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[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]
[[User:ToadBoy1999|ToadBoy1999]]
:Me. My username is SONIC123CDMANIA2(Try all possible combinations of uppercase & lowercase letters until you get the right one). I usually play a Sonic RPG game(I think it's called Sonic World RPG? I'm not sure. Please tell me if you find what it is. It's the one with 3 Adventure Era, 3 Classic Era, & 1 Sonic X location), but sometimes I go onto Sonic Speed Simulator(Yes, I sometimes watch Red Ninja videos).


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*''About the MK8 nomination (which will fail), you say there are a lot of fan votes. Since this happened with Mario, Luigi and Mario series (maybe even Megasparkle Goomba), should we make a policy about making a comment for why it should be supported when voting for support, and delete comments referring as "best game ever", "im a fan of this game support or die" and similar? Prevents completely random votes and fan ones in these four (five) examples. Or just having a link to the guidelines for when featurng in the page: prevents random votes but not fan ones.''
*''About the MK8 nomination (which will fail), you say there are a lot of fan votes. Since this happened with Mario, Luigi and Mario series (maybe even Megasparkle Goomba), should we make a policy about making a comment for why it should be supported when voting for support, and delete comments referring as "best game ever", "im a fan of this game support or die" and similar? Prevents completely random votes and fan ones in these four (five) examples. Or just having a link to the guidelines for when featurng in the page: prevents random votes but not fan ones.''


I don't think it's worth it to create a proposal about removing fan votes. Such proposals have failed [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/18#Allow_Support_Votes_to_be_Removed_on_Nomination_Pages.3F multiple] [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/16#Change_FA_rules_part_1 times], and related attempts to filter out potential fan votes have also [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/25#Require_FA_Support_Reason been] [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/30#Require_Support_Reasoning_for_FA_Nomination equally] [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/31#Allow_Support_Reasoning_on_Featured_Article_Nominations futile (this link is kind of eh, but you can see where I'm going)]. The simple reasoning behind these frequent failures is that fan votes are harmless in the process, albeit they're worthless. I do agree, however, that the whole method to feature an article is quite flawed. I don't think the voting system is the best system; maybe ditch the votes, just have an editorial consensus and then a staff member (who should have good judgement anyway) can feature the article once the consensus is clear. There's no need to remove oppose votes or support the nomination, and people who actually care about the quality of the article can contribute more meaningfully than slap a per all oppose vote. But that's a pretty bold idea; no doubts there will be some flaws and questions of the system, so I might bring it up in someplace like the forums first.
I don't think it's worth it to create a proposal about removing fan votes. Such proposals have failed [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_18#Allow_Support_Votes_to_be_Removed_on_Nomination_Pages.3F multiple] [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_16#Change_FA_rules_part_1 times], and related attempts to filter out potential fan votes have also [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_25#Require_FA_Support_Reason been] [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_30#Require_Support_Reasoning_for_FA_Nomination equally] [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_31#Allow_Support_Reasoning_on_Featured_Article_Nominations futile (this link is kind of eh, but you can see where I'm going)]. The simple reasoning behind these frequent failures is that fan votes are harmless in the process, albeit they're worthless. I do agree, however, that the whole method to feature an article is quite flawed. I don't think the voting system is the best system; maybe ditch the votes, just have an editorial consensus and then a staff member (who should have good judgement anyway) can feature the article once the consensus is clear. There's no need to remove oppose votes or support the nomination, and people who actually care about the quality of the article can contribute more meaningfully than slap a per all oppose vote. But that's a pretty bold idea; no doubts there will be some flaws and questions of the system, so I might bring it up in someplace like the forums first.


So, in one sentence: overhauling the system to make it discussion-based rather than vote/discussion-based is the better way to get rid of worthless fan votes rather than creating new policy.
So, in one sentence: overhauling the system to make it discussion-based rather than vote/discussion-based is the better way to get rid of worthless fan votes rather than creating new policy.
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That's the wrong thing to do. If there's a revision removing such references, please revert it and readd the references. {{User:Mario/sig}} 02:43, 16 November 2014 (EST)
That's the wrong thing to do. If there's a revision removing such references, please revert it and readd the references. {{User:Mario/sig}} 02:43, 16 November 2014 (EST)
:*"''OK, it is a bit flawed, I know. I had a thought, why not bringing back PAIR? I don't know why it got removed, but it may be a good idea to have both discussions about that and a review team to decide wheter an article is good or not (or just put an invisible category somewhere). If the team should be restricted to 3/4/5 people, templates can be cropped. If the overall vote if better than *insert number here*, it gets FA. First thing I could come up with. Also, since I'm new and stuff, do you know why it got deleted?''
:*"''OK, it is a bit flawed, I know. I had a thought, why not bringing back PAIR? I don't know why it got removed, but it may be a good idea to have both discussions about that and a review team to decide wheter an article is good or not (or just put an invisible category somewhere). If the team should be restricted to 3/4/5 people, templates can be cropped. If the overall vote if better than *insert number here*, it gets FA. First thing I could come up with. Also, since I'm new and stuff, do you know why it got deleted?''
:I wasn't here long enough to see that the PAIR system in action. I believe it just slowly died. Anyway, from what I can discern, PAIR collapsed because the process is convoluted and there aren't enough dedicated editors to make PAIR reviews. I do vaguely recall that there has been a [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/22#Revamp_PAIR_system proposal], but I and several other editors opposed it because the proposal is way too vague. I suppose I can talk to other users about its flaws, exactly why was it abandoned, and if there's any interest to revive it, I can get ideas to smooth out its ruffles.
:I wasn't here long enough to see that the PAIR system in action. I believe it just slowly died. Anyway, from what I can discern, PAIR collapsed because the process is convoluted and there aren't enough dedicated editors to make PAIR reviews. I do vaguely recall that there has been a [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_22#Revamp_PAIR_system proposal], but I and several other editors opposed it because the proposal is way too vague. I suppose I can talk to other users about its flaws, exactly why was it abandoned, and if there's any interest to revive it, I can get ideas to smooth out its ruffles.
:*''I'm looking for it. If you see a burst of refs at anytime, you know I found it and added all of them. I think I find it. The edit next to it (by the same person) readded them all. I don't think I need to check more.''
:*''I'm looking for it. If you see a burst of refs at anytime, you know I found it and added all of them. I think I find it. The edit next to it (by the same person) readded them all. I don't think I need to check more.''
:Thanks man, that's good. :) {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:43, 16 November 2014 (EST)
:Thanks man, that's good. :) {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:43, 16 November 2014 (EST)
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== Guess in SMG2 ==
== Guess in SMG2 ==


The 242nd star you are stuck on is The Perfect Run! Now where's my [[Gold Flower]]? [[File:DDP Big Face Sprite.png]] [[User:Unshy Guy|Unshy]] [[User talk:Unshy Guy|Guy]]
The 242nd star you are stuck on is The Perfect Run! Now where's my [[Gold Flower]]? [[File:Big Face.png]] [[User:Unshy Guy|Unshy]] [[User talk:Unshy Guy|Guy]]


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