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== Bonjour == | == Bonjour == | ||
Oui, vous voulez quoi ? ----[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain]] [[User talk:Captain Yoshi|Yoshi]] [[File: | Oui, vous voulez quoi ? ----[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain]] [[User talk:Captain Yoshi|Yoshi]] [[File:MK8 Yellow Yoshi Icon.png | 25px]] 11:31, 14 May 2015 (EDT) | ||
Je suit passé dire un petit bonjour, et toi? | Je suit passé dire un petit bonjour, et toi? | ||
:Êtes vous français ? ----[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain]] [[User talk:Captain Yoshi|Yoshi]] [[File: | :Êtes vous français ? ----[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain]] [[User talk:Captain Yoshi|Yoshi]] [[File:MK8 Yellow Yoshi Icon.png | 25px]] 08:07, 15 May 2015 (EDT) | ||
:Oui --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 09:45, 16 May 2015 (EDT) | :Oui --[[Special:Contributions/83.156.220.80|83.156.220.80]] 09:45, 16 May 2015 (EDT) | ||
::Ok, si vous avez pas de compte, vous pouvez en crée un ! C'est gratuit est c'est permis, mais attention, pas de nom de gens connue (Adolf Hitler, Madonna, Barack Obama etc...) Vous avez compris ? --'''''[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain Yoshi]]''''' [[File: | ::Ok, si vous avez pas de compte, vous pouvez en crée un ! C'est gratuit est c'est permis, mais attention, pas de nom de gens connue (Adolf Hitler, Madonna, Barack Obama etc...) Vous avez compris ? --'''''[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain Yoshi]]''''' [[File:MK8 Yellow Yoshi Icon.png|link=User talk:Captain Yoshi|25px]] 12:29, 16 May 2015 (EDT) | ||
== Sluggy == | == Sluggy == | ||
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That's a combination of the Super FX sprite rotation along with certain image software to make jagged edges smoother, more than likely. In practice, it typically turns out rather cruddy. Anyways, regarding the actual artwork's coloring, it was all colored rather lazily for that game, so official artwork is still official artwork. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:01, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | That's a combination of the Super FX sprite rotation along with certain image software to make jagged edges smoother, more than likely. In practice, it typically turns out rather cruddy. Anyways, regarding the actual artwork's coloring, it was all colored rather lazily for that game, so official artwork is still official artwork. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:01, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | ||
:Dancing Spear Guys have actually had green stripes earlier than that, in multiple ''Mario Party'' appearances, and {{ | :Dancing Spear Guys have actually had green stripes earlier than that, in multiple ''Mario Party'' appearances, and {{file link|Don't Fear the Spear.png|not all Dancing Spear Guys had green face stripes in YNI}}, anyways. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:26, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | ||
::Then they didn't "receive a redesign" for YNI, they inherited their most recent design, which can be said for a variety of recurring enemies in the game. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:35, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | ::Then they didn't "receive a redesign" for YNI, they inherited their most recent design, which can be said for a variety of recurring enemies in the game. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:35, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | ||
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Yeah, it was in the section above yours. They were blocked for spamming, though. I doubt they meant to spam, though. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:33, 20 July 2018 (EDT) | Yeah, it was in the section above yours. They were blocked for spamming, though. I doubt they meant to spam, though. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:33, 20 July 2018 (EDT) | ||
:They were probably just trying to be nice. Anyways, if they get a new account on a different IP and make actual constructive edits this time, I personally don't see the harm in it. If they start spamming again, they'd be blocked again. Since I'm not a sysop nor a patroller, however, it wouldn't be in my power to actually do so. As for Rocky Wrench, what I believe needs to happen is that "Monty Mole" needs to be removed from its "parent species" list entirely due to predating it and the Japanese names having Monty be named after Rocky. I'll make a final proposal at some point to fix that, and probably just leave it alone following that. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:59, 20 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Re:Source of Needlenose Plant name. == | |||
No manual has it, although I suspect it's in either the ''Super Mario Advance 3'' guide or a ''Yoshi's Island DS'' guide. It at least has a Japanese counterpart. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:42, 23 August 2018 (EDT) | |||
:Not in the ''SMA3'' guide, checked that, too. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:45, 23 August 2018 (EDT) | |||
::Yes, "Sanbo Flower" should be the split page, but I'd suggest tentatively keeping "Needlenose-Plant" with its citation needed on the page until it's either proven or disproven to be from one of the ''Yoshi's Island DS'' guides ([[User:Time Turner|Time Turner]] should have a copy of both the Nintendo Power and Prima Games versions if you want to check in). As for Green Toady, I'm not sure if the ''Super Mario Advance 3'' guide separates it from Solo Toady since the Japanese guides don't do that and the Super Nintendo guide has a few enemy listing mistakes (ex. Blue Boo and Submarine Nep-Enut), but right now, I lean towards splitting it because enemy listings aren't always consistent (ex. Bouncing Bullet Bill and Relay Heihō are respectively listed under Bullet Bill and Boo Guy in Japanese ''Yoshi's Island'' guide but are treated separately in the Shogakukan ''Yoshi's New Island'' guide), and these clearly seem to have different behaviors. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:05, 23 August 2018 (EDT) | |||
:::Well, Time Turner hasn't been that active recently, so I'll leave that to your discretion. The Japanese guides I'm aware of don't mention multiple types of Toadies, but only seem to describe whichever one is pictured. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:39, 23 August 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Re:Super Mario: The first 30 years == | |||
''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'' has a list of characters, enemies and objects from all the main ''Super Mario'' games from ''Super Mario Bros.'' to ''Super Mario 3D World'' (including the first two ''Super Mario Land'' games and excluding remakes such as ''Super Mario 64 DS''). It doesn't have this information from the ''Yoshi'' series (even ''Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island''). Other names it'll affect include: falling slabs, Kaitensuru Honō, Genkotsu, Fire Jumping Piranha, Tenbōdai Course, Casino, most ''Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins'' enemies, Keronpa Ball, Pianta captain, Pianta Village mayor, Pinna Park director, Noki Elder, Noki Elder's grandson, ''Super Mario Galaxy'' "Tweester", Jump Garage/Guarder, Dai/Deka Anagon, Mini/Chibi Wanwan, Land Unizo, Obake Block, Obake Stand, RemoCon Clown, Whimp, Dai Gorō, Gūrindai, and probably more. It should also be useful for fringe cases such as determining if "Moneybags" should be the actual name of the Moneybag enemy, or supplanting certain article titles that currently use identifiers. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:46, 24 August 2018 (EDT) |
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Bonjour[edit]
Oui, vous voulez quoi ? ----Captain Yoshi 11:31, 14 May 2015 (EDT)
Je suit passé dire un petit bonjour, et toi?
- Êtes vous français ? ----Captain Yoshi 08:07, 15 May 2015 (EDT)
- Oui --83.156.220.80 09:45, 16 May 2015 (EDT)
- Ok, si vous avez pas de compte, vous pouvez en crée un ! C'est gratuit est c'est permis, mais attention, pas de nom de gens connue (Adolf Hitler, Madonna, Barack Obama etc...) Vous avez compris ? --Captain Yoshi 12:29, 16 May 2015 (EDT)
Sluggy[edit]
These spots are very much red and not pink. And due to it very deliberately shading into a light-yet-saturated lavender, it's pretty safe to assume they're intended to be a very light-tinted, iridescent, pinkish hue. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:54, 3 July 2018 (EDT)
- I'm the one who uploaded the YNI image, actually, but it's not terrifically relevant, as, for instance, Bouncing Bullet Bills went from yellow-orange to green between those games, and Harry Hedgehog went from light blue to purple. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 04:05, 3 July 2018 (EDT)
- Note how the same page gives Barney Bubble a white head with red feet, gives Kamek a paper-white face, and makes Fang purple with red wings. And those spots aren't pink, they're a desaturated red. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 04:13, 3 July 2018 (EDT)
Re:Yoshi's New Island[edit]
I beg your pardon? Use them how? (Addendum: No I do not, sorry.) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 05:45, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
- I don't know, these sometimes require precision, particularly on smaller pages, and artwork takes priority for infobox anyway. I mean, you can, but it may be difficult to do it well. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 05:49, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
- Indeed it does, but I can't exactly do anything about that. As previously discussed, the art for that game was often lazily-colored. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 06:00, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
RE: Prince Froggy[edit]
It's fine. Mario JC 07:42, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
Roger Lift[edit]
Roger Lift really shouldn't need a proposal, since they were only merged to begin with since it was convenient, and they are clearly very different things. And no, IPs cannot vote or start proposals. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:03, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
- As for Coin Bandit? I'm doing my best here, YNI is on my priorities list, but it's not the ultimate thing on it. Still though, thanks for finding that Shogakukan, knowing that there is more art for the game out there and that most of the "high quality" art is more than likely from SMA3 puts me at ease a bit. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:13, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
- By the way, check out Category:Yoshi's New Island Images if you haven't already, there were some Shogakukan pages uploaded that had small pictures of the enemies. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:20, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
- Nope, sorry. Do you remember any levels they appeared in? That would certainly help me acquired them....but then again, I've been using YouTube instead of emulator, as I don't emulate games I don't have from systems after the GBA for moral reasons. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:58, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
- Yeah, that's me. Thing about models, particularly in that game, is that in-game effects affect how the models look very much. Note how the bare models completely lack the oil paint aesthetic they have in-game. Colors are typically added by textures, though some games actually seem to use a color filter (look at Super Mario Sunshine's models, for example. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:30, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
- Nope, sorry. Do you remember any levels they appeared in? That would certainly help me acquired them....but then again, I've been using YouTube instead of emulator, as I don't emulate games I don't have from systems after the GBA for moral reasons. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:58, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
Re:Solo Toady found[edit]
I don't think it appeared in the video I watched, they must not have triggered it. Then again, that was quite a while ago. Might try again or watch another to see if I can find it.
On an unrelated note, I formerly used the YNI Zeus Guy render from TMR as a Discord avatar...but don't anymore.
Have a look-see here at what I did, if you're interested. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:04, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
- Thanks, I plan on making a sheet for all my sprite edits eventually, but it'll take time. Currently, I'm moving the SMA3 boss artwork from the SMW2 gallery to the SMA3 one, and dealing with all related links. I have more sprites in this forum thread right now. You can use them if you want, but I'd like to be given credit and be told what they're being used for. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:14, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
- Those fluid objects such as Salvo in the game are made using a rather bizarre triangle graphic that is manipulated by the Super FX chip, as seen here. The same technique is used to build the "3D" things in the original Star Fox. What I'm saying is that I don't know if I'll be able to make sprites for Salvo. As for why I made Harry Hedgehog look like Porcupo, its original Japanese name was the same as Porcupo's, and its current Japanese name translated roughly to "Super Porcupo." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:27, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
- The Hootie is nowhere near finished. That's why its lips look like that. I also made Spiked Fun Guy (the green one) a distinct thing, even though odds are pretty likely it was just a one-shot off-model version of the regular Pokey. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:36, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
- It's literally on Nintendo's site.... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:55, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
- The Hootie is nowhere near finished. That's why its lips look like that. I also made Spiked Fun Guy (the green one) a distinct thing, even though odds are pretty likely it was just a one-shot off-model version of the regular Pokey. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:36, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
- Those fluid objects such as Salvo in the game are made using a rather bizarre triangle graphic that is manipulated by the Super FX chip, as seen here. The same technique is used to build the "3D" things in the original Star Fox. What I'm saying is that I don't know if I'll be able to make sprites for Salvo. As for why I made Harry Hedgehog look like Porcupo, its original Japanese name was the same as Porcupo's, and its current Japanese name translated roughly to "Super Porcupo." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:27, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
The vectoring in the artwork[edit]
That's a combination of the Super FX sprite rotation along with certain image software to make jagged edges smoother, more than likely. In practice, it typically turns out rather cruddy. Anyways, regarding the actual artwork's coloring, it was all colored rather lazily for that game, so official artwork is still official artwork. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:01, 18 July 2018 (EDT)
- Dancing Spear Guys have actually had green stripes earlier than that, in multiple Mario Party appearances, and not all Dancing Spear Guys had green face stripes in YNI , anyways. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:26, 18 July 2018 (EDT)
- Then they didn't "receive a redesign" for YNI, they inherited their most recent design, which can be said for a variety of recurring enemies in the game. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:35, 18 July 2018 (EDT)
RE: Yoshi's Island Koshiki Guidebook[edit]
Some of them certainly look different from the in-game sprites, but I'm not sure myself. Maybe they were early sprites. Mario JC 03:37, 18 July 2018 (EDT)
Thank you.[edit]
Thank you for every edit you've ever done ever! Thanked you for your edit on (talk) 15:03, 19 July 2018 (EDT)
The Thank guy[edit]
Yeah, it was in the section above yours. They were blocked for spamming, though. I doubt they meant to spam, though. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:33, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
- They were probably just trying to be nice. Anyways, if they get a new account on a different IP and make actual constructive edits this time, I personally don't see the harm in it. If they start spamming again, they'd be blocked again. Since I'm not a sysop nor a patroller, however, it wouldn't be in my power to actually do so. As for Rocky Wrench, what I believe needs to happen is that "Monty Mole" needs to be removed from its "parent species" list entirely due to predating it and the Japanese names having Monty be named after Rocky. I'll make a final proposal at some point to fix that, and probably just leave it alone following that. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:59, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
Re:Source of Needlenose Plant name.[edit]
No manual has it, although I suspect it's in either the Super Mario Advance 3 guide or a Yoshi's Island DS guide. It at least has a Japanese counterpart. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:42, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
- Not in the SMA3 guide, checked that, too. 11:45, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
- Yes, "Sanbo Flower" should be the split page, but I'd suggest tentatively keeping "Needlenose-Plant" with its citation needed on the page until it's either proven or disproven to be from one of the Yoshi's Island DS guides (Time Turner should have a copy of both the Nintendo Power and Prima Games versions if you want to check in). As for Green Toady, I'm not sure if the Super Mario Advance 3 guide separates it from Solo Toady since the Japanese guides don't do that and the Super Nintendo guide has a few enemy listing mistakes (ex. Blue Boo and Submarine Nep-Enut), but right now, I lean towards splitting it because enemy listings aren't always consistent (ex. Bouncing Bullet Bill and Relay Heihō are respectively listed under Bullet Bill and Boo Guy in Japanese Yoshi's Island guide but are treated separately in the Shogakukan Yoshi's New Island guide), and these clearly seem to have different behaviors. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:05, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
- Well, Time Turner hasn't been that active recently, so I'll leave that to your discretion. The Japanese guides I'm aware of don't mention multiple types of Toadies, but only seem to describe whichever one is pictured. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:39, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
- Yes, "Sanbo Flower" should be the split page, but I'd suggest tentatively keeping "Needlenose-Plant" with its citation needed on the page until it's either proven or disproven to be from one of the Yoshi's Island DS guides (Time Turner should have a copy of both the Nintendo Power and Prima Games versions if you want to check in). As for Green Toady, I'm not sure if the Super Mario Advance 3 guide separates it from Solo Toady since the Japanese guides don't do that and the Super Nintendo guide has a few enemy listing mistakes (ex. Blue Boo and Submarine Nep-Enut), but right now, I lean towards splitting it because enemy listings aren't always consistent (ex. Bouncing Bullet Bill and Relay Heihō are respectively listed under Bullet Bill and Boo Guy in Japanese Yoshi's Island guide but are treated separately in the Shogakukan Yoshi's New Island guide), and these clearly seem to have different behaviors. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:05, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
Re:Super Mario: The first 30 years[edit]
Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia has a list of characters, enemies and objects from all the main Super Mario games from Super Mario Bros. to Super Mario 3D World (including the first two Super Mario Land games and excluding remakes such as Super Mario 64 DS). It doesn't have this information from the Yoshi series (even Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island). Other names it'll affect include: falling slabs, Kaitensuru Honō, Genkotsu, Fire Jumping Piranha, Tenbōdai Course, Casino, most Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins enemies, Keronpa Ball, Pianta captain, Pianta Village mayor, Pinna Park director, Noki Elder, Noki Elder's grandson, Super Mario Galaxy "Tweester", Jump Garage/Guarder, Dai/Deka Anagon, Mini/Chibi Wanwan, Land Unizo, Obake Block, Obake Stand, RemoCon Clown, Whimp, Dai Gorō, Gūrindai, and probably more. It should also be useful for fringe cases such as determining if "Moneybags" should be the actual name of the Moneybag enemy, or supplanting certain article titles that currently use identifiers. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:46, 24 August 2018 (EDT)