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:No, this polixy only applies to pages that say that they enforce this policy. Something along the lines of "'''''This page observes the No-Signature Policy''''''". If it doesn't mention the policy in an enforcing manner, then using signatures is fine. {{User:Super Mario Bros./sig}} 14:24, 26 December 2009 (EST)
:No, this polixy only applies to pages that say that they enforce this policy. Something along the lines of "'''''This page observes the No-Signature Policy''''''". If it doesn't mention the policy in an enforcing manner, then using signatures is fine. {{User:Super Mario Bros./sig}} 14:24, 26 December 2009 (EST)
::Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Should we mention that on the policy page, then? {{User|Garlic Man}}
::Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Should we mention that on the policy page, then? {{User|Garlic Man}}
:Actually, there is one rule that applies to the whole wiki in general: Rule 8, which states that there must be a link to either the user's page or talk page. Besides that, the other rules of the policy can only be in effect when it is mentioned that the policy is in effect. {{User:Super Mario Bros./sig}} 11:32, 29 December 2009 (EST)
Simple question:
WHY?
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how come there even IS a no-sig policy? i hate that... how do you even NOT put your name there? [[File:Green_lightsaber.jpg|35px]][[User: CatJedi|CatJedi's been here....]][[User talk:CatJedi|..]][http://whiskerpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Whiskerpedia_Wiki a comment] [[File:Jedikirby_2.gif|35px|I'm trying to slice CatJedi's sig!]][[File:Nyan Cat.gif|NyanNyanNyan!]]
::The primary reason is because of the first point: "The signature codes that are not allowed are <nowiki>~~~(~)</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{User:User Name Here/sig}}</nowiki>. Some of these signatures reset the number count on voting pages. While not all signatures reset number counts, it wouldn't be fair to allow some personalized signatures while banning others, so none of them are to be used." To sign your comments on pages that implement this policy, you can use <nowiki>{{User|Username here}}</nowiki> or <nowiki>[[User:Username here|Name]]</nowiki>. All of this is explained on the page accompanying this one. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}
:::Also, I would like to note that the no-signature policy is also to save loading time (or something like that) because signatures DO take up some work for the website. This is why signatures are not allowed in the comments of FA nominations and proposals (the other reason, which people have stated that it would "complicate" the rule, I think is a very weak argument). {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 20:46, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
== Proposals example ==
''This policy only applies to pages that say that they enforce the No-Signature Policy (for instance, [[MarioWiki:Proposals]]).''
That should be changed as the proposals page no longer follows the No-Signature Policy. {{User:Driftmaster130/sig}} 15:59, 24 June 2016 (EDT)
== Rethinking the no-signature policy ==
I always figured that the policy was built on really shaky premises (we should force fall-back on badly coded signatures that reset votes rather than bar everyone from using them) but I think there's also utility on allowing users to use their signatures even for voting. It's convenient to type, sure, but allowing signatures also helps plop a time stamp on when the votes are casted. Yeah, the votes without no-sig policy look cleaner, but it's probably useful if votes had timestamps on them too. Just a thought. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 21:45, March 20, 2019 (EDT)
:Maybe you should first go about proposing a ban on the signatures that reset voting numbers. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 22:25, March 20, 2019 (EDT)
::If we wanted a time thing, we could always do <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>, which appears as this: 22:57, March 20, 2019 (EDT). This is better in that it there is no worry about signature resetting the vote, but it is <nowiki>{{user|Yoshi the SSM}}~~~~~</nowiki> in length as opposed to <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 22:57, March 20, 2019 (EDT)
:::Signatures that reset the vote is just incompetence at signature making. IMO barring signatures in voting is like barring all signatures because some user didn't include an end tag and all font beyond the signature gets screwed up. But anyway, that solution seems very cumbersome to me, not a great workaround for what I see is more of a problem with this policy. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 15:04, March 28, 2019 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 14:04, March 28, 2019

It's unfortunate that this policy is needed because users can't do their coding right! * and # lists are screwed up because tags are left unclosed or something like <i>...</em> or </font color>. I'm not arguing it but I think the lack of implementing some other policies led to this one... Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 22:49, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

Indeed, I agree with you. In fact, I would love to see this policy vanish from the wiki, as I would love to use my signature when signing comments and such, it is much easier. Other users have come up with lame excuses such as the signatures slowing down the website, but it is only putting a certain amount of bytes on the page. I completely agree with you, Wayoshi, and I think other policies should be made/enforced so that users with good signatures and do their coding correct aren't punished for other users; mistakes. · SMB (Talk) · 23:02, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
I remember signatures becoming a problem on the Proposals page while ago, but does that mean this rule bans signatures from the entire wiki, talk pages and all? Marcelagus (TCE)
No, this polixy only applies to pages that say that they enforce this policy. Something along the lines of "This page observes the No-Signature Policy'". If it doesn't mention the policy in an enforcing manner, then using signatures is fine. · SMB (Talk) · 14:24, 26 December 2009 (EST)
Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Should we mention that on the policy page, then? Garlic Man (talk)
Actually, there is one rule that applies to the whole wiki in general: Rule 8, which states that there must be a link to either the user's page or talk page. Besides that, the other rules of the policy can only be in effect when it is mentioned that the policy is in effect. · SMB (Talk) · 11:32, 29 December 2009 (EST)

Simple question: WHY? World of Freak An animated ? Block from Super Mario Bros. (Overworld palette)

how come there even IS a no-sig policy? i hate that... how do you even NOT put your name there? Green lightsaber.jpgCatJedi's been here......a comment I'm trying to slice CatJedi's sig!NyanNyanNyan!

The primary reason is because of the first point: "The signature codes that are not allowed are ~~~(~) and {{User:User Name Here/sig}}. Some of these signatures reset the number count on voting pages. While not all signatures reset number counts, it wouldn't be fair to allow some personalized signatures while banning others, so none of them are to be used." To sign your comments on pages that implement this policy, you can use {{User|Username here}} or [[User:Username here|Name]]. All of this is explained on the page accompanying this one. Mario4Ever (talk)
Also, I would like to note that the no-signature policy is also to save loading time (or something like that) because signatures DO take up some work for the website. This is why signatures are not allowed in the comments of FA nominations and proposals (the other reason, which people have stated that it would "complicate" the rule, I think is a very weak argument). Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 20:46, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

Proposals example[edit]

This policy only applies to pages that say that they enforce the No-Signature Policy (for instance, MarioWiki:Proposals). That should be changed as the proposals page no longer follows the No-Signature Policy. driftmaster130 (TalkEdits) 15:59, 24 June 2016 (EDT)

Rethinking the no-signature policy[edit]

I always figured that the policy was built on really shaky premises (we should force fall-back on badly coded signatures that reset votes rather than bar everyone from using them) but I think there's also utility on allowing users to use their signatures even for voting. It's convenient to type, sure, but allowing signatures also helps plop a time stamp on when the votes are casted. Yeah, the votes without no-sig policy look cleaner, but it's probably useful if votes had timestamps on them too. Just a thought. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 21:45, March 20, 2019 (EDT)

Maybe you should first go about proposing a ban on the signatures that reset voting numbers. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 22:25, March 20, 2019 (EDT)
If we wanted a time thing, we could always do ~~~~~, which appears as this: 22:57, March 20, 2019 (EDT). This is better in that it there is no worry about signature resetting the vote, but it is {{user|Yoshi the SSM}}~~~~~ in length as opposed to ~~~~. Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) 22:57, March 20, 2019 (EDT)
Signatures that reset the vote is just incompetence at signature making. IMO barring signatures in voting is like barring all signatures because some user didn't include an end tag and all font beyond the signature gets screwed up. But anyway, that solution seems very cumbersome to me, not a great workaround for what I see is more of a problem with this policy. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 15:04, March 28, 2019 (EDT)