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===Add navigation boxes for games articles and their subpages=== | |||
<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DON'T ADD NAVIGATION BOXES 4-13</span> | |||
I propose we make boxes to navigate through games page/subpages, like this example that might be used in the ''[[Mario Kart Wii]]'' article:<br> | |||
<div style="{{radius|20px}}; text-align: center; background:#f0f0f0; margin: .5em 2%; padding: 0 1em; border: 1px solid lightgray; color:black"> | |||
[[Mario Kart Wii|Game]] • [[Gallery:Mario Kart Wii|Gallery]] • [[List of Mario Kart Wii beta elements|Beta Elements]] • [[List of glitches in Mario Kart Wii|Glitches]] • [[List of Mario Kart Wii staff|Staff]] • [[List of media from Mario Kart Wii|Media]] | |||
</div> | |||
These boxes can be placed on top of the pages to make navigation simpler than looking for sections inside the articles (even because in some pages they are spread in a confusing way). With this, we can erase incomplete or empty sections with "''Main Article: List of ''[such game]'' beta elements''" or "''Main Article: List of glitches in ''[such game]" and things like this being all the text in them (like [[Donkey Kong Land 3#Glitches|this]] and [[Mario Kart DS#Gallery|this]]). | |||
As I said with the comment below, the box can sum every of these sections (gallery, beta elements, glitches, media, staff and quotes) in one line, so we won't need the sections just to mention the subpages exist. ''See this '''[[User:Ultra Koopa/Mario Kart Wii|example]]'''''. | |||
'''Proposer''': {{User|Ultra Koopa}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': June 29, 2013, 23:59 GMT | |||
====Support==== | |||
#{{User|Ultra Koopa}} My proposal, so I support it. | |||
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Awesome idea, per proposal. | |||
#{{User|MegaKoopa}} Not just because it's the easiest way to find the subpages (as we have the content table with the use of sections), but also because all those sections can be summed up in one line. | |||
#{{User|BoygeyMario}} I find it very convenient. | |||
====Oppose==== | |||
#{{User|Time Turner}} We already have a big list of sections for an article, right near the top. Having a template for it really isn't necessary. | |||
#{{User|Aokage}} Per TT. And I think placing that at the top of the pages would look ugly. | |||
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Completely unnecessary. The main article is where the important info is, and the ex-subpages are extra, so why would we advertise them front and center in an ugly box that distracts the readers from the whole reason they came to that main page: to read the article. The TOC will get them down to the sections that link to the ex-subpages, and if it's done right, you should be able to get there using the game's basic category too. | |||
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per TT and Walkazo. | |||
#{{User|Ace Shadow}} Per all. | |||
#{{User|Mariotime11}} Per Time Turner and Walkazo. | |||
#{{User|Tucayo}} - Per all. | |||
#{{User|Gonzales Kart Inc.}} Per all; we don't need more templates like that. | |||
#{{User|S78}} Per all, these would just take up extra space. | |||
#{{User|Superluigirules}} Per all. | |||
#{{User|Megadardery}}- I just can't say another word, Walkazo said it. other than that, I think a small entry is better than only a link. | |||
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per Walkazo. | |||
#{{User|Pinkie Pie}} Per Time Turner and Walkazo. | |||
====Comments==== | |||
But, wait, don't we have the Table of Contents for that? {{User|LeftyGreenMario}} | |||
:Table of Contents? Where's this? {{User|Ultra Koopa}} | |||
::There's a big box at the beginning of an article, after the opening paragraph(s), showing the links to all the headers. {{User|LeftyGreenMario}} | |||
:::Oh, these, okay. But even with this, there are lots of sections to choose and still have the bunch of short sections. {{User|Ultra Koopa}} | |||
::::I am not entirely sure what you're saying. {{User|Time Turner}} | |||
:::::The sections like [[Mario Party 8#Beta elements|this one]] are just like redirect pages converted into sections, so they are too short. There are also the ones with examples, like [[New Super Luigi U#Gallery|this one]], but they are kinda useless because there's already the link for those and more images/beta elements/glitches/etc in the section itself. With the box, all of these pages are listed in one single line with no need of sections just to mention they exist. {{User|Ultra Koopa}} | |||
::::::As seen [[MarioWiki:Empty Section Policy|here]], empty redirect sections are not actually allowed, and should be replaced by succinct overviews of the pages in question (and not just random samples of the other page, although it's hard to summarize an image gallery). So that's a moot point. - {{User|Walkazo}} | |||
Ugly? Distracting? In my opinion, it's far better than sections that take unnecessary space. {{User|MegaKoopa}} | |||
:Everyone's entitled to their own opinions. But you're still arguing against an organization standard that is already outdated: once they're updated, those sections won't be wastes of space anymore. - {{User|Walkazo}} | |||
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Revision as of 03:44, June 30, 2013
MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive Template
Add all nozzle locations
DELETED BY PROPOSER
I have noticed something. We explain locations for Blue Coins, & Fruits on Isle Delfino, but no info for where nozzles are located. Even if they're easy to find, I still think this should be explained. Players have the right to know where nozzle boxes are found.
Proposer: BoygeyMario (talk)
Deadline: July 4, 2013, 12:11 GMT
Support
- BoygeyMario (talk) It's my own proposal.
- Tails777 (talk) It's useful information to add. Per proposal.
Oppose
Comments
I don't think that require a proposal.Megadardery (talk)17:06, 27 June 2013 (EDT)
- You sure about that? BoygeyMario (talk)
- Unless there's been an official mandate to not have the locations of nozzles written, this is simply information that we haven't gotten around to including. There's no need for a full-fledged proposal; you're free to insert the info yourself. Time Turner (talk)
- Yeah, adding information does not need a proposal (in most cases), but removing them does! As per rule #14 you could cancel this proposal anytime, and archive it. If you can't, just point here.--Megadardery (talk)
- Unless there's been an official mandate to not have the locations of nozzles written, this is simply information that we haven't gotten around to including. There's no need for a full-fledged proposal; you're free to insert the info yourself. Time Turner (talk)
Add a spoilers template
DELETED BY PROPOSER
I have no idea if this was made before but I did a quick check and did not see it, ahem, to the topic, I think we should add a spoilers template to the wiki because I have seen one page in Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time to check how to solve something (which doesnt really count as story spoilers), but I looked by the story section, and I got completely spoiled on what happened, so what I say is we add a simple spoilers template to warn people of ending story stuff.
Proposer: Robecuba (talk)
Deadline: July 5, 2013, 23:59 GMT
Support
Oppose
Comments
DON'T ADD NAVIGATION BOXES 4-13
I propose we make boxes to navigate through games page/subpages, like this example that might be used in the Mario Kart Wii article:
These boxes can be placed on top of the pages to make navigation simpler than looking for sections inside the articles (even because in some pages they are spread in a confusing way). With this, we can erase incomplete or empty sections with "Main Article: List of [such game] beta elements" or "Main Article: List of glitches in [such game]" and things like this being all the text in them (like this and this).
As I said with the comment below, the box can sum every of these sections (gallery, beta elements, glitches, media, staff and quotes) in one line, so we won't need the sections just to mention the subpages exist. See this example.
Proposer: Ultra Koopa (talk)
Deadline: June 29, 2013, 23:59 GMT
Support
- Ultra Koopa (talk) My proposal, so I support it.
- SuperYoshiBros (talk) Awesome idea, per proposal.
- MegaKoopa (talk) Not just because it's the easiest way to find the subpages (as we have the content table with the use of sections), but also because all those sections can be summed up in one line.
- BoygeyMario (talk) I find it very convenient.
Oppose
- Time Turner (talk) We already have a big list of sections for an article, right near the top. Having a template for it really isn't necessary.
- Aokage (talk) Per TT. And I think placing that at the top of the pages would look ugly.
- Walkazo (talk) - Completely unnecessary. The main article is where the important info is, and the ex-subpages are extra, so why would we advertise them front and center in an ugly box that distracts the readers from the whole reason they came to that main page: to read the article. The TOC will get them down to the sections that link to the ex-subpages, and if it's done right, you should be able to get there using the game's basic category too.
- Yoshi876 (talk) Per TT and Walkazo.
- Ace Shadow (talk) Per all.
- Mariotime11 (talk) Per Time Turner and Walkazo.
- Tucayo (talk) - Per all.
- Gonzales Kart Inc. (talk) Per all; we don't need more templates like that.
- S78 (talk) Per all, these would just take up extra space.
- Superluigirules (talk) Per all.
- Megadardery (talk)- I just can't say another word, Walkazo said it. other than that, I think a small entry is better than only a link.
- Mario4Ever (talk) Per Walkazo.
- Pinkie Pie (talk) Per Time Turner and Walkazo.
Comments
But, wait, don't we have the Table of Contents for that? LeftyGreenMario (talk)
- Table of Contents? Where's this? Ultra Koopa (talk)
- There's a big box at the beginning of an article, after the opening paragraph(s), showing the links to all the headers. LeftyGreenMario (talk)
- Oh, these, okay. But even with this, there are lots of sections to choose and still have the bunch of short sections. Ultra Koopa (talk)
- I am not entirely sure what you're saying. Time Turner (talk)
- The sections like this one are just like redirect pages converted into sections, so they are too short. There are also the ones with examples, like this one, but they are kinda useless because there's already the link for those and more images/beta elements/glitches/etc in the section itself. With the box, all of these pages are listed in one single line with no need of sections just to mention they exist. Ultra Koopa (talk)
- I am not entirely sure what you're saying. Time Turner (talk)
- Oh, these, okay. But even with this, there are lots of sections to choose and still have the bunch of short sections. Ultra Koopa (talk)
- There's a big box at the beginning of an article, after the opening paragraph(s), showing the links to all the headers. LeftyGreenMario (talk)
Ugly? Distracting? In my opinion, it's far better than sections that take unnecessary space. MegaKoopa (talk)
- Everyone's entitled to their own opinions. But you're still arguing against an organization standard that is already outdated: once they're updated, those sections won't be wastes of space anymore. - Walkazo (talk)