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==Split the two Cogs into separate articles== | ==Split the two Cogs into separate articles== | ||
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{{Proposal outcome|passed|8-0|split}} | |||
The item from ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' and the item''s'' from ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' are obviously supposed to be different. That should be plainly obvious by the fact that they're not even from the same series, let alone the same genre, but one is an individual item whereas the other one is collected in bulk, one is used for a crane machine while the other is used to awaken a volcano, one is obtained as a reward for level competion and the other is just sitting on a shelf... [[Talk:Elevator_Key#Split_the_Elevator_Keys|Elevator Key]] has already set a precedent for splitting items that are obviously not supposed to be the same thing, and this should be no different. Also, [[MarioWiki:Good_writing#Everything_but_the_kitchen_sink|MarioWiki:Good writing]] already discusses how stuffing every remotely similar subject into one article is not good regardless of how related they actually are; let's adhere to that. | The item from ''Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door'' and the item''s'' from ''Donkey Kong Country 3'' are obviously supposed to be different. That should be plainly obvious by the fact that they're not even from the same series, let alone the same genre, but one is an individual item whereas the other one is collected in bulk, one is used for a crane machine while the other is used to awaken a volcano, one is obtained as a reward for level competion and the other is just sitting on a shelf... [[Talk:Elevator_Key#Split_the_Elevator_Keys|Elevator Key]] has already set a precedent for splitting items that are obviously not supposed to be the same thing, and this should be no different. Also, [[MarioWiki:Good_writing#Everything_but_the_kitchen_sink|MarioWiki:Good writing]] already discusses how stuffing every remotely similar subject into one article is not good regardless of how related they actually are; let's adhere to that. | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
At the very least, I find it worth noting that both are used to activate a crane. However, the one in ''TTYD'' was obviously not intended to invoke the ones from the sort of-obscure ''DKC3''. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:58, 3 October 2017 (EDT) | At the very least, I find it worth noting that both are used to activate a crane. However, the one in ''TTYD'' was obviously not intended to invoke the ones from the sort of-obscure ''DKC3''. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:58, 3 October 2017 (EDT) | ||
:Well, I suppose the DKDT one was more for a pulley, looking at it again... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:27, 18 October 2017 (EDT) | |||
By the way, in addition to these collectible cogs, there is actually [[Esukatama|yet another obstacle]] referred to as a [https://archive.org/stream/Nintendo_Magazine_System_05_1993-08_Trielle_AU#page/n55/mode/2up "Cog"] - any thoughts on that? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:45, 10 October 2017 (EDT) | |||
:[[Category_talk:Objects#Mutually_exclude_items_and_objects|An object is different from an item]], and for simplicity's sake let's keep them separate. At the very least, though, the page should be moved: the Nintendo Magazine System has [[Witch (Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins)|already]] been [[Octopus (Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins)|used]] as an official source. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 12:51, 10 October 2017 (EDT) |
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Split the two Cogs into separate articles[edit]
This talk page proposal has already been settled. Please do not edit any of the sections in the proposal. If you wish to discuss the article, do so in a new header below the proposal. |
split 8-0
The item from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door and the items from Donkey Kong Country 3 are obviously supposed to be different. That should be plainly obvious by the fact that they're not even from the same series, let alone the same genre, but one is an individual item whereas the other one is collected in bulk, one is used for a crane machine while the other is used to awaken a volcano, one is obtained as a reward for level competion and the other is just sitting on a shelf... Elevator Key has already set a precedent for splitting items that are obviously not supposed to be the same thing, and this should be no different. Also, MarioWiki:Good writing already discusses how stuffing every remotely similar subject into one article is not good regardless of how related they actually are; let's adhere to that.
Proposer: Time Turner (talk)
Deadline: October 17, 2017, 23:59 GMT
Support[edit]
- Time Turner (talk) Per proposal.
- Mario Kart DS Fan (talk)Per proposal.
- Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) This one's a no-brainer. Per proposal.
- Owencrazyboy9 (talk) Doc von Schmeltwick does bring an interesting point. Per all.
- Alex95 (talk) - Per all.
- Yoshi the SSM (talk) Per all.
- Niiue (talk) Per all.
- TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all,
Oppose[edit]
Comments[edit]
At the very least, I find it worth noting that both are used to activate a crane. However, the one in TTYD was obviously not intended to invoke the ones from the sort of-obscure DKC3. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:58, 3 October 2017 (EDT)
- Well, I suppose the DKDT one was more for a pulley, looking at it again... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:27, 18 October 2017 (EDT)
By the way, in addition to these collectible cogs, there is actually yet another obstacle referred to as a "Cog" - any thoughts on that? LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:45, 10 October 2017 (EDT)
- An object is different from an item, and for simplicity's sake let's keep them separate. At the very least, though, the page should be moved: the Nintendo Magazine System has already been used as an official source. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 12:51, 10 October 2017 (EDT)