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From what I've heard about this (as someone who has never used the invincibility leaf before), it's not even possible to store the invincibility leaf in item storage and you immediately lose the powerup after completing a level, so it seems like it's definitely not possible to have it in Champion's Road. So hacking seems to be the biggest possibility there. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 15:08, February 22, 2021 (EST)
From what I've heard about this (as someone who has never used the invincibility leaf before), it's not even possible to store the invincibility leaf in item storage and you immediately lose the powerup after completing a level, so it seems like it's definitely not possible to have it in Champion's Road. So hacking seems to be the biggest possibility there. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 15:08, February 22, 2021 (EST)


I found the original footage from that video, the uploader confirmed in the comments that it was a cheat done on an emulator. So no, you can't get the Invincibility Leaf in Champion's Road legitimately. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 15:10, February 22, 2021 (EST)
I found the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgTHAuRovOc original footage] from that video, the uploader confirmed in the comments that it was a cheat done on an emulator. So no, you can't get the Invincibility Leaf in Champion's Road legitimately. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 15:10, February 22, 2021 (EST)
 
== the article says that the course has no power-ups ==
 
but this contradicts the list of power-ups, which lists the piranha plant as a power-up. [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 15:33, May 22, 2021 (EDT)
:Potted Piranha Plants are items, not power-ups. It probably shouldn't be on that list at all. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 15:49, May 22, 2021 (EDT)
:: power-ups are items. [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 19:13, May 23, 2021 (EDT)
:::It's not really a power-up because it doesn't transform the character into a different form, it's just a support item that they carry around. In fact, it should be removed from the power-up list. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 19:22, May 23, 2021 (EDT)
::::By your logic, the 1-up mushroom isn't a power-up. [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 12:14, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
:::::I don't think Nintendo ever called it one, actually. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 12:25, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
::::::when has Nintendo ever called anything a power-up??? [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 17:30, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
::::::: [https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Kids-Club/Read-Discover/Mario-Power-Ups-1526883.html On their website, for starters.] {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 17:46, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::: that's not Nintendo of Japan. that's Nintendo UK. [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 17:02, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::And? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:18, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::the cannon box is called a power-up there, even though it doesn't transform you. [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 17:20, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ayj8YW8DwM Technically, they do :P] They attach to you and change how you play, falling off if you get hit. Similar to a Super Mushroom or Fire Flower. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:22, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::but it doesn't exactly transform you into a named form. it's not part of your body either. it's more headwear than part of your body. aside from that, the piranha plant also changes how the game is played. [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 18:25, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
:::::::::::::[https://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/arej/powerup/index.html Nintendo of Japan uses the term as well], and [https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=https://store-jp.nintendo.com/feature_mar002.html&prev=search&pto=aue on more than one occasion] (I can find further examples if needed). They seem to use the term in relation to transformative items and suits (the first link includes a picture of [[Propeller Box]] which, like [[Cannon Box]], is "headwear"). {{User:Stooben Rooben/sig}} 18:41, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
::::::::::::::headwear does not need into be in quotation marks. also, the latter link shows a goomba shoe, which is proving my point that it doesn't have to transform you to be a power-up, since the goomba shoe doesn't transform you. [[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 14:57, June 24, 2021 (EDT)
::::::: [[Power-up Panels]] from ''NSMBW'' comes to mind. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 17:05, May 26, 2021 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 13:57, June 24, 2021

For the sake of avoiding an edit war[edit]

We've already established that the Assist Block does not appear in this level in either version of the game, but it's not true that the Invincibility Leaf can't be brought in from elsewhere. I recently viewed this video on the game. 13:53 - 14:15 contains footage of the leaf clearly being used in Champion's Road, and unless that person hacked the game or something, then clearly there's an exploit.

Hope that clears things up. I will not revert unless there's a consensus. --CameronL365 Sprite of Wario about to perform a Barge, from Virtual Boy Wario Land. 13:38, February 22, 2021 (EST)

From what I've heard about this (as someone who has never used the invincibility leaf before), it's not even possible to store the invincibility leaf in item storage and you immediately lose the powerup after completing a level, so it seems like it's definitely not possible to have it in Champion's Road. So hacking seems to be the biggest possibility there. Mario jumping Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 15:08, February 22, 2021 (EST)

I found the original footage from that video, the uploader confirmed in the comments that it was a cheat done on an emulator. So no, you can't get the Invincibility Leaf in Champion's Road legitimately. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 15:10, February 22, 2021 (EST)

the article says that the course has no power-ups[edit]

but this contradicts the list of power-ups, which lists the piranha plant as a power-up. Pikachu210 (talk) 15:33, May 22, 2021 (EDT)

Potted Piranha Plants are items, not power-ups. It probably shouldn't be on that list at all. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 15:49, May 22, 2021 (EDT)
power-ups are items. Pikachu210 (talk) 19:13, May 23, 2021 (EDT)
It's not really a power-up because it doesn't transform the character into a different form, it's just a support item that they carry around. In fact, it should be removed from the power-up list. Mario jumping Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 19:22, May 23, 2021 (EDT)
By your logic, the 1-up mushroom isn't a power-up. Pikachu210 (talk) 12:14, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
I don't think Nintendo ever called it one, actually. Mario jumping Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 12:25, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
when has Nintendo ever called anything a power-up??? Pikachu210 (talk) 17:30, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
On their website, for starters.Stooben Rooben 17:46, May 24, 2021 (EDT)
that's not Nintendo of Japan. that's Nintendo UK. Pikachu210 (talk) 17:02, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
And? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 17:18, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
the cannon box is called a power-up there, even though it doesn't transform you. Pikachu210 (talk) 17:20, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
Technically, they do :P They attach to you and change how you play, falling off if you get hit. Similar to a Super Mushroom or Fire Flower. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 17:22, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
but it doesn't exactly transform you into a named form. it's not part of your body either. it's more headwear than part of your body. aside from that, the piranha plant also changes how the game is played. Pikachu210 (talk) 18:25, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
Nintendo of Japan uses the term as well, and on more than one occasion (I can find further examples if needed). They seem to use the term in relation to transformative items and suits (the first link includes a picture of Propeller Box which, like Cannon Box, is "headwear"). — Stooben Rooben 18:41, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
headwear does not need into be in quotation marks. also, the latter link shows a goomba shoe, which is proving my point that it doesn't have to transform you to be a power-up, since the goomba shoe doesn't transform you. Pikachu210 (talk) 14:57, June 24, 2021 (EDT)
Power-up Panels from NSMBW comes to mind. Scrooge200 (talk) PMCS Mustard Cafe Sign.png 17:05, May 26, 2021 (EDT)