Editing User talk:Nightwicked Bowser

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==Archives==
Can't be bothered to do a fancy design for this like most others do :p<br>
[[User talk:Nightwicked Bowser/Archive 1]]<br>
[[User talk:Nightwicked Bowser/Archive 2]]

== RE: Nominating a character article to be a FA ==

So back on March 6, I [https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Featured_articles/N/Dr._Crygor nominated a character article] to be featured on this very wiki. But as of today, it has not gotten any single response aside from mine. What is up with that?
{{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 08:17, March 9, 2023 (EST)
:It's really just a matter of whether people see that it has a nomination going or not. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 09:48, March 9, 2023 (EST)

==Mario Movie Gallery Question==
Hi there, [[User:Marino13|This user]] threatened to report me if I undo their edits. It stemmed from a misunderstanding over at the [[Gallery:The Super Mario Bros. Movie|Mario Mover Gallery]]. It truly was not my intention to cause any trouble, I'm just doing my best to clarify the context of the art. Hope everything can be sorted out!

[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 10:03, March 9, 2023 (EST)

== Help with Images ==

Hello, I should have been more specific. I don't know how to get the images from my Switch to my laptop. - [[User:Luigi 1837]]

Thank you! I didn't know about the function. - [[User:Luigi 1837]]

Hello, can you please help me? I'm trying to make the [[Minecraft]] Blocks and Items list into a gallery with all of the images, but I'm having trouble making it. How can I do it? - [[User:Luigi 1837]]

Thank you for the info! I'll firstly finish uploading all of the images I have and then I'll go though them and add the licensing and other info. Another thing, should I get images for the characters too? - [[User:Luigi 1837]] P.S.- By any chance do you know how to change the background color of user pages, because I've been wanting to change my user pages background color, but don't know how to.
:I believe there are images for the characters in Minecraft already, and as for your userpage color I'm not sure how to do that either. You should probably ask someone who has done that with their userpage. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 12:27, March 15, 2023 (EDT)

That's good, because it would be a painful process of going through them and adding the licensing and categories, I'll ask about the coloring to someone else. I'm not sure if the character images are uploaded, because they've been asked for in the spotlight. Thanks for the help! -[[User:Luigi 1837]] P.S. Is there by any chance a way to upload multiple images at once or is it only possible by doing one at a time?

Sorry, if I have broken a rule or something! I didn't realize I had broken a rule. I thought it would be easier to just upload the images first and then go through and add the categories. I'm still new to the wiki, so I'm really sorry for breaking a rule! I'm going to ask you now about the descriptions, do I have to fill them in also or can I just fill in the licensing and categories? I don't want to break another rule. -[[User:Luigi 1837]]
:The descriptions should be filled in too (wasn't sure if there was a reminder template relating to that as well), and any parameters that you won't use can be removed. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:39, March 15, 2023 (EDT)

And does the artist section have to be filled too or not, because I don't know who to wright in it. -[[User:Luigi 1837]]
:If it's an in-game screenshot, then the parameter can be removed. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:46, March 15, 2023 (EDT)

:Sorry, can you please explain what did you mean with removing the parameter, and does it have to be removed? And sorry, but I still didn't understand what I need to wright in the parameter. -[[User:Luigi 1837]]
: Can you please check if I've done the info and things on the images correctly, when you've got time, Thanks! I'll be uploading the last images tomorrow, then making the gallery. I'm really sorry again for breaking a rule by mistake! -[[User:Luigi 1837]]
:The three edits I did on the images just now show what I mean. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 16:30, March 15, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks! I'll keep that in mind. I'll make the changes tomorrow. -[[User:Luigi 1837]]

== My featured article nom. ==

[[MarioWiki:Featured_articles/N/Dr. Crygor|It]] has already passed the 19:28 schedule, when the article would get feech'd. Can you please incorportate the fa status into the affected article? Thank you {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 19:37, March 30, 2023 (EDT)
:You can put the featured template on the article the moment the nomination is over and passed. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 20:08, March 30, 2023 (EDT)

== It had to be said ==

Your own username makes [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=1197813 this block] infinitely funnier than what would have otherwise been bland immaturity. Along with the word "block" being there. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 11:40, April 4, 2023 (EDT)
:Honestly I'm not sure whether to feel embarressed or amused by this, especially since the reason behind my username is actually explained on my userpage. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 11:48, April 4, 2023 (EDT)

== Props! ==

Props for the promotion, you definitely earned it through your hard work on this wiki!—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 07:21, April 6, 2023 (EDT)
:Thank you for the kind words. I'll be honest, there's something that happened outside the wiki which I'd rather not talk about here, and I'm not in a very good way right now. Really wish things were better, just might take it easy for a little while. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 07:27, April 7, 2023 (EDT)

== Question 4 Ya ==

What happened to Mario Wiki on April 1? Was it vandalized? ˜˜˜˜Sunny12345

== Updating MarioWiki:References ==

Due to two proposals which passed last year, one of which was by you, [[MarioWiki:References]] needs to be updated. I left the suggestions in its [[MarioWiki talk:References|talk page]].--[[User:Platform|Platform]] ([[User talk:Platform|talk]]) 12:00, April 21, 2023 (EDT)


== Question ==

Hey, I was just going to ignore this and I already message Waluigi Time about it, but this [[User:Marino13|user]] is making backhanded comments about me and I'm not entirely sure how to handle the situation. It started when they deleted a message off my talk page that I simply reverted as I want to respect that messages should not be removed from talk pages. I haven't been on much because of other commitments so I simply said on my user page I wasn't editing much. Now every time I made small edits such as in the gallery for [[Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope]] , [[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User:Marino13&curid=200372&diff=3911137&oldid=3885397]]they [[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Gallery:Mario_%2B_Rabbids_Sparks_of_Hope&diff=prev&oldid=3911130]]are [[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=John_Leguizamo&diff=prev&oldid=3910000]]using edit summaries to call me out on this, when I feel I have not done anything pernsonal to them except ask politely to not remove messages from my talk page. Thanks for your time.

[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 11:46, May 10, 2023 (EDT)
:That kind of behaviour definitely isn't acceptable, staff is currently deciding how to handle it. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 12:10, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

::Thank you so much, have a nice day! [[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 12:12, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

== Re: Merge templates ==

As i'm not as active as i once was, nor do i check up on pages that regularly, i couldn't know about that proposal. Thanks for letting me know. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:13, July 3, 2023 (EDT)
:Does it also apply to removing something from a page, like the Piranha Plant king? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:28, July 20, 2023 (EDT)

==Re:Move templates==
I'm sorry, but some of these are either policy-driven or self-evident, and thus don't require much of any discussion to begin with, just routine second-guessing the information present in the articles. All it does is slow down or obfuscate sensible moves that would have been made a while ago by editors more familiar with those subjects. What happens if discussion stalls anyway? We just leave certain outstanding changes to obscurity? I don't really get it since the meta category templates were hidden for a reason, I presume. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:18, July 23, 2023 (EDT)
:The proposal didn't account for any exceptions, so either there's a discussion somewhere or the template doesn't go on the page, simple as that. The template gets removed if said discussion is deemed inactive. If anyone more familiar with these subjects comes across these and wants to move them, then it would be up to them to bring it up in the talk page and put the template on the article. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 13:34, July 23, 2023 (EDT)
::I need a little more clarification. Are you saying it's necessary for every article that dropped those templates to have their discussions (re)opened? That's not what I'm seeing in the proposal. It's just about the use of the templates. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:47, July 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::Yes it is. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 13:54, July 23, 2023 (EDT)
::::I'm going to ask the proposer about it, then, because I simply do not see that explanation in the proposal. If that was within the scope of the proposal and I was aware of it, I would have been vehemently against it, for the reasons I've outlined. I think it's just an extra hurdle for everyone with little gain. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:07, July 23, 2023 (EDT)
:::::Actually, it probably wouldn't if you would just go ahead and move the page, but the template still shouldn't stay there without any action being taken. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:28, July 23, 2023 (EDT)

== A question about sandbox pages ==
In my sandbox page, is there a way to remove the redirect to my userpage (e.g. < [[User:Pizza Master]]) or otherwise make it invisible?--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 17:26, August 16, 2023 (EDT)
:I don't think there is, every user subpage I've looked at has it. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 18:39, August 16, 2023 (EDT)
K. Thank you for checking anyway.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 21:44, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

== Re: Vandal engagement ==

That wasn't necessarily aimed at them specifically, but moreso about the vandalism itself, but ok. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:09, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

== Re:Super Mario World 2 Italian names ==

Either it was LOOONG time ago (back when I took it more lightly), or I have no idea what you're talking about. The most recent mistake is maybe the [[Sluggy]], which I just recalled badly was named "Peluria", but then I rechecked the game footage of SMA3 and Kamek was like "Let's see how you deal with this "Sguscio"." which I then fixed. Any examples of this, for references? {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 08:46, August 26, 2023 (EDT)

:I made some tiny digging: no, the few times I added Italian names for the enemies that appeared in SMW2YI, I did use the names from other games (YIDS, YNI, YWW and YCW) nothing invented. Might have been two tiny cases in the past (something like "well, we have [[Skeleton Goonie|Skeletro Gabby]] and [[Flightless Goonie|Gabby senz'ali]] so of course the "[[Flightless Skeleton Goonie]]" must be "Skeletro Gabby senz'ali" even tho it isn't written anywhere else." [I tended to mix Wiki's and Wikia's less strict rules]), but those have been rolledback due to lack of official references. Nothing more to it. {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 11:22, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

== The Southern Portion of Toad Town Being Accessible After Bowser's Defeat ==

During "Paper Mario (2001)", would the southern portion of Toad Town be accessible following Bowser's defeat?--[[User:Carlitosbug|Carlitosbug]] ([[User talk:Carlitosbug|talk]]) 23:19, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

== Paper Macho Soldiers ==
Are Paper Macho Soldiers a species?
[[User:RosalinaFanboi777|RosalinaFanboi777]] ([[User talk:RosalinaFanboi777|talk]]) 06:00, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure a while back I removed "Paper Macho" from being a species in infoboxes, would be preferable to just list their species as what enemy they're based off. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 06:41, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
::How so? [[User:RosalinaFanboi777|RosalinaFanboi777]] ([[User talk:RosalinaFanboi777|talk]]) 10:11, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
:::"Paper Macho" isn't a species either, it's more of an enemy class in the game like how Folded Soldiers are what you fight in battles and Paper Macho enemies you fight in the field. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 10:59, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

== Edit question ==

Hello Swallow. Why did you revert my recent edits? Not angry, just curious. [[User:RosalinaFanboi777|RosalinaFanboi777]] ([[User talk:RosalinaFanboi777|talk]]) 14:57, October 22, 2023 (EDT)
:I did leave an edit summary in the first one, that we should avoid overusing the category just because the place has lava in it. I don't really agree with what the category page itself says either, I'd rather it was used for actual volcano areas. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 15:01, October 22, 2023 (EDT)
::Fair enough, would advise you provide an explanation such as "Explained in my edit summary on X's page" to avoid any confusion. What should the category say? [[User:RosalinaFanboi777|RosalinaFanboi777]] ([[User talk:RosalinaFanboi777|talk]]) 15:10, October 22, 2023 (EDT)
:::I'm thinking of having it as "Volcanoes throughout the ''Super Mario'' franchise". As this would change the scope of the category, it may require a proposal first. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 15:16, October 22, 2023 (EDT)

== Renders ==

Hey there, I saw Yoshi and Blue Toad's infobox images updated with renders that hold a Red Shell. Is the policy correct in that the images should be just the character if possible? I know Nabbit's was updated for Wonder though he is holding a mushroom, I don't want to engage with reverting Yoshi's and Blue Toad's pages anymore to not cause an edit war, and thought bringing it up could help resolve this, thanks!

[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 21:37, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
:I don't mind using the images of them holding the red shells for the same reason Doc von Schmeltwick said about Nabbit with the mushroom, that the red shell is an iconic item throughout the Mario franchise and doesn't really specialise the game in any way. The rule about items only really applies if said item is specifically for the game or series such as sports gear or the ''Mario + Rabbids'' weapons. Luigi's SMBW artwork however I think is a hard no since that shows him using the Parachute Cap ability which is exclusive to the game, and Luigi's hat is never that big. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 05:26, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

::Understood 
[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 10:22, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

== Can my MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount account please finally be unbanned? I think it's time my account gets unblocked. ==

I think it's time for it to be unbanned. It has been '''way''' too long. [[Special:Contributions/107.146.224.187|107.146.224.187]] 00:30, October 27, 2023 And my MarioBoards account needs to be unbanned. I also need to put loads of stuff and edit pages. 2099 is '''way far''' too long. It's also laughable that I got banned until that date, since that is waaaaaay too long. It's also time that I get unblocked, since I regret doing the stuff that got me banned. (EDT)

:You can send a formal appeal to mwikisysops@gmail.com

:{{User:Shokora/sig}} 04:11, October 27, 2023 (EDT)

== WarioWare Renders ==

Hey, quick question, some renders for the WarioWare characters (specifically [[Jimmy T]], [[18-Volt]], [[Dribble & Spitz]], and [[13-Amp]], had new renders for Move It! but got reverted. Do you think the renders are fine or should the renders from Get it Together stay there for now? I think the Move It renders are fine but would rather not edit war about them. Thanks! I also let Ray Trace know but thought it wouldn't hurt to spread the question around.

[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 10:21, November 3, 2023 (EDT)
:I've never played any of the WarioWare games so I'm not too sure how to go about this one. I don't even know if these characters do have a consistant design. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 10:37, November 3, 2023 (EDT)

::I just remember Dr. Crygor having a different design every game and Mona wearing a different outfit every game, and their infoboxes were updated consistently per game. I don't see a reason not to use the new Move It renders with that knowledge. I thinks its an IP account that reverted but I'm not sure if a discussion should be made first. I do know that Jimmy T's render was used on the new website Nintendo of Japan made for the WarioWare series in general.
[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 10:42, November 3, 2023 (EDT)

== Question ==

Hey there, [[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mr._Sparkles&type=revision&diff=4040646&oldid=4040643|This user]] used rude an unnecessarily rude tone in the edit summary, I'm not trying to cause any trouble, I simply removed the information because there is not a direct confirmation that a character that looks like Mr. Sparkles in WarioWare reappears in Move It.

[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 18:56, November 7, 2023 (EST)
:Sorry to say this, but I'd rather not get involved in a dispute concerning a game or series I barely know anything about (there's a list of games/series in my userpage I do concern myself with). I don't even really pay attention to what edits go on in that field. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 19:06, November 7, 2023 (EST)

::No worries [[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 19:09, November 7, 2023 (EST)

== Alpha Kretin Discussion ==

Swallow, I was wondering, if Starlow fought Alpha [[Kretin]] alongside Mario instead of Luigi, how would Starlow dodge the energy balls and electricity? What do you think?
[[Special:Contributions/68.36.171.174|68.36.171.174]] 20:44, November 8, 2023 (EST)

== Enemy Profile ==

Hello Swallow. Thank you for your tip about Italic text. I have a question. When I look at the enemies and bosses that appear in Mario RPG titles, there are enemy profiles that contain information like HP, Defense, Weaknesses etc. I was wondering, how do you make one of those? --[[User:Darksouless1|Darksouless1]] ([[User talk:Darksouless1|talk]]) 11:01, November 20, 2023 (EST)
:I'm no expert on the subject, but several Super Mario RPG enemy articles already do have a stat table for the remake which is taken directly from the game's monster list. You could just copy and paste the code from those tables and change what's in the table itself to fit the article you're putting it into. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 11:23, November 20, 2023 (EST)

== RE: RE: RPG lists question. ==

Ok, I can change the names right now, but the images will have to wait until I get around to play the remake. It will take time to get to it since I just completed Chapter 1 of PM64. --[[User:Mid188|Mid188]] ([[User talk:Mid188|talk]]) 12:59, November 26, 2023 (EST)
:That's fine, though I should mention that all [[Hidden Treasure]]s are also exactly the same for both locations and items in the remake so that should also be one page for both versions. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 13:58, November 26, 2023 (EST)

Ok, I will do Hidden too, when I get there. And regarding the Mushroom Ball remake images - Yeah, I can do that too.--[[User:Mid188|Mid188]] ([[User talk:Mid188|talk]]) 14:06, November 26, 2023 (EST)

Hi, writing here to answer your message: I do not mind if you want to split the pages. Ask the staff if they allow it and do it if you want, I have more lists to do (Paper Jam one right now), so I do not have time. --[[User:Mid188|Mid188]] ([[User talk:Mid188|talk]]) 00:56, April 7, 2024 (EDT)
:EDIT: Sorry, I have not realized you were staff yourself, so disregard the asking part of the message. --[[User:Mid188|Mid188]] ([[User talk:Mid188|talk]]) 01:03, April 7, 2024 (EDT)

So, I think I can do the splitting of the Dream Team Blocks page now, just one thing before I start: How do we name the two new pages? List of block in real/dream world in Mario & Luigi: Dream Team or something else? Afterwards, I can start work on the remakes. --[[User:Mid188|Mid188]] ([[User talk:Mid188|talk]]) 16:47, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
:Best I can think of is "List of real/dream world blocks in Mario & Luigi: Dream Team". {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 16:57, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
::Ok, then. I'll get to work. --[[User:Mid188|Mid188]] ([[User talk:Mid188|talk]]) 16:58, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
:::Something like this? (check my sandbox) --[[User:Mid188|Mid188]] ([[User talk:Mid188|talk]]) 18:03, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
::::Looks good to me. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 19:24, May 12, 2024 (EDT)

== Thank you for deleting that ==

Just wanted to send my thank you for deleting the History of Thwomps page, as I had noticed my mistake with creating too many history pages. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 09:20, December 10, 2023 (EST)

== On the lookalikes proposal ==

We saw that proposal passed, and in the archive, it's marked as done; however, we did notice a few pages are currently present in the categories that we did mention in our tremendous breakdown. So um, here we be, to ask if it's fine if we cull the following:
* Every instance of a shapeshifter should be moved to the shapeshifter category if they aren't there already. (e.g. [[Shadoo]], [[Belome]], or Ditto)
* Every instance of a clone that can look(a)like anybody, not just one character, should be moved to clones (e.g. [[Bubble Clone]] or [[Imposter]])
* Fighting Polygons
* [[Gold Mini Mario]] from Mario
* Luigi should be removed from Mario's category.
* Wario should be removed from Mario's category.
* Waluigi should be removed from Luigi's category.
* [[Bowser Suit]] from Bowser
* [[King Boo]] from Bowser
* [[Koopa Zombie]] from Bowser
* [[Wooden cutout]] from Bowser and Peach
* [[Princess Shroob]] from Peach
* [[Funky Kong]] from DK
* [[Super Kong]] from DK
* [[Swanky Kong]] from DK
* ...and we might literally give [[Eddie the Mean Old Yeti]] his own proposal sometime in the near future, because as we've mentioned, he drives us insane to think about.
Is it alright with you if we remove these from the lookalikes categories? {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 12:41, December 28, 2023 (EST)
:I think all of those should be ommited from the lookalikes categories (just pointing out Belome is not a shapeshifter but creates clones of the playable characters to fight alongside him). {{User:Swallow/sig}} 12:50, December 28, 2023 (EST)
::Oh, our bad! Admittedly, we're not ''too'' familiar with Belome's fight, so those just kinda melded in our brain with the 2,763 other redirects for bosses that are proper shapeshifters (cough cough [[Shadoo]]). <s>we also blame the between christmas-and-new years brainfog</s>. While we're here though, we should also probably ask about [[Cursed Mini Mario]], seeing as we forgot to bring him up initially and figure he's probably safe to remove if [[Gold Mini Mario]] also got the boot; after all, what makes him "Cursed" is the monkey robot, which um. Is not resembling Mario by any means. ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 14:12, December 28, 2023 (EST)
:::I removed Cursed Mini Mario from the category for you. You can thank me later. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 12:49, December 31, 2023 (EST)
::::That one was from a game I know nothing about. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 13:12, December 31, 2023 (EST)
:::::Heads up: Administrator Mario added [[Luigi]] back to [[:Category:Mario lookalikes]] with the reason that "[he] probably qualifies". Though I haven't mentioned it before, I agree with Camwoodstock that Luigi should be left out of that category. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 00:05, January 3, 2024 (EST)
:Hi, I unknowingly added a few of these back to their categories, not realizing there was a proposal about this. Sorry about that. The discussion pages for the various lookalike categories were mostly empty and I only realized I had rolled back on previous users' edits when two of mine were tagged as manual reverts. I'm not very familiar with how proposals are done here so it took me a while to find this page. I'm also completely new to using talk pages, so you'll have to bear with me here.

:Can someone direct me to the breakdown where all of this is explained? I think it would be good if the category pages themselves made it clear what exactly qualifies as a "lookalike". I don't really see the issue with a clone also being considered a lookalike, or with characters like Luigi, [[Wario]], [[Waluigi]], or the [[Koopa Zombie]]s being included, as the categories are quite small and don't seem likely to become overly cluttered to me. Also, to what extent can inanimate objects be considered lookalikes? [[:Category:Bowser lookalikes]] contains several statues, including ones that don't move at all, so should the [[Papercraft]] versions of characters from [[Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam|Paper Jam]] count as well?

:Category:Bowser lookalikes also includes [[False Bowser]] from [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], so should the other Shadow Bug versions of characters from that game (Mario, Luigi, and Peach) also count?

:It should also be noted that [[Shadoo]] isn't a shapeshifter, but an unseen character who creates clones for the player to fight. Don't know if they should be in [[:Category:Clones]] or if each of their page redirects (Dark Mario, Dark Peach, etc.) should be added to the category instead. [[User:TyGuy24|TyGuy24]] ([[User talk:TyGuy24|talk]]) 01:27, February 6, 2024 (EST)
::[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/64#Rework the "lookalikes" categories|This is the proposal in question]].{{User:Swallow/sig}} 05:48, February 6, 2024 (EST)
::The proposal called for shapeshifters to be exempt and also to exclude Luigi, Wario and Waluigi. I'm not familiar with Super Smash Bros. Brawl at all but it does look like the False characters could qualify, along with the papercrafts. I may also need to give some thought to Shadoo's clones. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 06:03, February 6, 2024 (EST)

:::Okay, thanks, I think that proposal cleared some stuff up for me. I went ahead and added the Papercrafts, as well as False Peach from Brawl. Both her and False Bowser appear in cutscenes and play a role in the story of Subspace Emissary to some extent. The rest of the False Characters (including False Mario, Luigi, and Donkey Kong) are fought near the end of the game, are only seen in gameplay, and look different from the False Characters that appear in earlier cutscenes. These False Characters are instances of clones that can look like (almost) anybody in the game, so I didn't add them to Mario's, [[:Category:Luigi lookalikes|Luigi's]], or [[:Category:Donkey Kong lookalikes|Donkey Kong's]] lookalike categories.

:::Although Shadoo's clones can be considered an instance of "clones that can look like anybody", I'm not sure they should be removed from the lookalike categories. There's only four playable characters in the game, and the [[Cosmic Clone]]s as well as [[Cosmic Mario|Cosmic Mario/Luigi]] are both considered to be lookalikes, despite copying both playable characters.

:::[[Bowser Jr.]] resembles [[Baby Bowser]] more than [[Koopa Kid]] does, so I think he should remain in Category:Bowser lookalikes.

:::I'm considering editing the category pages to specify that "lookalikes" have to be intentionally and heavily designed after the characters which they resemble, and should include "doppelgangers" and "copies" of characters. Does that sound right to you?

:::Also, something interesting to consider are Mario Bros-esque characters like [[Cork and Cask]], the [[Starshade Bros.]], the [[Hammerhead Bros.]], and the [[Big Massif|Massif]] [[Lil' Massif|Bros.]] Although they don't really fit into [[:Category:Mario lookalikes]] or Category:Luigi lookalikes individually (Cork, Sledge, General Starshade, and Big Massif don't look much like Mario on their own, while Cask, Mallet, Sergeant Starshade, and Lil' Massif also don't look much like Luigi), as pairs they are definitely still meant to resemble the Mario Bros. Maybe they have a place in the general [[:Category:Lookalikes|lookalikes category]]? [[User:TyGuy24|TyGuy24]] ([[User talk:TyGuy24|talk]]) 02:02, February 8, 2024 (EST)

== Category:Thieves cleanup ==

There's been a lot of impetus to clean up categories lately, hasn't there? One I think could use a look at is [[:Category:Thieves]]. Right now, it's not in the greatest state. It's an odd mix of occupational thieves and villians who steal as part of their greater evil plans. Not to mention we have all seven Koopalings ''and'' the general [[Koopalings]] page in there — why not just include [[:Category:Koopalings]] as a subcategory? There was [[Category talk:Thieves|brief talk of cleanup from late 2017 through early 2018]], though no action was made on it. I agree with Doc von Schmeltwick's suggestion of trimming the definition to just chronic and/or occupational thieves, though. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 12:26, January 8, 2024 (EST)
:Saw Antasma there almost immediately and yeah, this may need sorting out too. Best idea would be characters who commonly act as thieves like Croco, Popple and Ms Mowz, though I'm not sure how we are going to go about this. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 16:43, January 8, 2024 (EST)
::Again, that's the definition I'm vouching for, but we'll need more feedback before we launch a proposal. I'll let Camwoodstock and Doc von Schmeltwick know. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 17:05, January 8, 2024 (EST)
:::We can give it a quick look! But uh, should we put our feedback in the category's talkpage? That way this can hopefully be outside of a random user's talkpage for ease of finding it. ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 19:14, January 8, 2024 (EST)
::::Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem. We're working with just one category and not five, after all. It'd make it easier for us to transition into a proposal, too. By the way, [[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick#Feedback for cleaning up Category:Thieves|Doc von Schmeltwick remains on board with trimming the category's definition]]. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 19:21, January 8, 2024 (EST)
:::::Camwoodstock's ''looooong'' dissection has been posted to [[Category talk:Thieves|the category talk page]]. Now it's time to move discussion over there. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 20:54, January 8, 2024 (EST)
:I hate to repeat myself, but I'm waiting for your response to Camwoodstock's dissection on Category:Thieves. [[Category talk:Thieves|Here's the talk page.]] [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 14:34, January 11, 2024 (EST)
::I haven't been paying attention to the discussion. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:41, January 11, 2024 (EST)

== Elemental category stuff ==

Hey, I noticed you implementing that SMRPG category proposal, and that makes sense, but I feel like some of these removals feel a bit overcorrect-ish. I mean, the original elemental category proposal had an exception for stuff like Bowser being associated with fire due to his fire breath, but then you have [[Muckle]], which only attacks with ice, is resistant to ice, and drops an ice-related item, and it was removed from [[:Category:Ice creatures]]. Same with [[Bahamutt]] being removed from [[:Category:Fire creatures]]. I'm not sure how to end this comment, sorry, I guess, would it be okay to re-add those? [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 14:28, January 15, 2024 (EST)
:I didn't want to have anything that could be arbitrary about this (e.g if enemies had resistances or used a lot of those types of attacks), so I'd still rather have the categories ommited from those for the sake of caution. I left fire creatures on Czar Dragon since it is made of Lava Babbles. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 14:53, January 15, 2024 (EST)

== Swallow![[User:NEMRISE1294|NEMRISE1294]] ([[User talk:NEMRISE1294|talk]]) 23:14, February 24, 2024 (EST) ==

What do you mean discussion is forum talk then?[[User:NEMRISE1294|NEMRISE1294]] ([[User talk:NEMRISE1294|talk]]) 23:14, February 24, 2024 (EST)
:You were told already that talk pages are only for discussing article changes and your last comment confirmed that it was just casual talk about the subject, which is removed on sight. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 05:28, February 25, 2024 (EST)

==Photos of the 3-4 errors from the Prima Guide==

On the Fandom Mario Wiki, I found pictures showing the exit flag color error for World 3-4 in the Prima Guide. Here is the reference: [https://mario.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Flagpole]
[[Special:Contributions/24.127.7.223|24.127.7.223]] 19:47, February 25, 2024 (EST)
:World 3-4 of which game? {{User:Swallow/sig}} 20:40, February 25, 2024 (EST)
::The New Super Mario Bros. Wii game.[[Special:Contributions/24.127.7.223|24.127.7.223]] 20:43, February 25, 2024 (EST)
:::Did you see my request? It is [[World 3-4 (New Super Mario Bros. Wii)|World 3-4]] from [[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]. This fandom wiki gave you the photos you need to show the flag color errors from the [[Prima Games]] guide. [[Special:Contributions/24.127.7.223|24.127.7.223]] 17:51, February 29, 2024 (EST)
::::Are you asking me to upload the images? {{User:Swallow/sig}} 17:59, February 29, 2024 (EST)
:::::Yes, yes I am. Please. [[Special:Contributions/24.127.7.223|24.127.7.223]] 18:32, February 29, 2024 (EST)

== Nice new name! ==

I really like the new username you've assumed there! Hell, it even matches your signature perfectly! --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:11, February 29, 2024 (EST)
:Thank you for the nice words, I had wanted to change my name for a little while after a few occasions my name was taken out of context but just couldn't decide on another one until playing ''Yohane the Parhelion: Numazu in the Mirage'' and thought Nightwicked was a cool name. For my signature, I may replace Rindo with someone from ''Yohane'', but will still keep Rindo and Fret in my userpage. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 13:23, February 29, 2024 (EST)
::Mama mia. Seems like a new Bowser Imma have to take care of. <span style="background-color:#ffe6e6"> [[File:SM64DS Mario Lives Icon.png]] It's me, '''[[User:Mario|<span style="color:#970000">Mario</span>]]'''! ([[User talk:Mario|<span style="color:#000dad;font-family:monospace">Talk</span>]] / [[Special:Contributions/Mario|<span style="color:#4c3e0a;font-family:monospace">Stalk</span>]])</span> 22:27, March 2, 2024 (EST)

== New Soup redirects ==

I mean, since RelaxAlax started calling those games 'New Soup,' which was 6 or 7 years ago, a lot of people started calling those games that as well. So to me, it's not that farfetched to create those redirects. I'm sure a lot of people will use them, starting with myself. --[[User:Conradd|Conradd]] ([[User talk:Conradd|talk]]) 12:06, March 14, 2024 (EDT)
:A few years ago there were redirects created for The Super Mario Bros, Super Show episodes with titles originating from the Wildbrain YouTube channel such as "Ahehehauhe", and many of those ended up getting deleted. We do not need redirects based on what some random YouTuber or internet personality calls them, I've certainly never heard of RelaxAlax nor seen anyone ever call New Super Mario Bros "New Soup". You should take a close look at [[MarioWiki:Redirects#Unnecessary redirects]]. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 12:12, March 14, 2024 (EDT)

== Fandom template proposal ==

Fandom's interwiki link has been fixed one or more years ago. Just as I researched, <code><nowiki>[[wikia:c:spongebob:Bikini Bottom|Bikini Bottom]]</nowiki></code> takes you {{plain link|[https://spongebob.fandom.com/wiki/Bikini_Bottom here]}} By the way, there's a [[Template talk:Fandom#Decide whether to add the language parameter and/or change back to the interwiki link template|proposal on decisions to add the language parameters and/or change back to the interwiki]], and the deadline is tomorrow. Which option would you choose? {{User:GuntherBB/sig}} 14:17, March 22, 2024 (EDT)
:I don't really care, so I'm not voting. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 15:50, March 22, 2024 (EDT)

== Thank you by all support! ==

[[User talk:Perfection#Super Mario FanWiki votes|Go check...]] {{unsigned|Perfection}}

== Proposal cleaned up ==

I cleaned up [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Broaden the scope of the &lcub;&lcub;unreferenced&rcub;&rcub; template|my proposal]] by adding the <code><nowiki><pre></nowiki></code> tags. You should take a look at what the template will look like from above. What do you think how my proposal looks? {{User:GuntherBB/sig}} 21:18, March 30, 2024 (EDT)
:First, I'm not interested in this one either. Second, per [[MarioWiki:Courtesy]], do not go around other users' talk pages asking for votes in proposals. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 21:33, March 30, 2024 (EDT)

== Antasma ==

Can you please add that on the "'''Antasma'''" page, during his first fight at the start of the game, his bat attack doesn't damage Mario, as for both him and Mario, no damage numbers are displayed, and the first battle always ends after two turns.
[[Special:Contributions/68.36.158.225|68.36.158.225]] 17:30, April 10, 2024 (EDT)

== I need a page deleted. ==

Hello! I uploaded a MP4 media file recently that I meant to use as a video clip. However, it was uploaded as an audio file and not a video file. I then converted it to a GIF and attempted to upload a new version of the file, only for the wiki to stop me with an error message. I would like for the file that I uploaded (and its corresponding page) to be deleted, as the file is useless now that I have it as a GIF. Once the file is deleted, I will upload my GIF file. Please delete the page as soon as possible. The page is File:PPS Transformation Cutscene.mp4. I already contacted {{User|Mario|Mario}} about this, but I have gotten no response. I am sending a nearly identical message to {{User|Mario jc|Mario jc}} because I want this done as soon as possible. Thank you so, so much! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 16:54, April 15, 2024 (EDT)
:Thank you so much! This helped a lot! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 15:38, April 16, 2024 (EDT)

== Shy Guy (i'm kinda worried) ==

Who was the IP doxing? Was it anyone related to the Wiki's userbase/staff community? You don't need to specify who it is specifically, just give an affirmative or negative response. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 14:11, April 17, 2024 (EDT)
:I have no idea who it was (don't even know if it was someone in the wiki community), the edit did contain a home address and an email. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 14:27, April 17, 2024 (EDT)
::Regardless, thank you for having hidden the revision. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 14:35, April 17, 2024 (EDT)

==Question==

Why are you spying me?[[User:Arthur2|Arthur2]] ([[User talk:Arthur2|talk]]) 12:10, April 27, 2024 (EDT)
:I'm not "spying", I look at the recent changes page to see what edits happen around the wiki. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 12:45, April 27, 2024 (EDT)

== Re:Kyankyan ==

My bad. {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 07:52, April 29, 2024 (EDT)

==Appeal==

See the appeal page. [[User:Arthur2|Arthur2]] ([[User talk:Arthur2|talk]]) 19:55, May 5, 2024 (EDT)

== Nightwicked Bowser[[User:NEMRISE1294|NEMRISE1294]] ([[User talk:NEMRISE1294|talk]]) 14:35, May 11, 2024 (EDT) ==

Why did you delete my page?![[User:NEMRISE1294|NEMRISE1294]] ([[User talk:NEMRISE1294|talk]]) 14:35, May 11, 2024 (EDT)
:Because it only had two sentences, no categories and no images. Articles that short are normally deleted on sight, and must be near-complete upon creation. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 14:37, May 11, 2024 (EDT)

== Replied to your message on my talk page ==

Just in case you didn't see it. --[[User:Hiccup|Hiccup]] ([[User talk:Hiccup|talk]]) 18:24, May 27, 2024 (EDT)

== Re: Palace of Shadow Pipe ==

So in my experience, I lost to the Shadow Queen and when I went to retry from my previous save (which was just outside of the Palace of Shadow Depths), the pipe appeared there when I started the file up. It's located at the bottom of the staircase in the same part of the room where the Save Block is located and it leads to the entrance room, a short ways from the Thousand Year Door. And I can confirm it definitely did appear there before I defeated the Shadow Queen. I think it appears after the first time you fight the Shadow Queen, regardless of whether you win or lose the fight. {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== Sentence fragments with periods ==

Hello [[User:Nightwicked Bowser|Nightwicked Bowser]], so I have noticed several pages in the Wiki with sentence fragments, which is fine, but several of them have periods at the end, these are unnecessary periods that need to be removed, such as describing images with extra details in the gallery section in pages, or describing images not in the gallery, the reason these need to be removed is because they are used in not full sentences, unlike long paragraphs. {{User:C11P/sig}} 05:30, June 2, 2024 (EDT)

== Just a little heads-up... ==

[[Special:Diff/4246309|The "That's it! I've had enough!" was not directed towards you]], just towards the situation involving that user itself. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 14:49, June 4, 2024 (EDT)
:Per reply at the Staff Noticeboard, I put a notice that users aside from admins should not be involved in this at the time. [[User:VideoGamePhenomHD|VideoGamePhenomHD]] ([[User talk:VideoGamePhenomHD|talk]]) 14:53, June 4, 2024 (EDT)
::You don't have the authority to forbid others from communicating with you on a public wiki. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:58, June 4, 2024 (EDT)

== Proposal ==

Wasn't there a proposal about changing "Magikoopa" to "Kamek" on pages about the ''Mario Party'' games? [[User:Dwhitney|Dwhitney]] ([[User talk:Dwhitney|talk]]) 20:09, June 8, 2024 (EDT)
:I don't know. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 20:19, June 8, 2024 (EDT)

== LetsPlayNintendoITA and second-person writing ==

The user {{user|LetsPlayNintendoITA}} continues to use "you" in their edits even after you reminded them of it, as seen in [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Paper_Mario:_The_Thousand-Year_Door_(Nintendo_Switch)&oldid=4255421#By_locations_2 this edit] they made. I've already fixed it, by the way. [[User:ChillyBeanBAM|ChillyBeanBAM]] ([[User talk:ChillyBeanBAM|talk]]) 16:06, June 10, 2024 (EDT)
:please keep in mind with the ammount of edits done it's hard to not slip up i'm sorry [[User:LetsPlayNintendoITA|<span style="color:green">LetsPlay</span><span style="color:black">Nintendo</span><span style="color:red">ITA</span>]] 17:07, June 10, 2024 (EDT)

== Thank you ==

Thank you for deleting [[Special:Redirect/logid/1300654|this page]] I accidentally created. I thought I was on another Mario Wiki, until I looked. My apologies for any mishaps I may have caused. -[[User:DarkMatterMan4500|DarkMatterMan4500]] ([[User talk:DarkMatterMan4500|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/DarkMatterMan4500|contribs]]) 07:29, June 16, 2024 (EDT)

== Snoutlet and "Pig" Category ==

Howdy! Maybe this warrants a wider discussion on the wiki, but my impression of the categories for real-like subjects, like animals, is that they are largely used for denotating primary design influences. So while [[Snoutlet]] is not a pig in a canonical sense, I think they should still be in the Pig category due to their name across all languages, that fact that Snoutlet feels inclined to specify that they are not a pig due to the apparent physical resemblance, and the fact that it appears to be based on a piggy bank (even with a coin slot-like indentation on its back) would indicate it its design deliberately derives from pigs as much as something like the [[Pig Head Statue]], [[Piggy Bank]], and [[Poink]], which are appropriately in the Pig category. What do you think? - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 21:28, June 23, 2024 (EDT)
:I thought the category was used for subjects that actually are of that species, so categorising Snoutlet as a pig despite saying they're not one seemed a bit contradictory. I think we should wait until it gets closer to release and we know a lot more about Snoutlet, 'cause for now that one line of dialogue is all we know. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 03:32, June 24, 2024 (EDT)
::Sounds good. Thanks! - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 09:00, June 24, 2024 (EDT)

==I'm getting a bit uncomfortable by [[Special:Contributions/5.82.57.96|5.82.57.96]]==
Sparks had gone offline in the timespan between I started to write to her to when I posted it, so I hope it's okay that I ask you about help with this too: On [[User_talk:DandelionSprout#Korean_logo_and_DSi_menu_logo_for_WarioWare_Snapped]], I'm feeling pretty "Uuuuuuuuh..." about A) the user (5.82.57.96) apparently thinks me and only me can handle adding images, and 2) they're kinda linking to ''de facto'' pirate sites (presuming MarioCube counts as a pirate site, which I think it does). So I feel like I need someone to step in to them as a 3rd commenter in that thread so that I don't stand alone in trying to talk with them. [[User:DandelionSprout|DandelionSprout]] ([[User talk:DandelionSprout|talk]]) 17:51, June 26, 2024 (EDT)
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	Sparks had gone offline in the timespan between I started to write to ~~him~~ to when I posted it, so I hope it's okay that I ask you about help with this too: On [[User_talk:DandelionSprout#Korean_logo_and_DSi_menu_logo_for_WarioWare_Snapped]], I'm feeling pretty "Uuuuuuuuh..." about A) the user (5.82.57.96) apparently thinks me and only me can handle adding images, and 2) they're kinda linking to ''de facto'' pirate sites (presuming MarioCube counts as a pirate site, which I think it does). So I feel like I need someone to step in to them as a 3rd commenter in that thread so that I don't stand alone in trying to talk with them. [[User:DandelionSprout\|DandelionSprout]] ([[User talk:DandelionSprout\|talk]]) 17:51, June 26, 2024 (EDT)		Sparks had gone offline in the timespan between I started to write to her to when I posted it, so I hope it's okay that I ask you about help with this too: On [[User_talk:DandelionSprout#Korean_logo_and_DSi_menu_logo_for_WarioWare_Snapped]], I'm feeling pretty "Uuuuuuuuh..." about A) the user (5.82.57.96) apparently thinks me and only me can handle adding images, and 2) they're kinda linking to ''de facto'' pirate sites (presuming MarioCube counts as a pirate site, which I think it does). So I feel like I need someone to step in to them as a 3rd commenter in that thread so that I don't stand alone in trying to talk with them. [[User:DandelionSprout\|DandelionSprout]] ([[User talk:DandelionSprout\|talk]]) 17:51, June 26, 2024 (EDT)