Talk:Game & Watch

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Where is Game Boy Gallery? Even though it was only released in Europe, it was the TRUE first installment of the Game & Watch Gallery series. (And before anyone says it doesn't have Mario and is not relevant to the Wiki, it has Mario's Cement Factory.) LinkTheLefty 13:29, 8 June 2012 (EDT)

Where are the early 90s Game & Watches based on Super Mario Bros 3, Super Mario World and Super Mario Kart? They were actual wrist-watches.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.137.109.57 (talk).

Mini classics

Are the mini classics on this page, I've been looking for a while but can't find them Bobster (talk) 13:31, June 10, 2020 (EDT)

Fake "sprites"

The following sprites are suspected to be fake: File:DKG&WMarioSprite.png File:DKGWDonkeyKongSprite.png File:DKIIDonkeyKongSprite.png File:DKIIMarioSprite.png File:MBG&WMarioSprite.png File:MBG&WLuigiSprite.png File:MBAMarioSprite.png File:MCMNWSSMarioSprite.png

They're claimed to have been directly "ripped" from the original LCD game, but they have jagged pixelated outlines that don't look anything like the LCD pattern sheets:

They're all uploaded by the same editor whose "sprites" for Donkey Kong Circus, Donkey Kong Jr. (Table Top), and Donkey Kong (tabletop arcade game) have been deleted for being fake.--Platform (talk) 08:02, March 31, 2025 (EDT)

Initially I thought these were simply mislabeled Game & Watch Gallery (series) sprites, but on closer inspection, that seems to not be the case. They're much too large compared to 1-3's sprites, and they lack the anti-aliasing of 4's. As far as I can tell, these are fully fan-made images. Can 'em.--PopitTart (talk) 08:18, March 31, 2025 (EDT)

Any "sprite" claimed to be "ripped" from an LCD screen is fake or misguided. The games did not use sprites, as the drawings were directly printed on the screens themselves.— Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 08:34, March 31, 2025 (EDT)

These always bothered me for the same reasons, but I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt they were from G&WG. Since PopitTart says they aren't though, I'd say get rid of them. The DSIWare ones also seem to be heavily anti-aliased. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 09:35, March 31, 2025 (EDT)

I've forwarded the first eight "sprites" for deletion. These Mario Bros. sprites concern me: File:Mario (G&W) -1.png File:Mario (G&W) -3.png File:Luigi -2.png File:Luigi -3.png Are they from Gallery 3 or 4?--Platform (talk) 00:23, April 1, 2025 (EDT)

Also seem fake. Way too many colors for 3, sprites don't match at all with 4.--PopitTart (talk) 01:56, April 1, 2025 (EDT)

I've been comparing them with the G&WG4 spite sheet and there seems to be minor differences. At first I thought it was the transparency getting in the way, but now I'm not so sure.--Platform (talk) 05:08, April 1, 2025 (EDT)

The myth of the "New" Wide Screen series

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Websites, wikis, books, and magazines going back to at least 1999 make the distinction of between the Wide Screen series and New Wide Screen series. According to them, the original Wide Screen series ('81-'82) had gold plated fronts while the New series ('82-'91) have other colors. Thusly, Donkey Kong Jr. (New Wide Screen), Mario's Cement Factory, Super Mario Bros. (Game & Watch), and Mario the Juggler are NWS and there are no Super Mario original WS. However, Nintendo's own G&W history site claims Super Mario Bros. 1988 release as the first NWS, which means Donkey Kong Jr. and Mario's Cement Factory are from the original WS series.

This discrepancy puzzled me so I looked at the original packaging. DK Jr.'sMedia:DKJr. NWS alt box.jpg and MCF's box artsMedia:Mario's Cement Factory NWS box alt.png simply say "Wide Screen". It's not just these two games, the Juggler's manual also lacks "New" despite being the very last of the LCD G&Ws. The English [1] [2], Japanese [3] [4], and French ads [5] from the '80s all lack "New" and make no distinction between the two.

I've come to the conclusion that "New" Wide Screen is a fanmade term originating from the '90s. Nintendo sloppily copied and misapplied it when creating their history site. I suggest deleting "New" from all mentions of "New Wide Screen" and renaming Donkey Kong Jr. (New Wide Screen)--Platform (talk) 02:01, April 2, 2025 (EDT).

(Cont.) Here's a translated quote from a Japanese blog:

By the way, this "The New Widescreen" series (other titles included) "Donkey Kong Jr." and "Mario's Cement Factory" conveniently called this to distinguish it from the conventional widescreen series, but as far as I know, there is no mention of the series name on any of the game packages, instruction manuals, leaflets, or flyers . Certainly, there are many ways to differentiate it from conventional widescreen models (price dropped from 6,000 to 4,800 yen, the body is now metallic color, etc.), but Is this series name really official? (In addition, the initial "Silver Series" is not strictly speaking official either.) If anyone has any information, please let us know on our website.

And another blog:

This low-cost series is called "New Wide" separately from the previous widescreen series. It is not an official series name, just like the Silver series.

The Silver series is the fan name for the first series of G&W games. Nintendo's history site has adopted it too.--Platform (talk) 05:51, April 2, 2025 (EDT)