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A short while back, around the time I added the Walu-Daisy bit to the wiki, I spotted something interesting when looking through the [https://web.archive.org/web/20001209080900/http://www.camelot.co.jp/gimon/gimon13.html ''Mario Tennis'' Camelot Q&A page] for more info:<blockquote>今までに発売されたマリオシリーズのソフトをひっくり返し、今回のラインナップに加われそうなキャラを探します。
A short while back, around the time I added the Walu-Daisy bit to the wiki, I spotted something interesting when looking through the [https://web.archive.org/web/20001209080900/http://www.camelot.co.jp/gimon/gimon13.html ''Mario Tennis'' Camelot Q&A page] for more info:<blockquote>今までに発売されたマリオシリーズのソフトをひっくり返し、今回のラインナップに加われそうなキャラを探します。


{{color|darkred|「'''<big>クリボー</big>'''どうですか?」<br>「'''<big><big>クリボン</big></big>'''じゃねえだろうな。」<br>「いや、'''<big>クリボー</big>'''です。」}}
{{color|「'''<big>クリボー</big>'''どうですか?」<br>「'''<big><big>クリボン</big></big>'''じゃねえだろうな。」<br>「いや、'''<big>クリボー</big>'''です。」|darkred}}


何のことかさっぱりわからないと思いますが、以前'''クリボンとクリボーを勘違いする事件'''が起きた事があるからです。同様に、'''チョロプー、インディ事件'''というのもあります。それは、さておき、</blockquote>So, two takeaways here. One, the Kuribo/Kuribon (Goomba/Galoomba) confusion also existed to some extent in Japan. Two, there was ''also'' Choropoo/Indy (Monty/Mega Mole) confusion at some point. Now, it unfortunately doesn't elaborate there since it's only a quick sidenote, but reading that, a few things started clicking with the proverbial gears in my head. Was the confusion because they had totally different Japanese names? Is this why ''Super Mario-kun'' invented Super Choropoo one time, and later Mega Mole was phased out in favor of Morty Mole and then Mega Monty Mole? Is this why the ''Super Mario 64'' source assets used <tt>indy</tt> to refer to what in the final is supposed to be Choropoo? Is this why the Presenters in ''Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga'' went from looking like Mega Mole to Monty Mole in the remake? Or, potentially, this might even factor in to Rocky Wrench's redesign somehow? I've never heard of anything regarding a Choropoo/Indy mix-up, so I was wondering if you have further thoughts or details to shed light on this. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:24, January 6, 2023 (EST)
何のことかさっぱりわからないと思いますが、以前'''クリボンとクリボーを勘違いする事件'''が起きた事があるからです。同様に、'''チョロプー、インディ事件'''というのもあります。それは、さておき、</blockquote>So, two takeaways here. One, the Kuribo/Kuribon (Goomba/Galoomba) confusion also existed to some extent in Japan. Two, there was ''also'' Choropoo/Indy (Monty/Mega Mole) confusion at some point. Now, it unfortunately doesn't elaborate there since it's only a quick sidenote, but reading that, a few things started clicking with the proverbial gears in my head. Was the confusion because they had totally different Japanese names? Is this why ''Super Mario-kun'' invented Super Choropoo one time, and later Mega Mole was phased out in favor of Morty Mole and then Mega Monty Mole? Is this why the ''Super Mario 64'' source assets used <tt>indy</tt> to refer to what in the final is supposed to be Choropoo? Is this why the Presenters in ''Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga'' went from looking like Mega Mole to Monty Mole in the remake? Or, potentially, this might even factor in to Rocky Wrench's redesign somehow? I've never heard of anything regarding a Choropoo/Indy mix-up, so I was wondering if you have further thoughts or details to shed light on this. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:24, January 6, 2023 (EST)
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::Sorry to be a bother, but I managed to trim that list dramatically since then. Everything currently there has talk page discussions, but I think the particular trouble spot is jellyfish/kurako (Tuki/Boddle's assistant might also use support). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:50, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
::Sorry to be a bother, but I managed to trim that list dramatically since then. Everything currently there has talk page discussions, but I think the particular trouble spot is jellyfish/kurako (Tuki/Boddle's assistant might also use support). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:50, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
:::Sorry, as of late I have troubles finding a moment to look into these, I’ll see if I can at least look at the two troublesome ones.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:10, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
:::Sorry, as of late I have troubles finding a moment to look into these, I’ll see if I can at least look at the two troublesome ones.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:10, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
::::Only now I realize I never answered. Sadly, the guide doesn’t mention the kurako nor Tuki, so it can’t help.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:09, September 29, 2024 (EDT)


==Koopa Troop==
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:It’s a tough call. Kadokawa now is the publisher of the official guides, but 11 years ago if I remember correctly the publisher of the Official Nintendo Guidebooks was Shogakukan. You should look for the 「協力/任天堂」 line in the colophon that states that a guide was written in collaboration with Nintendo, the recent character picture book by GzBrain and Kadokawa has that line, as an example.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:02, March 31, 2024 (EDT)
:It’s a tough call. Kadokawa now is the publisher of the official guides, but 11 years ago if I remember correctly the publisher of the Official Nintendo Guidebooks was Shogakukan. You should look for the 「協力/任天堂」 line in the colophon that states that a guide was written in collaboration with Nintendo, the recent character picture book by GzBrain and Kadokawa has that line, as an example.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:02, March 31, 2024 (EDT)
::I see. Well, the few preview pages don't have that, so, to be on the safe side, I think I'll ignore this guide. Thanks for the help! [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 07:18, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
::I see. Well, the few preview pages don't have that, so, to be on the safe side, I think I'll ignore this guide. Thanks for the help! [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 07:18, April 1, 2024 (EDT)
== MLSS Hammer Bro family ==
To your knowledge, were the [[Border Bro|Kokkyō Kyodai]] ever indicated in Japanese sources to be related to [[Sumo Bro|the other "K.K." brothers]]? I have that question asked [[Talk:Border Bro|here]] and a related one [[Talk:Limbo Bro|here]]. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:03, September 12, 2024 (EDT)
:Sorry that I reply only now. While the pun is pretty likely, the guide specifically referred to them as ハンマーブロス twice on page 24, so no official connection with the Sumo Bros. is acknowledged. I guess it’s just Alpha Dream that wanted a clever pun, but Nintendo already was pretty strict on making connections.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:20, September 29, 2024 (EDT)

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