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::On the contrary, we do list [[Shrooblet]]s as "comparable" in the Goomba's infobox despite clearly being the Shroob versions of Goombas. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 08:11, October 12, 2021 (EDT) | ::On the contrary, we do list [[Shrooblet]]s as "comparable" in the Goomba's infobox despite clearly being the Shroob versions of Goombas. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 08:11, October 12, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:::That is my point. Since Shrooblets are the Shroob versions of Goombas, and Beanies are the Beanish versions of Goombas, how come Shrooblets are comparable and Beanies are variants? I know that [[Troopea]]s are variants of [[Koopa Troopa]]s, but this makes sense because the Bros. fight them as if they were normal Koopa Troopas, which don’t appear in the game. On the other hand, Goombas are weaker than Beanies and both appear in the game. The stats of the Goomba is: hp: 4 attack: 1 defense: 19 speed: 4. The stats of the Beanie is: hp: 6 attack: 18 defense: 20 speed: 18. As you can see, Goombas are weaker than Beanies by quite a lot | :::That is my point. Since Shrooblets are the Shroob versions of Goombas, and Beanies are the Beanish versions of Goombas, how come Shrooblets are comparable and Beanies are variants? I know that [[Troopea]]s are variants of [[Koopa Troopa]]s, but this makes sense because the Bros. fight them as if they were normal Koopa Troopas, which don’t appear in the game. On the other hand, Goombas are weaker than Beanies and both appear in the game. The stats of the Goomba is: hp: 4 attack: 1 defense: 19 speed: 4. The stats of the Beanie is: hp: 6 attack: 18 defense: 20 speed: 18. As you can see, Goombas are weaker than Beanies by quite a lot. | ||
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Category?
Would it be overkill to make Category:Beanies? Niiue (talk) 03:15, 13 August 2017 (EDT)
- Given that there's only like three, then yes, yes it would. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:48, 13 August 2017 (CT)
- Five actually. Niiue (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2017 (EDT)
- Per this: not really necessary if they're all already listed on the Beanie page.
Mario JC 03:58, 13 August 2017 (EDT)
- They could probably fit in Category:Beanish maybe? Or is that mainly for the more humanoid characters?
12:48, 13 August 2017 (EDT)
- The Beanish category is vaguely defined, considering it also includes Beanlets, which are explicitly shown to be pets of the Beanish, and at one point included every enemy that was equivalent to another enemy from the main series (Lakipea, for example, was including since it was the "Beanish" equivalent of a Lakitu). It could do with a good once-over. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 13:00, 13 August 2017 (EDT)
- They could probably fit in Category:Beanish maybe? Or is that mainly for the more humanoid characters?
- Per this: not really necessary if they're all already listed on the Beanie page.
- Five actually. Niiue (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2017 (EDT)
Identifier
This didn't have an identifier before. This is an enemy that has appeared in three fairly-popular games. The other Beanie is a projectile that one boss rarely shoots (seemingly preferring to use vines, iirc) from a largely-unpopular game. Logic dictates that this could easily take priority....but either way, the identifier's bad, it should be "Mario & Luigi series" since they appeared in Dream Team during one of Gold Beanie's attacks. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:42, 20 June 2018 (EDT)
- I've actually played Yoshi's New Island and I completely forgot about the Beanies from that game. I'm for killing the identifier altogether.
02:30, 30 August 2018 (EDT)
- As told here, those from Yoshi's New Island don't have a source of the Beanie name (hence Snifberg isn't called after the enemy either). --
FanOfYoshi at 10:59, 30 September 2018 (EDT)
- I would support removing the identifier from this page, as these Beanies are recurring enemies, rather than projectiles. The current identifier is definitely incorrect due to their appearance in Dream Team. --
TheFlameChomp (talk) 11:03, 30 September 2018 (EDT)
- I would support removing the identifier from this page, as these Beanies are recurring enemies, rather than projectiles. The current identifier is definitely incorrect due to their appearance in Dream Team. --
- As told here, those from Yoshi's New Island don't have a source of the Beanie name (hence Snifberg isn't called after the enemy either). --
—-OhoJeeOnFire (talk) 12:03, October 9, 2021 (EDT)
- This was already resolved two years ago.
Nightwicked Bowser
12:22, October 9, 2021 (EDT)
- Oops… Sorry. My mistake. —-OhoJeeOnFire (talk) 12:48, October 9, 2021 (EDT)
- This was already resolved two years ago.
Derived from Goombas?
On the page, it says Beanies are a derived species of Goomba. I thought they were just the BeanBean Kingdom's equivalent of Goombas. Should I change Goombas to a related species? Kan Kan Mikan~ (talk) 19:16, May 29, 2019 (EDT)
- They seem somewhat along the lines of Lakipea, Sharpea, Troopea, and other bean versions of normal enemies. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:43, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
- The way the species relations parameters work on here is sort of vague. They seem to at least be conceptually derived from them, but they aren't a variant of them. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:12, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
- I see. Well, thanks for your time. :D Kan Kan Mikan~ (talk) 05:42, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
- More than two years have passed and Beanies are STILL variants of Goombas. Why hasn’t anyone changed it?
- I see. Well, thanks for your time. :D Kan Kan Mikan~ (talk) 05:42, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
- The way the species relations parameters work on here is sort of vague. They seem to at least be conceptually derived from them, but they aren't a variant of them. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:12, May 30, 2019 (EDT)
—-OhoJeeOnFire (talk) 17:32, October 11, 2021 (EDT)
Confusion
I can’t understand why beanies are variants of Goombas. Is there any reason why they are variants? I personally would say that you can compare beanies to Goombas.
—-OhoJeeOnFire (talk) 19:09, October 8, 2021 (EDT)
- They function as the Beanbean equivalent of Goombas, which is supported by the Japanese name. Niiue - Who has lost his tail? 17:42, October 11, 2021 (EDT)
- I know they function like Goombas, but how the variants work is confusing. They could just be comparable because they seem to have a rivalry against each other. Plus, they are only conceptually derived, not variants, as explained in the previous comment more than two years ago.
—-OhoJeeOnFire (talk) 08:07, October 12, 2021 (EDT)
- On the contrary, we do list Shrooblets as "comparable" in the Goomba's infobox despite clearly being the Shroob versions of Goombas.
Nightwicked Bowser
08:11, October 12, 2021 (EDT)
- That is my point. Since Shrooblets are the Shroob versions of Goombas, and Beanies are the Beanish versions of Goombas, how come Shrooblets are comparable and Beanies are variants? I know that Troopeas are variants of Koopa Troopas, but this makes sense because the Bros. fight them as if they were normal Koopa Troopas, which don’t appear in the game. On the other hand, Goombas are weaker than Beanies and both appear in the game. The stats of the Goomba is: hp: 4 attack: 1 defense: 19 speed: 4. The stats of the Beanie is: hp: 6 attack: 18 defense: 20 speed: 18. As you can see, Goombas are weaker than Beanies by quite a lot.
- On the contrary, we do list Shrooblets as "comparable" in the Goomba's infobox despite clearly being the Shroob versions of Goombas.
—-OhoJeeOnFire (talk) 08:15, October 12, 2021 (EDT)