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When I was browsing the articles of video game things, I heard of the phrase "''Video game'' (language) instruction booklet" for games with multiple language manuals. For games with one manual, it is "''Video game'' instruction booklet" But in mid-2024, why did you change into "Video game in non-Latin language (''Romanization'') instruction booklet" for instruction booklets with non-Latin languages? Here is the [[Special:Diff/4275862|example]]. --[[User:YuRi YuZi]] 9:04, December 26, 2024 GMT
When I was browsing the articles of video game things, I heard of the phrase "''Video game'' (language) instruction booklet" for games with multiple language manuals. For games with one manual, it is "''Video game'' instruction booklet" But in mid-2024, why did you change into "Video game in non-Latin language (''Romanization'') instruction booklet" for instruction booklets with non-Latin languages? Here is the [[Special:Diff/4275862|example]]. --[[User:YuRi YuZi]] 9:04, December 26, 2024 GMT
:{{@|YuRi YuZi}} I wanted the title to be more consistent with the source material. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 05:51, December 27, 2024 (EST)
:{{@|YuRi YuZi}} I wanted the title to be more consistent with the source material. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 05:51, December 27, 2024 (EST)
== New <nowiki>{{a}}</nowiki> Templates? ==
Heya, Happy New Year! I noticed your edits on the King Boo page to implement this new template for links and things. I was wondering if you could link me to the discussion about it so I could understand it better, thanks! [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 22:16, January 1, 2025 (EST)
:{{@|MarioComix}} Unlike some of the other templates I've done, this one was created by someone else in response to a proposal that I've created. [https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/72#Add_an_abbreviation_template_to_type_out_full_game_titles This was the proposal] in question by the way. It's not required to use, such as in cases where Nintendo101 prefers not to use them while working on articles, but the consensus is that they're useful to have. While revising, moving things around, and adding citations, it's much more manageable than typing out the full game titles. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 23:22, January 1, 2025 (EST)
::Thanks for sharing! I'll see if there's still room to offer my 2 cents on the subject. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 05:34, January 2, 2025 (EST)
:::Super Mario RPG, you should know I have seen frustration from some users on how widely this template has been integrated, including in older articles that did not have any embedded link issues. An example of the comments I have seen are:
:::<blockquote>i thought it was just going to be like, "i'll use this if i don't feel like typing out a long game title". it's not so hard to type out ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'' that you need a template for it</blockquote>
:::I really think you should critically consider that, while a tool like this can be useful to some if they ''choose'' to use it, especially for long game names like ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'', a lot of users would prefer the text they type match what is displayed. It is just a lot more intuitive, and it makes it easier to edit down the road and for a wider net of people to understand. In my view, if a new user is coming to this site and wants to contribute, they should not feel like they need to be a savant in HTML coding, templates, or site policy. They should just need baseline reading comprehension and writing skills. I worry the widespread integration of this template into articles that do not necessarily need them, or for brief game titles, is more so discouraging than helpful. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 19:36, January 2, 2025 (EST)
::::{{@|Nintendo101}} Would you like for me to stop using it, then? [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 20:31, January 2, 2025 (EST)
:::::You shouldn't get rid of it since it is part of a proposal that passed democratically, but please avoid replacing preexisting links. I know you struggle not having everything on the site homogenized, and I do understand that to some degree. But this is also a communal craft, and folks should have some wiggle room with what tools they choose to use. I think one should be comfortable with the idea that not all articles have to use the same templates, and they don't even all have to use them to the same degree or the same way. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 21:07, January 2, 2025 (EST)
::::::{{@|Nintendo101}} So you're saying that from now on, I should only use it outside of articles unless it's new material being added? I've been fixing some of the pre-existing links and I'll try and minimize the use of the template from now on, even though it could be hard since it has proven to be convenient at times.  [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 21:11, January 2, 2025 (EST)
== On the recent, big proposal... ==
{{WikiLove Star Get}}
Glad to see the proposal to add a to-do to the Main Page passed with flying colors! It really was a great idea that will propel people toward helping the Wiki out with even basic maintenance, even if there may be adjustments needed to it in the future. {{User:OmegaRuby/sig}} 13:42, January 2, 2025 (EST)
:{{@|OmegaRuby}} There's a lot of deprecated templates that hadn't worked out for the community, and this will help make coordination easier in cases where a feature or a template from someone doesn't work out. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 21:25, January 2, 2025 (EST)

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Special:Diff/4408567[edit]

Already implementing that proposal I see. Keep it up, trooper. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 19:45, October 23, 2024 (EDT)

Thanks. That page looked really dated in parts (I think you removed some bad trivia, which was already a sign), so I took a look over the whole thing. Super Mario RPG (talk) 19:49, October 23, 2024 (EDT)

Is it weird that why did you use the "Video game in non-Latin language (Romanization) instruction booklet", instead of the "Video game (language) instruction booklet"?[edit]

When I was browsing the articles of video game things, I heard of the phrase "Video game (language) instruction booklet" for games with multiple language manuals. For games with one manual, it is "Video game instruction booklet" But in mid-2024, why did you change into "Video game in non-Latin language (Romanization) instruction booklet" for instruction booklets with non-Latin languages? Here is the example. --User:YuRi YuZi 9:04, December 26, 2024 GMT

@YuRi YuZi I wanted the title to be more consistent with the source material. Super Mario RPG (talk) 05:51, December 27, 2024 (EST)

New {{a}} Templates?[edit]

Heya, Happy New Year! I noticed your edits on the King Boo page to implement this new template for links and things. I was wondering if you could link me to the discussion about it so I could understand it better, thanks! MarioComix (talk) 22:16, January 1, 2025 (EST)

@MarioComix Unlike some of the other templates I've done, this one was created by someone else in response to a proposal that I've created. This was the proposal in question by the way. It's not required to use, such as in cases where Nintendo101 prefers not to use them while working on articles, but the consensus is that they're useful to have. While revising, moving things around, and adding citations, it's much more manageable than typing out the full game titles. Super Mario RPG (talk) 23:22, January 1, 2025 (EST)
Thanks for sharing! I'll see if there's still room to offer my 2 cents on the subject. MarioComix (talk) 05:34, January 2, 2025 (EST)
Super Mario RPG, you should know I have seen frustration from some users on how widely this template has been integrated, including in older articles that did not have any embedded link issues. An example of the comments I have seen are:

i thought it was just going to be like, "i'll use this if i don't feel like typing out a long game title". it's not so hard to type out Super Mario Bros. that you need a template for it

I really think you should critically consider that, while a tool like this can be useful to some if they choose to use it, especially for long game names like Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, a lot of users would prefer the text they type match what is displayed. It is just a lot more intuitive, and it makes it easier to edit down the road and for a wider net of people to understand. In my view, if a new user is coming to this site and wants to contribute, they should not feel like they need to be a savant in HTML coding, templates, or site policy. They should just need baseline reading comprehension and writing skills. I worry the widespread integration of this template into articles that do not necessarily need them, or for brief game titles, is more so discouraging than helpful. - Nintendo101 (talk) 19:36, January 2, 2025 (EST)
@Nintendo101 Would you like for me to stop using it, then? Super Mario RPG (talk) 20:31, January 2, 2025 (EST)
You shouldn't get rid of it since it is part of a proposal that passed democratically, but please avoid replacing preexisting links. I know you struggle not having everything on the site homogenized, and I do understand that to some degree. But this is also a communal craft, and folks should have some wiggle room with what tools they choose to use. I think one should be comfortable with the idea that not all articles have to use the same templates, and they don't even all have to use them to the same degree or the same way. - Nintendo101 (talk) 21:07, January 2, 2025 (EST)
@Nintendo101 So you're saying that from now on, I should only use it outside of articles unless it's new material being added? I've been fixing some of the pre-existing links and I'll try and minimize the use of the template from now on, even though it could be hard since it has proven to be convenient at times. Super Mario RPG (talk) 21:11, January 2, 2025 (EST)

On the recent, big proposal...[edit]

Artwork of a Star in Mario Party Superstars. Also used for Super Star in Super Mario Bros. Wonder. You got a Star for your hard work at editing!

Glad to see the proposal to add a to-do to the Main Page passed with flying colors! It really was a great idea that will propel people toward helping the Wiki out with even basic maintenance, even if there may be adjustments needed to it in the future. Small Luigi doing the V-sign in the Super Mario All-Stars remaster of Super Mario Bros. OmegaRuby [ Talk / Contribs ] 13:42, January 2, 2025 (EST)

@OmegaRuby There's a lot of deprecated templates that hadn't worked out for the community, and this will help make coordination easier in cases where a feature or a template from someone doesn't work out. Super Mario RPG (talk) 21:25, January 2, 2025 (EST)