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== Removals ==
== Removals ==
===Quotes===
''None at the moment.''
On really long articles such as [[Peach]], one can see that there are dozens of qoutes, and most of them are completely pointless like:
 
*''Help''
*''"Dear Mario, I'll be waiting for you at the castle on the night of the Star Festival. There's something I'd like to give you. From Peach"''.
 
I propose that these either get removed or shortened. I see no promblem with having qoutes, but having so many that arn't even descent (Although that ''is'' a matter of opinion) is pointless. What are your thoughts?
 
'''Proposer:'''[[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]] <br>
'''Deadline:''' Janurary 5, 2008, 20:00
 
====Remove Them====
#[[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]] Reason said above.
#{{User:Dodoman/sig}} I think quote sections like that should be removed altogether.
#{{User:Ghost Jam/sig}} Quotes are fine, but not quote sections.
#[[User:Yoshimon]] I think the quotes that are screaming/laughing/etc. should be removed.
#'''[[User:InfectedShroom|InfectedShroom.]]'''[[Image:infectoicon.png]] |[[User_talk:InfectedShroom|Talk]]|[[User:InfectedShroom/Reviews|Reviews]]| Shorten them. They take up a ridiculous amount of space. OR, just make a page devoted to quotes of the Mario series.
#{{User:Time Q/sig}} An extra page for important quotes (what is important and what is not, could be decided later) would be good, but they should not clutter up the article.
#[[User:The Legend of Zelda Freak|The Legend of Zelda Freak]] Yep. I got the feeling that sometimes the quotes are longer than the "article itself".
#{{User:BlueYoshter/sig|per all.}}
 
====Keep Them====
#[[User:Pseudo-dino]] Well,  we could probably keep the second one, but we gotta get rid of Help
#[[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] - See my below comment.
#{{User:Arend/Sig|KEEP ALL QUOTES! NO MATTER HOW LONG OR SHORT IT IS!}}
#[[User:Glitchman|Glitchman]] - I like quotes.  I guess you could get rid of "Help!" though.
#{{User:Stumpers/sig}} Can we please refrain from removing information?  Just put it on an alternate quote page.  Please at least do that; I agree they are probably too long.
 
====Comments====
As you said, deciding what Quotes are decent and which aren,t is purely a matter of opinion. I think we should use a case-by-case procedure, not everything need to be run throught a proposal.
[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]]
 
already had this prospoal, that one -_-' {{user:minimariolover10/sig}}
:Uh?
[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]]
 
Although it is a matter of opinion, how the heck is "Help" a descent qoute, I'm sure '''anybody''' could agree that it's just stupid. [[User:HyperToad|HyperToad]]
:Rather than argue that it's stupid, you could say it was just one of the exclaimations in SMG put there in order to help guide players rather than significant dialouge. I'd be more willing to delete it then, wouldn't you?  That said, I agree with Blitzwing that these things are too varied for a proposal.  How about just talking on the talk page? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 14:47, 29 December 2007 (EST)
::We already had a proposal about quotes to which it was decided (as Blitzwing suggested here) that relevancy would be decided case-by-case. The first proposal ''was'' concerning nonsensical things like "Ahhhh!", but we did touch on ubiquitous-sounding quotes like "help" and we decided that since (in this case) Peach screams for "help" so often it actually ''does'' shed some light on her character and therefore is in fact a "decent quote". - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]]
 
In my opinion, entire sections devoted to quotes are ridiculous. Sure, the quotes at the top and everything are okay, but these quote sections... Let's see. They clutter the article, they're often written in poor grammar, and sometimes they've been added to the article above the quote section. They're trouble in my opinion, and I think that not only should the "small" quotes like Peach screaming for help should be removed, but the entire quote sections. {{User:Dodoman/sig}}
 
If the quotes sections are being scrapped can we at least make seperate quote pages as InfectedShroom and Time Q suggested? Since that proposal about Gallery pages passed, quotes pages would fit right into the whole idea. Besides, some quotes pages are already being worked on (i.e. [[Koopalings (quotes)]]). - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]]
:That sounds like a good idea. I just think that they're cluttering their articles. {{User:Dodoman/sig}}


==Splits & Merges==
==Splits & Merges==
===Merge Bird Articles===
The Other night I was looking through articles and I came across the [[Blue Bird]], [[Green Bird]], [[Yellow Bird]], and [[Red Bird]]. Yellow and Blue barly  make any apperances while Red only makes one. I think these are way to insignificent so I say we merge them into on Birds Article Or Minor Speacies of Island Delfino.
'''Proposer''': [[User:Luigibros2|Luigibros2]]<br>
'''Deadline:''': January 5th, 2008, 20:00
====Merge them====
#{{User:Luigibros2/sig}} My Reasons above
#{{User:Minimariolover10/sig}} Same thing, different gifts.
#[[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
#[[User:Celeste|Celeste]] 14:46, 29 December 2007 (EST) &ndash; they are not different species just because they are colored different and many animals have different colored/patterned coats (like cats).
#[[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] - Their individual articles are ''three lines each''. Merge them  and we'll have a decent article. Plus it will be faster to read one page than having to go from one to another, to another...
#{{User:Mr. Guy/sig}} - Like Red Koopas and Green Koopas, they should be merged, as they're just palettes
#[[User:Luigifan14|Luigifan14]] 02:21, 2 January 2008 (EST) - There isn't enough about them to merit seperate pages. All of them could be summed up in one ordinary paragraph. Same for the Boards in Super Mario Galaxy (though I could see line breaks on every sign)
#{{User:BlueYoshter/sig}} theyre just palette swaps
#[[User:Madhatter9max|Madhatter9max]] 16:20, 3 January 2008 (EST) it's simpler and takes up less energy for slower computers and it's not that specific a detail.
#{{User:BlickBlock/sig}} Per Lbros2
#{{User:Ghost Jam/sig}} Per Walkazo
#{{User:Glitchman/sig}} Per Ghost Jam
====Let there be Bird articles====
#{{User:Uniju :D/sig}}Although their all rather minor, they '''''are''''' different species', so they each are deserving of an article.
#{{User:Bentendo/sig}}I like the seperate articles!
#[[User:Pseudo-dino]] Gotta agree with Bentendo.
#http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif What Uniju said. Let's see here: [[Mini Goomba]] is similar to [[Goomba]]. Merge anyone?
#{{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} Leave 'em alone! If we merge the bird articles, we might as well cram all the different species of Koopas into one big article. Same with any other thing that has sub-species.
#{{User:Dodoman/sig}} Per Uniju and Paper Jorge.
====Comments====
Hmmm... While the birds are rather insignificant, they are all seperate creatures with different purposes. For now, I'm neutral on this.
{{unsigned|Dodoman}}
Uniju: Yes, but they are all birds. They only have 2 differences; one is their colour s and two is their coin they give out/ {{user:minimariolover10/sig}}
What about [[Yoshi's]]. We have [[Red Yoshi]], [[Yellow Yoshi]] etc..... should they be merged? - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
:Probably not, just because they are specific characters when you look at individual Yoshi's Island games. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 14:52, 29 December 2007 (EST)
::Yeah, but if you look at the [[Purple Yoshi]] article it talks about Purple Yoshis in general (the [[Super Mario Sunshine]] Purple Yoshis vs. the [[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island|Yoshi's Island]] Purple Yoshi). I sorta agree they should all be merged into one article with all the Yoshi subspecies but that would look a bit messy and wouldn't last very long. I think one "Isle Delfino Birds" article ''will'' work here because the birds are so minor, whereas Yoshis are real pop-icons when it comes to the Marioverse. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]]


===Merge Classic NES Series Articles===
===Merge Classic NES Series Articles===

Revision as of 13:41, January 6, 2008

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed with the signature code ~~~(~).

How To

  1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
  2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
    1. Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
    2. Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
    3. Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
  4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
  5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
  6. At the deadline, the validity of each vote and the discussion is reviewed by the community.
  7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM"
  8. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.

The times are in EDT, and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after school, weekend nights).

So for example, if a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is indeed a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 18:21, 21 January 2025 (EDT)

New Features

None at the moment.

Removals

None at the moment.

Splits & Merges

Merge Classic NES Series Articles

The other day I was reading through the list of stubs, and I noticed that all three Classic NES Series games, Donkey Kong, Dr. Mario, and Super Mario Bros. have their own articles and are all stubs. If we merge these articles, the series will be more organized, complete, and easier-to-read, plus you would not have to move from page to page to read them.

Proposer: Glitchman
Deadline:: January 11th, 2008, 20:00

Merge them

  1. Glitchmansig.PNG Glitchman (talk · contribs) Glitchmansig.PNG My Reasons above
  2. Kamicciolo, any changes or additions could just be noted in the main games page
  3. Ghost JamShyghost.PNG Better to create an article on Classic NES Series and list all that apply.
  4. NMRodo Put it this way: These need to be here as much as the Bird articles. >_>
  5. Stumpers! Either this or make them sub-sections in their main game articles. Which do you think is best?

Keep them separate

  1. GrodenE T C El True, but they're different games, which are more major then species and such.
  2. InfectedShroom.Infectoicon.png |Talk|Reviews|They're all different games.
  3. Mr. Guy the GuyPickle.png Talk!E - Per the mini and the 'Shroom
  4. Boop Explosive Pants Modifier per all.

Comments

They may be different games from their originals, but aside from a few minor graphical improvements, they're complete and utter ports, nothing else. If we have articles on these, we may as well have articles on the Virtual Console versions of games.

The same thing applies to all ports, like Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch). Instead of putting the Classic NES games into one article, we should merge them and all the other unneccesary ports with the articles for the original games. - Walkazo
But we should have a page for the Classic NES Series, just because it was a big thing back in the ol' GBA days. Stumpers! 20:12, 5 January 2008 (EST)
Actually, Stumpers has a point. Making sub-sections on the main game pages makes a lot of sense. My opposition to the total merging still stands, though... Sorry Glitchman! :( InfectedShroom.Infectoicon.png |Talk|Reviews|

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.