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== Fire Wario ==
== Fire Wario ==


There's a Fire Wario in Super Mario Land 2. [[Image:MiniMario.png|29px]]<small>'''[[User:Minimariolover10|<span style="font-Family:font; color:Red;">Minimariolover10</span>]]'''  '''[[User talk:Minimariolover10|<span style="font-Family:font; color:Red;">TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!!</span>]]'''</small>
There's a Fire Wario in Super Mario Land 2. [[Image:NSMBUSmallMario.png|29px]]<small>'''[[User:Minimariolover10|<span style="font-Family:font; color:Red;">Minimariolover10</span>]]'''  '''[[User talk:Minimariolover10|<span style="font-Family:font; color:Red;">TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!!</span>]]'''</small>
 
Yeah that's right. Why do people always remove the reference to Fire Wario at the beginning of the article.--[[User:Xeze|Xeze]] 04:00, 14 February 2008 (EST)


== Fire Power without a Fire Flower? ==
== Fire Power without a Fire Flower? ==


Do we need a section on having Fire Powers without being in the form bacause it seems unneeded
Do we need a section on having Fire Powers without being in the form because it seems unrelated to the actual article - Kamicciolo
:I think we should have a triva note about how Mario sometimes use Fire without being Fire Mario, but no more than that. --[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] 17:02, 5 February 2008 (EST)


== First 3-D Fire Mario ==
== First 3-D Fire Mario ==
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-_-' Don't take it that literal, by 3D appearence it means a 3D Platformer Game, not side-scrolling like NSMB. {{user:Crypt Raider/sig}}
-_-' Don't take it that literal, by 3D appearence it means a 3D Platformer Game, not side-scrolling like NSMB. {{user:Crypt Raider/sig}}
==Remove the Rewrite Template?==
Just wondering if we should remove the rewrite template or is there still more work to be done? - Kamicciolo
== Reverting to the Super form ==
There were some mistakes on this subject. It was written that Super Mario World was the first game where Mario/Luigi reverted back to the Super form when damaged in their Fire form. It was actually in Super Mario Bros. 3. It only happened in the GBA remake of SMW. In the original, they would become small after a hit. I fixed it, already. --[[User:Xeze|Xeze]] 00:02, 26 November 2008 (EST)
== More Pictures? ==
I think there should be some pictures of [[Luigi]], [[Blue Toad]], and [[Yellow Toad]] in there Fire forms.  Or at least some screenshots - [[User:J-Yoshi64]]
:There is no aparent artwork--[[User:Master Koopakid|Master Koopakid]] 13:13, 19 February 2011 (EST)
It doesn't have to be artwork, just some sort of screenshot. Maybe someone could '''make''' it? - [[User:J-Yoshi64]]
That would be fan art. --{{User:Superfiremario/Sig}} 19:40, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
== Paper Mario Reference in Super Mario Galaxy music? ==
Can anyone else hear the intro to Tubba Blubba's battle theme in Super Mario Galaxy's fire flower music?
Tubba Blubba: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlZl731HR3A
Fire Flower: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3pDuzpNMYY
I'm not sure if this is just me, or if I should add this to the page or not. Does anyone else hear it and think it should be mentioned? --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 16:38, 18 April 2013 (EDT)
== Fire Rosalina ==
Anyone has a image of Fire Rosie???I read that sge uses a ponytail,and details of her dress turn red
[[File:AshleySmooth.png|35px]] [[User:Ashley anEoTselkie|Ashley anEoTselkie]] [[User talk:Ashley anEoTselkie|(<small>Talk</small>)]] [[File:Ashley WarioWare Touched.svg|35px]] 09:35, 16 November 2013 (EST)
== Pun? ==
'This form's '''polar''' opposite is Ice Mario'
Do I smell a pun?
{{unsigned|76.5.56.188}}
:Some newbie pr'y stuck it in there. Like I used to do [[File:NSMBU Roy Artwork.png|link=Special:Editcount/Roy Koopa|x35px]] [[User:Roy Koopa|Roy]] [[User talk:Roy Koopa|Koopa]] 19:17, 26 September 2015 (EDT)
::The core definition of "polar" is akin to "black and white". So, it's not really a pun, if not really contrived. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 19:58, 26 September 2015 (EDT)
== Luigi? ==
Noone screeenshot of Fire Luigi ... [[Special:Contributions/78.233.128.184|78.233.128.184]] 14:08, 13 October 2017 (EDT)
Remember that Fire Luigi has the same color palette as Fire Mario in ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]''
Also, have you checked the [[Gallery:Fire Mario|gallery]]? {{User:LED42/sig}} 14:27, 13 October 2017 (EDT)
== Theme ==
In ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' and ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'', the tune you can hear faintly in the background does not sound like the [[Super Star]] theme.  [[User:Torey|Torey]] ([[User talk:Torey|talk]]) 05:40, 11 February 2018 (EST)
Heeeyyy!!! [[User:Torey|Torey]] ([[User talk:Torey|talk]]) 23:17, 11 February 2018 (EST)
:I think there's hardly anything to say about this: the chord sequence is pretty much that one, and the lower pitched instruments have a part that sounds like the Starman theme as consequence. I would hardly be surprised if this wasn't a coincidence: in ''Super Mario 64'' too the caps, which were a timed powerup like the Fire Flower in both ''Super Mario Galaxy'' games, had each a variation of a Yoshi's Island theme that indeed featured the Starman theme as base.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 08:06, 12 February 2018 (EST)
:I don't know how to describe the sound, but you can faintly hear it in the background if you listen carefully (headphones recommended). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:48, 13 February 2018 (EST)
==Fire Koopa, and other "Super Koopa" forms==
I saw that on the [[Fire Koopa]] page, there was a proposition to merge it with the Fire Mario page, and it redirected to this talk page. I don't see any talk about this here, so I'll talk about it I guess. Shouldn't "Fire Koopa" be merged here, since it's not really a unique form? Same thing with [[Frog Koopa]] & [[Frog Mario]], and [[Raccoon Koopa]] & [[Raccoon Mario]], I think they should be merged since they're not really unique from each other. I do think the [[:File:SuperKoopaEpisode.jpg|Power up fusion]] should have a page though, since it is a more unique power up (it being a fusion of Fire, Raccoon, and the [[Goomba's Shoe]]). What do you guys think? The "Fire Koopa", "Frog Koopa" and "Raccoon Koopa" pages could be turned into redirects. --[[User:Metalex123|Metalex123]] ([[User talk:Metalex123|talk]]) 17:48, June 12, 2019 (EDT)
:I agree with you. I was also the one who added the merge propositions to the articles. [[User:Obsessive Mario Fan|Obsessive Mario Fan]] ([[User talk:Obsessive Mario Fan|talk]]) 18:01, June 12, 2019 (EDT)
== Super Smash Bros Red Rosalina ==
[[File:Rosalina SSB4 Artwork - Red.jpg|230px]] [[File:MKT Artwork FireRosalina.png|230px]]
Is this Smash Bros. recolor Fire Rosalina or not? I provided Fire Rosalina from that mobile game as a comparison. I'm leaning no due to the colors in various not matching (particularly the petticoat at the bottom the dress as well as the earrings). The white doesn't match with pale red/pink either, though some can argue it's just an off color, as how Fire Mario in Smash 4 [[:File:Mario SSB4 Artwork - Fire.jpg|has paler shoe soles]] than [[:File:Mario SSB4 Artwork.png|regular Mario]] as well as slightly yellower shoes, which I counter as just minor color differences compared to Rosalina's. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:07, May 14, 2022 (EDT)
:Unless there's any official material or comments from someone like Sakurai that confirms it or at least acknowledges the similarity, I would say no. It's not close enough. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:15, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

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Fire Wario[edit]

There's a Fire Wario in Super Mario Land 2. NSMBUSmallMario.pngMinimariolover10 TALK TO ME ABOUT MINIES!!

Yeah that's right. Why do people always remove the reference to Fire Wario at the beginning of the article.--Xeze 04:00, 14 February 2008 (EST)

Fire Power without a Fire Flower?[edit]

Do we need a section on having Fire Powers without being in the form because it seems unrelated to the actual article - Kamicciolo

I think we should have a triva note about how Mario sometimes use Fire without being Fire Mario, but no more than that. --Blitzwing 17:02, 5 February 2008 (EST)

First 3-D Fire Mario[edit]

It says that Super Mario Galaxy was the first 3-D appearance of Fire Mario, but wasn't Fire Mario in New Super Mario Bros.? The character models in that game were 3-D, but it was still a 2-D side-scroller, so should it count?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Red Snifit (talk).

-_-' Don't take it that literal, by 3D appearence it means a 3D Platformer Game, not side-scrolling like NSMB. GrodenE T C El

Remove the Rewrite Template?[edit]

Just wondering if we should remove the rewrite template or is there still more work to be done? - Kamicciolo

Reverting to the Super form[edit]

There were some mistakes on this subject. It was written that Super Mario World was the first game where Mario/Luigi reverted back to the Super form when damaged in their Fire form. It was actually in Super Mario Bros. 3. It only happened in the GBA remake of SMW. In the original, they would become small after a hit. I fixed it, already. --Xeze 00:02, 26 November 2008 (EST)

More Pictures?[edit]

I think there should be some pictures of Luigi, Blue Toad, and Yellow Toad in there Fire forms.  Or at least some screenshots - User:J-Yoshi64
There is no aparent artwork--Master Koopakid 13:13, 19 February 2011 (EST)

It doesn't have to be artwork, just some sort of screenshot. Maybe someone could make it? - User:J-Yoshi64

That would be fan art. --Glitchy Missingno.jpeg SuperfiremarioGlitchy Missingno.jpeg 19:40, 18 July 2011 (EDT)

Paper Mario Reference in Super Mario Galaxy music?[edit]

Can anyone else hear the intro to Tubba Blubba's battle theme in Super Mario Galaxy's fire flower music?

Tubba Blubba: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlZl731HR3A Fire Flower: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3pDuzpNMYY

I'm not sure if this is just me, or if I should add this to the page or not. Does anyone else hear it and think it should be mentioned? --174.59.4.202 16:38, 18 April 2013 (EDT)

Fire Rosalina[edit]

Anyone has a image of Fire Rosie???I read that sge uses a ponytail,and details of her dress turn red

Ashley Ashley anEoTselkie (Talk) Artwork of Ashley from WarioWare: Touched! 09:35, 16 November 2013 (EST)

Pun?[edit]

'This form's polar opposite is Ice Mario'

Do I smell a pun?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.5.56.188 (talk).

Some newbie pr'y stuck it in there. Like I used to do NSMBU Roy Artwork.png Roy Koopa 19:17, 26 September 2015 (EDT)
The core definition of "polar" is akin to "black and white". So, it's not really a pun, if not really contrived. Mario (Santa)'s map icon from Mario Kart Tour Mario-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 19:58, 26 September 2015 (EDT)

Luigi?[edit]

Noone screeenshot of Fire Luigi ... 78.233.128.184 14:08, 13 October 2017 (EDT)

Remember that Fire Luigi has the same color palette as Fire Mario in Super Mario Bros. Also, have you checked the gallery? Sprite of an Ice Snifit in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga. LED42™ (talkedits) 14:27, 13 October 2017 (EDT)

Theme[edit]

In Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2, the tune you can hear faintly in the background does not sound like the Super Star theme. Torey (talk) 05:40, 11 February 2018 (EST)

Heeeyyy!!! Torey (talk) 23:17, 11 February 2018 (EST)

I think there's hardly anything to say about this: the chord sequence is pretty much that one, and the lower pitched instruments have a part that sounds like the Starman theme as consequence. I would hardly be surprised if this wasn't a coincidence: in Super Mario 64 too the caps, which were a timed powerup like the Fire Flower in both Super Mario Galaxy games, had each a variation of a Yoshi's Island theme that indeed featured the Starman theme as base.--Mister Wu (talk) 08:06, 12 February 2018 (EST)
I don't know how to describe the sound, but you can faintly hear it in the background if you listen carefully (headphones recommended). Rosalina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 19:48, 13 February 2018 (EST)

Fire Koopa, and other "Super Koopa" forms[edit]

I saw that on the Fire Koopa page, there was a proposition to merge it with the Fire Mario page, and it redirected to this talk page. I don't see any talk about this here, so I'll talk about it I guess. Shouldn't "Fire Koopa" be merged here, since it's not really a unique form? Same thing with Frog Koopa & Frog Mario, and Raccoon Koopa & Raccoon Mario, I think they should be merged since they're not really unique from each other. I do think the Power up fusion should have a page though, since it is a more unique power up (it being a fusion of Fire, Raccoon, and the Goomba's Shoe). What do you guys think? The "Fire Koopa", "Frog Koopa" and "Raccoon Koopa" pages could be turned into redirects. --Metalex123 (talk) 17:48, June 12, 2019 (EDT)

I agree with you. I was also the one who added the merge propositions to the articles. Obsessive Mario Fan (talk) 18:01, June 12, 2019 (EDT)

Super Smash Bros Red Rosalina[edit]

Rosalina's red palette swap from Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS & Wii U, which is based on her Fire Flower color scheme from Super Mario 3D World. Fire Rosalina from Mario Kart Tour

Is this Smash Bros. recolor Fire Rosalina or not? I provided Fire Rosalina from that mobile game as a comparison. I'm leaning no due to the colors in various not matching (particularly the petticoat at the bottom the dress as well as the earrings). The white doesn't match with pale red/pink either, though some can argue it's just an off color, as how Fire Mario in Smash 4 has paler shoe soles than regular Mario as well as slightly yellower shoes, which I counter as just minor color differences compared to Rosalina's. Mario (Santa)'s map icon from Mario Kart Tour Mario-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 17:07, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

Unless there's any official material or comments from someone like Sakurai that confirms it or at least acknowledges the similarity, I would say no. It's not close enough. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 17:15, May 14, 2022 (EDT)