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==Uh...==
Uh, the jump in Super Mario Bros. 2 is elsewhere referred to here in the Wiki as the Power Squat Jump, and it's technically NOT a Somersault. Should I edit that part out? {{User:Dinosaur bob/sig}} 23:07, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Uh, the jump in Super Mario Bros. 2 is elsewhere referred to here in the Wiki as the Power Squat Jump, and it's technically NOT a Somersault. Should I edit that part out? {{User:Dinosaur bob/sig}} 23:07, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
* If I remember correctly, Super Mario Advance gives the Power Squat Jump its own animation different from the usual jump, turning it into a backflip. [[Special:Contributions/76.177.198.199|76.177.198.199]] 14:44, 26 November 2014 (EST)
* If I remember correctly, Super Mario Advance gives the Power Squat Jump its own animation different from the usual jump, turning it into a backflip. [[Special:Contributions/76.177.198.199|76.177.198.199]] 14:44, 26 November 2014 (EST)
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All of those are true, but the game [[Super Mario Galaxy 2]] refers to it as a somersault. [[User:Koopa K|Koopa K! The KoopaTrooper User!]] ([[User talk:Koopa K|talk]]) 07:41, 21 August 2012 (EDT)
All of those are true, but the game [[Super Mario Galaxy 2]] refers to it as a somersault. [[User:Koopa K|Koopa K! The KoopaTrooper User!]] ([[User talk:Koopa K|talk]]) 07:41, 21 August 2012 (EDT)


== Merge [[Backflip]] here ==
== Merge [[Backflip]] here or split backwards somersault info and merge that to backflip ==


{{TPP}}
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|1-6-0-0|Split backwards somersault and merge that with backflip}}


These are the same thing. Having them split ''could'' make some amount of sense if back and side somersaults were split as they have elements of both, but they aren't split, and even then it could work. Also, more people are going to search for "backflip" anyways.
These are the same thing. Having them split ''could'' make some amount of sense if back and side somersaults were split as they have elements of both, but they aren't split, and even then it could work. Also, more people are going to search for "backflip" anyways.
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'''Deadline:''' February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT
'''Deadline:''' February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT


===Support===
===Merge here===
#[[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) Per above
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per above


===Oppose===
===Split backwards somersault and merge that with backflip===
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Per above
#{{User|Alex95}} - I'd rather see the two backflips merged on one page than just jamming two different types of flips together.
#{{User|Trig Jegman}} Back ''flip'' and back ''somersault'' are the same backwards height oriented move but not necessarily side somersault.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all.
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per all.
#{{User|Doomhiker}} Per all.
 
===Just split backwards somersault===
 
===Do nothing===


===Comments===
===Comments===
I'd rather see backflip and side somersault split first before this happens, tbh. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:01, February 11, 2020 (EST)
I'd rather see backflip and side somersault split first before this happens, tbh. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:01, February 11, 2020 (EST)
:Gotcha covered. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:04, February 11, 2020 (EST)
== So about the proposal ==
It's confusing how to proceed since it's been listed as passed, but not enacted in the proposals page at the time of this writing. What is more confusing is the present state of the page. There is an edit by a user that hasn't participated in the proposal (making me feel that they didn't realize their actions could've interfered with an oldish proposal a few months ago) and [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Backward_Somersault&diff=2979407&oldid=2930908 removed ''all'' information that isn't the backward somersault] in July 2020 (proposal was done in February 2020) and then moved the page to [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Backward_Somersault&diff=next&oldid=2979407 backward somersault]. Is this edit even allowed to happen? Should it have happened and remained there? Anyway, what we got at the time of this writing is some weird result where all content we have currently actually has to be fully merged to [[backflip]] to enact the proposal. In other words, this article is currently duplicate material with backflip. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:18, November 29, 2020 (EST)
:Sorry about that, I've been busy with school and job stuff. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:42, November 29, 2020 (EST)
::That's fair. I'm just wondering how to proceed with this article and have the proposal be enacted. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 15:54, November 30, 2020 (EST)
:::So when are you going to proceed with merging? it's almost been a year since you said that. --[[User:LewisCat28]] 19:25, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
::::Currently, I've been working on the backlog of my other projects, such as splitting the Super Mario RPG lists and uploading animations for enemies. I'll probably get to it after finishing the PM64 enemy animations. Note I ''do'' have an actual job now, so the amount of time per day I can use for this is limited. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:38, July 16, 2021 (EDT)

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Uh...[edit]

Uh, the jump in Super Mario Bros. 2 is elsewhere referred to here in the Wiki as the Power Squat Jump, and it's technically NOT a Somersault. Should I edit that part out? Dinosaur bob 23:07, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

  • If I remember correctly, Super Mario Advance gives the Power Squat Jump its own animation different from the usual jump, turning it into a backflip. 76.177.198.199 14:44, 26 November 2014 (EST)

How do you get the name 'Somersault' from a back-flip move? I think we should move this to a page called Backflip, since when Luigi performs it, it is called a Helicopter Backflip. -Cmario17 (talk)

The prima official game guide for Super Mario Galaxy calls it backflip. Petey Piranha in Mario & Luigi: Partners in TimeGalacticPeteyPetey Piranha in Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time

In the instruction booklet, it says this is Back Flip too. And there's an article called Back Flip.... Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC

All of those are true, but the game Super Mario Galaxy 2 refers to it as a somersault. Koopa K! The KoopaTrooper User! (talk) 07:41, 21 August 2012 (EDT)

Merge Backflip here or split backwards somersault info and merge that to backflip[edit]

Settledproposal.svg This talk page proposal has already been settled. Please do not edit any of the sections in the proposal. If you wish to discuss the article, do so in a new header below the proposal.

Split backwards somersault and merge that with backflip 1-6-0-0

These are the same thing. Having them split could make some amount of sense if back and side somersaults were split as they have elements of both, but they aren't split, and even then it could work. Also, more people are going to search for "backflip" anyways.

Proposer: Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
Deadline: February 26, 2020, 23:59 GMT

Merge here[edit]

  1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Per above

Split backwards somersault and merge that with backflip[edit]

  1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Per above
  2. Alex95 (talk) - I'd rather see the two backflips merged on one page than just jamming two different types of flips together.
  3. Trig Jegman (talk) Back flip and back somersault are the same backwards height oriented move but not necessarily side somersault.
  4. FanOfYoshi (talk) Per all.
  5. Power Flotzo (talk) Per all.
  6. Doomhiker (talk) Per all.

Just split backwards somersault[edit]

Do nothing[edit]

Comments[edit]

I'd rather see backflip and side somersault split first before this happens, tbh. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 21:01, February 11, 2020 (EST)

Gotcha covered. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:04, February 11, 2020 (EST)

So about the proposal[edit]

It's confusing how to proceed since it's been listed as passed, but not enacted in the proposals page at the time of this writing. What is more confusing is the present state of the page. There is an edit by a user that hasn't participated in the proposal (making me feel that they didn't realize their actions could've interfered with an oldish proposal a few months ago) and removed all information that isn't the backward somersault in July 2020 (proposal was done in February 2020) and then moved the page to backward somersault. Is this edit even allowed to happen? Should it have happened and remained there? Anyway, what we got at the time of this writing is some weird result where all content we have currently actually has to be fully merged to backflip to enact the proposal. In other words, this article is currently duplicate material with backflip. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:18, November 29, 2020 (EST)

Sorry about that, I've been busy with school and job stuff. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:42, November 29, 2020 (EST)
That's fair. I'm just wondering how to proceed with this article and have the proposal be enacted. Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 15:54, November 30, 2020 (EST)
So when are you going to proceed with merging? it's almost been a year since you said that. --User:LewisCat28 19:25, July 15, 2021 (EDT)
Currently, I've been working on the backlog of my other projects, such as splitting the Super Mario RPG lists and uploading animations for enemies. I'll probably get to it after finishing the PM64 enemy animations. Note I do have an actual job now, so the amount of time per day I can use for this is limited. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:38, July 16, 2021 (EDT)