Talk:Buzzy Shell

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Nintendo Badge Arcade refers to Mario's form while wearing a spiny shell as "Spiny Mario". Should we add it onto the page? (T · C) 09:29, 6 December 2015 (EST)

Seeing as the current article is conjecture and Nintendo Badge Arcade is an official source, I don't see why not. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 00:17, 7 December 2015 (EST)

Would we split them into Spiny Helmet and Buzzy Helmet? (T · C) 12:38, 10 December 2015 (EST)

I personally think they'd be best left the same. They're nearly identical except that the Spiny helmet is more destructive; in that sense, it's similar to the distinction between a giant Goomba Shoe and a giant Goomba Stiletto (which can break blocks with the ground pound). The Blue Boo (talk) 02:13, 31 December 2015 (EST)

Seeing that there are two varieties, I believe another image should be uploaded for the Buzzy Beetle Helmet. I would if I knew how...296lmn20 (talk) 12:24, 16 April 2016 (EDT)296lmn20

Why not use the Spiny Mario name from Nintendo Badge Arcade as partconjecture (since it needs to factor Buzzy Beetle), and change the article from being about the item/object to one of Mario's transformations (similar to how Invincible Mario 'stacks' on an existing power-up form)? The shell is being used as a helmet, but it's announced as the original enemy and is just an empty shell (somewhat akin to previously-seen empty Koopa Troopa shells), so it's a slight misnomer. LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:05, 27 August 2016 (EDT)

In the 3DS version when it is gotten in the Super Mario Challenge, it is called Buzzy Beetle Shell. I am not sure about the other, but it would be called Spiny Shell. Mario is called Buzzy Mario when he wears the Buzzy Bettle Shell. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 12:04, 28 December 2016 (EST)

Oh. I found out that Spiny Shell is indeed in the game as it is unlocked in the next world. The pigeon says that if Mario wears the Spiny Shell, he becomes Spiny Mario. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 12:31, 28 December 2016 (EST)

Wow! Nothing has changed since I posted here? This really needs more input before anything is done, though. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 15:08, 24 June 2017 (EDT)

Seeing as this page is currently conjectural, and "Spiny Mario" is the closest to an official name we have, I think it should be moved over, unless any instruction manuals have an official name as well. Any other links suggested could be redirects. 15:22, 24 June 2017 (EDT)

The only conflict there is, this article is somewhat about Buzzy Mario as well. I am thinking that it should be moved to Buzzy Mario as it is the lesser, but that is my view. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2017 (EDT)

After thinking a bit, I came up with 3 options. Move this to Helmet (Super Mario Maker), move to Buzzy Beetle shell (will be blue not red no matter what's decided) and split it so Spiny Shell is on that page, or change conjectural to partconjectural. The reason for the first and third is it is called just helmet or "...wearing a Buzzy Beetle shell like a helmet...." to be exact. the second being based on what was suggested, but not by me. In any case, I'm doing it in the morning or when I have time (as I will be quite busy tomorrow, maybe even in the morning). Yoshi the SSM (talk) 00:31, 19 October 2017 (EDT)

Adding onto this convo, Super Mario Maker for the 3DS calls the buzzy beetle version "Buzzy Mario" in the challenge descriptors. So it seems to be two versions; Buzzy Mario and Spiny Mario. Should we do a proposal, or...? ~Camwood777 (talk) 15:37, 26 October 2017 (EDT)

Yeah, this should be a proposal. To split or not to split. But if I am doing it, I am not doing it today. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 17:56, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

In the meantime, I have found some images that could work for Buzzy Mario, but they are for levels in the Super Mario Challenge. They are File:W7-1 SMM3DS.png, File:W7-3 SMM3DS.png, File:W7-4 SMM3DS.png, File:W9-6 SMM3DS.png, and File:W14-2 SMM3DS.png. I prefer 9-6, but 7-1, 14-2, and 7-4 (in that order) are also good. 7-3 is not good due to it almost being hidden. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 17:56, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

Split Spiny Shell and Buzzy Beetle Shell

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Current time: Saturday, November 30, 2024, 00:07 GMT

It has been mentioned above that this should be split. The reason why is because (a) they have different names and (b) they function differently. Also, they are somewhat split already as Spiny Shell (backup after User:Toadette the Achiever's proposal passes: Spiny Shell (Spiny)) already has an article. However, it has a link to here like it should. This proposal will move all info about the Spiny Shell to that article. However, there is also the possibility of it being moved to a Spiny Shell with and identifier if it needs to be that way (it will be Spiny Shell (Super Mario Maker)). Info about the Buzzy Beetle shell will remain here and this will be moved to Buzzy Beetle Shell. After the move, Shell Helmet will either be deleted or turn into a disambridge. But, if this fails, changes will still be made to go against the split info. Mainly this quote, "It protects him from damage from above, and is useful against Thwomps," will be removed (because it should be) from Spiny Shell (this also applies if this passes and the moved info is given an identifier, although changes to other parts of the paragraph will still be changed). This proposal also will determine where links (Buzzy Mario and Spiny Mario as well as Buzzy Beetle Shell if this fails) redirect to. As for the info the relates to both, right now I am thinking of having it on both, but this can be a subject of change. But, only if people feel strongly against having them in both. I don't think it will go against policy as it is needed to be said twice. Flow will not be an issue if this passes.

Proposer: Yoshi the SSM (talk)
Deadline: November 27, 2017, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Yoshi the SSM (talk) Per proposal.
2. PowerKamek (talk) Per proposal.

Comments

To be clear, this proposal is not related to this proposal. Results from either won't affect the other. I was reminded to create this proposal when that proposal went up. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 13:30, 16 November 2017 (EST)

The Nintendo Badge Arcade claims "Spiny Mario" to be the official name, as stated in the conversation above, so that would make Spiny Helmet official as well. But that would leave Buzzy Beetle Helmet and Mario with a conjecture template. Before I vote, I want to ask again: Is there a source that names those? Games or guides? 13:38, 16 November 2017 (EST)