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== RE: Reddit == | == RE: Reddit == | ||
I'll admit, we got ourselves a grey area or blurred line when it comes to fan content related to the page [[List of Mario references on the Internet]]. Would a policy page contain rules on what is allowed fan creations? Where would that be? It seems to be unwritten word what is allowed and disallowed. {{tem| | I'll admit, we got ourselves a grey area or blurred line when it comes to fan content related to the page [[List of Mario references on the Internet]]. Would a policy page contain rules on what is allowed fan creations? Where would that be? It seems to be unwritten word what is allowed and disallowed. {{tem|Wikipolicy}} --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:25, 10 March 2018 (EST) | ||
:Then again, at the very top of the page, <code>This list does not include fan-made works dedicated to the Mario franchise and its games, nor does it include walkthroughs of Mario games.</code> --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:27, 10 March 2018 (EST) | :Then again, at the very top of the page, <code>This list does not include fan-made works dedicated to the Mario franchise and its games, nor does it include walkthroughs of Mario games.</code> --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:27, 10 March 2018 (EST) | ||
::I consider Reddit more of a fancy blog, news feed, fan art, discussion, etc., run by a community of fans more than anything. It's the slippery slope fallacy I am seeing keeping Reddit as content for the page, meaning we would need to include all sorts of fanmade website content. Too numerous. We need written word if we should continue this. What should the rules be? Ultimately, when we think "reference", we think "small nod to a series", which Nintendo-themed Subreddits are far from small nods. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:36, 10 March 2018 (EST) | ::I consider Reddit more of a fancy blog, news feed, fan art, discussion, etc., run by a community of fans more than anything. It's the slippery slope fallacy I am seeing keeping Reddit as content for the page, meaning we would need to include all sorts of fanmade website content. Too numerous. We need written word if we should continue this. What should the rules be? Ultimately, when we think "reference", we think "small nod to a series", which Nintendo-themed Subreddits are far from small nods. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:36, 10 March 2018 (EST) | ||
:::Posts on Reddit are like thread submissions on [[ | :::Posts on Reddit are like thread submissions on [[forum:1|Mario Boards]] or any forum ever. Content like this can be created at will, which exist in the billions or trillions. Maybe even more. Fan-created subs and threads are not formal references to the Mario series. As a side note, we don't even accept fan theories, which would clash with [[MarioWiki:Canonicity|canonicity policy]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:49, 10 March 2018 (EST) | ||
::::It just furthers my point of needing some sort of policy page or revision to the canonicity policy page. [[MarioWiki:Fan content]]; what should be allowed/disallowed and how to handle it (mix it with articles, separate articles, etc.). If you insist on keeping the Reddit part, I suggest creating a new page in a similar manner as [[List of rumors and urban legends about Mario]]. I also suggest starting a discussion on the Mario Boards or the Discord server to get input from other users if we should have a policy about fan content. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:57, 10 March 2018 (EST) | ::::It just furthers my point of needing some sort of policy page or revision to the canonicity policy page. [[MarioWiki:Fan content]]; what should be allowed/disallowed and how to handle it (mix it with articles, separate articles, etc.). If you insist on keeping the Reddit part, I suggest creating a new page in a similar manner as [[List of rumors and urban legends about Mario]]. I also suggest starting a discussion on the Mario Boards or the Discord server to get input from other users if we should have a policy about fan content. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:57, 10 March 2018 (EST) | ||
:::::I endorse Wildgoosespeeder here. An example of actual references on websites are 404 errors, such as those on IGN or Twitch. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:07, 10 March 2018 (EST) | :::::I endorse Wildgoosespeeder here. An example of actual references on websites are 404 errors, such as those on IGN or Twitch. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 17:07, 10 March 2018 (EST) | ||
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Hi, Time Turner. Some things have come up, and we have need of your books. | Hi, Time Turner. Some things have come up, and we have need of your books. | ||
1) In ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' Ver. 2.0.0., there is a guidance for Piranha Plant, contrary to the previous game where downloadable characters didn't get their own clips. In it, Viridi gives the name "Nipper Dandelion" to Watage Pakkun. Nipper Dandelion happens to be the previous title of the article, where it was marked as conjectural. Now, I've been | 1) In ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' Ver. 2.0.0., there is a guidance for Piranha Plant, contrary to the previous game where downloadable characters didn't get their own clips. In it, Viridi gives the name "Nipper Dandelion" to Watage Pakkun. Nipper Dandelion happens to be the previous title of the article, where it was marked as conjectural. Now, I've been assured that Nipper Dandelion was likely straightforward, but I still have my suspicions that the wiki was referenced again because she also bluntly calls one of the variations "Ghosts" (which I feel personally responsible for because I doubt it was the intent of the ''Smash for'' writer, even though it's not ''technically'' wrong). So, can you double-check your ''Yoshi's Island DS'' guides just to confirm if Nipper Dandelion was indeed conjectural? There's a discussion about the guidance [[Talk:Piranha Plant#This is the Ultimate|here]] if you want to weigh in. | ||
2) [[Bullet Bill#Super Mario Sunshine|In Bullet Bill's ''Super Mario Sunshine'' section]], the names "Blue Bullet Bill" and "Crazy Bullet Bill" are mentioned. As far as I can tell, these refer to the Bullet Bills used by Bowser Jr., which home in like Monty Mole's Purple Bullet Bill, even though ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' only mentions the former. Can you tell us if these are referenced in any of the guides, and if their descriptions better set them apart from Purple Bullet Bill? It might be worth making new articles over it. | 2) [[Bullet Bill#Super Mario Sunshine|In Bullet Bill's ''Super Mario Sunshine'' section]], the names "Blue Bullet Bill" and "Crazy Bullet Bill" are mentioned. As far as I can tell, these refer to the Bullet Bills used by Bowser Jr., which home in like Monty Mole's Purple Bullet Bill, even though ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' only mentions the former. Can you tell us if these are referenced in any of the guides, and if their descriptions better set them apart from Purple Bullet Bill? It might be worth making new articles over it. | ||
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Thanks in advance. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:30, 30 January 2019 (EST) | Thanks in advance. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:30, 30 January 2019 (EST) | ||
:Also would you check out where is [[Stackin' Stu]] official? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:05, 30 January 2019 (EST) | :Also would you check out where is [[Stackin' Stu]] official? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:05, 30 January 2019 (EST) | ||