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'''User:Another gossip-loving Toad''' is a ''Mario'' fan from China. His favorite game is ''[[Paper Mario]]'', especially because conversations in the game show a variety of the English language. He also likes speedruns, including TASes.
'''User:Another gossip-loving Toad''' is a ''Mario'' fan from China. His favorite game is ''[[Paper Mario]]'', especially because conversations in the game show a variety of the English language. He also likes speedruns, including TASes.


== On Mario's name in Simplified Chinese ==
== On Mario's name in Chinese ==


{{main|User:Another gossip-loving Toad/List of unofficial translations in Chinese I've seen}}
{{main|User:Another gossip-loving Toad/List of unofficial translations in Chinese I've seen}}
:''This section is about the situation in Mainland China. Things in TW, HK and Macau are different.


Things are different in China. Most Chinese people had only played one ''Mario'' game, ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]''; they thought the character [[Mario]] was created just to participate in ''Super Mario Bros.'', so they called him "super Mary", because "Mario" wasn't a common name. A few people in China who had played more ''Mario'' games began to call him "Mario", recognizing him as a character independent from any particular game.
Most Chinese people didn't think [[Mario]] deserved a name because they didn't know any other ''Mario'' games other than ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'' Because ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'' was commonly called "Super Mary", they call him "超级玛丽" (''chāojí Mǎlì''), which means "super Mary".


There was conflict, however, because most ''Mario'' fans liked the term "Mǎli'ào" while Nintendo stuck to calling him "Mǎlì'ōu". Now there is still disagreement. Someone has even posted comics satirizing Nintendo's stubbornness: [http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=3ds&flux=1&tid=2099385082&pic_id=4af33d6d55fbb2fb863d32db4f4a20a44723dc86&pn=1&fp=2&see_lz=1] [http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2100557169]
A few people in China who began to know the whole Marioverse began to call him "Mario", recognizing him as a character independent from any particular game. However, there are more than one transliteration of "Mario". Most fans prefer "马里奥" (''Mǎli'ào''), and this one is used over the Internet, from Wikipedia to forums, and even in fan-made games.


In short, the answer is:
However, Nintendo in China, iQue, insists the awkward, weird translation "马力欧" (''Mǎlì'ōu'') that most Chinese fans dislike. I've seen this name only in Nintendo or iQue's website.
* "超级玛丽" (''chāojí Mǎlì'') by ordinary people
 
* "马里奥" (''Mǎli'ào'') by most Mario fans
Here are some fan-made comics that say they prefer the translation "''Mǎli'ào''" and satirize iQue's stubbornness: [http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=3ds&flux=1&tid=2099385082&pic_id=4af33d6d55fbb2fb863d32db4f4a20a44723dc86&pn=1&fp=2&see_lz=1] [http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2100557169] (in Chinese)
* "马力欧" (''Mǎlì'ōu'') by Nintendo


== Some conversation from ''Paper Mario''==
== Some conversation from ''Paper Mario''==
<blockquote>''Oh, we're hurting, Mario! The Star Beam doesn't work!'' <br>- '''Goombario
I heard that developers of ''[[Paper Mario]]'' hired linguists to add accents to the conversations in the game. Here are the [[partner]]s' responses when they find [[Bowser]] becomes more [[Star Rod|invincible]]:
 
<blockquote>''Oh, we're hurting, Mario! The Star Beam doesn't work!'' - '''Goombario


''Oh no, Mario! The Star Beam isn't working!'' <br>- '''Kooper
''Oh no, Mario! The Star Beam isn't working!'' - '''Kooper


''What's the matter? Why won't the Star Beam work?'' <br>- '''Bombette
''What's the matter? Why won't the Star Beam work?'' - '''Bombette


''Uh-oh, this is a problem! The Star Beam's ineffective!'' <br>- '''Parakarry
''Uh-oh, this is a problem! The Star Beam's ineffective!'' - '''Parakarry


''Well, don't just stand there staring at the sky, Mario! The Star Beam doesn't work! Think of something!'' <br>- '''Bow
''Well, don't just stand there staring at the sky, Mario! The Star Beam doesn't work! Think of something!'' - '''Bow


''Oh no!! We're in trouble! The Star Beam doesn't work? Oh, that bad monster is gonna beat us up now for sure...'' <br>- '''Watt
''Oh no!! We're in trouble! The Star Beam doesn't work? Oh, that bad monster is gonna beat us up now for sure...'' - '''Watt


''Oh, this is no good! The Star Beam doesn't work! What'll we do, Mario!?'' <br>- '''Sushie
''Oh, this is no good! The Star Beam doesn't work! What'll we do, Mario!?'' - '''Sushie


''Oh man, just what we need!! The Star Beam's broken! What're we gonna do, man?'' <br>- '''Lakilester
''Oh man, just what we need!! The Star Beam's broken! What're we gonna do, man?'' - '''Lakilester
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User:Another gossip-loving Toad is a Mario fan from China. His favorite game is Paper Mario, especially because conversations in the game show a variety of the English language. He also likes speedruns, including TASes.

On Mario's name in Chinese

Main article: User:Another gossip-loving Toad/List of unofficial translations in Chinese I've seen
This section is about the situation in Mainland China. Things in TW, HK and Macau are different.

Most Chinese people didn't think Mario deserved a name because they didn't know any other Mario games other than Super Mario Bros. Because Super Mario Bros. was commonly called "Super Mary", they call him "超级玛丽" (chāojí Mǎlì), which means "super Mary".

A few people in China who began to know the whole Marioverse began to call him "Mario", recognizing him as a character independent from any particular game. However, there are more than one transliteration of "Mario". Most fans prefer "马里奥" (Mǎli'ào), and this one is used over the Internet, from Wikipedia to forums, and even in fan-made games.

However, Nintendo in China, iQue, insists the awkward, weird translation "马力欧" (Mǎlì'ōu) that most Chinese fans dislike. I've seen this name only in Nintendo or iQue's website.

Here are some fan-made comics that say they prefer the translation "Mǎli'ào" and satirize iQue's stubbornness: [1] [2] (in Chinese)

Some conversation from Paper Mario

I heard that developers of Paper Mario hired linguists to add accents to the conversations in the game. Here are the partners' responses when they find Bowser becomes more invincible:

Oh, we're hurting, Mario! The Star Beam doesn't work! - Goombario

Oh no, Mario! The Star Beam isn't working! - Kooper

What's the matter? Why won't the Star Beam work? - Bombette

Uh-oh, this is a problem! The Star Beam's ineffective! - Parakarry

Well, don't just stand there staring at the sky, Mario! The Star Beam doesn't work! Think of something! - Bow

Oh no!! We're in trouble! The Star Beam doesn't work? Oh, that bad monster is gonna beat us up now for sure... - Watt

Oh, this is no good! The Star Beam doesn't work! What'll we do, Mario!? - Sushie

Oh man, just what we need!! The Star Beam's broken! What're we gonna do, man? - Lakilester