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:"Watch" corresponds to the term used in the Shogakukan guide, which identifies Count Down and Ding-A-Ling as components of it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:04, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
:"Watch" corresponds to the term used in the Shogakukan guide, which identifies Count Down and Ding-A-Ling as components of it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:04, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
::<s>The Shogakukan guide claims that the hands are called メビウス (時計の針), but ''in-game'', the same hands are referred to as simply メビウス; this would essentially mean that, if the Shogakukan guide were being translated in English, the guide would've referred to the hands as "Count Down (Watch's Hands)" instead of simply "Count Down".</s> (nvm, the guide also states the name of Ring-a-Ding to be リンリン (時計のベル) instead of リンリン or メビウス (時計のベル)). Furthermore, the remake displays the target of メビウス/Count Down to be the ''base'' of the clock (or the hourglass within), ''not'' the hands on the dial, as can be seen [https://youtu.be/3GS8UaIhMmI?si=CxwRk3DY_QLpr_tT here] and [https://youtu.be/bKamH-ORE08?si=yiXUtpptRQ0L-2Ek here], which further insinuates that the whole thing is called Count Down instead of only its face. {{User:Arend/sig}} 21:16, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
::<s>The Shogakukan guide claims that the hands are called メビウス (時計の針), but ''in-game'', the same hands are referred to as simply メビウス; this would essentially mean that, if the Shogakukan guide were being translated in English, the guide would've referred to the hands as "Count Down (Watch's Hands)" instead of simply "Count Down".</s> (nvm, the guide also states the name of Ring-a-Ding to be リンリン (時計のベル) instead of リンリン or メビウス (時計のベル)). Furthermore, the remake displays the target of メビウス/Count Down to be the ''base'' of the clock (or the hourglass within), ''not'' the hands on the dial, as can be seen [https://youtu.be/3GS8UaIhMmI?si=CxwRk3DY_QLpr_tT here] and [https://youtu.be/bKamH-ORE08?si=yiXUtpptRQ0L-2Ek here], which further insinuates that the whole thing is called Count Down instead of only its face. {{User:Arend/sig}} 21:16, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
:::Eh, I'll add it as an option 'cuz it could be that ArtePiazza saw it differently. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:33, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
:::Eh, I'll add it as an option since it could be that ArtePiazza saw it differently, though I can confirm that the message "The watch is broken!" ({{ruby|時計|とけい}}が こわれた!!) still appears in the remake if Count Down is beaten before Ring-a-Ding. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:33, July 4, 2024 (EDT)

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Merge potential?

Is there viability in merging Count Down and Ring-a-Ding as "Watch (boss)"? Like Smilax and the cake, they're both two parts of the same object, with Count Down being labeled in the Shogakukan guide as the "watch's hand" and Ding-A-Ling its bell/alarm. The term "watch" comes from the game itself, if Count Down is beaten before Ring-a-Ding and it goes haywire with "The watch is broken!" (時計が こわれた!!). LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:41, April 1, 2024 (EDT)

I guess, if the Shogakukan guide says Count Down's the hands, and nothing contradicts that, then sure. Though the fact that got translated as "watch" makes that title less, uh, compelling than if it was, say, "clock", it is what it is. Blinker (talk) 16:17, April 1, 2024 (EDT)

Merge Count Down and Ring-a-Ding as "watch (boss)"

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Current time: Monday, July 8, 2024, 03:46 GMT

See above. These are two parts of the same "watch" boss/object, and so, like cake and Smilax, they ought to occupy the same space.

Proposer: LinkTheLefty (talk)
Deadline: July 18, 2023, 23:59 GMT

Time for a merge!

  1. LinkTheLefty (talk) Count me in.

Time for a merge! (as Count Down instead)

Time to clock out!

Comments

Wouldn't Count Down be the name of the boss as a whole, instead of just the clock's hands? After all, we're not naming Exor something like "Sword (boss)" because only some glowing eyes in the skull-shaped pommel is being referred to as "Exor" in the boss battle. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) 20:54, July 4, 2024 (EDT)

"Watch" corresponds to the term used in the Shogakukan guide, which identifies Count Down and Ding-A-Ling as components of it. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:04, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
The Shogakukan guide claims that the hands are called メビウス (時計の針), but in-game, the same hands are referred to as simply メビウス; this would essentially mean that, if the Shogakukan guide were being translated in English, the guide would've referred to the hands as "Count Down (Watch's Hands)" instead of simply "Count Down". (nvm, the guide also states the name of Ring-a-Ding to be リンリン (時計のベル) instead of リンリン or メビウス (時計のベル)). Furthermore, the remake displays the target of メビウス/Count Down to be the base of the clock (or the hourglass within), not the hands on the dial, as can be seen here and here, which further insinuates that the whole thing is called Count Down instead of only its face. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) 21:16, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
Eh, I'll add it as an option since it could be that ArtePiazza saw it differently, though I can confirm that the message "The watch is broken!" (時計とけいが こわれた!!) still appears in the remake if Count Down is beaten before Ring-a-Ding. LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:33, July 4, 2024 (EDT)