of "Ending" rather than a simple coincidence. [[User:ToxicOJ|ToxicOJ]] ([[User talk:ToxicOJ|talk]]) 00:00, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
::I personally agree with Mario jc. Although i will say, i did hear some similarities between the Yoshi's Cookie intro (the first 5 notes specifically) and the SMB3 Ending theme (specifically the 2nd section), but that doesn't mean it was directly inspired by it. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:34, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
::I personally agree with Mario jc. Although i will say, i did hear some similarities between the Yoshi's Cookie intro (the first 5 notes specifically) and the SMB3 Ending theme (specifically the 2nd section), but that doesn't mean it was directly inspired by it. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:34, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
::I still think that's a stretch to say it's derived from Ending, especially since the final note in the ''All-Stars'' fanfare is D, not E. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:05, September 7, 2023 (EDT)

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Which part of Ending exactly is the Mario All-Stars fanfare based on? If it's this part, it seems like it was just coincidental. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 21:26, September 6, 2023 (EDT)

The Mario All-Stars fanfare is an abbreviated arrangement of 0:24-0:27 of "Ending" (this part). The notes of Ending are Ab-A-B-C-A; Ab-G-Ab-A-E, and the notes of the SMAS fanfare are A-A-B-C-E, which is taken directly from the beginning and end of this section of "Ending" (Ab-A-B-C-A; Ab-G-Ab-A-E) The only difference is that the Ab is replaced with an A. The Ab serves as a walkup note to the A, and simplifying a piece by replacing a walkup note with the note it is leading up to (ex. Ab-A becoming A-A) is extremely common in music and doesn't make it a different piece at all. Additionally, the context of this arrangement's inclusion is important to consider. It is used in a very similar context to SMW (the successful ending of a game) and was included only 3 years after the release of SMW. In my opinion, the combination of all of these things solidifies the SMAS fanfare as an abbreviated arrangement of "Ending" rather than a simple coincidence. ToxicOJ (talk) 00:00, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
I personally agree with Mario jc. Although i will say, i did hear some similarities between the Yoshi's Cookie intro (the first 5 notes specifically) and the SMB3 Ending theme (specifically the 2nd section), but that doesn't mean it was directly inspired by it. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 02:34, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
I still think that's a stretch to say it's derived from Ending, especially since the final note in the All-Stars fanfare is D, not E. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 08:05, September 7, 2023 (EDT)