MarioWiki:Proposals

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!" "Vote" periods last for one week. All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used.
2. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts. (All times GMT.)
   • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it. Agreeing with or seconding a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted.
4. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the Comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
5. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
6. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
7. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
8. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
9. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
10. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
11. There should not be proposals about creating articles on an underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
12. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
14. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

Basic Proposal and Support/Oppose Format

This is an example of what your proposal should look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]".

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===[insert a title for your Proposal here]===
[describe what issue this Proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the Wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT.]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

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Users will now be able to vote on your Proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own Proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's Proposal. If you are voting on your own Proposal, you can just say "Per my Proposal".

Talk Page Proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled Talk Page Proposals, see here.

How To

1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom). All pages affected must be mentioned in the brief description, with the talk page housing the discussion linked to directly via "(Template:Fakelink)". If the proposal involved a page that is not yet made, use {{fakelink}} to communicate its title. The Deadline must also be included in the entry. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the heading.
2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How To" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one. (All times GMT.)
   • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
4. Talk page proposals may be closed by the proposer at any time if both the support and the oppose sides each have fewer than five votes.
5. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.

List of Talk Page Proposals

• Merge Fish (Balloon Fight) with Summit (Discuss) Deadline: May 17, 2011, 23:59 GMT
• Split Densetsu no Stafy 3 from Video game references (Discuss) Deadline: May 19, 2011, 23:59 GMT
• Merge Double Dash!! to Rocket Start (Discuss) Deadline: April 29, 2011, 23:59 GMT Extended: May 6, 2011, 23:59 GMT Extended: May 13, 2011, 23:59 GMT Extended: May 20, 2011, 23:59 GMT
• Merge relevant information from Starfy to Assist Trophy and Cameos (Discuss) Deadline: May 21, 2011, 23:59 GMT
• Remove mention of Pyoro from MarioWiki:Coverage (Discuss) Deadline: May 21, 2011, 23:59 GMT
• Delete Template:Vacation (Discuss) Deadline: May 26, 2011, 23:58 GMT
• Delete Template:Gone (Discuss) Deadline: May 26, 2011, 23:58 GMT
• Merge National Indoor Stadium to National Stadium (Discuss) Deadline: May 30, 2011, 23:59 GMT

New Features

Add Additional Links For Main Characters

Something that I've noticed for a while is that in the characters section of the wiki, links major characters that appear in most of the games look just like those of minor characters that got one game appearance, making them hard to locate. I think additional links to non-generic characters (For example, Goomba would not be counted) that are either playable or major characters in at least fifteen games should be added at the top of the characters page.

Proposer: Vivalahomestar (talk)
Deadline: May 16, at 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Vivalahomestar (talk) This would make it much more convenient for somebody who just wants to find (for example) Luigi instead of Lumpy.

Oppose

1. Bop1996 (talk) We hold these truths to be self-evident. That all characters are created equal. That they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. In short, why put another link to major characters so you can find them better? Use the search bar or something <_<
2. Goomba's Shoe15 (talk) all characters are equal under the watchful eye of the Big Rock Who Watches.
3. Mario4Ever (talk) The Star Spirits disapprove. Per Bop1996 (also, Skolar googled the Declaration, and it's certain "unalienable rights," not "inalienable rights").
4. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) "Major"is more of a subjective thing, anyway. What happens if a certain character appeared in 15 games, but only made cameos throughout the game. You get my point?
5. Zero777 (talk) Per all, just edit that yourself.
6. Superfiremario (talk) This proposal is way too vauge. (Like mine)
7. Mariomario64 (talk) Umm...when you think about it, it doesn't matter how major or minor a character is, and you can most likely find a character more easily in alphabetical order than in major-minor order.
8. Nicke8 (talk) Per BLOF.
9. MeritC (talk) Per all.
10. Reddragon19k (talk) Per all.
11. Smasher 101 (talk) Per all.

Comments

What are you trying to say? Zero777 (talk)

yeah ive never had any problems with finding Mario or any other main character if thats what you mean Goomba's Shoe15 (talk)

Ummm... Well, he (or she) seems to be saying that he wants additional links for main characters in the proposal title, but he goes on to say that he finds other minor characters' links clogging up the link characters section and he thinks that adding links to non-generic characters (???) would solve this problem. All in all, I don't see what he's trying to say either, but that's what I can make out. Bop1996 (talk)

Yeah, in, un, both are similar... I need to do more Latin and Greek Roots study... Bop1996 (talk)

*WARNING--OFF TOPIC CONTENT* Actually, both words mean the same thing, but "inalienable" is only found in earlier drafts. Mario4Ever (talk)

Sue me, I'm a stickler for accuracy. Bop1996 (talk)

I would if I were a lawyer. ;) Mario4Ever (talk)

Protect all talk archives

I think we should protect all the talk archives so no one can edit them ecept sysops. For User talk archives we should only let the user who owns the talk page and sysops.

Proposer: Superfiremario (talk)
Deadline: May 16, 23:59

Support

1. Superfiremario (talk)

Oppose

1. Bop1996 (talk) Why do this? It's a lot of unnecessary work. If you want your talk page archives protected, ask a sysop.
2. Mario4Ever (talk) Per Bop1996.
3. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) Per all
4. Mariomario64 (talk) If you want it to be protected, then make it a sub-page of your userpage and not your talk page. Your userpage and any other sub-pages of it (sig, etc.) are already protected.
5. UltraMario3000 (talk) Per Bop and MM64.
6. Xzelion (talk) - Per all.
7. DKPetey99 (talk) Why? You edit your archives like 10 times, so why protect it?
8. Arend (talk) - Worst. Idea. Ever.
9. Reddragon19k (talk) Bad idea! Per all!
10. Smasher 101 (talk) Uh, that's pretty unnecessary if you ask me. Per all.
11. BoygeyDude (talk) Per all.
12. Luigi is OSAM (talk) Per meh comment

Comments

A similar proposal was deleted per the agreement of the administration. Therefore, I see no reason for this to stay. Mario4Ever (talk)

No, they're different enough. Unless the admins also find this too tedious then this proposal should stay. Marioguy1 (talk)

Fair enough. Mario4Ever (talk)

Arend: Please don't insult the idea, just give reasons for your oppose. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

Can someone delete my proposal? Superfiremario (talk)

Ask an administrator BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

I'm going to oppose for this ridiculasly long reason: Many times on this wiki, people edit talk page. You edit your/someone else's/a page's talk page when leaving a message. Also, since VANDALS could write on talk pages and insult you might wish to censor/delete things. I know this is about archives, btw. AND ON THE TOPIC OF ARCHIVES, someone might want to get rid of an offensive past messsage, but insted would have to stare at it, wishing this rule hadn't been made. That is all I have to say. ._. Luigi is OSAM (talk)

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

Merge Game and Non-Game Elements in Games, Characters, Places, Items, Species, Allies, Enemies, and Anything Else I Forgot to Mention

What a ridiculously long name.

But what is truly ridiculous is how according to this page, we have to keep non-game stuff and game stuff in the same section, but in the lists like those, it has to be separate? I don't see any coherence. I propose we (insert proposal title) because leaving it separate makes no sense.

Proposer: LeftyGreenMario (talk)
Deadline: May 16, 2011 23:59 GMT

Yes

1. LeftyGreenMario (talk) Please read my proposal this time! If you object, make a valid reason! Of course I would support my own proposal
2. Goomba's Shoe15 (talk) if every things cannon than everything should be covered under one list, and one category.
3. Superfiremario (talk) Per all.
4. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) I'm all for consistency. If we are required to group something together in the history, what makes listing this any different?
5. Reddragon19k (talk) - That is a yes to that and per all!
6. SWFlash (talk) Per RightyMagentaWario LeftyGreenMario.
7. Smasher 101 (talk) Per all.
8. Luigi is OSAM (talk) Per them...ALL!

Other Thoughts

Technically, you don't have to follow that page. It isn't an enforced policy.--Knife (talk) 21:19, 12 May 2011 (EDT)

This is just for the sake of consistency. LeftyGreenMario (talk)

It would make more sense if we further separated different media information by making a page for the video-game version of a character, and then the specific media versions. But this wiki is so stuck on the crummy old cartoons that they think putting them on the page of the video-game character makes sense. It doesn't, they're to different medias has near totally different portrayals of the elements from each. UhHuhAlrightDaisy 04:14, 16 May 2011 (EDT)

Miscellaneous

Make an article on the Electric Fence.

It appears in all of the stadiums in Super Mario Strikers, Mario Strikers Charged and in the second Bowser Jr. battle New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Why does it still not have an article? It is a gameplay element and it is important in a boss battle. Any other games in which it appears in?

Proposer: DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr. (talk)
Deadline: May 18, 2011 23:59 GMT.

Create article

1. DK and Diddy Kong vs Bowser and Bowser Jr. (talk) Per proposal. Part of it is removed in Thunder Island and there is a cheat to turn it off.
2. Nicke8 (talk) Per Kongs vs Koopas
3. Superfiremario (talk) Per Kongs vs Koopas
4. Reddragon19k (talk) - Of course we are going to create it! Should I per all?... YES!
5. Arend (talk) Per DKnDKvsBnBJr. (what a long abbreviation). And they were known as just electric fences according to a MSC(F) Cheat, named Power Shortage.
6. DKPetey99 (talk) Why did you ask, just create the article and see if it gets deleted! Per Kongs vs Koopas
7. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) They are indeed a gameplay mechanic, no matter how "boring" it is. Besides electrifying people in MSC, there are a certain amount of ways to alter the range of the shock, such as if the character simply gets too close to the fence or if it is disabled.
8. Tails777 (talk) Per all. P.S. don't electric fences appear in Mario Galaxy and Mario Galaxy 2 as well?
9. SWFlash (talk) Because per Tails777 and my comments.
10. Yoshidude99 (talk) I have been wanting this article to be created for a while now and they appear in more than one game.
11. Yoshiwaker (talk) It appeared in MSF, MSC, SMG, SMG2, and NSMBW. Seems notable enough.
12. Smasher 101 (talk) It seems pretty notable in the games that it appeared in. Per all.
13. ThirdMarioBro (talk) This wouldn't be too different from the other articles I created, and only one got deleted. Besides, there is some information that wouldn't be redundant with other articles. Per all.
14. Luigi is OSAM (talk) Per allllllll

Don't change it

1. Mario4Ever (talk) First, merging it to Big Hit is a bad idea, since the latter's just a tackle, and we're not about to merge every surface someone can hit into that article, which is essentially what that option proposes. Second, what's the point? We can't say anything else other than that it shocks players if hit and is used to shock Bowser Jr. in a boss battle.
2. Zero777 (talk) Per and the point of that it was never named at all. I'm sure the two examples you put out aren't the same. And what there is to say about it?
3. Bop1996 (talk) So, you want to create an article that has all that information on a World article and the stadiums? Why do that? Unnecessary, redundant, and probably bland and boring. Per all.
4. Xzelion (talk) Per Bop1996.
5. MarioMaster15 (talk) Per Bop1996.
6. Knife (talk) – Per Bop1996.
7. Bloc Partier (talk) - Per Bop1996.

Comments

Proof that they've appeared in SMG2:

Click for larger ones. SWFlash (talk)

You forgot Super Mario Galaxy. LeftyGreenMario (talk)

Even if they appear in SMG and SMG2, my reasoning still applies. There is not enough information that could be placed on the article that is not redundant with the World aricle, the stadium articles, and the galaxy articles. Bop1996 (talk)

And why do we have articles like this one on our wiki? SWFlash (talk)

Because there is more information on that article than would appear in the articles where Torpedo Teds are mentioned. Bop1996 (talk)

===Mariowiki User Arena===
I really think that we should add a user battle page, like the Kirby Wiki does! I've been to that place before, and it's awesome! So, I got the bright idea, "Maybe we should, instead of having a character arena, have a user arena for this wiki! It totally makes sense! So, what the [[Sysops]] and [[Patrollers]] should get rid of a page that is too stubby, and make it a user arena! It's as awesome as Awesomesauce! :)

'''Proposer''': {{User|Fawful117}}<br>
'''Deadline''': June 5th, 2011

>#Fawful117 (talk) Please! we must do this! This wiki isn't good enough!</nowiki> Now, post your approvals below!

====Support====
#{{User|[place username here]}}

====Oppose====

====Comments====

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