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During his keynote speech at the Game Developers Conference 2007, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] revealed what eventually happened to ''Super Mario 128''. "What happened to Mario 128?" said [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]] at the end of his keynote, "most of you already played it..." The screen then transitioned from ''Mario 128'' to ''Pikmin''.
During his keynote speech at the Game Developers Conference 2007, [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] revealed what eventually happened to ''Super Mario 128''. "What happened to Mario 128?" said [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]] at the end of his keynote, "most of you already played it..." The screen then transitioned from ''Mario 128'' to ''Pikmin''.


==Secretive true sequel to ''Super Mario 64''==
Aside from the tech demo shown off, another ''Super Mario 128'' was secretly in development, with [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] being the director. This would have been the final game that he directed, had it been completed. He stated that the reason why he wanted to make a sequel, which would have taken at least one and a half years according to an interview at the 1996 Electronic Entertainment Expo, was because ''[[Super Mario 64]]'' used only 60% of the capacity of the [[Nintendo 64]].


==Secretive True Sequel to ''Super Mario 64''==
The game was originally planned to release on the [[Nintendo 64DD]] peripheral for the system, but was shifted to the [[Nintendo GameCube|GameCube]] following the development being delayed after the release of ''[[zeldawiki:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time]]'', which had been delayed to a 1998 release, as well as the 64DD's discontinuation due to its commercial failure. The game would have featured a potential co-op single-player mode featuring [[Mario]] and [[Luigi]], as well as four-player split-screen multiplayer akin to ''[[Mario Kart 64]]'' with rumors stating that [[Princess Peach|Peach]] and [[Toad]] were meant to be playable in multiplayer, something that would not happen until ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'' in 2013, as well as rumors from the European magazine, Nintendo Official Magazine (rebranded as Official Nintendo Magazine in later years), that stated that [[Yoshi]] would have been rideable.
Aside from the tech demo shown off, another ''Super Mario 128'' was secretly in development, with [[Shigeru Miyamoto]] being the director. This would've been the final game that he directed, had it been completed. He stated that the reason why he wanted to make a sequel, which would've taken at least a year-and-a-half according to an interview at the 1996 Electronic Entertainment Expo, was because ''[[Super Mario 64]]'' used only 60% of the capacity of the [[Nintendo 64]].


The game was originally planned to release on the [[Nintendo 64DD]] peripheral for the system, but was shifted to the [[Nintendo GameCube|GameCube]] following the development being delayed after the release of ''[[zeldawiki:The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time]]'', which had been delayed to a 1998 release, as well as the [[Nintendo 64DD|64DD]]'s discontinuation due to its commercial failure. The game would've featured a potential co-op single-player mode featuring [[Mario]] and [[Luigi]], as well as four-player split-screen multiplayer akin to ''[[Mario Kart 64]]'' with rumors stating that [[Princess Peach|Peach]] and [[Toad]] were meant to be playable in multiplayer, something that wouldn't happen until ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'' in 2013, as well as rumors from the European magazine, Nintendo Official Magazine (rebranded as Official Nintendo Magazine in later years), that stated that [[Yoshi (species)|Yoshi]] would've been riden like in Super Mario 64.
In 1999, Miyamoto began to express disapproval over the ''[[Mario (franchise)|Mario]]'' series becoming too child-friendly, believing that players would grow out of those kinds of games when they reached middle school. He wanted to stop [[Mario]] from using his peace sign gesture and have him stop smiling and laughing for no good reason, due to those qualities factoring in what he felt was not right. He also wanted the game to have more mature graphics and a more grown-up version of the title character, even going so far as having an interview in an issue of the Japanese magazine, Playboy Weekly, promising that the game would have a fresh new experience.


In 1999, [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]] began to express disapproval over the [[Mario (franchise)|Mario]] series becoming too child-friendly, believing that players would grow out of those kinds of games when they reached middle school. He wanted to stop [[Mario]] from using his peace sign gesture and have him stop smiling and laughing for no good reason, due to those qualities factoring in what he felt wasn't right. He also wanted the game to have more mature graphics and a more grown-up version of the title character, even going so far as having an interview in an issue of the Japanese magazine, Playboy Weekly, promising that the game would have a fresh new experience.
Fans expected the game to appear at E3's showings in 2003 and 2004, but the game was not shown at all due to Miyamoto wanting to keep the new ideas for the game from being copied by other companies, even saying at E3 2005 that the game may not be released on GameCube after all. At the Game Developers Conference 2007, where he revealed that the tech demo shown off at Space World 2000 became ''[[pikipedia:Pikmin (game)|Pikmin]]'' in terms of gameplay, he said that it also became ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' in terms of stage design. Reporters stopped asking him about the game, and he was happy to never talk about it since.
 
Fans expected the game to appear at E3's showings in 2003 and 2004, but the game wasn't show at all due to [[Shigeru Miyamoto|Miyamoto]] wanting to keep the new ideas for the game from being copied by other companies, even saying at E3 2005 that the game may not be released on GameCube after all. At the Game Developers Conference 2007, where he revealed that the tech demo shown off at Spaceworld 2000 became ''[[pikipedia:Pikmin (game)|Pikmin]]'' in terms of gameplay, he said that it also became ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' in terms of stage design. Reporters stopped asking him about the game, and he was happy to never talk about it since.


This interpretation of ''Super Mario 128'' seemed to influence other games like ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'' ([[Luigi]]'s playability), ''[[zeldawiki:The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask|The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask]]'' and ''[[pikipedia:Pikmin 2|Pikmin 2]]'' (single-player cooperative gameplay), ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'' (the ability to ride [[Yoshi (species)|Yoshi]]), ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'' (four-player cooperative multiplayer), and both ''Super Mario Sunshine'' and ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' (the removal of Mario's peace sign gesture prior to its return in ''[[Super Mario Odyssey]]'').
This interpretation of ''Super Mario 128'' seemed to influence other games like ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'' ([[Luigi]]'s playability), ''[[zeldawiki:The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask|The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask]]'' and ''[[pikipedia:Pikmin 2|Pikmin 2]]'' (single-player cooperative gameplay), ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'' (the ability to ride [[Yoshi (species)|Yoshi]]), ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'' (four-player cooperative multiplayer), and both ''Super Mario Sunshine'' and ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' (the removal of Mario's peace sign gesture prior to its return in ''[[Super Mario Odyssey]]'').
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==References in other games==
==References in other games==
*A mission in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' is titled "Super Mario 128", where the player must defeat 128 tiny Marios.
*A mission in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' is titled "Super Mario 128", where the player must defeat 128 tiny Marios.
*The idea to have 128 Marios at once in the demo may have inspired the idea of [[Luiginoid]]s in the 3DS game ''[[Mario & Luigi: Dream Team]]'', where the player uses clones of Luigi to navigate through various areas.
*The idea to have 128 Marios at once in the demo may have inspired the idea of [[Luiginoid]]s in the 3DS game ''[[Mario & Luigi: Dream Team]]'', where the player uses clones of Luigi to navigate through various areas.
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This article is about the tech demo. For the event match from Super Smash Bros. Melee, see Super Smash Bros. Melee § Event match.

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“What happened to Super Mario 128? Most of you already played it…”
Shigeru Miyamoto

Super Mario 128 is the name of a series of projects by Nintendo to create a sequel to Super Mario 64, much like the canceled game Super Mario 64 2. While initially named in January 1997,[1] it was first shown as a tech demo at Spaceworld 2000, the project experimented with new technology and ideas to incorporate into later games. A demo of the project was released by Nintendo. The demo featured 128 Marios on screen at once. Other features of the demo included the use of "rapid generation", later used in Pikmin[2], and "sphere walking", later used in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess[citation needed] and Super Mario Galaxy[3]. Super Mario 128 has been confirmed to be unrelated to Super Mario Sunshine.[4]

During his keynote speech at the Game Developers Conference 2007, Shigeru Miyamoto revealed what eventually happened to Super Mario 128. "What happened to Mario 128?" said Miyamoto at the end of his keynote, "most of you already played it..." The screen then transitioned from Mario 128 to Pikmin.

Secretive true sequel to Super Mario 64

Aside from the tech demo shown off, another Super Mario 128 was secretly in development, with Shigeru Miyamoto being the director. This would have been the final game that he directed, had it been completed. He stated that the reason why he wanted to make a sequel, which would have taken at least one and a half years according to an interview at the 1996 Electronic Entertainment Expo, was because Super Mario 64 used only 60% of the capacity of the Nintendo 64.

The game was originally planned to release on the Nintendo 64DD peripheral for the system, but was shifted to the GameCube following the development being delayed after the release of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, which had been delayed to a 1998 release, as well as the 64DD's discontinuation due to its commercial failure. The game would have featured a potential co-op single-player mode featuring Mario and Luigi, as well as four-player split-screen multiplayer akin to Mario Kart 64 with rumors stating that Peach and Toad were meant to be playable in multiplayer, something that would not happen until Super Mario 3D World in 2013, as well as rumors from the European magazine, Nintendo Official Magazine (rebranded as Official Nintendo Magazine in later years), that stated that Yoshi would have been rideable.

In 1999, Miyamoto began to express disapproval over the Mario series becoming too child-friendly, believing that players would grow out of those kinds of games when they reached middle school. He wanted to stop Mario from using his peace sign gesture and have him stop smiling and laughing for no good reason, due to those qualities factoring in what he felt was not right. He also wanted the game to have more mature graphics and a more grown-up version of the title character, even going so far as having an interview in an issue of the Japanese magazine, Playboy Weekly, promising that the game would have a fresh new experience.

Fans expected the game to appear at E3's showings in 2003 and 2004, but the game was not shown at all due to Miyamoto wanting to keep the new ideas for the game from being copied by other companies, even saying at E3 2005 that the game may not be released on GameCube after all. At the Game Developers Conference 2007, where he revealed that the tech demo shown off at Space World 2000 became Pikmin in terms of gameplay, he said that it also became Super Mario Galaxy in terms of stage design. Reporters stopped asking him about the game, and he was happy to never talk about it since.

This interpretation of Super Mario 128 seemed to influence other games like Super Mario 64 DS (Luigi's playability), The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask and Pikmin 2 (single-player cooperative gameplay), Super Mario Sunshine (the ability to ride Yoshi), Super Mario 3D World (four-player cooperative multiplayer), and both Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy (the removal of Mario's peace sign gesture prior to its return in Super Mario Odyssey).

References in other games

  • A mission in Super Smash Bros. Melee is titled "Super Mario 128", where the player must defeat 128 tiny Marios.
  • The idea to have 128 Marios at once in the demo may have inspired the idea of Luiginoids in the 3DS game Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, where the player uses clones of Luigi to navigate through various areas.

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References

  1. ^ Nintendo Power (January 1997). "Miyamoto Interviews". Miyamoto Shrine. Retrieved September 19, 2018.
  2. ^ Martin, Matt (March 9, 2007). "GDC: Shigeru Miyamoto's Keynote Speech". GamesIndustry.biz. Retrieved September 19, 2018.
  3. ^ IGN (August 21, 2006). "Miyamoto Opens the Vault". IGN. Retrieved September 19, 2018.
  4. ^ Davies, Paul (May 16, 2003). "E3 2003: Miyamoto: the interview". Computer and Video Games. Retrieved September 19, 2018.

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