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===Merge the Minor Voice Actors together===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DON'T MERGE 3-16</span>
 
I noticed that many actors from the cartoons are just stubs. Also, there is a List of Cartoon Voice Actors article, and i was hoping we could merge all of the minor actors into that article, but keep the major ones, such as [[Lou Albano]] and [[Danny Wells]]. But, on the other hand, actors such as [[Aron Tager]] and [[Damon D'Oliveira]], that are very minor, should be merged into that article, since they are just stubs.
 
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Mileycyrussoulja}}<br>
'''Voting start''': 21:39, 26 October 2010 (GMT) <br>
'''Deadline''': 23:59 2 November 2010 (GMT)
 
====Merge====
#{{User|Mileycyrussoulja}} Per meh.
#{{User|FunkyK38}} I agree with this. It's the same thing on Bulbapedia. They have a huge table of voice actors that tells who voiced who and so on. It's a lot easier than having a bunch of stubs.
#{{User|Beecanoe}} Why not make a single page dedicated to voice actors, major or minor? Of course, no one listens to my ideas, so I'll have to say per Mileycyrussoulja
 
====Don't Merge====
#{{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}} I gave my reasons in the comments, there is no need to repeat.
#{{User|Fuzzipede27}} - Per BLOF
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} They're all important, no matter how minor a voice role they have.
#{{User|Garlic Stapler}} Voice actors are quite important really, per all.
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} If I was a voice actor, I would appreciate my own article. Per all.
#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} Per my comments.
#{{User|Edofenrir}} - Per FF65 and our policy.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all.
#{{User|Count Bonsula}} - Merge...is not always a good idea. Per all.
#{{User|DaisyRox02}} - Per Count Bonsula. Imagine the mess...(well, in other words, per all)
#{{User|MATEOELBACAN}} - Per all.
#{{User|Smasher 101}} - They deserve their own articles. Per all.
#{{User|Ralphfan}} &ndash; Per all.
#{{User|Mechayoshi}} The merger the maryer? Not this time.XD
#{{User|Jayt55}} Ditto to all opposers. ;)
#{{User|Rise Up Above It}} Per all.
 
====Comments====
I really don't think merging is the solution. We are supposed to expand on the articles rather than merge it. And no matter how minor a person or actor is, I believe that they should still have their own articles, just like the Mario Tennis generic humans. {{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}}
:Yeah, we should have an article for all of them because they are all important enough. {{User|Fawfulfury65}}
::I'm pretty much neutral on this situation. Though I do see some points brought up on the merging side, though they might not necessarily be the views of the proposer. What if the TV series just randomly comes back up, and they have a bunch of Goombas in one scene, all voiced by different actors, speaking a bunch of indistinct stuff. Would every person voicing said Goomba be noted? What if said person doesn't have a voice acting history, and only voices for this once? The page about them can never go above stub status. Though this is a 1 out of 999999999 situation, it could happen. Like I said, I'm neutral on this situation as I feel my vote might be biased. {{User|Basurao Pokabu Waribiaru Zeburaika Zuruguu A}}
:::Well, we just have to trust that Nintendo is not insane and that they will not make a new TV series with different actors for each enemy (what a budget). Also, show me any character that falls under your second thing, "not notable", I wanna remove the {{tem|stub}} immediately. {{User|Marioguy1}}
}}
 
===List of non-Mario game Characters Games===
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DON'T MAKE LIST 2-12</span>
 
Make a list of all of the non-Mario games any non-Mario character has appeared in, but has appeared alongside Mario in some game (such as Super Smash Bros. characters).
 
Setting out:
 
<nowiki>==Other Games==</nowiki>
 
(list all of the non-Mario games that particular character appears in to the Wikipedia page in bullet points)
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'''Proposer''': {{User|SKmarioman}}<br>
'''Voting start''': 26 October, 2010, 15:00<br>
'''Deadline''': 2 November, 2010, 23:59<br>
 
====Support====
#{{User|SKmarioman}} This will be useful so that not only readers know what other games a character has appeared in, but they will also have some information on that game.
#{{User|Beecanoe}} We have the right community for it, I think this is a great idea.  I'm also thinking, if this takes off.  We could even change our name.  The other wikis like BLOF said aren't populated enough.  We should take advantage of the fact that this is most likely the biggest gaming wiki on the internet.
 
====Oppose====
#{{user|Tucayo}} - This would be expanding way too much our coverage, no.
#{{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}} Our current coverage is fine. If you want to learn about Kirby's games, the Legend of Zelda's games, etc., this is the wrong wiki to be in. We have WiKirby, Zelda Wiki, Lylat Wiki, etc. for a reason.
#{{User|Fuzzipede27}} - Per BLOF
#{{User|Zero777}} I am Zero! Per first two comments and per all. Zero signing out.
#{{user|Rise Up Above It}} This is why we have NIWA...
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} Per all.
#{{User|Garlic Stapler}} - Cameos and that kind are in the reference section and per all.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all.
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} - Per all.
#{{User|MATEOELBACAN}} - Per all.
#{{User|Smasher 101}} - Per all.
#{{User|Ralphfan}} &ndash; Per all.
 
====Comments====
Wouldn't a extended List of Appearances be enough? {{User|LuigiMania}}
:Couldn't we just suffice with a "see the {{bp|Bulbapedia}} article on this subject" (for an example). I don't see the point in adding information that has nothing to do with what we cover. We just link them to another associate of NIWA (or wikipedia) and they can get much more in-depth information there. {{User|Marioguy1}}
::That's actually what this proposal is about. The idea is that the list of appearences links to the, let's say [[Pikachu]], to all of the Pokémon games he's appeared in, as well as the the Bulbapedia article.{{User|SKmarioman}}
:::So all the games in the lists would be links to the articles for those games on the other wikis? It's too much work for something that will ultimately not be used much: if the reader really wants to read about the characters' influences in the other series in that much detail, they would go to the other wiki, rather than bouncing between the list on our wiki and the info on theirs. - {{User|Walkazo}}
::::The basic idea of the proposal is so that users and readers can easily navigate around the enitire NIWA (and some other wikis) instead of just getting info from one wiki.
'''@Beecanoe''' Take a look around Bulbapedia. They are real big too. Like a Wailord. {{User|Bowser's luma}}
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Revision as of 20:35, November 3, 2010

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Merge the Minor Voice Actors together

DON'T MERGE 3-16

I noticed that many actors from the cartoons are just stubs. Also, there is a List of Cartoon Voice Actors article, and i was hoping we could merge all of the minor actors into that article, but keep the major ones, such as Lou Albano and Danny Wells. But, on the other hand, actors such as Aron Tager and Damon D'Oliveira, that are very minor, should be merged into that article, since they are just stubs.

Proposer: Mileycyrussoulja (talk)
Voting start: 21:39, 26 October 2010 (GMT)
Deadline: 23:59 2 November 2010 (GMT)

Merge

  1. Mileycyrussoulja (talk) Per meh.
  2. FunkyK38 (talk) I agree with this. It's the same thing on Bulbapedia. They have a huge table of voice actors that tells who voiced who and so on. It's a lot easier than having a bunch of stubs.
  3. Beecanoe (talk) Why not make a single page dedicated to voice actors, major or minor? Of course, no one listens to my ideas, so I'll have to say per Mileycyrussoulja

Don't Merge

  1. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) I gave my reasons in the comments, there is no need to repeat.
  2. Fuzzipede27 (talk) - Per BLOF
  3. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) They're all important, no matter how minor a voice role they have.
  4. Garlic Stapler (talk) Voice actors are quite important really, per all.
  5. Bowser's luma (talk) If I was a voice actor, I would appreciate my own article. Per all.
  6. Fawfulfury65 (talk) Per my comments.
  7. Edofenrir (talk) - Per FF65 and our policy.
  8. Walkazo (talk) - Per all.
  9. Count Bonsula (talk) - Merge...is not always a good idea. Per all.
  10. DaisyRox02 (talk) - Per Count Bonsula. Imagine the mess...(well, in other words, per all)
  11. MATEOELBACAN (talk) - Per all.
  12. Smasher 101 (talk) - They deserve their own articles. Per all.
  13. Ralphfan (talk) – Per all.
  14. Mechayoshi (talk) The merger the maryer? Not this time.XD
  15. Jayt55 (talk) Ditto to all opposers. ;)
  16. Rise Up Above It (talk) Per all.

Comments

I really don't think merging is the solution. We are supposed to expand on the articles rather than merge it. And no matter how minor a person or actor is, I believe that they should still have their own articles, just like the Mario Tennis generic humans. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

Yeah, we should have an article for all of them because they are all important enough. Fawfulfury65 (talk)
I'm pretty much neutral on this situation. Though I do see some points brought up on the merging side, though they might not necessarily be the views of the proposer. What if the TV series just randomly comes back up, and they have a bunch of Goombas in one scene, all voiced by different actors, speaking a bunch of indistinct stuff. Would every person voicing said Goomba be noted? What if said person doesn't have a voice acting history, and only voices for this once? The page about them can never go above stub status. Though this is a 1 out of 999999999 situation, it could happen. Like I said, I'm neutral on this situation as I feel my vote might be biased. Basurao Pokabu Waribiaru Zeburaika Zuruguu A (talk)
Well, we just have to trust that Nintendo is not insane and that they will not make a new TV series with different actors for each enemy (what a budget). Also, show me any character that falls under your second thing, "not notable", I wanna remove the {{stub}} immediately. Marioguy1 (talk)

List of non-Mario game Characters Games

DON'T MAKE LIST 2-12

Make a list of all of the non-Mario games any non-Mario character has appeared in, but has appeared alongside Mario in some game (such as Super Smash Bros. characters).

Setting out:

==Other Games==

(list all of the non-Mario games that particular character appears in to the Wikipedia page in bullet points)

Proposer: SKmarioman (talk)
Voting start: 26 October, 2010, 15:00
Deadline: 2 November, 2010, 23:59

Support

  1. SKmarioman (talk) This will be useful so that not only readers know what other games a character has appeared in, but they will also have some information on that game.
  2. Beecanoe (talk) We have the right community for it, I think this is a great idea. I'm also thinking, if this takes off. We could even change our name. The other wikis like BLOF said aren't populated enough. We should take advantage of the fact that this is most likely the biggest gaming wiki on the internet.

Oppose

  1. Tucayo (talk) - This would be expanding way too much our coverage, no.
  2. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) Our current coverage is fine. If you want to learn about Kirby's games, the Legend of Zelda's games, etc., this is the wrong wiki to be in. We have WiKirby, Zelda Wiki, Lylat Wiki, etc. for a reason.
  3. Fuzzipede27 (talk) - Per BLOF
  4. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! Per first two comments and per all. Zero signing out.
  5. Rise Up Above It (talk) This is why we have NIWA...
  6. Bowser's luma (talk) Per all.
  7. Garlic Stapler (talk) - Cameos and that kind are in the reference section and per all.
  8. Walkazo (talk) - Per all.
  9. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) - Per all.
  10. MATEOELBACAN (talk) - Per all.
  11. Smasher 101 (talk) - Per all.
  12. Ralphfan (talk) – Per all.

Comments

Wouldn't a extended List of Appearances be enough? LuigiMania (talk)

Couldn't we just suffice with a "see the Template:Bp article on this subject" (for an example). I don't see the point in adding information that has nothing to do with what we cover. We just link them to another associate of NIWA (or wikipedia) and they can get much more in-depth information there. Marioguy1 (talk)
That's actually what this proposal is about. The idea is that the list of appearences links to the, let's say Pikachu, to all of the Pokémon games he's appeared in, as well as the the Bulbapedia article.SKmarioman (talk)
So all the games in the lists would be links to the articles for those games on the other wikis? It's too much work for something that will ultimately not be used much: if the reader really wants to read about the characters' influences in the other series in that much detail, they would go to the other wiki, rather than bouncing between the list on our wiki and the info on theirs. - Walkazo (talk)
The basic idea of the proposal is so that users and readers can easily navigate around the enitire NIWA (and some other wikis) instead of just getting info from one wiki.

@Beecanoe Take a look around Bulbapedia. They are real big too. Like a Wailord. Bowser's luma (talk)