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==The Actual Talk Page==
==The Actual Talk Page==
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===New rules===  
=== When moving files ===
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For your information, Porplemontage recently made some changes to the image use policy, most importantly [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Image_use_policy&diff=prev&oldid=2855732 with this change]. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 15:31, January 27, 2020 (EST)
Just an advice. When you move files, you don't need to capitalize words, you just need to move the extension. For example: When you want to move a file called File:Mario and luigi.PNG, you don't need to capitalize "Luigi", you only need to move to "File:Mario and luigi.png". See what i did with [[:File:Boo blah.png]]. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:16, May 21, 2019 (EDT)
::I'm aware. I have cut down a majority of my optimizations, however, in images that display excessive metadata (like the 49 bars iamge today) or specifically metadata with personal information (i've seen a mix of IPs, GPS Co-ordinates, and Iphone names; stuff we don't need readily seen around). If you'd like, I would be happy to assist demonstrating ''why'' next time. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 15:39, January 27, 2020 (EST)
 
:Since they're moving the file anyway, might as well fix any other mistakes in the name while they're at it. There's nothing wrong with that. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:26, May 21, 2019 (EDT)
::I know there is nothing wrong, i'm just telling him that capitalizing a word is unneeded, and what really matters is the extension. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:31, May 21, 2019 (EDT)
:::They don't have to, but if they want to do that together with the extension, let them. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:40, May 21, 2019 (EDT)


=== Smasher 'Shroom Portrait ===
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Hi, just letting you know that you optimised the wrong size of Smasher's shroom portrait, which results in making this portrait smaller than all the other staff portraits. So, I had to revert it. {{User:Ninja Squid/sig}}
::Interesting. Thank you for telling me. My apologies for the inconvenience. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 15:41, February 2, 2020 (EST)


=== RE:Autograph ===
While doing the above is great, why remove the parenthesis from file names? They're easy to type, and the filename is already clear as to what it is. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:35, June 18, 2019 (EDT)
 
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Try saying that for the [[Red Key (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story)|three]] [[Green Key|different]] [[Blue Key (Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story)|keys]] in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]]''. Plus, the [[Orb (Super Paper Mario)|''Super Paper Mario'' orbs]] clearly have different sprites, names, and descriptions, so it would be hard to make a good argument without mentioning the ''Bowser's Inside Story'' keys as well. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:09, February 9, 2020 (EST)
::Putting these on multiple talk pages makes the conversation much more difficult. Here's the thing though, I don't necessarily think that the three keys or orbs should have been split. The former is ''three keys for peach's second floor with the sole distinguishment of color'' and the orbs are  ''three orbs for making a bridge in the Overthere''. In my opinion, you could have a redirect instead of a page with anchors for the colors specifically. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 08:04, February 10, 2020 (EST)


===[[:File:NSMBWCW Logo.png]]===
Additionally, while it's great that you're keeping consistency, some of the images you're moving don't necessary ''need'' moving. If the name of the subject is clear, the image does not need to be moved.
*Renaming to lowercase extension ("File:TopReactorBeginning.PNG" to "File:SMG Lava Reactor Green Platforms.png") is okay.
*Renaming for clarity ("File:Thwomp.png" to "File:SMG Thwomp Artwork.png") is okay.
*"File:Rosalina SM3DW.png" to "File:SM3DW Rosalina Super Galaxy.png" just seems a little pointless, they both mean the same thing.
*Removing one character ("File:MSC - Concept art - Kritter.jpg" to "File:MSC Concept Art - Kritter.jpg") is even more pointless.
I don't mind deleting things that need to be deleted, but you're moving more images than you need to. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:44, July 15, 2019 (EDT)
:Aditionally, the examples such as [[Petapeta]] and [[Banekiti]] are among those Alex 95 cited. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:24, July 15, 2019 (EDT)
::I can understand Alex not being keen to the hyphens, but to that I cite ''"Avoid using punctuation (brackets, colons, dashes, etc.), superfluous words, conversational names and any other padding that may make names longer and more complicated than they need to be."'' from the image use policy, as well as me personally suggesting that almost all files in that area were being renamed to be appropriate to begin with, and that this only re-affirmed the consistency amongst them. In the future, I will avoid doing this without more reason to do so.
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::I'd also like to mention that [[:File:SM3DW Rosalina Super Galaxy.png|I didn't even do one of these]], nor would I have moved that file on it's name anyway. Furthermore, Petapeta and Banekiti were renamed to be accurate to the official name of the enemy as it currently is. Maybe my understanding is wrong, but it was generally understood by to me that ''file names be accurate to the file''. If this is no longer the case, I am willing to completely ignore such inaccurate files, but this requires actually knowing whether or not to do it. This may stem from no clear policy on the approach to name generalizations to exact names. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 15:17, July 15, 2019 (EDT)
:::Also, since I was the one who moved the SM3DW file in question, I'd like to point out that I did so as a naming conflict rename, because its name was too similar to the name of another image (I forgot which image), and I felt that was a good reason to rename it to avoid confusion. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 15:21, July 15, 2019 (EDT)
::::"Avoid using punctuation (brackets, colons, dashes, etc.)" - In that case, the second dash should've also been removed, but in all honesty, I don't really know why that rule is there. I can understand brackets, since that can mess with coding, but hyphens are usually easy to type...
::::"I didn't even do one of these" - My bad.
::::"Petapeta and Banekiti were renamed to be accurate to the official name of the enemy as it currently is." - That is totally fine. Renaming an image to fit an article's name is acceptable.
::::"file names be accurate to the file" - This is still true, and that's my point. If the name is already accurate, it doesn't need changing.
::::"I'd like to point out that I did so as a naming conflict rename" - @Supermariofan67, thanks for clarifying. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:48, July 16, 2019 (EDT)
:::::What really is necessary is the extension, not if the file has a conjectural name in it. Also, the beta images renaming was completely unnecessary. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:59, August 11, 2019 (EDT)
::It certainly was not unnecessary, as policy intentionally tries to avoid using Beta. If pages shouldn't be using it, neither should files. Furthermore, conjectural names are not always correct or representative of an image, either due to a different image being uploaded, or an official name being found. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 16:02, August 11, 2019 (EDT)
::It may be beneficial for you to read both the [[MarioWiki:Image use policy]] and [[User:Trig Jegman#Terminology|my terminology section]] to get a better understanding of ''why'' I do things. It's not because it has no purpose. As stated before by Mario JC and insinuated by Alex, it '''does not hurt to fix the main file name if something is wrong, including information in the file name.''' [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 16:32, August 11, 2019 (EDT)
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Where did you find a png version of this? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:45, February 12, 2020 (EST)
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::I re-saved it form the website, and it was a PNG. The used version on another part of the webpage, with concept arts and some big chart, is a GIF version. Mine is the one displayed that I believe takes you to the home menu. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 08:12, February 12, 2020 (EST)
:::[http://www.capcom.co.jp/arcade/coinworld/index.html This] website? I can't find a png of this logo anywhere (except this [http://www.capcom.co.jp/arcade/coinworld/img/common/logo_header.png small one] that links to the home page), only gifs on the home page and [http://www.capcom.co.jp/arcade/coinworld/info.html chart page]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:30, February 12, 2020 (EST)
::::Well that's weird. I feel like saved the [http://www.capcom.co.jp/arcade/coinworld/info.html chart page] version directly from it and it saved as a PNG, checking my settings it has not changed from the default file type. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 20:33, February 12, 2020 (EST)


===Flimflam===
=== Moving Files on WiKirby ===
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Firstly, thanks for finding/creating that image for the slot machine page. Secondly, you said the flame creatures are called 'Flimflams' in the "game guide". If you meant instruction manual - it simply calls them 'fire' like a general hazard instead of an enemy, and they're under the contraptions section. It also doesn't mention slot machines in any way. If you find a source for either name, please let me know. [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 15:49, February 12, 2020 (EST)
Seeing as you move so many files on mario wiki, would you be interested in helping move files on WiKirby? There's quite a bit of uppercase-extension files there, especially on [https://wikirby.com/wiki/Template:Ability_Chart here] (and yes, you can change to monobook skin via your preferences if you don't like default layout). Just an offer since you're such a help here :) [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 16:53, June 1, 2019 (EDT)
::US Prima guide refers to them as Flimflams. Slot machine in said guide is only referred to as 'slot machine' (lowercase). I am working on obtaining a US manual for the game. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 15:56, February 12, 2020 (EST)
 
::::Ok, but when you make the page, just put "(also known as '''fire''')" at the top with the ref of the english manual pg25 [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 16:07, February 12, 2020 (EST)
:That is a consideration of mine once I get most of the stuff done here, or at least have other people doing this besides me. As of now, there is a lot here to manage before I do other wikis. Short answer: Maybe, but not now. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 09:55, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
::::::Sure thing. I will try my best to find a more concrete name source first, though. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 16:10, February 12, 2020 (EST)
::Do you ever get tired of moving file names? :P [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 11:42, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
:::Never. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 11:44, June 2, 2019 (EDT)


=== Mario Kart Tour ===
=== WhatLinksHere ===
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Since I can currently only use discussion pages, I have a small request for you, and that is a small mistake on the Mario Kart Tour page with the high-end (spotlight) characters. Wario (Hiker) is listed on these characters, but is a regular high-end.
You should check [[Special:WhatLinksHere]] (it's under "tools" on the left navigation pane) for the old file names rather than just the "File usage" header before marking them for deletion, as the latter doesn't show file page links like [[Special:Diff/2681528|this]]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:59, June 3, 2019 (EDT)


Here is the proof, at minute 1:27: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwFk8eyZiPo&t=333s  --[[User:TheKerberos01|TheKerberos01]] ([[User talk:TheKerberos01|talk]]) 16:10, February 14, 2020 (EST)
:Darn, and I usually catch those too. Sorry! [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 16:35, June 4, 2019 (EDT)


:Wanted to let you know that Qyzxf has undone your edit on the Mario Kart Tour page.--[[User:TheKerberos01|TheKerberos01]] ([[User talk:TheKerberos01|talk]]) 17:09, February 18, 2020 (EST)
=== Undergrunt image ===
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Why did you tag that Undergrunt image with the image-quality tag? It's in high res because of fpv, iirc, I spoke with the person who took it before they did to ensure it'd be good enough. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:48, June 14, 2019 (EDT)


::So I realized. I'm not sure how to approach this, since I don't own or play the game. Perhaps discuss it with the user themself on their talk page. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:25, February 18, 2020 (EST)
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You were already [[User_talk:Trig_Jegman/Archive_1#JPGs|notified about this]]. Stop marking images with {{tem|image-quality}} unless there's a good reason (e.g. a watermark) or they're poor enough quality that they need to be reuploaded (i.e. not every single jpg that already shows what it needs to show in adequate quality). Some images were only available in jpg in the source they came from anyway. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:46, June 20, 2019 (EDT)


:::The second week has now started and apparently Wario (Hiker) is one of the spotlight characters. Because if you want to take a tube with Wario (Hiker) and go into details, then Rosalina (Aurora) is listed as standard. Both seem to be standard only for the corresponding tubes, but that wasn't the case before, at least since I started playing the game. I only started in December.--[[User:TheKerberos01|TheKerberos01]] ([[User talk:TheKerberos01|talk]]) 02:35, February 19, 2020 (EST)
=== Inactive users ===
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Telling someone a file on their userpage has been moved is good, but an inactive user likely won't see the message. Just keep it to active users, and anyone can correct the files on their page themselves if they see it's broken. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:41, June 24, 2019 (EDT)


===Gamma===
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When colors differ between optimized and non-optimized images, it is, from my understanding, <s>usually</s> (often; it depends on how the image was exported, correct me if I'm wrong) the optimized result that contains the intended colors. The original images, when exported without unchecking certain options, sometimes contain gamma-correction metadata to determine the image's brightness; however, browsers often don't display this data properly as it is intended for editing. See {{User|Wildgoosespeeder}}'s comment on my talk page, {{User|RAP}}'s [[User:RAP/PNG|FAQ]] for previous discussions on the topic, and [https://hsivonen.fi/png-gamma/ this article] for more details. Compare the color of Luigi's clothing with the other images of Luigi from NSLU. While in some cases the gamma correction is needed, this particular image ([[:File:NSMBU Luigi Jumping Artwork.png]]) seems it could be accurate without it. Edit: After looking at more images, I understand that it is much more complicated than I originally thought (gamma makes some images accurate and others inaccurate), see my comment on [[MarioWiki:Proposals]] for more details. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 23:26, February 15, 2020 (EST)
Do you know any active users who create or can create image files called File .jpg? [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 17:30, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
::I entirely agree that images typically look better without the gamma correction involved however both Steve and several other administerative staff have affirmed that we are not to optimize it just because it's more accurate to the actual display of the source. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 08:12, February 16, 2020 (EST)
 
:::Gotcha, that's understandable. I have found a way to optimize images without removing this particular iCCP metadata, therefore preserving colors. I tested it on [[:File:NSMBDS Goomba Artwork.png]]. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 12:47, February 16, 2020 (EST)
:You mean upload files as .jpg? Anyone can do that, when it is named as such and assuming the file is jpg. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:32, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
::::::Interesting. I still think the template is important to use then, as someone might try to optimize further. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 14:23, February 16, 2020 (EST)
 
:::::::That makes sense. Is there a way we could modify the template/proposed policy to consider this? Something like:
::You wouldn't mind doing that for me, would you? Please? [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 17:34, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
<div class="notice-template" style="display:flex;text-align:center;background:#BF5FFF;margin:0.675em 2% 1.75em;padding:0 1em;border:2px solid black;color:black">
 
'''This image contains  ''[[User:Trig Jegman#What's Gamma Brightening?|gamma brightening]]'', and should not be optimized without preserving iCCP metadata.'''
:::Not a mind at all. Go ahead and do what you need to get it to me. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:36, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
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--{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 14:30, February 16, 2020 (EST)
::::This link leads to a picture that needs a jpg file. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q165133918 [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 17:39, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
::I'm worried about doing that because gamma is already confusing enough to the average person. I think that instead, the original template should remain and the iCCP metadata could be described on a 'MarioWiki:Gamma Brightening' page that the template could link to itself. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 14:45, February 16, 2020 (EST)
 
:::::It's called super Mario seesaw takeover and it was made by Banpresto and officially licensed by Nintendo. Please send the jpg file to me on my talk page when the jpg has been created. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 17:53, June 26, 2019 (EDT)


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[[User_talk:Trig_Jegman/Archive_2#WhatLinksHere]]. You should be checking this for every file. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:20, February 17, 2020 (EST)


=== "Render" ===
File can be found at [[:File:Super Mario Yoshi Ride.jpg]] (and if you move it, let me know to fix my page here). If it weren't for the fact that I've seen you flinging yourself everywhere to get this stuff, I'd have thought this was some form of malicious intent because this computer bombed ''hard'' trying to get to the page. No idea how to categorize or copyright it though, so please do that as soon as you can (use <nowiki>[[Category:(Insert category here)]]</nowiki> to do so) [[User:Trig Jegman|pretty clear who's responding here]] - 17:57, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 
:I messed up telling you about those battery cars. If you look up @yamapen3 Mario on Google images, you will be shown various arcade games they found throughout Japan. They use anime girls as their profile pictures. If you have the color setting option on Google images, click red for the Mario battery car I described to you and green for the yoshi battery car I described to you. And make sure the images you send me have no anime girls on the pictures and that no one is riding the battery cars. Please help me with this. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 21:56, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 
::I'm all for getting images, but hunting things down is not how I operate. Not only have you not described battery cars to me, but I am not going to engage in anything involving Google besides their electronic mail. There are plenty of other people that would do this for you, but I am not one of them. My apologies. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 22:05, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 
:::Furthermore, I'm more than happy to help a person once, but I have plenty of my own work to do. I try to say this honestly and nicely when I say that it feels like you're forcing this project of yours upon others; and based on your last talk page block of test, forcing on myself. I urge you to please seek elsewhere. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 22:12, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 
::::Ok. I will do that. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 22:21, June 26, 2019 (EDT)
 
=== RE: From one file czar to another ===
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Technically it ''is'' a render, it's just an ''official'' render, so we count it as artwork. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:52, February 18, 2020 (EST)
Although I don't own any of the games you mentioned (or have much interest in the Mario sports games), I definitely plan to work on plenty of other ones when I'm done with SMG/2, but since those two games are such a massive project I'm trying to focus a lot on getting those ones as perfect as I can before I move on. Specifically, I plan to work on [[Yoshi's Woolly World]], [[Super Mario 64]], [[Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker]], [[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]], and probably many others. Also, my userpage has a list of games I own if you're curious what else I could work on. As for how I capture the images, I follow {{User|Wildgoosespeeder}}'s [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/sandbox|amazing, though slightly outdated, guide]]. Specifically, I use the Dolphin emulator for Wii/GCN, the method described on [[User:Supermariofan67#Getting Screenshots from Wii U|my userpage]] for Wii U, and the built-in screenshot function for Switch.


===Double Last Warnings===
Thank you also for the amazing work you do! I imagine it must be boring and tedious, but necessary. If you want to learn more about what I do and some technical stuff related to images, read my userpage and the above-mentioned Wildgoosespeeder guide. You may also be interested in reading older talk page discussions by {{User|Wildgoosespeeder}}, {{User|RAP}}, and {{User|Megadardery}}. Though they are no longer active users, they are probably some of our wiki's most influential file maintainers. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 21:52, July 2, 2019 (EDT)
:If you'd like, you can link your demonstration image on my talk page. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 23:22, July 4, 2019 (EDT)
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Thank you, I have noted those files and will reupload them soon. If you come across any more, would you mind adding them to [[User talk:Supermariofan67/Sandbox2#Trig Jegman found|to section of my sandbox here]]? --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 22:13, July 7, 2019 (EDT)
:No mind at all. Thanks. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 22:15, July 7, 2019 (EDT)
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Regarding "Honey is not an item" in your notes section, I removed [[Honey]] from the SMG2 article altogether, because it doesn't even appear in the game; it only appears in SMG. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 22:09, July 11, 2019 (EDT)
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Ok. I can wait a bit, since I’ll be starting my project by going through the galaxies, which will be all over the alphabet. There’s a lot of other stuff I can work on until you’re done. I may work on renaming files for ''Super Mario 3D World'' and helping {{User|Lord Falafel}} with getting images. How long do you estimate it will be until you finish? I’d prefer not to wait more than 2 weeks to start SMG because I want to finish it by the end of August. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 19:33, July 14, 2019 (EDT)
:If I tryhard enough, I will be done or really close to one in a week (depending on thurs, maybe even by then). [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 20:38, July 14, 2019 (EDT)
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That's a good point, thanks! I won't worry about this recent one, but I'll definitely keep that in mind in the future. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 15:38, July 15, 2019 (EDT)
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While it is true a while ago I mistakenly gave a user with a last warning another one, I shouldn't have done that retrospectively. Per the template: "The next time you break the rules in any way, you will be blocked from editing the Super Mario Wiki.". Thus, given that Count Luigi already was told not to do what you gave him another LW for before, including being told about that problem after his last warning, he should have been reported to be blocked. It is true that the warning policy page states "If you go to warn someone and find they have already been given a last warning for any issue, contact an admin, as that user most likely needs to be blocked for their latest misdemeanor. For certain circumstances, however, such as if the last warning was issued a long time ago, additional reminders/warnings per standard procedure may be considered instead of an immediate block.", however his original last warning was still somewhat recent and literally his entire history revolves around image-related problems, and thus giving another one was not needed. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 21:44, February 21, 2020 (EST)
Okay great! I'll start tomorrow. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 21:39, July 16, 2019 (EDT)
:I'd hardly call almost three whole years "still somewhat recent" myself. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:55, February 21, 2020 (EST)
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::Both [[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] and myself discussed it and said it was on the fence on the period of time for renewal. Since their issues were the exact same thing, I think that the block (especially at it's length) is acceptable. I was more worried about not overreaching on how to approach the situation. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 21:58, February 21, 2020 (EST)
Yeah I think that alphabetize template is an awesome idea! One suggestion I have would be to add a parameter for the user to specify a request for another sort order other than alphabetical (e.g., "It has been requested that this section be re-organized to be in release-date order.") as other sort orders are common and I have seen many character screenshot galleries that aren't sorted properly. BTW about the PNG template you may be interested in reading [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 44#Stricter Image Quality Tag Policy, Additional Image Quality Sub-templates, and Dividing Images in Category:Quality requested Into Subcategories|this past proposal]] by Wildgoosespeeder. I think I agree with your idea, and I suggest taking into consideration the wording on the proposal's [[User:Wildgoosespeeder/PNG/sandbox|corresponding PNG template]], both in the template itself and the intended usage listed on that page. One suggestion I have that deviates from that past proposal is naming the template something like {{tem|PNG Requested}}, or better yet {{tem|Resample as PNG}} instead of {{tem|Convert to PNG}} as in my opinion that would be a more accurate description of what's needed. Great idea though, as the image-quality category has become very crowded and I like the idea of splitting it between extremely horrible-quality, high-priority-to-replace images ({{tem|image-quality}}) and sub-optimal, but not as horrible images (in this case non-png screenshots (your template)). --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 22:19, July 31, 2019 (EDT)
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Sure, I can help a little. However, probably not until later in the week as I'm still finishing up SMG and I'll be busy with school starting Monday. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 22:01, August 17, 2019 (EDT)
::Absolutely zero pressure. I will assign you to a small portion, and will check back in like a month or two. Thank you kindly! It means a lot. See [[User:Trig Jegman/sandbox|the main sandbox]] for what files you will be moving on the chart. If you can't get them due to time, let me know sooner than later and I can swing around and get them when I have time. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 22:08, August 17, 2019 (EDT)
:::Okay great! --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 22:14, August 17, 2019 (EDT)
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===Gamma correction template===
=== Ugly Green Frog and Fat Man ===
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Is it okay if this design is okay for the template that you asked to be created as per [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 55#New Template:Gamma Image|this proposal]]:
Bazooka Mario loved giving files ridiculous names back in the day, but stopped many many years ago. No reason to complain about them now. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:24, July 2, 2019 (EDT)
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:not really complaining, just means more needless work in fixing things. that's just the way the world spins, though. oh well. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig, the guy that is really uptight about file names]] - 22:26, July 2, 2019 (EDT)
This image has {{wp|gamma correction}} metadata, and thus '''should not be optimized'''.
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Just wondering. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:34, February 24, 2020 (EST)
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::It's been changed somewhat because gamma correction is a smaller chunk of what it is. It's likely going to be more akin to:
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This image has ''[[User:Trig Jegman#What's Gamma Brightening?|color changing metadata]]'' and should not be optimized.
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::And have the template name <nowiki>{{Color-Correction}}</nowiki>, though I am still discussing it with [[User:Supermariofan67|Supermariofan67]] and [[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]]. I know you're excited to get proposals made but we still need to work out the creation of an actual page for what color correction--and possibly optimization--is. If you've any experience and would like to help you are more than welcome to, as a majority of it is on [[User talk:Supermariofan67/Sandbox2|SMF67's sandbox]].
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::Additionally (although somewhat petty and less important), don't add the line when creating a section. I add the line myself to indicate that I have read a message. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:29, February 24, 2020 (EST)
:::I think I've now addressed your and Mister Wu's suggestions and added everything needed on that page. Could you check if I should change anything or add anything else? Otherwise, it's probably ready to go. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 17:55, February 24, 2020 (EST)
::::I left talk page messages for {{User|Wildgoosespeeder}} (he isn't very active anymore though) and {{User|Porplemontage}} and I'm waiting to hear back. I also talked to {{User|Mister Wu}} and applied his suggestions. If you know of any other users who might be knowledgeable in this topic, feel free to help by reaching out to them as well. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 16:56, February 25, 2020 (EST)
:::::Thanks a lot! - Trig - 17:07, February 25, 2020 (EST)
::::::Should we move forward on this now? {{User|Porplemontage}} said that everything looks okay, and {{User|Wildgoosespeeder}} might not respond for a while since he's not very active anymore. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 17:28, February 27, 2020 (EST)
:::I'll go ahead and take over from here. Thanks a lot for your help man, means a lot. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:42, February 27, 2020 (EST)


===Proposal clarification===
=== File:Blue Extra Live Balloon DKC2.png ===
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You made several mistakes when you archived recently-completed proposals. First, you passed a proposal with only three votes. Per the proposal page, "Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion." Second, you marked a proposal which won as one which had no quorum. However, the proposal had more than three votes, and the rules that say that a proposal must be extended if no option wins by at least three votes, or that the winning option must win by the majority else it gets extended, only apply to proposals with both two options and more than ten votes, or proposals with more than two options, respectively. The proposal  doesn't meet the criteria for these rules, and thus it won. Third, you marked a proposal with no quorum when it should have continued. The proposal applied to the rule of needing a majority due to having more than two options, and it had more than three votes, thus it should have continued. Finally, when archiving proposals, you should use the {{tem|Proposal outcome}} template on the proposal's talk page, or on the page they're archived on like [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 55|here]]. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 09:48, February 27, 2020 (EST)
want to rename the "Live" in filename to "Life"? This will fix the spelling & save me the effort of renaming it myself (seeing as you're already doing this big job at it). Thanks [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 16:35, July 3, 2019 (EDT)
::My apologies on that. I'll take responsibility on the Shy Guy, but I was not sure how to classify the won as no quorum because of the duplicate votes in place. Because I could not really determine what won per se (even with looking at the rules), I assumed it was no quorum. As for the third, I don't know what you man for the placement of that template. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 09:57, February 27, 2020 (EST)
:::I made a mistake with the regular Bowser Stature proposal. I was counting the duplicate votes as well when it came to the majority wins rules, so the proposal won instead of continuing or being no quorum, so sorry about that. Though what I said about the Black Shy Guy and Gold Bowser Statue proposals still pertain. Anyways, for the template, you just need to place it under the {{tem|Settled TPP}} template. Like this:
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Only the proprietor {{user|Porplemontage}} can do that, however it's not necessary to fix the image links if they're on userspace (especially those of inactive users). The reason there are so many links is because it's on [[User:Count Bonsula/welcome|this page]], which is transcluded into those user talk pages. {{User:Mario jc/sig}}


(The rest of the proposal itself)
===Wario Land Series Images===
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I think you might want to check over the images for the first three Wario Land games to see if there are any files that still need to be changed - most importantly, Wario Land 3, as there are many files for that game that still have capitalized extensions or have wrong names. Perhaps you could put this game next in your queue? [[User:Power Flotzo|Power Flotzo]] ([[User talk:Power Flotzo|talk]]) 22:29, July 7, 2019 (EDT)
:It was hinted to me that quite a few of em changed. It'll be a few months before I get to that point but your input is noted and appreciated. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 22:34, July 7, 2019 (EDT)


The [[Template:Proposal outcome]] gives more clear instructions (and is where I took the example for the template). I hope this makes it more clear. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 12:43, February 27, 2020 (EST)
=== In regards to the delete-revision template ===
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I mainly had it made to alert admins of accidental or repeated reuploads (which happens a lot), vandalism, and edit wars <s>(and so people would stop bugging {{user|Shokora}} about it)</s>. If it's just three or four revisions on an image, even if duplicate, it doesn't really need the revisions deleted. Not every image needs to be knocked down to two revisions just for the heck of it. I deleted some already before deciding the amount you had marked was incredibly excessive, but I'll continue going through them to see if anything actually needs removed. Otherwise, it isn't really worth the effort to delete one or two revisions from an image with only three or four. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:59, July 8, 2019 (EDT)


== Image help ==
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Wow. There's a lot (and I mean a LOT) of unused [[Super Mario Maker 2]] images. Are we saving those for any reason, or should I start trying to integrate and purge? [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 09:35, July 13, 2019 (EDT)


Well, I'm screwed. I don't know how to see image files on an Intel Asus. It says something about tools in the tab bar, but I don't see it anywhere. So I need your help with uploading an image of Mario Party Fushigi no Korokoro Catcher 2 on the game's page. Even if I could upload images, so much stuff for those Capcom Mario games is in Japanese, which I can't read. I know the staff told me not to tell others to do stuff for me when I can do it myself, but I can't see image files on my laptop. So I need someone to help me. We also have lack of Donkey Kong Banana Kingdom by itself on the page. The only image we seem to have of the machine is the flyer, so I don't know if there's one somewhere in an image category: page or if we need to add an image of that game, too. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 11:06, March 2, 2020 (EST)
=== Your thoughts ===
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::Where are images not displaying properly? Additionally, could you explain what browser and operating system you are using? I might be able to help you upload images from a source if you could link them, but I don't know where to look for Banana Kingdom. If you think a page should have more images, feel free to add {{tem|more images}} to the top of the page (with the brackets). [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 11:11, March 2, 2020 (EST)
*What do you think of special characters (like & + ! .) in filenames? I personally try to include them (such as in Mario & Luigi or King K. Rool).
*How do you feel about filenames that are all bunched together like [[:File:ACloudyDay MinionQuest.png]]?
*Many ''Super Mario Maker'' filenames have arbitrary dashes (like [[:File:SMM-SMB-BuzzyBeetleShell.png]]), a plague that is also impacting ''Super Mario Maker 2''. What do you think about these? Should they be moved to be just normal spaces? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 23:49, July 15, 2019 (EDT)


I did. I don't know what operating system I'm using, but the only search engine I use is Google and the only social media I'm on is YouTube. I've found stuff on Twitter, but I don't regularly go there. I don't know where to look for images of those games. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 18:22, March 2, 2020 (EST)
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::Do you have the actual image on your computer and just don't know how to upload it? I can help you with that. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 18:33, March 2, 2020 (EST)
::[[User:Trig Jegman#How I, and you too, can approach renaming files|Per my little walkthrough]], as well as the image use policy <small>''("Avoid using punctuation (brackets, colons, dashes, etc.), superfluous words, conversational names and any other padding that may make names longer and more complicated than they need to be")''</small>, I am highly against any punctuation that isn't a hyphen, including parenthesis. Usually, however, I don't mess with parentheses or hyphens (unless there are many unneeded or inconsistent ones). Things like exclamation points, ampersands, and more than one period should DEFINITELY be removed when possible. The Mario and/& Luigi RPG files are definitely something to look at later down the road.
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::I don't prefer bunched together file names, but don't mess it unless I'm changing something else anyway. If you're naming a file, don't combine em, but it's not needed to move for that reason alone.
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::I haven't looked at many [[Super Mario Maker]] [[Super Mario Maker 2|(or 2)]]'s files, but those hyphens to me seem appropriate to the file types. It denotes the game (SMM) and the subset of said game (SMB, in your example). Stuff that doesn't need a hyphen but uses one is a file like [[:File:Mario Spin Art - Super Mario Galaxy.png]].
::I am happy to answer any further questions you may have. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 16:07, July 16, 2019 (EDT)


No, I don't. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 11:53, March 3, 2020 (EST)
:::Thank you for responding.
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:::This wiki can be... not the most logical at times.
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:::Sometimes they completely ruin naming schemes. If I want to find an image of, say, [[Big Showdown on a Little Star]], I'll first look for "SMM2 Big Showdown on a Little Star.png" Not "BigShowdownonaLittleStar SMM2.png"
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:::It's even more annoying to type needless dashes instead of spaces. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 18:46, July 16, 2019 (EDT)
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::::That is not in my control. Please do not complain here about this. Files are at various lives here, some 8 years old and some ten minutes. Rarely will any be uploaded in large numbers with a consistent naming scheme, and it's frankly impossible to truly have a perfect naming structure. If you'd like to move files for Super Mario Maker, the only thing stopping you is your own scale of time. I'm only here to attempt to standardize, not to complain about actions of people 7+ years ago. Furthermore, please let me format my talk page. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 20:42, July 16, 2019 (EDT)
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::So what exactly are you asking for? I'm somewhat confused. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 12:22, March 3, 2020 (EST)
===Questions about MTA icons===
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Quick question, when renaming international game icons, should we mention the fact that they are the international icon. Take [[:File:Mario Tennis Aces logo.png]] for example. Should it just be renamed File:MTA logo.png, or File:MTA international icon.png? Also, should language names be abbreviated? So for example should [[:File:MTA JPLogo.jpg]] be renamed to File:MTA JP Logo.jpg or File:MTA Japanese logo.jpg? Thanks for your help. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 17:18, July 17, 2019 (EDT)


I'm asking for Google to help me out. Maybe you could help upload a few images of some arcade games and put them on their respective pages. Just a few. There's an image of Donkey Kong Banana Kingdom that we cover, but it's a flyer image. We can keep that, but we need an image of the machine by itself and luckily, I found it on Google. Unfortunately, the only descent image of Mario Party Fushigi no Korokoro Catcher 2 I could find on Google is a flyer, but we need that image too. The last image is for Super Mario World (arcade). It is an image of the inside of the machine and it should go in the gallery. It can be found in the Mario boards if you search arcade coverage. It will be the Fabtek post posted by borp. There's a link to it on the Super Mario Wiki page Super Mario World (arcade). [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 13:49, March 4, 2020 (EST)
::None of these above need renamed (unless there's an extension [[User:Trig Jegman#Terminology|NCR]]). Like, ''zero'' of them need renamed. Generally speaking for logos, there is only two: Japanese and not-Japanese. For this, File:''"Filename"'' logo is appropriate for the not-Japanese and File:''"Filename"'' JP Logo should be used for the Japanese version. If there is a third (PAL/Korea), it should be specified. Remember, '''everything here is based off the American version of things'''.
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::Similarly for game boxes, File:''"Filename"'' ''"Region"'' box art is appropriate.
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::My words are in no means the official way, but it what I have noticed historically and attempt to repeat should logo names be moved. Thank you for your question. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 19:51, July 17, 2019 (EDT)
:::Thanks for the response! {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 20:47, July 17, 2019 (EDT)


::I'm just gonna pretend like you [[User talk:Lord Falafel#Edit Flooding|haven't been told what I'm about to say before]] now by the big [[User:Mario jc|JC]] but what you're doing is asking for me to do the work for you, which come across as more lazy than it does in need of actual help. If you actually have an image saved (which I think you do for the Banana Kingdom) or maybe, if in small quantity, sourced in a link I would be more than happy to show you how '''you''' can upload that image, but my job isn't to do the work for you. Furthermore, pretending as though you weren't trying to skirmish away from effort, there are several additional hindering factors, such as (not limited to): I avoid the mario boards like I would avoid toxic waste or mayonaise. I also don't think borp would be too thrilled about me jacking his stuff either based on our frequent disagreements, but you are more than welcome to save the image and I can walk through how to upload the image. Secondarily, unless I can rip it from an actual nintendo site, I really don't enjoy uploading images if I can't track the original source of the image, because point 3--I don't really upload new images. I only mess with things ''we already have''. I would suggest you try talking with Results May Vary or Mario jc about finding new images to upload. Point four, I use Bing. Thought you'd want to know.
===Talk pages w/ proposals===
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Please do not mark talk pages with proposals for deletion. They should be kept for historical reference. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 10:22, July 21, 2019 (EDT)


::I appreciate what you're trying to do in having full coverage, but it's not appropriate to try and get other people to cover that coverage for you. Nothing is stopping you from making that coverage besides your own lack of effort. Thank you for understanding. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 19:44, March 4, 2020 (EST)
=== Talk Pages ===
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Just because they haven't been used in a long while doesn't mean they fit the criteria for deletion, especially not if they contain questions and comments relevant to developing the article. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 21:23, July 31, 2019 (EDT)


Did you read my top comment? And I don't have any images saved except for one unrelated image. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 00:29, March 5, 2020 (EST)
What Lord Grammaticus said. Talk pages with any kind of discussion shouldn't be deleted either. You've been told this in summaries and had your edits reverted several times already, just leave them. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:25, July 31, 2019 (EDT)


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Well, I'm screwed. I don't know how to see image files on an Intel Asus.  
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What's a red dead? [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 22:58, August 3, 2019 (EDT)
::I find that hard to believe.
:I'm not Trig but I've been waiting to say this. It's either a [[zeldawiki:ReDead|ReDead]] or a contraction of "dead red link" or "red & dead" (a rhyming phrase to describe a red link) [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 23:00, August 3, 2019 (EDT)
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::Red, dead links <small>as rmv threw in as I was writing this</small>. In short, files that no longer exist. They appear as red links instead of blue. Since they do not exist anymore, I am removing them to remove the fluff on the page. This makes it easier to view what files still need helping. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig the tired]] - 23:02, August 3, 2019 (EDT)
So I need your help with uploading an image of Mario Party Fushigi no Korokoro Catcher 2 on the game's page. Even if I could upload images, so much stuff for those Capcom Mario games is in Japanese, which I can't read.  
 
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::What makes you think that I can read Japanese? I can barely speak ''english'' half the time. Even then, you don't necessarily need to be able to read japanese in order to upload an image, it would just be harder to write a summary for. You furthermore do not explain where this image is hosted until later where you just say
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What difference does using the tag make if it's deleted anyway? I noticed it was done so I went ahead with it so you didn't need to. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:20, August 11, 2019 (EDT)
Unfortunately, the only descent image of Mario Party Fushigi no Korokoro Catcher 2 I could find on Google is a flyer, but we need that image too.
::It causes some weird issues with What Links Here, and doesn't always show what is left. I like to replace ''everything'', especially when it comes to my sandbox and the preservation of The RAP Test. <s><small>it is also so that I feel confident that I didn't forget to actually delete it, but that is a little less important.</small></s> [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 22:25, August 11, 2019 (EDT)
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::Google has billions of images on it and almost none of them can actually be effectively sourced. It may be more beneficial to try and look at the game's website or special gaming websites that have official art (like IGN) on them.  
===Dash vs Hyphen===
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I know the staff told me not to tell others to do stuff for me when I can do it myself, but I can't see image files on my laptop.  
Coming off of the discussion that was in Discord, there may be confusion over the two symbols. A dash (-) is what's normally seen in file names, and I think is perfectly fine to have, as it's pretty easy to type on most keyboards, even mobile. A hyphen (—) is something that isn't seen on most keyboards, I had to use the special characters selection to make it appear, which isn't something that should be used in file names.
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::I'm no tech whiz but my senses are telling me that you're either lying or you turned off javascript or something.  
So while hyphens should be removed, I don't think dashes should be if the name is already clear enough. Like "File:Dorrie Screenshot - New Super Mario Bros.png" was perfectly fine. I know the image use policy specifically mentions "dashes", but I want to talk to Porple about that at some point... {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:24, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
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:I think it's the other way around. Hyphens (-) are found on keyboards, while the three different types of dashes (–, —, and ―, which are longer than hyphens) are not. See [[Wikipedia:Dash]] and [[Wikipedia:Hyphen]]. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 18:22, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
We also have lack of Donkey Kong Banana Kingdom by itself on the page. The only image we seem to have of the machine is the flyer, so I don't know if there's one somewhere in an image category: page or if we need to add an image of that game, too.
::Er, those are actually {{wp|Hyphen-minus}}es. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 18:40, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
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:::No. – (U+2013) is an En-dash. — (U+2014) is an Em-dash. ― (U+2015) is a horizontal bar dash. ‐ (U+2010) is a hyphen. - (U+002D) is a hyphen-minus. − (U+2212) is a minus sign. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 19:05, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
::The change here was confusing but alright. After looking at [[Donkey Kong: Banana Kingdom|the page in question]], there's not much else I can say that isn't already there. Personally, for such a small scale game, I think five pictures (promo 4 logo 1) is probably fine in all honesty.  
::::Hate to be the guy but ''it does not matter what it is called because neither of them should really be used in file names''. This is now a discussion for elsewhere. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 21:29, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
 
===Catch Card help===
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Guess I'll help out with the first 20 Catch Cards. May not get all 20 finished today, but I'll try my best. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 22:08, August 17, 2019 (EDT)
 
===Re:In terms of welcome===
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It is still used. Quite frequently, too. See {{tem|Imagecategory-reminder}}. If it was abandoned then it would say so on that page. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 12:49, August 20, 2019 (EDT)


::So yeah, I read it. It's just difficult to make sense of it. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 07:29, March 5, 2020 (EST)
=== Sheet music images ===
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Yes, please. That sounds awesome. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 22:28, August 20, 2019 (EDT)


:A weasel to the last edit. Good riddance. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 12:14, March 5, 2020 (EST)
=== Stick a fork in it -- I'm done! ===
::Took long enough. [[User:MikhailMCraft|MikhailMCraft]] ([[User_talk:MikhailMCraft|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MikhailMCraft|contribs]]) 12:43, March 5, 2020 (EST)
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::::Y'all were a bit mean to the guy. Granted, I did not like the actions he was taking, but that's no reason to be rude about it. You're more than welcome to hold those opinions ''to yourselves'' or in closed conversations, but not here. Please do not '''ever''' leave those types of messages on my pages again. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 12:54, March 5, 2020 (EST)
Just finished the 60th Catch Card. Took almost half-an-hour if I'm not mistaken. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 23:06, August 20, 2019 (EDT)
:::::Backing Trig up on that. There's no need to be discourteous, regardless of how you feel about someone. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:59, March 5, 2020 (EST)
::Wow! Thanks a lot. Definitely a big time saver for me. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 23:08, August 20, 2019 (EDT)
::::::I deeply apologize for my behavior just then - I did ''not'' think before I typed that one up. [[User:MikhailMCraft|MikhailMCraft]] ([[User_talk:MikhailMCraft|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MikhailMCraft|contribs]]) 13:04, March 5, 2020 (EST)
 
::::::Yeah, after a bit of thought that was uncalled for. My apologies, Trig, we shouldn't make you a host to drama. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 13:08, March 5, 2020 (EST)
=== Meh ===
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Ah, well. Again, sorry. I hope I will not get any warnings.  Oh, and, for anything else, I'm male. [[User:That Guy|That Guy]] ([[User talk:That Guy|talk]]) 18:53, August 21


== Broken file links ==
:Are you still there?  Yello? [[User:That Guy|That Guy]] ([[User talk:That Guy|talk]]) 19:18, August 21, 2019 (EDT)


<s>After you're done for the day, I strongly suggest you check [[:Category:Articles with broken file links]] next time to make sure you haven't missed anything. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:56, March 16, 2020 (EDT)</s>
::Please be patient. I takes a bit to respond, and users are not active 24/7. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 19:21, August 21, 2019 (EDT)


==???==
:::Alright, though mind you, he made an edit just 2 minutes before my first post here. [[User:That Guy|That Guy]] ([[User talk:That Guy|talk]]) 19:29, August 21, 2019 (EDT)
How did you guys know that he was part of a radical hate community? Which one is it? {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}}
:The details of this are best kept within the wiki staff. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 12:20, November 18, 2021 (EST)
::Oh. No wonder. This “community” is a very bad place, isn’t it? {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}}

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