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Well, the Sonic article would probably just detail the Sonic series' rivalry with the Mario series, and how it's had a huge impact on Mario. Storm Yoshi, please read our reasoning before choosing to leave out the Sonic series article just cuz you hate Sonic... :| {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | Well, the Sonic article would probably just detail the Sonic series' rivalry with the Mario series, and how it's had a huge impact on Mario. Storm Yoshi, please read our reasoning before choosing to leave out the Sonic series article just cuz you hate Sonic... :| {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} | ||
:Guys, SEE COMMON SENSE HERE, we don't have articles about the Zelda and Metroid and Star Fox and (perhaps more notably) Banjo & Conker, so why should we just have Sonic?! And in case you all forgot, this is the MARIO wiki, and Sonic not only doesn't have enough to do with Mario to have his own articles here, he wasn't even made by Nintendo!! I mean c'mon, this is insane to make articles about him!! You all know there will be more proposals suggesting the deletion of them, right?! {{User:Glitchman/sig}} | :Guys, SEE COMMON SENSE HERE, we don't have articles about the Zelda and Metroid and Star Fox and (perhaps more notably) Banjo & Conker, so why should we just have Sonic?! And in case you all forgot, this is the MARIO wiki, and Sonic not only doesn't have enough to do with Mario to have his own articles here, he wasn't even made by Nintendo!! I mean c'mon, this is insane to make articles about him!! You all know there will be more proposals suggesting the deletion of them, right?! {{User:Glitchman/sig}} | ||
::Holy bloody Marry, '''calm down'''. For one, we already have an article on Sonic himself so it isn't "insane" to have it, duh. For two, it isn't entirely unreasonable to makes an article on the Sonic series considering that it was Mario mains rival during the 90's and that it eventually had a crossover with Mario. That's certainly more notable that Metroid being a part of SSB or Banjo & Conker far removed ties to the Marioverse. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 17:55, 9 May 2008 (EDT) | |||
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code ~~~(~). How To
The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights). So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours. Also,
New FeaturesSuper Mario Bros.:The Lost Levels WorldsI have noticed recently that none of the worlds in Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels have their own article. I realize that the reason for this is probably that the game is too similar to the original SMB to have it's own pages for the worlds, but it is a COMPLETELY separate game. There are new backgrounds, different and more challenging levels, backward warp zones, trampolines, overworld bloopers, etc. Another reason it may not have these articles may be because the game was never originally released outside of Japan, but though Super Mario All-Stars, Super Mario Bros. Deluxe, and the virtual console almost every country has had the opportunity to play this game. So, I propose that just like the original game, we should make one article for each world and have the world's four levels on the article, amounting to eight new articles. Proposer: Glitchman (talk · contribs) Make new pages for each world
Don't make new pages for each worldCommentsPerhaps my opposition isn't valid... I've never played either game, so I have no idea what the differences are. My Bloody Valentine
Hmmm... Now I'm not sure what to vote for... I think I'll stay on the Opposition side for a little bit. There's still 7 days left, after all. My Bloody Valentine
The only thing I'm worried about is that not enough users have played SMB:LL. It is a Japan-only game, after all. Well, there is Super Mario All-Stars, but that's from a while ago. CrystalYoshi 17:38, 9 May 2008 (EDT) Smash Bros. Series ArticlesCurrently, this wiki has article on the Super Mario series (as a whole), as well as Donkey Kong. I think we should have articles on Template:Fakelink and ect. This espically goes for Template:Fakelink. This could mention the series appearences in the Marioverse (e. g. SSB, M&S) and a brief section about the series it's self, perhaps. Proposer: HyperToad@Proposals Make the Articles
Only Sonic
Nope
CommentsAs I said in the vote headers, I wouldn't oppose having an article on the Sonic series, which would provides (very) basic information about the franchise and details how it affected Mario. For example, the Transformers wiki has an article on "The Gobots", which were the main competitor of Transformers some times ago. The article gives information about Gobot without having too much non-specific Transformers information and also have a section about how Gobot got referenced in Transformers and vice-versa. Considering that Sonic was Mario main competitor back in the 90's, I think having an article on it would be about right. --Blitzwing 18:01, 7 May 2008 (EDT) I'm with Blitz on this one. The Sonic series can get its own article; There's already a lot of series information on Sonic's very own article. Perhaps Pokémon as well, but maybe not. But as for everything else, big NO. My Bloody Valentine How 'bout a list? HyperToad (talk · contribs) nty. I think the character articles are enough. My Bloody Valentine Uh... if that's everyone's reasoning that we are a MARIOwiki, then why do we have SSB at all? HyperToad (talk · contribs)
The reason I'm opposing is because there IS a limit to the amount of Smash information allowed here. :| My Bloody Valentine Ok, Mario plays a large role in SSB, I understand that. Why do we have articles like Blizzard, Waddle Dee Toss and Condor (yes, I regret supporting that now) but not this? HyperToad (talk · contribs) Well, I don't fully understand your reasoning for wanting to create articles on the seperate series. I mean, we have the character articles that detail cameos and whatnot, isn't that enough? :\ My Bloody Valentine I suppose. What about the Sonic series though? HyperToad (talk · contribs) Hmmmmmm... That's quite possibly the ONLY exception. If you look at it, whereas Pokémon is the second best-selling series after Mario, have they REALLY had such a vicious rivalry? Have they REALLY taunted each other so much and considered each other a major threat? Not really. Sonic, on the other hand. Both series have posed as a huge threat to each other in the past, and their history with each other is far greater than any other series made to oppose Mario. Sonic and Mario have a long detailed history, so a Sonic series article would definitely be valid, IMHO. My Bloody Valentine So long as it only details the series' history with the Mario series, nothing more.
Wait, what exactly is the proposal for? Just for making articles for serieses, right? Not making articles about things in the serieses?? CrystalYoshi Well, the Sonic article would probably just detail the Sonic series' rivalry with the Mario series, and how it's had a huge impact on Mario. Storm Yoshi, please read our reasoning before choosing to leave out the Sonic series article just cuz you hate Sonic... :| My Bloody Valentine
RemovalsNone at the moment. Splits & MergesSuper Mario Galaxy signposts mergeFor a long time now, I have been considering a merge of four articles, Gil Board, Phil Board, Bill Board, and Jill Board. All of these are very similar talking signposts that appear as minor characters in Super Mario Galaxy that provide hints hints to the player, such as how to perform a wall kick or control Mario's Boo suit. As these articles are all very short and the characters playing only miniscule roles in the game and essentially non-existant roles in the Mario universe as a whole, I suggest these four articles be merged into a new one entitled "Boards (Super Mario Galaxy)". Proposer: Hangyaku no SnackuSaibu Merge into "Boards (Super Mario Galaxy)"
Keep them Seperate
CommentsI removed two votes with invalid reasons. Canama, Ashley and Red are also different characters, yet they are merged, so this logic doesn't work. However, I'm still not sure if all of the oppose voters have valid reasons. "Officially named" isn't reason enough to make a separate article, neither is "each has their own image" (again, cf. Ashley and Red example), and probably "they're not stubs" isn't either. Though I have no example for this. Time Questions 04:36, 7 May 2008 (EDT) To all those saying the Board should be kept split because they're different, the Isle Delfino Birds are also different (They have different colors and gives different things when you kill them), and yet they got merged. The Boards doesn't seems to have a whole load of differences from each other apart from their names. --Blitzwing 06:55, 7 May 2008 (EDT) I dunno where to side here. The arn't stubs, but they ARE short. HyperToad@Proposals Split Para-Beetle from ParabuzzyI was looking around the wiki one day and I saw that Para-Beetle is a redirect to Parabuzzy. I checked the talk page, and saw that users had said the name was changed. Now, this did not make sense to me, simply because I had not heard from anywhere official that Para-Beetles got a name change. So I say we split the two pages, as they are a separate species. And also... I do not believe that, when split, the two pages will become stubs. This is because once they have all the information possible on their topic, they won't be a stub. Proposer: . Split It
No Split
CommentsChangesPAL and NTSC in Mario Kart WiiThis has been a confusing topic for a long time. Many times we use PAL names of vehicles, controls, and other things. But we also use NTSC names. I know that the wiki standard is NTSC, but people have been debating that if we use NTSC names, it will confuse PAL people, as PAL names confuse NTSC people. Now curreny the wiivehicles template shows NTSC names, while the article shows both names. Should we use both names, or should we use just NTSC? I think that NTSC is a standard, and a new game shouldn't get in the way of that. Proposer: EnPeached NTSC
BothCommentsMiscellaneousCoconut Mall Department StoresIn Mario Kart Wii, the Coconut Mall course has many little stores, advertisements, and other things like that. I think we should make articles for each of these, such as the one I already made, Coco Burger. If a store exists in the game and we can give the article enough information, I think we should go for it. What do you guys think? Okay, just to clarify the options: The first one means that we make a list of all the places in Coconut Mall,similar to the list of Mario Kart sponsors. The second one means you don't want to. To clarify even further: Yes, the first option means that a separate list will be made. Separate from the sponsors list. Because the stores in the mall are not sponsors of Mario Kart. Proposer: Tiptup Jr. Make them/Make a list!
Oppose!
CommentsI think making these articles would make the Mario Wiki a more complete guide to Mario's world and would help people find as much information as possible about Mario Kart Wii. We could also put what type of Miis appear in each advertisement, like a female for a certain store, and a male for another. Just a thought. Tiptup Jr., please always add a reason next to your vote, otherwise it's invalid. Even if you're the proposer. :/ Time Questions 05:53, 3 May 2008 (EDT) Since there is no actual information given on any of the stores and posters in this circuit, any information added to the article will be speculation and fan junk... My Bloody Valentine
Seems like a good idea, Blitzwing. My Bloody Valentine Technically, the stores in Coconut Mall are not sponsors of Mario Kart, they're just... there. Maybe we could make a separate article with a list of Coconut Mall stores, instead of one article for each store? Tiptup Jr. I 99.9% want to say oppose because this seems like a waste of time if theses stores are just random easter eggs in a Mario Kart course-- but I haven't ever played the game yet, which is the 0.1% holding me back from voting. CrystalYoshi 09:44, 3 May 2008 (EDT) Add them to the List of Mario Kart Sponsors. THIS I COMMAND!!! My Bloody Valentine
Obviously, you've forgotten a little thing called Pie (otherwise known as Proof there is a God). Also, they can't be merged with List of Mario Kart Sponsors since they aren't sponsors. I think they should be added to List of Mario Kart Sponsors, but only if the page is then moved to Mario Kart Advertisements. 20:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT) Agreed with Plumber. The Pie Proposal was at least funny. :( My Bloody Valentine
Really, only if there really is enough information. If not, then consider merging it. File:Don Pianta2.PNGUser:Nothing444sup? 00:56, 5 May 2008 (EDT) DP, are you saying that all the information on the article example given by the proposer was false fanon? That would change things quite a bit, really. Stumpers! 01:11, 5 May 2008 (EDT) All that information is false, yes. I don't remember any menus or anything of the sort. My Bloody Valentine
For evidence, perhaps? My Bloody Valentine
Er, Yoshitheawesome, your vote isn't really valid since Stumpers changed his vote. — Stooben Rooben 15:53, 5 May 2008 (EDT) Once this proposal fails there should be another one concerning lists of stores only. The options could be "No List", "Seperate List", or "Sponsors List". By the looks of it, one of the latter two options would win that proposal, so the information will get onto the Wiki one way or another. And that's what matters, right? - Walkazo
Regardless, it is FAR too minor to get its own article. A... Minor cameo with no significance other than being a minor easter egg, with it's very own article? ...Uhhhhhhh... Logic is lacking in that plan. My Bloody Valentine The general article is true, but the entire menu is fanon. And the Pianta getting angry... Ehhhhh, not so sure about that one. My Bloody Valentine Tiptup Jr. should clarify the voting options. What does "Make a list" mean? Make a list separate from the Sponsors list, or make a list and put it to the Sponsors page? Because if you're thinking of the latter, several people currently opposing should better put their vote to the support section... Still, in case the support side wins, the only thing we'll know is that the information is going to be included in the wiki somehow. Whether in a list or as separate articles will still be unsettled... so I don't think it's a good idea of merging "Make separate articles" and "Make a list" into one voting option. Time Questions 13:47, 6 May 2008 (EDT) To all those saying these Coconut business aren't sponsors, I was playing the game with a friend the other night, who pointed out that the race is taking place in the Coconut Mall, so it, and any business therein, is sponsoring the race. Same with NASCAR. -- Chris 14:55, 6 May 2008 (EDT) Okey, I think we should make a list... and put it in a List of Implied Buisnesses page. We could do that with other small... easteregg... things, like YOSHIKART in other Mariokart titles and those Supa Koopa Sneakers Koopa the quick mentions in SM64. I'm writing this in comments to explain my vote. GreenKoopa - Comments or questions?
Actually... Since the buisnesses are ALL on Coconut Mall, I think they should be added to the Coconut Mall article. Thoughts? My Bloody Valentine
Oh, the menu in Coco Burger is not false. If you drive up and look closely enough, you can see the menu items. Tiptup Jr.
So... Can we all agree to add all this information to the Coconut Mall article? My Bloody Valentine
Trouble CenterOn this wiki, there have been many Not Taken spots in the trouble center.Sometimes, this spot can go for a long time, basically never getting it done.I propose we should make automatic matchups for troubles.(Meaning, a user posts up a troble, and one user gets to do that trouble.)But of course, the user does not have to do it.If he/she refuses another user gets it.What do you think?
Proposer: Ninja Yoshi Agree=OpposeComments |