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==Merge==
==Merge==
{{TPP}}
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|10-15|No merge}}
 
Merge with [[Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World]], and Possibly the WiiMake. REASON: Both of the Latter pages are short, nearly stubs, and are simililar. Heck, the WiiMake is like Virtual Console, and the SMW version is just bulking up the package. The don't need seperate pages.<br>
Merge with [[Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World]], and Possibly the WiiMake. REASON: Both of the Latter pages are short, nearly stubs, and are simililar. Heck, the WiiMake is like Virtual Console, and the SMW version is just bulking up the package. The don't need seperate pages.<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|LucariosAura}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|LucariosAura}}<br>
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#{{User|LucariosAura}}
#{{User|LucariosAura}}
#{{User|SWFlash}} I agree (SMAS+SMASSMW+SMASW)
#{{User|SWFlash}} I agree (SMAS+SMASSMW+SMASW)
#{{User|DK Fan}} Hm, makes sense.
#{{User|Mariofanatic64}} SMAS and the 25th Anniversary Edition are exactly the same game. The only difference is the package and the extra gifts. All that would need to be done is put another two paragraphs for +SMW and 25th Anniversary respectively, and detail the (very mere) differences between them.
#{{User|Liamroche}} SMAS + SMW are the same, except with an extra game....
#{{User|Mpeng}} A detailed wiki is good, but excess pages on topics nearly the same are not.
#{{User|KirbyMario64}} Yeah, I'd think it would be a smart idea too, since those are just mario-collection packs games.
#{{User|The Cosmic Vin}} Per everything but the opposes and negative comments
#{{User|Austinkshum}} It's all the same stuff but with extras.
#{{User|Magikrazy51}} They're technically the same game, so a remake section is needed for Super Mario All-Stars.


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#{{User|Zero777}} I am Zero! Though the latter is different by a bit the content is different, and there are slight changes made between each game. Also the 25th Anniversary deserves its own article. Zero signing out.
#{{User|Zero777}} I am Zero! Though the latter is different by a bit, the content is different, and there are slight changes made between each game. Also the 25th Anniversary deserves its own article. Zero signing out.
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} I agree with Zero. The 25th Anniversary deserves it's own article, especially with all the "extra" stuff. (CD, booklet etc.)
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} I agree with Zero. The 25th Anniversary deserves it's own article, especially with all the "extra" stuff. (CD, booklet etc.)
#{{user|Tucayo}} - Per all
#{{User|Tucayo}} - Per all
#{{User|Ultramariologan}} Per all.
#{{User|Ultramariologan}} Per all.
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} Per all.
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} Per all.
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} Per all.
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} Per all.
 
#{{User|Arend}} Per all: the Anniversary edition deserves his own article. The SMW-included version also kinda deserves his own article, in some way: it has changes from the original SMW (ex: Luigi's height).
#{{User|MarioManiac}} Per all.
#{{User|WigglerWhoopin'Warrior135}} Per all.
#{{User|Koopalmier}} While the World version could be merged with the original article, the 25th anniversary edition deserves its own.
#{{User|Mario&Kirby180}} I agree with Koopalmier, the 25th anniversary edition does deserve its own because it has the soundtrack and history booklet.
#{{User|Steverocks27}} Per all: It is much easier getting around the internet when someone does not merge pages.
#{{User|New Super Mario}} Per all. Zero especially.
#{{User|Nerfman2227}} Per all. They are all different games, like Super Mario All Stars + Super Mario World has, well, you know. Then the 25th Anniversary version has the History book and the wonderful CD.
#{{User|AnimalCrossingCool}}Per all.
===Comments===
===Comments===
Reasons? You need a reason. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}} 12:37, 6 January 2011 (EST)
Reasons? You need a reason. {{User:MrConcreteDonkey/sig}} 12:37, 6 January 2011 (EST)
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With the articles being kept split, should we split all the [[Super Mario Advance]] games from the respective original games? Examples: ''Super Mario Advance (game)'' split from ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' and ''Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3'' from ''Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island''. These remakes are more different from the originals than the Anniversary edition of All-Stars is to the original game. Though I disagree in merging them (see my vote) {{User|Arend}}
With the articles being kept split, should we split all the [[Super Mario Advance]] games from the respective original games? Examples: ''Super Mario Advance (game)'' split from ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' and ''Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3'' from ''Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island''. These remakes are more different from the originals than the Anniversary edition of All-Stars is to the original game. Though I disagree in merging them (see my vote) {{User|Arend}}
:It was split before, until a proposal like this one suddenly appeared on main page. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
:No, we are not splitting those articles again, regardless of what happens here: we already know that would be a mistake and that the wiki is better off with them merged. Also, just out of curiosity, how are the votes going to be tallied? There's a lot of Opposers who want the SNES games merged but the Wii port left separate, and there's a couple supporters who only want the Wii game merged... It would have made more sense to have multiple voting categories, imho. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 11:41, 12 January 2011 (EST)
::Nevermind: I removed the support votes that were really opposing to make tallying the scores a straightforward "all or nothing" decision. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 11:29, 18 January 2011 (EST)
== Some features ==
Is it me, or are some features similar to the Super Show? Something tells me that it has been partially based off of it. Some features might be based off of the 3 cartoons, as well.
:The Ninji's design, i'd recommand comparing it to the Yoshi Shuffle design.
:The drums in the SMB2 boss battle.
:Some bass notes in the SMAS SMB1 Overworld.
And there are slightly more features, i haven't cited yet. Or maybe it's just all coincidences, and i'm just being paranoid? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 07:28, October 25, 2020 (EDT)
== Remasters and remakes. What's the difference? ==
Super Mario All-Stars actually contains remakes, here is the difference between a remake and a remaster https://sirusgaming.com/2018/05/01/the-difference-between-a-remake-and-a-remaster/
{{unsigned|Rowbro}}
:Here is how I understand it: if the underlying code for a video game is rewritten from the ground up, it is correctly called a remake; otherwise, it fits under another definition, but it is somewhat nebulous as to what exactly since not everyone uses the same terms. As certain leaks have revealed, ''Super Mario All-Stars'' directly reuses source code from the original games' development, so it technically is not a compilation of remakes, but rather of (enhanced) ports (or remasters if that is another word for it). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:20, January 15, 2021 (EST)
== BR Youtuber finds thing in All-Stars SMB2 (Video in BR Portuguese) ==
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhMuFWS6978=659s]

Latest revision as of 12:40, December 27, 2024

Merge[edit]

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No merge 10-15

Merge with Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World, and Possibly the WiiMake. REASON: Both of the Latter pages are short, nearly stubs, and are simililar. Heck, the WiiMake is like Virtual Console, and the SMW version is just bulking up the package. The don't need seperate pages.
Proposer: LucariosAura (talk)
Deadline: 20 January 2011 23:59 GMT

Support[edit]

  1. LucariosAura (talk)
  2. SWFlash (talk) I agree (SMAS+SMASSMW+SMASW)
  3. DK Fan (talk) Hm, makes sense.
  4. Mariofanatic64 (talk) SMAS and the 25th Anniversary Edition are exactly the same game. The only difference is the package and the extra gifts. All that would need to be done is put another two paragraphs for +SMW and 25th Anniversary respectively, and detail the (very mere) differences between them.
  5. Liamroche (talk) SMAS + SMW are the same, except with an extra game....
  6. Mpeng (talk) A detailed wiki is good, but excess pages on topics nearly the same are not.
  7. KirbyMario64 (talk) Yeah, I'd think it would be a smart idea too, since those are just mario-collection packs games.
  8. The Cosmic Vin (talk) Per everything but the opposes and negative comments
  9. Austinkshum (talk) It's all the same stuff but with extras.
  10. Magikrazy51 (talk) They're technically the same game, so a remake section is needed for Super Mario All-Stars.

Oppose[edit]

  1. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! Though the latter is different by a bit, the content is different, and there are slight changes made between each game. Also the 25th Anniversary deserves its own article. Zero signing out.
  2. SuperYoshiBros (talk) I agree with Zero. The 25th Anniversary deserves it's own article, especially with all the "extra" stuff. (CD, booklet etc.)
  3. Tucayo (talk) - Per all
  4. Ultramariologan (talk) Per all.
  5. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) Per all.
  6. Bowser's luma (talk) Per all.
  7. Arend (talk) Per all: the Anniversary edition deserves his own article. The SMW-included version also kinda deserves his own article, in some way: it has changes from the original SMW (ex: Luigi's height).
  8. MarioManiac (talk) Per all.
  9. WigglerWhoopin'Warrior135 (talk) Per all.
  10. Koopalmier (talk) While the World version could be merged with the original article, the 25th anniversary edition deserves its own.
  11. Mario&Kirby180 (talk) I agree with Koopalmier, the 25th anniversary edition does deserve its own because it has the soundtrack and history booklet.
  12. Steverocks27 (talk) Per all: It is much easier getting around the internet when someone does not merge pages.
  13. New Super Mario (talk) Per all. Zero especially.
  14. Nerfman2227 (talk) Per all. They are all different games, like Super Mario All Stars + Super Mario World has, well, you know. Then the 25th Anniversary version has the History book and the wonderful CD.
  15. AnimalCrossingCool (talk)Per all.

Comments[edit]

Reasons? You need a reason. FakeIco MCD.png MrConcreteDonkey 12:37, 6 January 2011 (EST)

Done. Thought it was obvious, obviously wasn't, aploligies. LucariosAura (used to be specialk) 13:28, 6 January 2011 (EST)
Okay, thank you. FakeIco MCD.png MrConcreteDonkey 13:00, 7 January 2011 (EST)

With the articles being kept split, should we split all the Super Mario Advance games from the respective original games? Examples: Super Mario Advance (game) split from Super Mario Bros. 2 and Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 from Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. These remakes are more different from the originals than the Anniversary edition of All-Stars is to the original game. Though I disagree in merging them (see my vote) Arend (talk)

It was split before, until a proposal like this one suddenly appeared on main page. SWFlashSWFlash.svg
No, we are not splitting those articles again, regardless of what happens here: we already know that would be a mistake and that the wiki is better off with them merged. Also, just out of curiosity, how are the votes going to be tallied? There's a lot of Opposers who want the SNES games merged but the Wii port left separate, and there's a couple supporters who only want the Wii game merged... It would have made more sense to have multiple voting categories, imho. - Walkazo 11:41, 12 January 2011 (EST)
Nevermind: I removed the support votes that were really opposing to make tallying the scores a straightforward "all or nothing" decision. - Walkazo 11:29, 18 January 2011 (EST)

Some features[edit]

Is it me, or are some features similar to the Super Show? Something tells me that it has been partially based off of it. Some features might be based off of the 3 cartoons, as well.

The Ninji's design, i'd recommand comparing it to the Yoshi Shuffle design.
The drums in the SMB2 boss battle.
Some bass notes in the SMAS SMB1 Overworld.

And there are slightly more features, i haven't cited yet. Or maybe it's just all coincidences, and i'm just being paranoid? --Ski Yoshi FanOfYoshi A Dr. Freezegood 07:28, October 25, 2020 (EDT)

Remasters and remakes. What's the difference?[edit]

Super Mario All-Stars actually contains remakes, here is the difference between a remake and a remaster https://sirusgaming.com/2018/05/01/the-difference-between-a-remake-and-a-remaster/
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rowbro (talk).

Here is how I understand it: if the underlying code for a video game is rewritten from the ground up, it is correctly called a remake; otherwise, it fits under another definition, but it is somewhat nebulous as to what exactly since not everyone uses the same terms. As certain leaks have revealed, Super Mario All-Stars directly reuses source code from the original games' development, so it technically is not a compilation of remakes, but rather of (enhanced) ports (or remasters if that is another word for it). LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:20, January 15, 2021 (EST)

BR Youtuber finds thing in All-Stars SMB2 (Video in BR Portuguese)[edit]

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