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Now we all know that Prima is pretty good. But in a few places across this wiki I've seen some of you saying something like, "The Prima guide states this name, so that's official." But I want to say that Prima gets quite a few things wrong, like: The Mario Kart Wii guide says in several places that you can actually place Shells on the track so that they are stationary. If you just play the game a little bit you can find that this isn't true. The Super Mario Galaxy 2 guide doesn't even mention [[Amps]], and calls the [[Scuttlebug]]s "Spoings" and "Spanglers", and the Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story guide doesn't say anything about [[Bowser X]]. Just saying. [[File:DarkBowserBIS.png|35px]][[User:DarkBowser777|<span style="font-family:serif;color:darkblue">DarkBowser777</span>]]([[User talk:DarkBowser777|talk]])[[File:Dreamy Bowser idle.png|35px]] 21:22, 2 March 2017 (EST) | Now we all know that Prima is pretty good. But in a few places across this wiki I've seen some of you saying something like, "The Prima guide states this name, so that's official." But I want to say that Prima gets quite a few things wrong, like: The Mario Kart Wii guide says in several places that you can actually place Shells on the track so that they are stationary. If you just play the game a little bit you can find that this isn't true. The Super Mario Galaxy 2 guide doesn't even mention [[Amps]], and calls the [[Scuttlebug]]s "Spoings" and "Spanglers", and the Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story guide doesn't say anything about [[Bowser X]]. Just saying. [[File:DarkBowserBIS.png|35px]][[User:DarkBowser777|<span style="font-family:serif;color:darkblue">DarkBowser777</span>]]([[User talk:DarkBowser777|talk]])[[File:Dreamy Bowser idle.png|35px]] 21:22, 2 March 2017 (EST) | ||
:Prima guides are filled with errors, but they're licensed material. Prima can be wrong about the game mechanics of Mario Kart Wii but it can't be "wrong" about the names of [[Sir Domino]] or [[Heavy Para-Beetle]] when no other material give name for those things. Hence why it's usable (and mostly used) for sourcing names. <br> <br> That's my take on it at least. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 22:20, 2 March 2017 (EST) | :Prima guides are filled with errors, but they're licensed material. Prima can be wrong about the game mechanics of Mario Kart Wii but it can't be "wrong" about the names of [[Sir Domino]] or [[Heavy Para-Beetle]] when no other material give name for those things. Hence why it's usable (and mostly used) for sourcing names. <br> <br> That's my take on it at least. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 22:20, 2 March 2017 (EST) | ||
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::While the Prima guides are official as of 2007, the games themselves should be the main source of information. If Prima says you can place stationary shells on the tracks, but the game doesn't allow that, the game mechanics take precedence and the Prima info is chalked down to trivia. | ::While the Prima guides are official as of 2007, the games themselves should be the main source of information. If Prima says you can place stationary shells on the tracks, but the game doesn't allow that, the game mechanics take precedence and the Prima info is chalked down to trivia. | ||
::In terms of names, yeah, like Glowsquid said, if Prima's the only source, then we go with that. However, any Nintendo Power guides that say otherwise, we go with those instead. It's all in [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable sources for naming]]. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:55, 2 March 2017 (EST) | ::In terms of names, yeah, like Glowsquid said, if Prima's the only source, then we go with that. However, any Nintendo Power guides that say otherwise, we go with those instead. It's all in [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable sources for naming]]. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:55, 2 March 2017 (EST) | ||
:::I question its credibility being considered as a reliable source for [[MarioWiki:Naming]] in general. I have the most disdain for trusting it with [[King Bill (New Super Mario Bros. Wii)]] and its on-going proposal. The look of it looks like a [[Banzai Bill]] but has the abilities of a [[Bull's-Eye Bill]]. It doesn't even look like a [[King Bill]]. This case in particular makes me question Prima Games as a reliable source of information. However, for this discussion revival, I want to see how many inconsistencies can be spotted be logged here so that way we can discuss further if we should drop Prima as a reliable source for naming. Right now, its valid, but we need to gather evidence right now before we can decide if Prima should still be valid. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 17:57, 23 August 2017 (EDT) |
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Who owns the NSMB2 one? --Hiccup (talk) 15:36, 21 September 2014 (EDT)
Is Prima really all it's glory?
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Now we all know that Prima is pretty good. But in a few places across this wiki I've seen some of you saying something like, "The Prima guide states this name, so that's official." But I want to say that Prima gets quite a few things wrong, like: The Mario Kart Wii guide says in several places that you can actually place Shells on the track so that they are stationary. If you just play the game a little bit you can find that this isn't true. The Super Mario Galaxy 2 guide doesn't even mention Amps, and calls the Scuttlebugs "Spoings" and "Spanglers", and the Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story guide doesn't say anything about Bowser X. Just saying. DarkBowser777(talk) 21:22, 2 March 2017 (EST)
- Prima guides are filled with errors, but they're licensed material. Prima can be wrong about the game mechanics of Mario Kart Wii but it can't be "wrong" about the names of Sir Domino or Heavy Para-Beetle when no other material give name for those things. Hence why it's usable (and mostly used) for sourcing names.
That's my take on it at least. --Glowsquid (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2017 (EST)- I remember the MKWii guide saying Daisy is Peach's cousin or something as well...
- While the Prima guides are official as of 2007, the games themselves should be the main source of information. If Prima says you can place stationary shells on the tracks, but the game doesn't allow that, the game mechanics take precedence and the Prima info is chalked down to trivia.
- In terms of names, yeah, like Glowsquid said, if Prima's the only source, then we go with that. However, any Nintendo Power guides that say otherwise, we go with those instead. It's all in MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable sources for naming. 22:55, 2 March 2017 (EST)
- I question its credibility being considered as a reliable source for MarioWiki:Naming in general. I have the most disdain for trusting it with King Bill (New Super Mario Bros. Wii) and its on-going proposal. The look of it looks like a Banzai Bill but has the abilities of a Bull's-Eye Bill. It doesn't even look like a King Bill. This case in particular makes me question Prima Games as a reliable source of information. However, for this discussion revival, I want to see how many inconsistencies can be spotted be logged here so that way we can discuss further if we should drop Prima as a reliable source for naming. Right now, its valid, but we need to gather evidence right now before we can decide if Prima should still be valid. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 17:57, 23 August 2017 (EDT)