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::::She's literally Peach with hair decorations and a different dress. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:40, 30 November 2018 (EST)
::::She's literally Peach with hair decorations and a different dress. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:40, 30 November 2018 (EST)
::I completely agree with you. The Bowsette meme has killed my dog, turned my family away from me, and left me jobless. -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 15:46, 30 November 2018 (EST)
::I completely agree with you. The Bowsette meme has killed my dog, turned my family away from me, and left me jobless. -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 15:46, 30 November 2018 (EST)
== Echo Fighters and clones.  ==
Look, can you please stop reverting and adding your own biased information about echoes please? You have been proven wrong many, many times by official sources AND data mining the game.
Firstly, Dr Mario is NOT in any means a full clone in Smash Ultimate. Why? He might share quite a bit of stuff with Mario, but unlike the echoes, his stats have actually changed drastically. This includes walk/run speed, air speed, gravity, air acceleration, and even initial dash (yes I actually went to check this). Plus, not a single move is 1:1 with Mario's and many have altered functionality. Not to mention that characters like Pichu and Young Link were literally built from the ground up, literally everything about them is different, even item tossing strength.
Echoes are all over 90% identical to their original characters in every way. Lucina, for example, shares absolutely all functionality and stats with Marth. The only difference is her sword damage output, which is averaged against Marth's. Same thing with Chrom vs Roy, except for the Up B and Final Smash. Not to mention that Ken, although he might seem different on the surface, shares absolutely almost every stat and attack with Ryu. I have the character attribute data.
Why is this? Because echoes, were designed to be full on clones, because of balancing reasons. Lucina got no changes to differentiate her further from Marth. Same with Dark Pit (except his arrows were tweaked to not be straight up inferior). Sakurai even said this in Smash 4, and since echoes still share patch changes, it's highly likely this carried over to Ultimate. [https://sourcegaming.info/2018/08/22/more-information-about-the-smash-direct-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-561/ Even in an interview Sakurai rather talked about making the artwork of a character as a hard point and not the actual balance.] It's also why Daisy, Richter and Dark Samus have aesthetic changes and no actual meaningful differences. --[[User:Memoryman3|Memoryman3]] ([[User talk:Memoryman3|talk]]) 07:48, 23 February 2019 (EST)

Revision as of 07:48, February 23, 2019

Consecutive edits

Hi, if you feel the need to make numerous consecutive edits on pages (like with the kart pages you've been working on), it may be wise to use the "show preview" button so as to not clog up our page histories. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 04:10, 6 April 2018 (EDT)

Super Crown edit

Technically that meme started long before it was revealed that other characters could collect it simply for ten coins. That being revealed is what basically killed it. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:49, 9 November 2018 (EST)

Unfortunately though, I have noticed that there are still people (particularly on the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate board on GameFAQs, and on select communities across Reddit, Twitch, YouTube and other places) that are sexually aroused by this terrible abomination of an Internet meme, and continue to enjoy that trash. Also, the "meme's" absurd rise in popularity on Twitter, DeviantART, Pixiv and other places gave it enough notability in the media to warrant a heckin' Wikipedia article, and potentially a spot in the upcoming YouTube Rewind 2018, which I expect to be even worse than YouTube Rewind 2017 already was. Zakawer2 (talk) 08:06, 14 November 2018 (EST)
Late reply, but anyways, you certainly don't have to like it, but you also don't have to be a jerk about it. There is nothing wrong with finding Peach attractive, she's kinda designed to be pretty. Besides, just as I predicted, that "Bowsette" silliness is now essentially a dead meme, and has been since before you made that comment. Anyways, don't bellyache that some people are sexually attracted to certain things. Unless said things involve actual harm being caused to people, they are, by definition, harmless, and as such should be ignored if one harbors negative feelings about them. Complaining just draws more attention to them anyways. (Additionally, I'll point out that the original "Bowsette" thing was not intended as sexual material but a simple joke, and it has been used for many more wholesome purposes as well.) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:12, 30 November 2018 (EST)
Even then, I do find Peach, Daisy, Rosalina and Pauline to be attractive, but not "Bowsette" or any of the other fake Super Crown things like "Booette." Heck, even Bowser of all people is more attractive than "Bowsette," and that says a lot! Zakawer2 (talk) 16:32, 30 November 2018 (EST)
She's literally Peach with hair decorations and a different dress. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:40, 30 November 2018 (EST)
I completely agree with you. The Bowsette meme has killed my dog, turned my family away from me, and left me jobless. -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:46, 30 November 2018 (EST)

Echo Fighters and clones.

Look, can you please stop reverting and adding your own biased information about echoes please? You have been proven wrong many, many times by official sources AND data mining the game.

Firstly, Dr Mario is NOT in any means a full clone in Smash Ultimate. Why? He might share quite a bit of stuff with Mario, but unlike the echoes, his stats have actually changed drastically. This includes walk/run speed, air speed, gravity, air acceleration, and even initial dash (yes I actually went to check this). Plus, not a single move is 1:1 with Mario's and many have altered functionality. Not to mention that characters like Pichu and Young Link were literally built from the ground up, literally everything about them is different, even item tossing strength.

Echoes are all over 90% identical to their original characters in every way. Lucina, for example, shares absolutely all functionality and stats with Marth. The only difference is her sword damage output, which is averaged against Marth's. Same thing with Chrom vs Roy, except for the Up B and Final Smash. Not to mention that Ken, although he might seem different on the surface, shares absolutely almost every stat and attack with Ryu. I have the character attribute data.

Why is this? Because echoes, were designed to be full on clones, because of balancing reasons. Lucina got no changes to differentiate her further from Marth. Same with Dark Pit (except his arrows were tweaked to not be straight up inferior). Sakurai even said this in Smash 4, and since echoes still share patch changes, it's highly likely this carried over to Ultimate. Even in an interview Sakurai rather talked about making the artwork of a character as a hard point and not the actual balance. It's also why Daisy, Richter and Dark Samus have aesthetic changes and no actual meaningful differences. --Memoryman3 (talk) 07:48, 23 February 2019 (EST)