Talk:Spiky John

Merge Spiky John and Spiky Tom into one article?

These two identical characters are only seen once in the game, sharing a scene with the same basic role. We have plenty of articles for duos shown in similar capacity that do not split the members of them (Cork and Cask, the Jellyfish Sisters, and Gramma Red and Gramma Green come to mind, and heck, the Koopa Bros. have more distinguishing characteristics and scenes from each other in the same game and they aren't split), so I see no reason for these to be split from each other - I think the articles should be merged to become "Spiky John and Spiky Tom." Mr. Hammer has the excuse of being a different species and having a slightly different role (asking the questions instead of answering them, as well as giving the rewards), so he can stay split. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:06, December 20, 2024 (EST)

I would agree to a merge.— Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 08:57, December 21, 2024 (EST)

Same here. Technetium (talk) 08:08, December 30, 2024 (EST)

definitely! — eviemaybe (talk / contributions) 09:27, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Merge with Spiky Tom

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Current time: Friday, January 17, 2025, 11:52 GMT

Per the above discussion. These are two characters with identical roles, identical appearances, names clearly meant to go together, who never appear apart from eachother. Here is their entire appearance in the game, for those lacking context.

Proposer: EvieMaybe (talk)
Deadline: January 26, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Merge

1. Spiky EvieMaybe (talk) Per spiky proposal.
2. ThePowerPlayer (talk) If Kat & Ana are merged, then these guys should be, too.
3. Technetium (talk) Per all.
4. LadySophie17 (talk) Per myself 3 weeks ago.
5. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - Considering the talk topic above was getting so much support, I'm not sure if this even needs a proposal.
6. Sparks (talk) Per all.
7. Rykitu (talk) Per ThePowerPlayer.
8. Pizza Master (talk) Per all.
9. TheFlameChomp (talk) The discussion above shows good examples of other character pairs from the RPGs that already receive this treatment, which convinced me to change my position from the previous proposal.

Spiky Comments

Would the merged page be called "Spiky John and Spiky Tom" or "Spiky Tom and Spiky John"? I assume the former since it's in alphabetical order but not sure if there's anything in-game that could indicate a preferred order (who shows up first, dialogue, etc). Technetium (talk) 21:52, January 11, 2025 (EST)

i don't know if we have a standard for it, but i will point out Tom stands to the left and John to the right, so if you wanted to base it off of that it'd be Spiky Tom and Spiky John. Tom also has the most prominent role out of the two, being the one who carries Peach off. — eviemaybe (talk / contributions) 22:24, January 11, 2025 (EST)

@Doc von Schmeltwick: It does need a proposal to overturn a previous one. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 07:28, January 12, 2025 (EST)

That old proposal got so much opposition that I’d like to hear some of their thoughts on this one now. — Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 07:52, January 12, 2025 (EST)

Well, my argument was mainly the existence of Goomba (Super Paper Mario character), but that doesn't hold up anymore. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 07:58, January 12, 2025 (EST)

Checking the history, this is another one of those pages from the early days of the wiki that didn't get noticed until now. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 08:18, January 12, 2025 (EST)

Not really. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 11:10, January 12, 2025 (EST)

Fair enough, but how come they weren't merged in the first place in terms of the opposing votes? PrincessPeachFan (talk) 13:01, January 13, 2025 (EST)

Reminder you should use multiple " : " to indent your comments on talk pages when you are replying to a comment above you. It makes the discussion much much easier to follow! — Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 16:22, January 15, 2025 (EST)

The original proposal brought up a bunch of irrelevant WarioWare duos (ironically, half of which are split now due to character divergence) rather than comparable situations in the RPGs, which probably didn't help its chances. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:33, January 16, 2025 (EST)