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You created [[Map 1 World]]. Do you plan to create [[Map 2 World]], [[Map 3 World]], etc.?? [[Special:Contributions/99.157.99.148|99.157.99.148]] 07:48, July 20, 2023 (EDT)
You created [[Map 1 World]]. Do you plan to create [[Map 2 World]], [[Map 3 World]], etc.?? [[Special:Contributions/99.157.99.148|99.157.99.148]] 07:48, July 20, 2023 (EDT)
:[[Map 1 World]] is the Japanese title for the musical theme heard in Grass Land. It's commonly referred to as simply "Grass Land" in English, but that title has never been made official, so that's why the article has that name. I created a page for it since it's been included in 8 different games (not counting remakes and reissues) per [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/52#Create pages with renditions of recognizable music themes|this proposal]]. The themes from the other worlds in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' have not made enough reappearances to warrant creating articles for them. [[User:ToxicOJ|ToxicOJ]] ([[User talk:ToxicOJ|talk]]) 10:16, July 20, 2023 (EDT)
:[[Map 1 World]] is the Japanese title for the musical theme heard in Grass Land. It's commonly referred to as simply "Grass Land" in English, but that title has never been made official, so that's why the article has that name. I created a page for it since it's been included in 8 different games (not counting remakes and reissues) per [[Project:Proposals/Archive 52#Create pages with renditions of recognizable music themes|this proposal]]. The themes from the other worlds in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' have not made enough reappearances to warrant creating articles for them. [[User:ToxicOJ|ToxicOJ]] ([[User talk:ToxicOJ|talk]]) 10:16, July 20, 2023 (EDT)


== Theme renditions ==
== Theme renditions ==
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:Thanks for the heads up! I'll look into it and add it to the recurring themes category and navbox if its qualifies. If it doesn't right now, I think it should under my proposal. So if that passes, I'll make the change! Thanks again! [[User:ToxicOJ|ToxicOJ]] ([[User talk:ToxicOJ|talk]]) 22:27, November 5, 2023 (EST)
:Thanks for the heads up! I'll look into it and add it to the recurring themes category and navbox if its qualifies. If it doesn't right now, I think it should under my proposal. So if that passes, I'll make the change! Thanks again! [[User:ToxicOJ|ToxicOJ]] ([[User talk:ToxicOJ|talk]]) 22:27, November 5, 2023 (EST)
::I can't check for now, but you can hear fragments of her theme in her WarioWare: Smooth Moves cutscenes. I was wrong for Ultimate. For Nintendo Badge Arcade, I must have confused it with WarioWare: Gold, sorry about that. I believe I heard it in WarioWare: D.I.Y, it must have been very short fragments, a few notes at most. --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 00:15, November 6, 2023 (EST)
::I can't check for now, but you can hear fragments of her theme in her WarioWare: Smooth Moves cutscenes. I was wrong for Ultimate. For Nintendo Badge Arcade, I must have confused it with WarioWare: Gold, sorry about that. I believe I heard it in WarioWare: D.I.Y, it must have been very short fragments, a few notes at most. --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 00:15, November 6, 2023 (EST)
:::I think I found it. In D.I.Y., it's mainly used for sound effects and short jingles for her microgames. I think this is most evident with her intermission thingy (Ashley's Mask Boutique). This video may be useful for D.I.Y. and other arrangements you may have missed: https://youtu.be/DAFhoaKtVFg?feature=shared&t=841 Do you also hear the notes or am I crazy? :p. --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 00:59, November 6, 2023 (EST)
== Additional Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.) ==
This one comes from the Game Boy Camera accessory, pretty obscure, right? Game Boy Camera - Title Screen: https://youtu.be/QeiYC9o2PyM --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 16:14, November 6, 2023 (EST)
== Additional Themes ==
I found more themes, this time they comes from the LCD games. :)
'''''Super Mario Bros.'' (Crystal Screen) (1986)''': (I believe the Special Edition (1987) and New Wide Screen (1988) version of this game sound the same. Haven't check the Mini Classics version)
*Ground Theme: https://youtu.be/vY_J1PDsfrk?feature=shared&t=24
*1-Up: https://youtu.be/vY_J1PDsfrk?feature=shared&t=71
*World Clear: https://youtu.be/vY_J1PDsfrk?feature=shared&t=106
*Underground Theme: https://youtu.be/vY_J1PDsfrk?feature=shared&t=192
*Lose a Life: https://youtu.be/vY_J1PDsfrk?feature=shared&t=365
*Princess Save: https://youtu.be/vY_J1PDsfrk?feature=shared&t=561
*Super Star?: https://youtu.be/vY_J1PDsfrk?feature=shared&t=793 (NB: this one doesn't really sound like the Super Star theme in Super Mario Bros.)
*Game Over: https://youtu.be/vY_J1PDsfrk?feature=shared&t=2122
'''''Super Mario Bros.'' (Nelsonic Game Watch)''':
*Ground Theme: https://youtu.be/tfpSNbBRIaM?feature=shared&t=50
*Super Star?: https://youtu.be/tfpSNbBRIaM?feature=shared&t=76 (NB: this one doesn't really sound like the Super Star theme in Super Mario Bros.)
*Lose a Life: https://youtu.be/tfpSNbBRIaM?feature=shared&t=86
*Game Over?: https://youtu.be/tfpSNbBRIaM?feature=shared&t=141 (NB: this one doesn't really sound like the Game Over theme in Super Mario Bros.)
'''''Super Mario Bros. 3'' (Nelsonic Game Watch)''':
*Map 1 World / Ground Theme: https://youtu.be/HHZjoV9PKt0?feature=shared&t=3
*Game Over: https://youtu.be/HHZjoV9PKt0?feature=shared&t=36
*Athletic Theme: https://youtu.be/124YrV95VXw?feature=shared&t=47
*King: https://youtu.be/124YrV95VXw?feature=shared&t=98
*King Restored: https://youtu.be/124YrV95VXw?feature=shared&t=166
*Super Star?: https://youtu.be/124YrV95VXw?feature=shared&t=352 (NB: I'm not sure about this one, it sound a little like Ice Land to me)
'''''Super Mario World'' (Nelsonic Game Watch)''':
*Title: https://youtu.be/-NsjBFVHsCQ?feature=shared&t=4
*Player Down: https://youtu.be/-NsjBFVHsCQ?feature=shared&t=10
*Game Over: https://youtu.be/-NsjBFVHsCQ?feature=shared&t=48
*???: https://youtu.be/l8-VQz-lPvc?feature=shared&t=80 (NB: I can't tell what this theme is)
*Princess Peach is Rescued?: https://youtu.be/l8-VQz-lPvc?feature=shared&t=85 (NB: '''WARNING, VERY LOUD!''', This theme is familar to me, but i don't remember which one it is)
NB: I haven't listed them, but know that some sound effects from SMB3 and SMW have their equivalent in their Nelsonic version. Since I've been here a few times, I think I'll add more things under this wall of text if I find something new so I don't have to create a new title every time. Also, I don't know if you are aware of this, but I created a talk page for [[Template:Themes]], I thought we could use it as a sandbox for future articles. I used a list you had on an old edit of your talk page as a basis, I hope you don't mind. I added the P-Switch themes from SMB3, SMW and NSMB. I think we should add anything that has at least 2 versions (the original, plus a rearrangement or remix) so we can have a complete list of tracks that have been rearranged/remixed. --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 20:16, November 8, 2023 (EST)
:Ok, I checked the Mini Classics version and although similar, there seems to be a difference.
:'''''Super Mario Bros.'' (Mini Classics)''':
:*World Clear: https://youtu.be/ZhmaaEkoHEg?feature=shared&t=5
:*Ground Theme: https://youtu.be/ZhmaaEkoHEg?feature=shared&t=9
:*Underground Theme: https://youtu.be/ZhmaaEkoHEg?feature=shared&t=11
:*Princess Save: https://youtu.be/ZhmaaEkoHEg?feature=shared&t=155
:*1-Up: https://youtu.be/ZhmaaEkoHEg?feature=shared&t=159
:*Lose a Life: https://youtu.be/ZhmaaEkoHEg?feature=shared&t=445
:*Game Over: https://youtu.be/ZhmaaEkoHEg?feature=shared&t=671
:I couldn't find a video in good quality featuring the Super Star theme. On the other hand, there is something strange, in this video: https://youtu.be/O98PhZ-Lnlg, we hear that the pitch is different and the tempo is not the same. Does each different colored Mini Classic sound different? Is this related to the aging of the consoles, is it a battery issue, or are there multiple revisions for the Mini Classics. I don't know. --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 01:23, November 9, 2023 (EST)
::I forgot about Mario the Juggler. Also, I wonder if the alarm we hear in Super Mario Bros. (Game & Watch) https://youtu.be/VT6E2DJbBgk is supposed to be an arrangement of this? https://youtu.be/mPNeaE-u6JM I can't say for sure, maybe it's a excerpt from another SMB theme, who knows.
::'''''Mario the Juggler''''':
::*Ground Theme: https://youtu.be/NwBDFTRqfyg?feature=shared&t=32
::*World Clear: https://youtu.be/NwBDFTRqfyg?feature=shared&t=478
::*Game Over: https://youtu.be/NwBDFTRqfyg?feature=shared&t=1199
::When I'm comfortable enough with MAME, I'll record everything I listed above with Audacity. --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 03:45, November 19, 2023 (EST)
== About proposal. ==
Hey, I just wanted to give my idea on how to deal with regional differences on music (Based on the 50hz/PAL and 60hz/NTSC differences talk). Perhaps you could list those differences under the same header? Like the Ground Theme (SMB1) ((PAL game on NTSC console)/(NTSC game on NTSC console)/(PAL game on PAL console)/((NTSC game on PAL console/Toploader on PAL console)) under the header the OG theme goes under? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:05, November 13, 2023 (CST)
:Personally, I think we should stick to the unmodified versions of these themes. So no PAL game on NTSC console or vice versa. I think putting the PAL versions next to their ("normal") NTSC version would be nice for our readers so they can hear the difference without having to go to Youtube. --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 04:01, November 19, 2023 (EST)
::It's been a few days, but I personally agree with you, but also I wouldn't say PAL on NTSC or NTSC on PAL are MODIFIED, per SE. It's still an unmodified game and unmodified console. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:05, November 13, 2023 (CST)
:::Well no, you have to cut one of the CIC lock chip pins with tweezers on your console if you want your NTSC/PAL games to work. So you need to at least modify your console. Regardless, even assuming you no longer have to do this, Nintendo never intended for you to bypass this region-locked protection. That's why I think it shouldn't count. Then again, I suppose an argument could be made for the NES Toploader which has no region-locked protection and was released in the US, Japan and Australia?, the latter being in the PAL region. --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 05:23, November 27, 2023 (EST)
::::Still, if the NES Toploader can be included, that's just the same as PAL on NTSC, so you wouldn't be able to exclude NTSC on PAL. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 08:11, November 27, 2023 (CST)
== B-side album edit ==
Hi! Sorry, I should have said this first, oops. To clarify [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Nintendo_Sound_Selection_Vol.3:_B-Side_Music&diff=next&oldid=4045935 this edit], I do know Japanese, and "Background" isn't the intent of what 裏の地上 means. 裏 means "back", but more generally means "reverse", "alternate", "hidden", etc. Basically, the side of something that isn't seen at first. And 地上 means "ground", but it's always translated in the ''Zelda'' series distinctly as "Overworld", rather than "Ground" as the ''Mario'' series does. So you could translate it as "back ground" (not "background", as in a backdrop), but it's more accurate to say that it means the "Alternate Overworld", hence the translation used on VGMDB. I hope that makes sense! If there's any issues, feel free to get back to me. [[User:DryKirby64|DryKirby64]] ([[User talk:DryKirby64|talk]]) 22:46, November 13, 2023 (EST)
== RE: LINE sticker set audio files ==
They are all named as <tt>sticker_sound.m4a</tt> in the source code of the pages. {{User:Blhte/sig}} 08:10, November 27, 2023 (EST)
== Big thanks for using my old Gang-Plank Galleon article! ==
Late thanks, but yeah. I'm happy to see that my article didn't come to waste. I made without even having the knowledge of the rules as they weren't really well known and I only knew vaguely about eight pieces of music being allowed through another user's profile. [[User:TheUndescribableGhost|TheUndescribableGhost]] ([[User talk:TheUndescribableGhost|talk]]) 12:56, December 4, 2023 (EST)

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