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::By the same token though, several other enemies are listed as being derived or related due to the same situation. Admittedly, with most of these, the physical resemblance is greater; however, our definition of "derived" includes "based upon conceptually," which these doubtlessly are. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:31, 12 November 2018 (EST) | ::By the same token though, several other enemies are listed as being derived or related due to the same situation. Admittedly, with most of these, the physical resemblance is greater; however, our definition of "derived" includes "based upon conceptually," which these doubtlessly are. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:31, 12 November 2018 (EST) | ||
:::But surely it should at least be based on the finished product. If we start basing things on filenames we might as well list [[Stretch Plant]]s as a type of mushroom, for example. It's true that these things are fought in a similar way to Bullies, but with that in mind it's even possible the filename is just a coincidence - that name is derived from the way you fight them so maybe they were going to call it that before remembering they already had a "Donketu" enemy? Now don't get me wrong, I definitely think we should keep the trivia note, just saying we might need a little more to go on before actually calling them a related species. [[User:SuperDragonRosalina|SuperDragonRosalina]] ([[User talk:SuperDragonRosalina|talk]]) 16:42, 12 November 2018 (EST) | :::But surely it should at least be based on the finished product. If we start basing things on filenames we might as well list [[Stretch Plant]]s as a type of mushroom, for example. It's true that these things are fought in a similar way to Bullies, but with that in mind it's even possible the filename is just a coincidence - that name is derived from the way you fight them so maybe they were going to call it that before remembering they already had a "Donketu" enemy? Now don't get me wrong, I definitely think we should keep the trivia note, just saying we might need a little more to go on before actually calling them a related species. [[User:SuperDragonRosalina|SuperDragonRosalina]] ([[User talk:SuperDragonRosalina|talk]]) 16:42, 12 November 2018 (EST) | ||
::::They reused the coding for a ''lot'' of things in this game from 64DS. The most likely thing is that they used the Bully file as a template. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:48, 12 November 2018 (EST) | |||
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Hmmm weird, I am at World 8 in New Super Mario Bros. and I don't remember facing these guys. Koopa K (talk)
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Should these really be listed as a related species to Bullies just because of the internal filename? Neither of its actual names suggest a relation, nor does its appearance. Seems to me like they were simply planning to have a Bully appear before replacing it with an original creature instead, kind of like how Yoshi was originally a type of Koopa - it doesn't mean the actual species are related. SuperDragonRosalina (talk) 07:58, 11 November 2018 (EST)
- I think how it is, just a fun trivia point that it shares its name with Bully suggesting some pre-development ideas that were altered before release, is fine. What's released is released, and I see no reason to rope comparisons based on scrapped ideas.
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:07, 11 November 2018 (EST)
- By the same token though, several other enemies are listed as being derived or related due to the same situation. Admittedly, with most of these, the physical resemblance is greater; however, our definition of "derived" includes "based upon conceptually," which these doubtlessly are. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:31, 12 November 2018 (EST)
- But surely it should at least be based on the finished product. If we start basing things on filenames we might as well list Stretch Plants as a type of mushroom, for example. It's true that these things are fought in a similar way to Bullies, but with that in mind it's even possible the filename is just a coincidence - that name is derived from the way you fight them so maybe they were going to call it that before remembering they already had a "Donketu" enemy? Now don't get me wrong, I definitely think we should keep the trivia note, just saying we might need a little more to go on before actually calling them a related species. SuperDragonRosalina (talk) 16:42, 12 November 2018 (EST)
- They reused the coding for a lot of things in this game from 64DS. The most likely thing is that they used the Bully file as a template. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:48, 12 November 2018 (EST)
- But surely it should at least be based on the finished product. If we start basing things on filenames we might as well list Stretch Plants as a type of mushroom, for example. It's true that these things are fought in a similar way to Bullies, but with that in mind it's even possible the filename is just a coincidence - that name is derived from the way you fight them so maybe they were going to call it that before remembering they already had a "Donketu" enemy? Now don't get me wrong, I definitely think we should keep the trivia note, just saying we might need a little more to go on before actually calling them a related species. SuperDragonRosalina (talk) 16:42, 12 November 2018 (EST)
- By the same token though, several other enemies are listed as being derived or related due to the same situation. Admittedly, with most of these, the physical resemblance is greater; however, our definition of "derived" includes "based upon conceptually," which these doubtlessly are. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:31, 12 November 2018 (EST)
