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#{{User|RandomYoshi}} – I was the one who added that table to the ''Mario Party 5'' article. When making it, I only intended to tell about what the capsules did to the player when they used it, not what they are or anything like that. What am I trying to say here? I am trying to say that the tables in the articles should just tell about what '''happens''' to the player in the game they appear, not how they '''look''' like, for that can be easily displayed with a picture.
#{{User|RandomYoshi}} – I was the one who added that table to the ''Mario Party 5'' article. When making it, I only intended to tell about what the capsules did to the player when they used it, not what they are or anything like that. What am I trying to say here? I am trying to say that the tables in the articles should just tell about what '''happens''' to the player in the game they appear, not how they '''look''' like, for that can be easily displayed with a picture.
#{{User|Darth Vader}} Per Raven Effect
#{{User|Darth Vader}} Per Raven Effect
#{{User|YoshiKong}} Per all.


====Comments====
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Revision as of 02:00, May 16, 2012

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removals of previously added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • Any user can support or oppose but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!"
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

Rules

  1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and Writing Guideline proposals must include a link to the draft page.
  2. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for Writing Guidelines and Talk Page Proposals, which run for two weeks. (All times GMT.)
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
  3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing with or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
  4. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
  5. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  6. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  8. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
  9. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
  10. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
  11. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  12. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that cancelled proposals must also be archived.
  13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
  14. There should not be proposals about creating articles on an underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
  15. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
  16. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined.


===[insert a title for your Proposal here]===
[describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT. (14 days for Talk Page Proposals.)]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====


Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled Talk Page Proposals, see here.

Rules

  1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages affected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "(Template:Fakelink)". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use {{fakelink}} to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the heading.
  2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
  3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. (All times GMT.)
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. Talk page proposals may be closed by the proposer at any time if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
  5. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

Writing Guidelines

None at the moment.

New Features

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

The Redirects to Trophy and its subpages

While searching for redirects, I found one that linked to Trophy. It was a redirect for one of the Super Smash Bros. trophies. I checked to see how many of these redirects currently existed. I ended up finding twenty of these redirects for Trophy, one redirect for Trophy Descriptions (Super Smash Bros. Melee), four redirects for Trophy Descriptions (Super Smash Bros. Brawl), and one redirect for Sticker. I'll create a full list in the comments section. In my opinion, these redirects are pretty much unnecessary. I mean, anyone that's looking for information on these trophies will get, word for word, the same information they could of gotten in the games themselves. Also, as of now, it's inconcistent. There are 293 trophies for Super Smash Bros. Melee, 544 trophies for Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and 700 stickers, while there are currently only 26 redirects. Even if we take away the trophies/stickers that we already have articles on, there's still quite a few more creatable redirects, and some redirects, like the Pokémon trophies, could potentially redirect to somewhere else. I'll make three options: delete the current redirects, create new redirects for the other trophies, or do nothing.

Proposer: GreenDisaster (talk)
Deadline: May 20, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Delete Redirects

  1. GreenDisaster (talk) I support my proposal.
  2. Toad85 (talk) I would say add redirects, but that would create a metric bleepton of useless filler. I'll say delete the ones we have.
  3. LeftyGreenMario (talk) These redirects are not necessary, and I doubt that people would like to create redirects to fill in the remaining space. Besides, people can find the information by looking at the relevant results if the page for their character doesn't show up.
  4. Mario4Ever (talk) I support deleting the redirects.
  5. Humbug (talk) Per all.
  6. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) Per all. I don't feel like retyping what I said before
  7. Commander Code-8 (talk) Per what I said when this was up last time.

Create Redirects

Do Nothing

Comments

And here is the list of redirects that this proposal could affect:

* These three are supposed to be merged into a bigger article, along with Colonel Roy Campbell, Mei Ling, and Otacon, but I didn't know how to make this article.

How come this has been extended and the votes removed? Is that what happens when not that many people vote? Commander Code-8 (talk)

Delete most of the orb pages

This proposal has been edited and reset due to unknown information. It has come to my attention that there are alot of tiny orb pages all over the site. I propose that we delete this orb pages since all the information about them on their respective Mario Party games is repeated in their individual wiki pages.

Proposer: Coooool123 (talk)
Deadline: May 20, 2012, 23:59 GMT

Support to delete

  1. Coooool123 (talk) I'm for my proposal.
  2. Bwf8398 (talk) Per Coooool123. We don't need both a list of every orb and what they do on the main game page, such as here and then have no additional information in articles. There already is information in the game articles; we don't need to have it twice. This proposal should also apply to items, since those are double-listed as well

Opposers to delete

  1. GreenDisaster (talk) Merging all the orbs into one article will do nothing but create a huge and unnecessary list. Besides, what is the difference between these items and all the other items in the other Mario Party games?
  2. Raven Effect (talk) All of the orbs have unique effects so they shouldn't be merged.
  3. Humbug (talk) Delete the orb pages? What? Per Shoey.
  4. MarioSmasher (talk) Per every guy in the opposers section.
  5. Commander Code-8 (talk) Now that I know what these are I think they should be kept
  6. RandomYoshi (talk) – I was the one who added that table to the Mario Party 5 article. When making it, I only intended to tell about what the capsules did to the player when they used it, not what they are or anything like that. What am I trying to say here? I am trying to say that the tables in the articles should just tell about what happens to the player in the game they appear, not how they look like, for that can be easily displayed with a picture.
  7. Darth Vader (talk) Per Raven Effect
  8. YoshiKong (talk) Per all.

Comments

Can you be clearer on what exactly you're talking about. I have no idea what these orbs are or what game they're from. Commander Code-8 (talk)

He wants to delete all Orb articles from Mario Party 5, 6, and 7. GreenDisaster 07:19, 14 May 2012 (EDT)

I'M A GIRL. And I want to get ride of most of the orb pages since they are all explained on their respective mario party wiki pages and it's word for word in the wiki.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Coooool123 (talk).

First off, DON'T point you are a girl in caps, everyone can do a mistake and no one has to be perfect. MarioSmasher (talk)

@GreenDisaster, the list you refer to is already on every game's main page. There would be no additional work in creating lists.

Sorry about that. I suppose I should expect it with my username and all! XD again sorry! Coooool123
Hm, are all the orbs and their effects already listed in the main Mario Party articles? Marioguy1 (talk)
Yes they are.