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Are we sure that the Hydro Seedles in the second Monster Mania quest are regular ones? TV Tropes calls them Hydro Seedle Rs and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw6zy-ffwUw this video]] calls them Hydro Seedle (Special) [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 19:53, December 2, 2024 (EST)
Are we sure that the Hydro Seedles in the second Monster Mania quest are regular ones? TV Tropes calls them Hydro Seedle Rs and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw6zy-ffwUw this video]] calls them Hydro Seedle (Special) [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 19:53, December 2, 2024 (EST)
:They're special as they've the special property of the fight, but the name shown in game is Hydro Seedle. [[User:LetsPlayNintendoITA|<span style="color:green">LetsPlay</span><span style="color:silver">Nintendo</span><span style="color:red">ITA</span>]] 20:05, December 2, 2024 (EST)
:They're special as they've the special property of the fight, but the name shown in game is Hydro Seedle. [[User:LetsPlayNintendoITA|<span style="color:green">LetsPlay</span><span style="color:silver">Nintendo</span><span style="color:red">ITA</span>]] 20:05, December 2, 2024 (EST)
::The video calls the Helmet Zok Trooper special too cause of their property in the fight. [[User:LetsPlayNintendoITA|<span style="color:green">LetsPlay</span><span style="color:silver">Nintendo</span><span style="color:red">ITA</span>]] 20:06, December 2, 2024 (EST)
== Peach kidnapped ==
Peach is kidnapped in this game, but in this game peach is not kidnapped by bowser or a new villain. Which is why it’s optional. [[Special:Contributions/73.142.13.185|73.142.13.185]] 10:37, December 15, 2024 (EST)
:It's optional because you can have Luigi get kidnapped by the Snaptors instead. [[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 10:39, December 15, 2024 (EST)
==Gossiping women==
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What names are used for the gossiping women on Shipshape? They definitely need an article, but I'd like to avoid using a conjectural name if possible. [[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 12:44, January 2, 2025 (EST)
==Which unnamed NPCs should get articles?==
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[[MarioWiki:Minor NPCs]] states that "if a minor NPC can be shown to have importance to the game or story, then the character warrants a conjectural name determined by the wiki and its own article." Besides the gossiping women (who definitely warrant an article and the question right now is what they should be called), there are many other minor NPCs who might deserve their own articles. I'd like to list the possibilities here so we can discuss each case - once we know who to make articles for, we can add them to the Brothership navigation box, giving us a clear indication of our progress on covering the game's characters.
Here are the possible characters I can think of right now - these conjectural names are not what would be used for the articles necessarily. Feel free to comment anymore I might've missed.
* Lottacoins Island cake maker (makes the cake for the wedding if you go with Shun's advice, though you can also totally ignore him if you don't listen to Shun)
* Slippenglide Island cake maker (same situation as above, but if you don't listen to Shun)
* The two flower crown guys (more wedding stuff)
* Explorer brothers (the guys on Allsand, they appear in multiple side quests)
* Bulbfish Island security guard (pretty important story wise, maybe security guard would count as a "name" here anyway…?)
* Security guard's brother (also plays a story role for Bulbfish and has a side quest)
* Lottacoins Island boss (his family getting kidnapped is a plot point on that island)
* One of the gossiping women's husbands (involved in a side quest iirc)
* The Club Dyode employee who hates Adaphne (based) (you need to talk to him to progress the story and get Adaphne out of the pool)
* Honestly a bunch more side quest characters, though I guess the thing there is that they could just be merged into the side quest page if they only ever appear in a single side quest
[[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 12:44, January 2, 2025 (EST)
:I do think very minor NPCs that only appear in side quests should be only mentioned in the [[List of Mario & Luigi: Brothership side quests]] article once we get that finished up. Characters that are connected to other characters that are important to the plot (like Ireen's mom) or appear semi-frequently (like the Explorer brothers) should get their own articles. I'm not sure about NPCs that only serve a super specific role in the plot, only for them to never be mentioned again, though.
{{User:TipoTimido33/sig}} 15:49, January 5, 2025 (EST)
::I Agree. also if there're a lot I'd do a separate page too [[User:LetsPlayNintendoITA|<span style="color:green">LetsPlay</span><span style="color:silver">Nintendo</span><span style="color:red">ITA</span>]] 17:09, January 5, 2025 (EST)
well.. that aint true... {{unsigned|Tick838}}
:What is not true? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 20:16, January 14, 2025 (EST)

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Developer[edit]

So, just to clarify, who exactly is developing this game if AlphaDream's been dead since the 2DS era? Was it not announced? S o m e t h i n g o n e ! Badge Bandit 19:42, June 18, 2024 (EDT)

Not sure they have mentioned that yet, this may be one of those things we may neec to wait until much closer to release before we know for sure. Mario jumping Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 19:44, June 18, 2024 (EDT)

Locations[edit]

Should we add a locations tab at this point? We know of a few locations already, namely the brothership.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ukalik (talk).

Resurrecting this topic: The localized names for four of the locations that were just added have been revealed. “Grangran” is Rumbla Island, “Twiss” is Twistee Island, and two other islands are named Lottacoins Island and Desolatt Island.
Not sure why the page is protected but this clearly needs be updated. —AquaBat (talk) 12:11, September 3, 2024 (EDT)

Characters Gallery[edit]

Can we atleast use the Japanese name (Kanji and romanji names) of Zokket's army from the official Japanense site of the game until the official English name is revealed? --MushroomX20 (talk) 03:10, October 13, 2024 (EDT)

Ice Bro[edit]

The enemies section lists one enemy as an "Ice Bro", but it's obscured by explosion effects, and it looks more like a Boomerang Bro to me due to the dark-blue shoes. Maybe it's best to list it as "unknown Hammer Bro variant" instead. —Back Alley Guy (talk) 04:42, October 21, 2024 (EDT)

Mario Movie reference?[edit]

I'm sorry, but I feel the scene of Mario and Luigi flying through the portal to Concordia is just too similar to the scene in the Warp Zone from the Mario Movie for it not to be classified on the page. Defefefe (talk) 07:02, November 6, 2024 (EST)

Agreed man! It almost didn't seem too good to be true at first glance! There's even that one scene where Mario and Luigi deliver a big finishing punch together. A small snippet of that was shown in the overview trailer. It perfectly mirrors that Mario Movie scene of them delivering the finishing blow to Bowser under the Super Star effect. I don't understand how it could be deemed a coincidence! -User:Jude da Dude

While this' has't been added to the page, I do believe you are onto something. Besides, The Super Mario Bros. Movie affected other Mario games already; in Super Mario Bros. Wonder, Peach's hairstyle as Fire Peach changed to resemble the one from the movie, and that's not to mention the more animations in the game, seemingly inspired by the movie.Artwork of a Wonder Flower from Super Mario Bros. Wonder Wonder Time! Artwork of a Wonder Flower from Super Mario Bros. Wonder

Reorganising Antagonists List[edit]

Hmm, how should we reorder this, now we know Zokket isn't the leader of his forces? For example, the final boss should probably be included under villains, but I don't know if they'd count as Zokket's army, a third category or if we'd need to rename that category after them or something.

--Cheat-master30 (talk) 14:10, November 7, 2024 (EST)

Spelling Mistake[edit]

In the sections where it is featured, the Gulchrock Sea is misspelt as the Glutchrock Sea. If anyone is looking at this, please try and fix this issue. Shy Guy the Masked (User talk:Shy Guy the Masked). 13:59, November 24, 2024 (UCT)

I looked and didn't find this "Glutchrock" spelling anywhere. The only typo I did find was it being spelled as "Gulchrok", which I did correct. Feel free to edit any typos you notice yourself, btw. Technetium (talk) 09:17, November 24, 2024 (EST)

Make pages for side quests?[edit]

I was talking on the Discord about what pages need to still be made for Brothership coverage, and the question of whether each side quest should get its own article came up. I am of the opinion that they should, given the TTYD Trouble Center requests all get one, and like those each of the Brothership side quests has a name and specific rewards for completion. There are also pages for the Sparks of Hope side quests, now that I checked. So yeah, I'm fairly confident that we should do the same for Brothership, and that a proposal shouldn't be needed, but I thought I'd still bring it up here. Technetium (talk) 18:43, November 25, 2024 (EST)

Glohm Ice and Fire Bros. and Glohm Jet Zok Troopers[edit]

Glohm Jet Zok Troopers are in the files but in the table someone extracted: Skorcheen Ice Bro 439 Flame_Icebros_01_Trio Heatfreeze Ice Bro 393 Kandan_Icebros_01 Heatfreeze Ice Bro 405 Kandan_Icebros_01_Legion thing is i went to heatfreeze but couldn't find any glohm ones ok no kandan is "Heatfreeze Island (カンダーン島, Kandān-jima)" i don't see how to identify thte glohm versions as that file doesn't have any except 3 LetsPlayNintendoITA 17:08, November 29, 2024 (EST)

Scooby-Doo reference?[edit]

I found a screenshot of the game on Reddit (link provided), and the image shows Snoutlet saying "Zoinks...they pounced from outta nowhere." (An obvious reference to Shaggy Rogers from the Scooby-Doo franchise.) https://www.reddit.com/r/Mario/comments/1gzkojs/like_zoinks_scooby_doo_reference_in_a_mario_game/ Should this be in the "References to other media" section? 184.190.131.102 22:12, November 30, 2024 (EST)

Hydro Seedles[edit]

Are we sure that the Hydro Seedles in the second Monster Mania quest are regular ones? TV Tropes calls them Hydro Seedle Rs and [this video] calls them Hydro Seedle (Special) PrincessPeachFan (talk) 19:53, December 2, 2024 (EST)

They're special as they've the special property of the fight, but the name shown in game is Hydro Seedle. LetsPlayNintendoITA 20:05, December 2, 2024 (EST)
The video calls the Helmet Zok Trooper special too cause of their property in the fight. LetsPlayNintendoITA 20:06, December 2, 2024 (EST)

Peach kidnapped[edit]

Peach is kidnapped in this game, but in this game peach is not kidnapped by bowser or a new villain. Which is why it’s optional. 73.142.13.185 10:37, December 15, 2024 (EST)

It's optional because you can have Luigi get kidnapped by the Snaptors instead. Technetium (talk) 10:39, December 15, 2024 (EST)

Gossiping women[edit]

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What names are used for the gossiping women on Shipshape? They definitely need an article, but I'd like to avoid using a conjectural name if possible. Technetium (talk) 12:44, January 2, 2025 (EST)

Which unnamed NPCs should get articles?[edit]

Block Super Mario World.png This talk page or section has a conflict or question that needs to be answered. Please try to help and resolve the issue by leaving a comment.

MarioWiki:Minor NPCs states that "if a minor NPC can be shown to have importance to the game or story, then the character warrants a conjectural name determined by the wiki and its own article." Besides the gossiping women (who definitely warrant an article and the question right now is what they should be called), there are many other minor NPCs who might deserve their own articles. I'd like to list the possibilities here so we can discuss each case - once we know who to make articles for, we can add them to the Brothership navigation box, giving us a clear indication of our progress on covering the game's characters.

Here are the possible characters I can think of right now - these conjectural names are not what would be used for the articles necessarily. Feel free to comment anymore I might've missed.

  • Lottacoins Island cake maker (makes the cake for the wedding if you go with Shun's advice, though you can also totally ignore him if you don't listen to Shun)
  • Slippenglide Island cake maker (same situation as above, but if you don't listen to Shun)
  • The two flower crown guys (more wedding stuff)
  • Explorer brothers (the guys on Allsand, they appear in multiple side quests)
  • Bulbfish Island security guard (pretty important story wise, maybe security guard would count as a "name" here anyway…?)
  • Security guard's brother (also plays a story role for Bulbfish and has a side quest)
  • Lottacoins Island boss (his family getting kidnapped is a plot point on that island)
  • One of the gossiping women's husbands (involved in a side quest iirc)
  • The Club Dyode employee who hates Adaphne (based) (you need to talk to him to progress the story and get Adaphne out of the pool)
  • Honestly a bunch more side quest characters, though I guess the thing there is that they could just be merged into the side quest page if they only ever appear in a single side quest

Technetium (talk) 12:44, January 2, 2025 (EST)

I do think very minor NPCs that only appear in side quests should be only mentioned in the List of Mario & Luigi: Brothership side quests article once we get that finished up. Characters that are connected to other characters that are important to the plot (like Ireen's mom) or appear semi-frequently (like the Explorer brothers) should get their own articles. I'm not sure about NPCs that only serve a super specific role in the plot, only for them to never be mentioned again, though.

TipoTimido!Battle idle animation of a Shy Guy from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 15:49, January 5, 2025 (EST)

I Agree. also if there're a lot I'd do a separate page too LetsPlayNintendoITA 17:09, January 5, 2025 (EST)

well.. that aint true...
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tick838 (talk).

What is not true? Small Mario sprite from Super Mario Bros. Mario JC 20:16, January 14, 2025 (EST)