Talk:Dragoneel (purple)

Separate enemy?

So do we have any official proof that this "Baby Dragoneel" is a Dragoneel subenemy? What does the Prima Guide say? Or how about the Japanese guide which was used as proof to make the Gūrindai article? SmokedChili (Talk) (Thoughts) 11:51, 21 July 2015 (EDT)

They're smaller than regular Dragoneels, so even if we don't find a name, they're clearly a separate entity, as demonstrated by all the other enemies that have articles based on being larger or smaller than their counterparts. In any case, this is the only mention of the little Dragoneels in the Prima guide (remember that there are only two of them, and they appear together): "Duck into a red Warp Pipe G to visit this Coin-fi lled cavern, where the final Star Coin is kept. Beware the twin Dragoneels that guard this place—they’re slower than the one that chases you through the main stage, but there are two of them! Lure the Dragoneel twins to one side of the cavern, then quickly swim to the other side and make your escape." You could almost make the argument that it treats them like characters and not a species... Hello, I'm Time Turner.

It's "clearly" a separate entity because there are other sized enemies that have their own articles? Most of those at least are justified by being officially acknowledged as such. "Baby Dragoneels" don't have that, and aren't even really treated as separate enemies in Prima guide, if they're not mentioned in the enemy section (assuming that guide has one). They may be unique one-timers, but if that's all they have, then I don't see much of a reason for the separate article. SmokedChili (Talk) (Thoughts) 07:36, 22 July 2015 (EDT)

Prima is known to have a have oversights when it comes to enemy types, though. I think we can at least use that quote to change it to "Twin Dragoneel" with a "Dragoneel Twin" redirect. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:57, 22 July 2015 (EDT)

How much of an oversight this is on Prima's part would still depend on other official guides and sources, though. SmokedChili (Talk) (Thoughts) 06:11, 26 July 2015 (EDT)

Move Baby Dragoneel to Twin Dragoneel

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To now, the enemy is called Baby Dragoneel, a conjectural name, but according to New Super Mario Bros. U’s prima guide, they are called Twin Dragoneel which would make sense, since they attack together and there are only two of them appearing in the full game. Moreover, they do not appear in New Super Luigi U (the page say so, I do not think I have seen in this game). I believe in this case that these are good reasons to change the name for a more official one.

Proposer: LudwigVon (talk)
Deadline: February 1, 2016, 23:59 GMT

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1. LudwigVon (talk) Per proposal and above.

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1. Time Turner (talk) They're not called "Twin Dragoneels", they're called "twin Dragoneels". This is an important distinction, since the former indicates that it's a name, while the latter indicates that the word "twin" is merely being used to describe the Dragoneels that appear in the level. I'm generally not a fan of cobbling random bits of text into a name, especially when it's only been used once in the entire body and it's right next another descriptive title: "Dragoneel twins". Neither name is ideal, and I still prefer the current name as it appropriately describes the subject. If it was absolutely the name, I'd go along with it, but the circumstances are far too vague and the name is used too infrequentely for my tastes.