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I can't quite count the episodes of the show: looking in [[Wikipedia: Saturday Supercade]], I noticed something wrong, please follow my thoughts: | I can't quite count the episodes of the show: looking in [[Wikipedia: Saturday Supercade]], I noticed something wrong, please follow my thoughts: | ||
in the ''Featured Characters'' section it states that in season one there were three weekly cartoons (Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr. and Frogger) plus two rotating cartoons (Q*Bert and Pitfall!); then in season two Donkey Kong returned and Q*Bert did the same but this time weekly; the new cartoons were Space Ace and Kangaroo. What makes me confused is the section ''Segments'': Space Ace and Kangaroo have 13 listed episodes, that means season two was composite of 13 episodes; Same thing for season one, counting 13 episodes for both DKJr. and Frogger. Then Pitfall! has only 7 episodes (a half of season one) while Q*Bert has 19 (the other 6 episodes of season one plus all the 13 from season two). So I think Donkey Kong episode list misses 7 episodes, because the count should reach 26 (13+13, every single episode from both seasons) and not 19. What do you think? --[[User:Kombatgod|Kombatgod]] 19:06, 2 April 2009 (EDT) | in the ''Featured Characters'' section it states that in season one there were three weekly cartoons (Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr. and Frogger) plus two rotating cartoons (Q*Bert and Pitfall!); then in season two Donkey Kong returned and Q*Bert did the same but this time weekly; the new cartoons were Space Ace and Kangaroo. What makes me confused is the section ''Segments'': Space Ace and Kangaroo have 13 listed episodes, that means season two was composite of 13 episodes; Same thing for season one, counting 13 episodes for both DKJr. and Frogger. Then Pitfall! has only 7 episodes (a half of season one) while Q*Bert has 19 (the other 6 episodes of season one plus all the 13 from season two). So I think Donkey Kong episode list misses 7 episodes, because the count should reach 26 (13+13, every single episode from both seasons) and not 19. What do you think? --[[User:Kombatgod|Kombatgod]] 19:06, 2 April 2009 (EDT) | ||
:We've only listed ones that are Mario related, those characters had no interaction with Donkey Kong & others, so thats why. I'm kinda confused by the last part, because I don't see how there could be 26. Sorry, I'm not that good at math. Your saying that there should be 26 DK episodes right? Could you explain that part again? {{User:Super-Yoshi/sig}} | |||
::Yeah, maybe I said lots of useless things, plus my english is not perfect and I called 'episodes' the segments. I'll try to be clear: wikipedia states Donkey Kong Jr. was in every episode of season one and none of season two, while Donkey Kong were in every episode of both seasons. Now, DKJr. has 13 segments, and that's right; why does DK only has 6 more segments? It should have 13 more than Dkjr, because (as you can see from other games' segment list)it seems that season two was as long as season one.--[[User:Kombatgod|Kombatgod]] 19:42, 2 April 2009 (EDT) | |||
::Here, I also made a table: | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|- | |||
!style="background: #e3e3e3;"| cartoon | |||
!style="background: #e3e3e3;"| Segments in season 1 | |||
!style="background: #e3e3e3;"| Segments in season 2 | |||
!style="background: #e3e3e3;"| Total | |||
|- | |||
|Frogger | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
!align="center"|0 | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
|- | |||
|[[Donkey Kong Jr.]] | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
!align="center"|0 | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
|- | |||
|Pitfall! | |||
!align="center"|7 | |||
!align="center"|0 | |||
!align="center"|7 | |||
|- | |||
|Q*Bert | |||
!align="center"|6 | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
!align="center"|19 | |||
|- | |||
|Space Ace | |||
!align="center"|0 | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
|- | |||
|Kangaroo | |||
!align="center"|0 | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
|- | |||
|[[Donkey Kong]] | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
!align="center"|13 | |||
!align="center"|26? | |||
|} | |||
== Red Links == | |||
I am noting here that I removed all of the red-links just for reference. {{User:Super Mario Bros./sig}} | |||
I reverted those edits because removing red links is taking the article off of [[Special:Wantedpages]], and the red links were mostly valid Mario topics. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[File:Yoshi Mario Hat SM64DS.png|30px]] | |||
:Okay. {{User|Super Mario Bros.}} | |||
== "The" Saturday Supercade? == | |||
Seems to just be "Saturday Supercade" everwhere else, even on its title card on this very wiki... [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:27, 30 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:I'll probably move it. {{User:Mario/sig}} 01:42, 1 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Segment Compilation Links == | |||
The two links at the bottom link to removed videos, probably due to copyright or the deletion of the channels. Just thought I'd point this out. {{unsigned|31.52.57.190}} | |||
== MCA/Universal's involvement with the DK segments == | |||
I'm quoting two legal documents from the Universal v. Nintendo case to explain Universal Studios (and its then-parent company MCA/Music Corporation of America)'s involvement with the DK-related segments of Saturday Supercade. | |||
from https://casetext.com/case/universal-city-studios-inc-v-nintendo : | |||
''In November 1982, Nintendo negotiated a license agreement with Ruby-Spears giving Ruby-Spears the option to use the Donkey Kong name and character in a cartoon television series. In connection with the negotiations, Nintendo informed Ruby-Spears about the Universal litigation with Nintendo. Ruby-Spears told Nintendo there was no way Ruby-Spears or CBS Television was going to allow a Donkey Kong cartoon series to be aired without an arrangement with Universal. According to Ruby-Spears, Universal had a reputation of being very litigious, and although Ruby-Spears did not believe Universal had any rights, it advised another Nintendo licensee that Ruby-Spears intended to enter into a license with Universal because of Universal's power in the industry. On or about March 31, 1983, Universal and Ruby-Spears agreed that Universal would receive monies from the exploitation of Donkey Kong television programs and the right to distribute the programs produced off-network throughout the world in all media and forms. Universal did not seek or obtain any right to control or supervise Ruby-Spears' exploitation of Donkey Kong. On May 6, 1983, Universal issued a press release announcing that it had secured international television distribution rights in Donkey Kong. Universal's press release further stated that: "Donkey Kong, which is scheduled to appear for the first time on the CBS Network for Fall 1983, is based on the year's most popular video arcade game, which is made by Nintendo."'' | |||
and from https://casetext.com/case/universal-city-studios-v-nintendo-co : | |||
''Universal sought to enforce its rights against the Nintendo licensees. Atari, Coleco and Ruby-Spears settled Universal's claims against them over their use of Donkey Kong by agreeing to pay royalties to Universal amounting to several million dollars for Universal's covenant not to sue. In return, the Coleco and Atari agreements gave Universal a three percent royalty and the Ruby-Spears agreement gives Universal royalties as well as the right to distribute Donkey Kong programs produced off-network throughout the world, including pay and cable television, video discs and casettes. Universal does not control or supervise any of the three licensees' exploitation of Donkey Kong.'' | |||
--[[User:John Pannozzi|John Pannozzi]] ([[User talk:John Pannozzi|talk]]) 02:54, April 7, 2023 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 01:54, April 7, 2023
Only nineteen episodes?[edit]
I can't quite count the episodes of the show: looking in Wikipedia: Saturday Supercade, I noticed something wrong, please follow my thoughts: in the Featured Characters section it states that in season one there were three weekly cartoons (Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr. and Frogger) plus two rotating cartoons (Q*Bert and Pitfall!); then in season two Donkey Kong returned and Q*Bert did the same but this time weekly; the new cartoons were Space Ace and Kangaroo. What makes me confused is the section Segments: Space Ace and Kangaroo have 13 listed episodes, that means season two was composite of 13 episodes; Same thing for season one, counting 13 episodes for both DKJr. and Frogger. Then Pitfall! has only 7 episodes (a half of season one) while Q*Bert has 19 (the other 6 episodes of season one plus all the 13 from season two). So I think Donkey Kong episode list misses 7 episodes, because the count should reach 26 (13+13, every single episode from both seasons) and not 19. What do you think? --Kombatgod 19:06, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
- We've only listed ones that are Mario related, those characters had no interaction with Donkey Kong & others, so thats why. I'm kinda confused by the last part, because I don't see how there could be 26. Sorry, I'm not that good at math. Your saying that there should be 26 DK episodes right? Could you explain that part again? uper-Yoshi
- Yeah, maybe I said lots of useless things, plus my english is not perfect and I called 'episodes' the segments. I'll try to be clear: wikipedia states Donkey Kong Jr. was in every episode of season one and none of season two, while Donkey Kong were in every episode of both seasons. Now, DKJr. has 13 segments, and that's right; why does DK only has 6 more segments? It should have 13 more than Dkjr, because (as you can see from other games' segment list)it seems that season two was as long as season one.--Kombatgod 19:42, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
- Here, I also made a table:
cartoon | Segments in season 1 | Segments in season 2 | Total |
---|---|---|---|
Frogger | 13 | 0 | 13 |
Donkey Kong Jr. | 13 | 0 | 13 |
Pitfall! | 7 | 0 | 7 |
Q*Bert | 6 | 13 | 19 |
Space Ace | 0 | 13 | 13 |
Kangaroo | 0 | 13 | 13 |
Donkey Kong | 13 | 13 | 26? |
Red Links[edit]
I am noting here that I removed all of the red-links just for reference. · SMB (Talk) ·
I reverted those edits because removing red links is taking the article off of Special:Wantedpages, and the red links were mostly valid Mario topics. Yoshario
- Okay. Super Mario Bros. (talk)
"The" Saturday Supercade?[edit]
Seems to just be "Saturday Supercade" everwhere else, even on its title card on this very wiki... LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:27, 30 September 2014 (EDT)
Segment Compilation Links[edit]
The two links at the bottom link to removed videos, probably due to copyright or the deletion of the channels. Just thought I'd point this out.
The preceding unsigned comment was added by 31.52.57.190 (talk).
MCA/Universal's involvement with the DK segments[edit]
I'm quoting two legal documents from the Universal v. Nintendo case to explain Universal Studios (and its then-parent company MCA/Music Corporation of America)'s involvement with the DK-related segments of Saturday Supercade.
from https://casetext.com/case/universal-city-studios-inc-v-nintendo :
In November 1982, Nintendo negotiated a license agreement with Ruby-Spears giving Ruby-Spears the option to use the Donkey Kong name and character in a cartoon television series. In connection with the negotiations, Nintendo informed Ruby-Spears about the Universal litigation with Nintendo. Ruby-Spears told Nintendo there was no way Ruby-Spears or CBS Television was going to allow a Donkey Kong cartoon series to be aired without an arrangement with Universal. According to Ruby-Spears, Universal had a reputation of being very litigious, and although Ruby-Spears did not believe Universal had any rights, it advised another Nintendo licensee that Ruby-Spears intended to enter into a license with Universal because of Universal's power in the industry. On or about March 31, 1983, Universal and Ruby-Spears agreed that Universal would receive monies from the exploitation of Donkey Kong television programs and the right to distribute the programs produced off-network throughout the world in all media and forms. Universal did not seek or obtain any right to control or supervise Ruby-Spears' exploitation of Donkey Kong. On May 6, 1983, Universal issued a press release announcing that it had secured international television distribution rights in Donkey Kong. Universal's press release further stated that: "Donkey Kong, which is scheduled to appear for the first time on the CBS Network for Fall 1983, is based on the year's most popular video arcade game, which is made by Nintendo."
and from https://casetext.com/case/universal-city-studios-v-nintendo-co :
Universal sought to enforce its rights against the Nintendo licensees. Atari, Coleco and Ruby-Spears settled Universal's claims against them over their use of Donkey Kong by agreeing to pay royalties to Universal amounting to several million dollars for Universal's covenant not to sue. In return, the Coleco and Atari agreements gave Universal a three percent royalty and the Ruby-Spears agreement gives Universal royalties as well as the right to distribute Donkey Kong programs produced off-network throughout the world, including pay and cable television, video discs and casettes. Universal does not control or supervise any of the three licensees' exploitation of Donkey Kong.
--John Pannozzi (talk) 02:54, April 7, 2023 (EDT)