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:Actually, the Invisibility Cap is clearly NOT a reference due to it having a different name (it would be called the Vanish Cap). Downplaying the fact that it doesn't use the N64 model is pretty disingenuous, too, because if they went to the effort to make the Metal Cap outfit be the actual model, they wouldn't completely change the Vanish Cap to be actual invisibility. They'd use the N64 model. The fact that both follow the theme of invisibility doesn't mean one is a reference to the other. The other outfit differences you brought up are not really comparable to the Cowboy/Pirate ones. A few minor changes =/= completely redoing it. The amount of differences between SMO's Pirate/Cowboy costumes far outnumber the amount of details that stayed the same. Of course the Pirate hat is going to look similar; it's a pirate hat. "B-b-b-but there's a yellow neckerchief!" doesn't somehow completely undo the fact that the rest of the Cowboy outfit is completely different than the Mario Party 2 outfit. It honestly feels like you're just trying to find some sort of reference in every outfit SMO has to offer, even when it simply doesn't exist. Two things having the same theme doesn't automatically make one a reference to the other, especially when so much has been done to differentiate the two. If we're going to resort to massive leaps in logic just to find some sort of dumb reference in every costume, you might as well say the Boxers are a reference to Superstar Saga's intro where Mario's in underwear, and they just "changed the design" from briefs to boxers. Or the Caveman costume is a reference to the Super Mario World cartoon or Super Paper Mario because they both had cavemen in it, too. Or, hell, the King outfit is a reference to that king from SMB3 that resembles Mario. You can find a connection anywhere if you just completely disregard the actual outfit's design and just look at the theme. - Burb | :Actually, the Invisibility Cap is clearly NOT a reference due to it having a different name (it would be called the Vanish Cap). Downplaying the fact that it doesn't use the N64 model is pretty disingenuous, too, because if they went to the effort to make the Metal Cap outfit be the actual model, they wouldn't completely change the Vanish Cap to be actual invisibility. They'd use the N64 model. The fact that both follow the theme of invisibility doesn't mean one is a reference to the other. The other outfit differences you brought up are not really comparable to the Cowboy/Pirate ones. A few minor changes =/= completely redoing it. The amount of differences between SMO's Pirate/Cowboy costumes far outnumber the amount of details that stayed the same. Of course the Pirate hat is going to look similar; it's a pirate hat. "B-b-b-but there's a yellow neckerchief!" doesn't somehow completely undo the fact that the rest of the Cowboy outfit is completely different than the Mario Party 2 outfit. It honestly feels like you're just trying to find some sort of reference in every outfit SMO has to offer, even when it simply doesn't exist. Two things having the same theme doesn't automatically make one a reference to the other, especially when so much has been done to differentiate the two. If we're going to resort to massive leaps in logic just to find some sort of dumb reference in every costume, you might as well say the Boxers are a reference to Superstar Saga's intro where Mario's in underwear, and they just "changed the design" from briefs to boxers. Or the Caveman costume is a reference to the Super Mario World cartoon or Super Paper Mario because they both had cavemen in it, too. Or, hell, the King outfit is a reference to that king from SMB3 that resembles Mario. You can find a connection anywhere if you just completely disregard the actual outfit's design and just look at the theme. - Burb | ||
::I never referenced every costume such as the clown, football gear, snow hood, resort hat, sailor hat, boxers etc. I am not finding every reference for every costume then you think. | ::I never referenced every costume such as the clown, football gear, snow hood, resort hat, sailor hat, boxers etc. I am not finding every reference for every costume then you think. Did I even say the boxers are a reference to MLSS? Well of course the caveman outfit isn't going to be a reference to the Super Mario World Cartoon and Super Paper Mario because mario never wore that outfit at all. The SMB3 Kings have nothing to do with the Kings outfit at all. At least the reference I choose are not as redundant than what you are comparing. This also didn't answer my questions about some of the outfits having the updates like the Tuxedo outfit from Super Mario All Stars, The Space Suit from Super Mario Land 2 or some other ones. Of course they can update the costumes this is the modern era not the past era. Most costumes are obscure references to past Mario games while some of them are brand new. Also next time to please use a Colon (:) in the beginning of a new sentence and keep adding a another each time you make a new message and vice versa and also a proper signature https://www.mariowiki.com/Help:Signature [[User:Gamermakerguy|Gamermakerguy]] | ||
Did I even say the boxers are a reference to MLSS? Well of course the caveman outfit isn't going to be a reference to the Super Mario World Cartoon and Super Paper Mario because mario never wore that outfit at all. The SMB3 Kings have nothing to do with the Kings outfit at all. At least the reference I choose are not as redundant than what you are comparing. This also didn't answer my questions about some of the outfits having the updates like the Tuxedo outfit from Super Mario All Stars, The Space Suit from Super Mario Land 2 or some other ones. Of course they can update the costumes this is the modern era not the past era. Most costumes are obscure references to past Mario games while some of them are brand new. | |||
Also next time to please use a Colon (:) in the beginning of a new sentence and keep adding a another each time you make a new message and vice versa and also a proper signature https://www.mariowiki.com/Help:Signature [[User:Gamermakerguy|Gamermakerguy]] | |||
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Hello, Burb. Good job on your recent uploads, but when uploading files, keep in mind that you must correctly categorize the file. It's simple to learn how to do so. Just search for the correct category by starting with the following groups:
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Your Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle images were 1) containing an empty {{aboutfile}}, if you're not sure what to put down, you can remove it entirely; and 2) missing Category:Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle Images. Other than that, good job with the uploads! 
12:40, 5 August 2017 (EDT)
Costumes
It was not just the Pirate and Cowboy outfits that changed, but also the Astronaut from Super Mario Land 2, The Tuxedo based on Super Mario All Stars (though now the outfit uses the Tuxedo outfit from Mario Paint instead) the Top Hat is still from Super Mario All Stars though, The Mario Paint Overalls are used but the beret is from the Mario Artist minus the "M" logo. Now that I think about it the Cowboy Hat does look very different so I will agree with it having no reference for that one, but i am agree with the yellow hanker chief being a homage to the original game since it's yellow just like that game. As for the pirate it still has some parts from the original but with better design but I will let the staff decide on that one. As for the invisibility Cap it's pretty obvious that it's a homage to the Vanish Cap because it's one single cap that makes you invisible (your just simply transparent in the clothing change menu) it doesn't have to be an N64 Mario model to directly reference that power up even if it can't be seen. If you disagree or have a problem with all this I will be talking to the staff about this issue. Gamermakerguy
- Actually, the Invisibility Cap is clearly NOT a reference due to it having a different name (it would be called the Vanish Cap). Downplaying the fact that it doesn't use the N64 model is pretty disingenuous, too, because if they went to the effort to make the Metal Cap outfit be the actual model, they wouldn't completely change the Vanish Cap to be actual invisibility. They'd use the N64 model. The fact that both follow the theme of invisibility doesn't mean one is a reference to the other. The other outfit differences you brought up are not really comparable to the Cowboy/Pirate ones. A few minor changes =/= completely redoing it. The amount of differences between SMO's Pirate/Cowboy costumes far outnumber the amount of details that stayed the same. Of course the Pirate hat is going to look similar; it's a pirate hat. "B-b-b-but there's a yellow neckerchief!" doesn't somehow completely undo the fact that the rest of the Cowboy outfit is completely different than the Mario Party 2 outfit. It honestly feels like you're just trying to find some sort of reference in every outfit SMO has to offer, even when it simply doesn't exist. Two things having the same theme doesn't automatically make one a reference to the other, especially when so much has been done to differentiate the two. If we're going to resort to massive leaps in logic just to find some sort of dumb reference in every costume, you might as well say the Boxers are a reference to Superstar Saga's intro where Mario's in underwear, and they just "changed the design" from briefs to boxers. Or the Caveman costume is a reference to the Super Mario World cartoon or Super Paper Mario because they both had cavemen in it, too. Or, hell, the King outfit is a reference to that king from SMB3 that resembles Mario. You can find a connection anywhere if you just completely disregard the actual outfit's design and just look at the theme. - Burb
- I never referenced every costume such as the clown, football gear, snow hood, resort hat, sailor hat, boxers etc. I am not finding every reference for every costume then you think. Did I even say the boxers are a reference to MLSS? Well of course the caveman outfit isn't going to be a reference to the Super Mario World Cartoon and Super Paper Mario because mario never wore that outfit at all. The SMB3 Kings have nothing to do with the Kings outfit at all. At least the reference I choose are not as redundant than what you are comparing. This also didn't answer my questions about some of the outfits having the updates like the Tuxedo outfit from Super Mario All Stars, The Space Suit from Super Mario Land 2 or some other ones. Of course they can update the costumes this is the modern era not the past era. Most costumes are obscure references to past Mario games while some of them are brand new. Also next time to please use a Colon (:) in the beginning of a new sentence and keep adding a another each time you make a new message and vice versa and also a proper signature https://www.mariowiki.com/Help:Signature Gamermakerguy
