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''Archive:'' '''[[User talk:Mister Wu/Archive 1|1]]'''
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==Vandal report==
==Trick==
As the admin noticeboard is not working in this case, may you please block {{User|104.247.134.48}} while hiding their edits, as they have repeatedly vandalized pages for the past hour. Thanks! {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 8:57, 13 February 2019 (EST)
You should crop out your pics.
:Done!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 09:04, 13 February 2019 (EST)


== Turtles and Moles ==
BTW, I'm very conflicted if I should upload animated gifs. On one hand, it illustrates the tricks better, but on the other hand, it would REALLY destroy the loading time of this page. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:59, 20 September 2015 (EDT)
:I will crop the pics, except in the examples of the talk pages in order to show where they were taken. Regarding the gifs, those work well with MK8 as MKTV allows slow motion and in Time Trials Replays the "rear" point of view can be chosen. You might try a dedicated orphan page and see what happens. At the moment I don't have the software to create gifs from clips, so I would need suggestions about this aspect.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:06, 20 September 2015 (EDT)
::No, I mean, I'm [http://www.mariowiki.com/Gallery:Mario_Kart_Wii#Character_select_idle_animations able to create animations directly from the source] in Mario Kart Wii. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:08, 20 September 2015 (EDT)
:::Ah, ok! Well, this is not something I can really do, but anyway I will finish the section on the talk page so you will see what I mean.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:21, 20 September 2015 (EDT)


The Turtle proposal will have to be revisited in four weeks, but in the meantime, I have some questions you could look into...
== Minor Question ==


1) Would you happen to know if there is internal data in ''Bowser's Minions'' that points to Nokottasu being redesigned or replaced? I don't have the remake, and most filenames are probably not useful if previous ''Mario & Luigi'' games on DS and 3DS are any indication, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to check.
In <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mario_%26_Luigi:_Paper_Jam&oldid=1933432 this revision]</span> of the ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam Bros.'' article, you state that <blockquote>"PAL" is a standard that is not followed by European 3DS games!</blockquote> If European 3DS games do not use the PAL format, which format do they use, then? What is your source on this? {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} 06:40, 7 January 2016 (EST)
:There is a technical matter here, but [[Wikipedia:PAL|PAL]], which means "Phase Alternating Line", is a color encoding system used for analog television signals. In Europe and other parts of the world, the NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Wii and, in part (when you use the analog output), the Wii U have to follow this standard, and the games for those consoles are said "PAL versions" (although in the case of the Wii U digital output is supported and therefore "PAL version" is not really precise). All Nintendo portable consoles actually never followed this standard because their screens are directly controlled by the console and the PAL encoding for the transmission of video is not needed (in particular, the articles [https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nintendo+3DS+Teardown/5029 here] and [https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nintendo+3DS+XL+2015+Teardown/36346 here] show the ribbon cables used to transmit the video signal in the case of the 3DS and new 3DS XL). This is why "PAL" version makes sense only in the context of home console games and less so in the case of the Wii U.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 08:44, 7 January 2016 (EST)
::Just so you know, currently, this wiki uses "PAL" as shorthand for the [[Glossary#P|European and Australian region releases/localizations]], hence it was being used for a handheld game in the first place. A [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_43#Replace_.22NTSC.2FPAL_version.22_with_.22American.2FEuropean.2FAustralian.2FJapanese_version.22|recent proposal to scrap the term]] was met with a lot of opposition even though we're using the term (and NTSC), more broadly than its technical definition, since there's no other way to really succinctly talk about the different groups of countries: we just have to make do with what we got. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 09:47, 7 January 2016 (EST)
:::Ok, sorry, I didn't understand what was the proper use after the proposal failed. I think that someday an alternative should be found because with the arrival of HDMI PAL will be less and less used.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 09:50, 7 January 2016 (EST)


2) Do "Monty Moles" have a unique name in the ''Mario & Luigi RPG'' guide as well? The fact that the Nintendo Power and Prima Games guides generically call them "moles" could also make them analogous to Turtles, given they originally looked more like yellow Mega Moles.
== Nintendo Badge Arcade Image Uploads ==


Also, totally unrelated but I figured you'd know - what's up with Morton's third-person speech patterns after ''Paper Jam''? Is this a newer change in localization as of ''Color Splash'', or was the oddity always evident in the recent Japanese RPGs? (And his "Small Bowser" nickname for Bowser Jr. wouldn't be intended to be a "Kokuppa" reference, would it?) [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:30, 27 February 2019 (EST)
I think you duplicated images. Check [[Gallery:Nintendo Badge Arcade]]. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 21:40, 6 February 2016 (EST)
:1) I don't have the internal data of the game, since I don't have a 3DS, and The Spriters Resource [https://www.spriters-resource.com/3ds/marioluigisuperstarsagabowsersminions/sheet/97833/ renamed it using the name from the Prima guide], at the moment I can't help there, sorry. You can ask {{User|Fawfulthegreat64}}, though, he uploaded some sprites from the game so he might have access to internal data.
:That's a deliberate decision. The new images have a higher resolution and some of them were actually already uploaded and are appearing as duplicate. If you want, we can decide before changing the gallery which ones to use. For consistency and resolution, I prefer the new set.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:43, 6 February 2016 (EST)
:2) Well, you're starting seeing the pattern, aren't you? Indeed, those moles have a different Japanese name: 「プレゼンター」 (page 98 is in particular dedicated to them, if you need at least one page from the book to cite, although they tend to be mentioned throughout the book). Pretty fitting for somewhat-Mega Moles that look like presenters and give you presents!
::OK. I thought you were unaware somehow. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 21:57, 6 February 2016 (EST)
:3) This is actually an interesting case: in Japan Morton since ''Paper Mario: Color Splash'' doesn't speak in third person at all! [https://youtu.be/p-r9ExfjU9c?list=PLOZOho2RXG3y9mF9H6E_aIEQwTI2tKJz4&t=51 In that game he started using 「オラ」] to refer to himself and he continued doing so [https://youtu.be/WMxwClUVZrI?list=PL9zrRb_2ljfr4FDgvtz-HX0IG3eHispM4&t=361 in ''Minon Quest''] and [https://youtu.be/i7eNY_aW-EM?list=PL9zrRb_2ljfprBlvRwdylzDwsVC89MHMJ&t=38 in ''Bowser Jr.'s Journey'']. I wonder why they localized that as third person... Regarding the ''Small Bowser'' part, at the moment I don't know where to look to find where the nickname is used since I plan to just follow an Italian playthrough that hasn't reached the ''Bowser Jr.'s Journey'' part yet.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:50, 27 February 2019 (EST)
::Docky here, maybe they're additionally called "purezenta" to play off "pu." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:37, 27 February 2019 (EST)
:::I'm thinking the same thing, although I wonder if there is significance to the Presenter name possibly being a play on ''Pū'' instead of ''Choropū'' (perhaps Rocky Wrench was already considered to be a more direct Monty Mole relative?). I will ask Fawfulthegreat64 or Hiccup about the internal filenames since there's a chance they can be useful to know before the next proposal. The Morton bit is definitely good to know and would be a welcome addition to his article. Regarding Small Bowser - thanks to the localization, I have no idea if it is meant to just be a joke on Morton's vocabulary or if Nintendo was trying to get him to "pass the torch" to the newer Little Koopa, especially given that his English dialog also uses "LARGE BOWSER" for Bowser and doesn't always use "SMALL BOWSER" for Bowser Jr. I don't recall which worlds to look out for these lines, though. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:17, 27 February 2019 (EST)
::::To clarify on Morton, he actually first used オラ in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMktc42ufcM Paper Jam]. It's also there that the Japanese equivalent of his "caveman speak" is introduced; one obvious trait is the lack of particle は. Color Splash makes it more obvious because that game has his dialogue entirely in hiragana. As for Junior, quickly skimming through the Japanese version of Bowser Jr.'s Journey I saw the Koopalings call him 「ぼっちゃん」 99% of the time, including Morton (the 1% was ''Koopa Jr.-sama'' in the post-credits Bowser battle). [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|talk]]) 15:12, 28 February 2019 (EST)
On a related note, Presenter moles' bonus dungeons have Spark-like enemies. What are they called in the guide? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:30, 3 March 2019 (EST)
: I tried looking, but couldn't find a specific mention of them in the guide, sorry.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:09, 3 March 2019 (EST)
::Additionally, there's the problem that in the original, they look like Li'l Sparkies, and in the remake, they look like the ''Smash'' design for Hotheads. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:31, 3 March 2019 (EST)
:::Also, is there any Japanese name for  the [[Mysterious Mine Carts owner]], or is he generically named? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 06:41, March 27, 2019 (EDT)
::::On page 31, he is just referred to as 「<span class=explain title="ろうじん">老人</span>」, ''old person''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 14:24, March 27, 2019 (EDT)


== "It wasn't cropped" ==
== Quiz show ==


If it came from the sheet, it ''had'' to be cropped, by definition, as the rest of the sheet was removed. Cropping is not just the usage of the crop tool, it's the general removal of all but a specific part of an image. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:59, April 10, 2019 (EDT)
I'll do the talking around here. I think I'll just ask you a couple of questions. Questions only the Super Mario Wiki contributors could answer. Wanna answer some random questions? [[File:Toco Bell.png|x35px|link=Special:Contributions/Toco Bell]] [[User:Toco Bell|Toco]] [[User talk:Toco Bell|Bell]] [[File:Pinhead Larry.jpg|x35px|link=Special:Editcount/Toco Bell]] 16:46, 6 March 2016 (EST)
:That's correct, but by not specifying ''from the sprite sheet'', there's the risk to imply that the sprite is not the full sprite, but a part of it. I updated the description so that we can find a common ground.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:03, April 10, 2019 (EDT)
:The way you put it doesn't seem that enticing... if you go personal I won't answer for sure on a public page ;-)!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:06, 6 March 2016 (EST)


==A Quick Question==
==Your table in the Mario Kart Wii article==
Since you confirmed on the "30th Anniversary Books Related Questions" section of your talk that the German encyclopedia uses the name "Mini-Wummp" to refer to the [[Pattan]] enemy, could I add that names to the "Foreign Names" section of the article? Thanks in advance. [[User:Power Flotzo|Power Flotzo]] ([[User talk:Power Flotzo|talk]]) 17:18, April 26, 2019 (EDT)
An actual stats table for [[Mario Kart Wii]] is a very great thing to have in MarioWiki, but unfortunately [http://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_kart_wii#Actual_stats how it's formatted also needs to be taken into account]. The words are tiny in an attempt to accommodate the size of it, but even so, it side-scrolls in even 1680x1080 resolution, the resolution I use and a pretty wide one at that. It's pretty much unreadable and for any web-design, you want to avoid side-scrolling at all costs. [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=29237.msg1822927#msg1822927 Walkazo's suggestion] or even [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=29237.msg1823218#msg1823218 what my twin said] should maybe be taken into account, as I think we need to reformat the table asap. By the way, I don't mean to offend in that post, it's just that counter-productive design bugs me. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:08, 28 March 2016 (EDT)
:You can add said name: so far nobody pointed out there being significant issues with the German translation of the ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'', which means that said translation can be used as a valid source for German names.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:23, April 26, 2019 (EDT)
:Don't worry at all! I 100% agree with you, side scrolling must be avoided, and I was hoping that someone with knowledge on MediaWiki gave me some help (by the way, I am using a 1920 x 1080 resolution monitor, so if at lower resolutions, such as the very common 1366 x 768, some layouts are broken in pages edited by me, tell me!)! Are there specific code strings we might use? Or should we split the table in sub-tables (eg.: one table for each of the menu stats)?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:06, 28 March 2016 (EDT)
::I did notice a potential issue with the German translation [[User talk:79.220.116.66|here]], assuming the person was referencing the encyclopedia (actually, could you check the accuracy of those [[Special:Contributions/79.220.116.66|edit]]s?). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 02:47, September 20, 2019 (EDT)
::I'm not too knowledgeable about creating tables. Maybe you can variations of it in your sandbox page and fool around with what you got. I do like the sub-table idea, maybe that could work. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:27, 28 March 2016 (EDT)
:::I thought about it, maybe I could transpose the table and split it by weight class and, if needed, even vehicle class (karts and bikes). I might try a spreadsheet and [http://marianogappa.github.io/mediawiki-table-utility/ this tool], do you know if it is reliable?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:51, 28 March 2016 (EDT)
::::Maybe you could split it by weight class, but I don't see how that will decrease horizontal size (those values after all are vertically oriented), unless you want to overhaul it and make the karts column-oriented instead of stats instead, and then split the weight classes and maybe even split the types of vehicles too, considering that they handle differently and have different mechanics. I don't know if the spreadsheet is reliable, never used it myself before. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:57, 28 March 2016 (EDT)
:::::Yes, transposing means that each vehicle becomes a column. This way, having many rows won't be an issue, and we can safely decide how many columns we want (having them split by vehicle type and weight type means we will never have that many columns). I might try it if you want.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:02, 28 March 2016 (EDT)
::::::Yeah sorry for my lack of vocab skills lol. I'd like to see you work with it. :) {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:07, 28 March 2016 (EDT)
:::::::Ok, I created in the page a transposed table split by size. Is it fine?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:17, 28 March 2016 (EDT)
::::::::I've looked at it and it's fine in this current resolution, buuut I haven't checked lower ones. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:30, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::Thank you for checking! If you have reports of troubles at lower resolutions, please tell me, and in this case I will split also by vehicle class (karts and bikes). Should I also transpose the characters' bonuses table?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:43, 29 March 2016 (EDT)
::::::::::I suggest you should in order to keep consistency. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:28, 30 March 2016 (EDT)
:::::::::::Done! Thank you for all the suggestions! If you have other issues or suggestions, please tell me!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:28, 30 March 2016 (EDT)


== Some quick questions... ==
==Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros. related questions==


Hey! I wanted to ask...
Since you are now done with the Koopaling bios from the Encyclopedia, you could probably check a couple of more things related to enemies:<br>
1.) How are Boss Bass and Big Bertha from SMB3 descriped? Do they have their own bios or not?<br>
2.) Are post-SMB3 Rocky Wrenches said to be moles? You can also use the Memorial Book to check this.<br>
3.) What is said about the blue fake Bowser from SMB:LL?


*Does your Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga guidebook mention the fact that [[Fawful]], [[Cackletta]], and [[Popple]] are Beanish?
If more comes to my mind, I'll post here.<br>
*Does it also teels if the [[Mysterious Mine Carts owner]] is a [[Beanish]] or a [[Hoohooligan]]?
PS. Not to be rude, but I don't know why you always write something in the summary. It's kinda excessive especially for talk pages imo. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 10:03, 16 April 2016 (EDT)
*Does it gives a name to [[Mr. Thwomp]]? The name is unsourced. Just for a Japanese name. I will ask if he is named in the English guides as well. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:24, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
:I'll try to answer all points:<br>
:Since the OCR of my translating app doesn't work anymore - it was based on sending the picture to a remote server to perform the OCR, and this part no longer works -, I'll need quite some time to che this, in any case I can already confirm that the second answer is ''no'' - the book doesn't go into such details, it's just focused on the walkthrough - while as far as the third question is concerned, the book doesn't deal with ''Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:53, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
:1)Boss Bass and Big Bertha in the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' enemies page are actually the same enemy, here is the description:<br>
:巨大プクプク<br>
:水面を移動し、ジャンプして<span class=explain title="おそ">襲</span>いかかってくる。水中にいることもある。<br />
:So, actually, they are considered the same enemy, the interesting thing is that they are distinct from Boss Bass that appears in ''Super Mario 64'' and subsequent games, who is called 「バサバサ」 instead. In the Memorial Book only the latter is present, and is confirmed not to be featured in ''Super Mario Bros. 3''.<br />
:<br />
:2)Rocky Wrenches<br />
:Unfortunately, these enemies aren't featured in the Memorial Book Characters' pages. Here are the descriptions from the games other than ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' as reported in the Encyclopedia, where thaey are known as 「プー」 (and are distinguished from the Rocky Wrenches of ''Super Mario Galaxy'' that are called 「モグ」, so we finally have an official source for the different name!):<br />
:NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII<br />
:飛行船の船体から顔を出し、スパナを投げて攻撃してくる。<br />
:SUPER MARIO 3D LAND<br />
:穴から顔を出し、スパナやボムへいなどを投げてくる。<br />
:NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. U<br />
:飛行船に登場。船体から顔を出し、スパナを投げてくる。<br />
:So nothing particularly substantial, your question lies unanswered, unfortunately.<br />
:<br />
:3)Blue Bowser<br />
:This is actually a very interesting case that actually will likely make me rewrite the evolution of the appearance of Bowser. Before starting, let's see how the fake Bowser is described.<br />
:In both ''Super Mario Bros.'' and ''Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels'' enemies' sections he is known as 「にせ クッパ」, and here are his descriptions:<br />
:SUPER MARIO BROS.<br />
:城コースで待ち受けるボス。W1~5は炎を、W6~7はハンマーを投げる。<br />
:SUPER MARIO BROS.: THE LOST LEVELS<br />
:炎やハンマーで攻撃してくる。倒すと正体がわかる。<br />
:<br />
:Interestingly, the fake Bowser of ''Super Mario 3D Land'' has a different name,「しっぽ クッパ」. Here is his description:<br />
:炎を<span class=explain title="は">吐</span>き、しっぽを回して攻撃してくる。倒すと正体がわかる。<br />
:<br />
:However, when we see the description of Blue Bowser, things are different. His name is 「クッパ(青)」, so it's not implied that he's a fake Bowser, his description is also peculiar:<br />
:青い体のクッパ。3か所に出現し、炎やハンマーで攻撃してくる。<br />
:So, it's not said that he's a fake Bowser. This might be an intriguing element for a discussion about the depiction of Bowser, since we actually have an artwork of a Blue Bowser:<br />
:[[File:BowserSMBart.png|200px]]<br />
:Please note that the yellow hair, black eyebrows and red eyes come from the ''Super Mario Bros.'' cover art.<br />
:Regarding using the summary, I do it to briefly describe what I have done so that it's easier to correct mistakes, but also to point out an important concept in an answer.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:18, 16 April 2016 (EDT)
::Sorry, I forgot to check the most obvious place - the ''AND MORE'' section. There's a whole paragraph dedicated to him:<br>
::謎の青いクッパ!<br>
::W8-4でクツパと対決する直前、体の青いクッパと戦うことになる。クッパと同等の能力を持つが、その正体は不明。W9-3とWD-4にも登場する。<br>
::So it's not clear who he is, actually.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:22, 16 April 2016 (EDT)


== Super Mario Memorial Book and Super Mario Pia ==
So Boss Bass and Big Bertha are like prototypical Cheep Chomps and Blue Bowser is played up as a mystery. Alright, next question.<br>
 
4.) Are Dino Piranha and Gobblegut separated from their fire counterparts in the book or under the same enemy slot? [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 07:40, 17 April 2016 (EDT)
Please tell me everything you know. I need all the details. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 23:42, July 20, 2019 (EDT)
:4)Dino Piranha
:There are not many details to talk about, actually. The ''Super Mario Pia'' is a memorial book published for the 30th Anniversary of ''Super Mario Bros.'' by Pia Co., Ltd. (hence the name) and written in collaboration with Nintendo. It has a bit of a summary of each game of the ''Super Mario Bros.'' series (the same ones covered by the ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.''), it lists a few Mario series and it covers a few relevant characters and enemies in the Super Mario games as well. It also contains a few interviews (the lengthy ones are the interviews with Shu Yabushita, Eir Aoi, Mirin Furukawa, Takeshi Yourou and Takashi Tezuka, no interview with Miyamoto, Kotabe or Koizumi), it covers the Mario-related amiibo, a few 3D CGI character artwork we already have, a few Mario-related goods and a few Mario games you can play on the Virtual Console. It's not as important of a book as the ''Encyclopedia Super Mario bros.'' was, but we still could obtain a few interesting info from it, especially because the few characters covered have a list of the Super Mario games they appeared in, which can be interesting as Nintendo has since abandoned this character-centric approach in favor of rather listing the enemies and characters each game has, with the names they had at the time, as the ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' showed.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:07, July 21, 2019 (EDT)
:The Encyclopedia clearly consider them separate characters, and the ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' enemies' section even has three of them:
 
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Thank you. This is very helpful information for the wiki. [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 20:43, July 21, 2019 (EDT)
:SUPER MARIO GALAXY<br />
 
:ディノパックン<br />
== Request ==
:マリオを見つけると、大きな口を開けて<span class=explain title="おそ">襲</span>いかかってくる。しっぽが弱点。<br />
 
:<br />
Hey! Could you block {{User|Koolaidluigi1879}}, please? He's been trolling us since yesterday. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:49, July 24, 2019 (EDT)
:ディノパックン()<br />
 
:炎をまとったディノパックン。体に触れるとダメージ。<br />
:Just don't feed: report it on the adminboard and wait it out, and revert his changes in the mean time. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 03:53, July 24, 2019 (EDT)
:<br />
 
:SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2<br />
:See? Taken care of. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 03:53, July 24, 2019 (EDT)
:ディノパックン<br />
::Nevermind, he's got blocked by Mario jc. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:54, July 24, 2019 (EDT)
:マリオを見つけると追いかけてくる。しっぽが弱点。<br />
 
:<br />
==Request==
:ディノパックン()<br />
As my [[Mariowiki:Proposals/Archive 54#Add when the Just released and New subject should be removed, while slightly rewording the former template|recent proposal]] just passed may you make the changes to the {{tem|Just released}} and {{tem|New subject}} templates as specified on my proposal, as the templates are protected? Thanks! {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 09:32, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
:炎の体のディノパックン。火の玉を<span class=explain title="は"></span>いてくる。<br />
:I'm sorry, but I don't have enough administrative rights to modify the templates, either.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 09:41, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
:<br />
::I took care of it. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 10:00, July 25, 2019 (EDT)
:ディノパックンJr.<br />
 
:マリオを追いかけてくる。タマゴの<span class=explain title="から"></span>に包まれたおしりが弱点。<br />
== A quick request ==
:<br />
 
:The ''Super Mario Memorial Book'' only describe Dino Piranha but also mentions the two other versions:<br />
Hey! Since the [[Scuttlebug]] does appear in Super Mario Picture Books, could you scan the pages where it appears it? I'd crop it. I am patient, but you can do it ASAP if you want. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 09:00, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
:ディノパックン<br />
:{{file link|SMAGPB6 Cave SM64Enemies.png|Here is the scan}}. Since it was useful as a source to confirm the Japanese names, I kept the scan uncropped. In any case, you can find the cropped images of the Scuttlebug and of the Chuckya {{file link|SMAGPB6 Gasagoso.png|here}} and {{file link|SMAGPB6 Horuhei.png|here}}, respectively.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:39, August 15, 2019 (EDT)
:恐ろしく巨大なパックンフラワー。幼体のディノパックンJr.や体に炎をまとった仲間も登場する。<br />
 
:<br />
==Fish in ''Yoshi's Island DS''==
:Regarding Gobblegut, he's only mentioned in the Encyclopedia, again distinguished between normal and "dark" version:<br />
[[Special:Diff/2546756|A while back,]] you said you didn't have the files of ''Yoshi's Island DS'' on hand to confirm what the Boss Bass / Cheep Chomp is called internally. Right now, there is a discussion on how to handle [[Talk:Big Cheep Cheep#Iterations|Big Cheep Cheep]] due to Porcupuffer's recent attributes in ''Super Mario Maker 2'' as well as a stamp filename I found in ''NES Remix 2'' and ''NES Remix Pack'' of Boss Bass with a name close to modern Big Cheep Cheep (<tt>Hanko_SMB3_PukupukuBig</tt> - though admittedly, it could have just been a simplified or shorthand translation of it anyway). As far as I've been able to ascertain, Cheep Chomp is always ''Bakubaku'' in 3D games, but I was interested in checking out ''Yoshi's Island DS'' due to the localization suggesting the original Boss Bass instead. However, I'm inexperienced with 2D ripping from DS games. If you are able to check at this point, could you confirm the Boss Bass and Bessie Bass filenames? If my hunch is right that there may be evidence of Boss Bass and Cheep Chomp sharing the same conceptual root, that should make things more straightforward. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:25, September 26, 2019 (EDT)
:ガブリュウ<br />
:Sorry that I’m replying only now, I haven’t been much on the wiki these days. I do have the files of ''Yoshi’s Island DS'' now, though I’m mainly using the audio file names at the moment (they confirmed that the game featured a BakuBaku). I’ll try to have a look at those once I finished backing up a hard drive of mine.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 09:35, September 27, 2019 (EDT)
:大きな口で攻撃してくる。長い体の赤い部分が弱点。<br />
 
:<br />
Well, [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MlsZVOOw6X84N63NclYCyhYWKoYz4yY5rMfcb0RJgPk/edit?usp=sharing here] is the list of sound files in that game (for future reference as well), judging by <tt>SE_BIG_BAKBAK_GO_UP</tt>, <tt>SE_BIG_BAKBAK_DIVE</tt>, <tt>BANK_BIG_BAKBAK_GO_UP</tt> and <tt>BANK_BIG_BAKBAK_DIVE</tt>, assuming <tt>BIG</tt> is used for bosses, at least Bessie Bass is a ''BakuBaku''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:54, September 27, 2019 (EDT)
:ガブリユウ()<br />
 
:炎の体を持ち、火の玉を降らしてくるガブリユウ。長い体の赤い部分が弱点。<br />
== RE:Internal name of Nossie in Mario Kart Tour ==
:--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 11:24, 17 April 2016 (EDT)
 
Hi! The internal name of Nossie is "noshi". It's in the mapobj folder of the decrypted filesystem. Enjoy! [[User:SwampyGator|SwampyGator]] ([[User talk:SwampyGator|talk]]) 17:16, October 24, 2019 (EDT)
:Thanks a lot! First of all, it’s great that they returned to the original name, considering how Nossie/Noshi is definitely a recurring species there. Furthermore, this matches the most recent romanization of [[Dorrie]] as well, looks like they adapted the romanization of the “saurs” to better reflect the relationship with the name of Yoshi. I’ll report your findings on the talk page of Nossie.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:46, October 24, 2019 (EDT)
 
== RE:Mario Kart Tour icons for characters, kart and gliders ==
 
Hi! They are all uploaded, as MKT Icon Drivers.png, MKT Icon Karts.png, and MKT Icon Gliders.png [[User:SwampyGator|SwampyGator]] ([[User talk:SwampyGator|talk]]) 16:36, October 27, 2019 (EDT)
:Wow, you were so quick, that's amazing! Thanks a lot again!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:32, October 27, 2019 (EDT)
::I added you, and removed the numbers from your message. [[User:SwampyGator|SwampyGator]] ([[User talk:SwampyGator|talk]]) 21:47, October 29, 2019 (EDT)
:::Thanks!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:41, October 29, 2019 (EDT)
 
==Simple question==
What device are you using to edit with? [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 19:29, February 13, 2020 (EST)
:For text-only edits, I just use my mobile phone with the desktop site, when I need to upload images, I use my laptop - mobile phones just aren't suited to pixel-level image editing.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:30, February 13, 2020 (EST)
::What operating system are you using for your laptop. If it is a windows device, I would suggest downloading PNG Monstrous to optimize files instead of just Zopfli (as multiple types of compression are used). If you are using a linux or mac I would highly encourage ImageOptim as it allows optimization of four types of images (jpg/png/svg/gif). [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 21:39, February 13, 2020 (EST)
 
::In terms of worrying about optimization issues, I have yet to find any examples of gamma brightening on sprites or screenshots. Additionally, a majority of the ones that are brightened seem to be from the same period of time (NSMBW/MP8). Furthermore, gamma brightening is still ''super'' rare. While the 15ish images I have may ''sound'' like a lot, consider that it's being compared to the tens of thousands of images we have on the site.
::If you are super worried about it, nothing says you can't make a duplicate and optimize 1 before comparing. Removing metadata isn't necessarily a big deal if you don't let there be; If it's just something useless like a data or the resolution then we can move on like nothing is really wrong but stuff like the massive amounts of crap apple tacks on or stuff from digital cameras is stuff that should definitely go. Files creeping over 5MB are probably better to optimize and anything over 9 should ''definitely'' try to be compressed at least a little bit. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 22:03, February 14, 2020 (EST)
 
== Image metadata ==


I began writing a draft in [[User talk:Supermariofan67/Sandbox2#Image color-correction documentation|my sandbox]] to possibly use for a help page to explain the technical details of PNG color metadata and optimization as part of {{User|Trig Jegman}}'s recent proposal. Could you check if there any additional details I should include or inaccuracies I should fix? --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 14:39, February 22, 2020 (EST)
Dino Pakkun Jr. I recognise as [[Peewee Piranha]]. As for the others, the only identifiers seem to come from the kanji in parantheses. I remember Koopa Troopas getting similar treatment in the book.<br>
:As I said before, there are other relevant [http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/spec/1.2/PNG-Chunks.html ancillary chunks] that affect how an image is diplayed: tRNS, pHYs and sBIT. Those should be preserved as well, if present. At the moment that's what I found that might be fixed.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:10, February 22, 2020 (EST)
5.) What about Toads? I'm the guy who doesn't easily believe that characters who can be portrayed as species would have their own unique individual in the form of a generic character, seeing how much they have interchangability imo, but I've seen some pages that seem to point to the contradictory. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 08:35, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
::Thank you. I have added information about those chunks to the page. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 16:51, February 25, 2020 (EST)
:Regarding Toad and Toads there are many interesting parts in both books, it will take me some time to gather all the relevant parts and I will be busy this week-end, so you'll see no earlier than the next week, probably even later than that, unfortunately.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:11, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
 
::5)I was finally able to transcribe the descriptions of the Encyclopedia. Since you were interested in the matter, I included Yellow Toad, Blue Toad and Captain Toad.
== Chomp ==
::<br />
 
::BIOS<br />
Hi, not to be impatient or anything, but could you respond to what I said [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Talk%3AChain_Chomp_%28unchained%29&type=revision&diff=2909548&oldid=2908602 here]? I'm curious on your input. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:38, March 24, 2020 (EDT)
::キノピオ<br />
:Sorry, the reason why I didn't respond yet is that I'm puzzled due to the inconsistent Western naming not allowing us to draw simpler conclusions like in the case of Flutter (that again, sharing the Japanese name with Wiggler led to them not necessarily being that distinguished in the games, with cases of Wigglers becoming Flutters, even temporarily, but at least had a consistent naming in the West), plus I wasn't sure if you wanted input. I'll might have a second look into it later and reply.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 15:52, March 24, 2020 (EDT)
::ピーチ姫に仕えるキノコ王国の住人。なにかと冒険の手助けをしてくれる。<br />
 
::<br />
==Started on a Dr. Mario World stat template==
::きいろキノピオ<br />
Hey Mister Wu, sorry to bother you again with a stat template but I got started on something for [[Dr. Mario World]] as it displays character speed stat in a bar graph, making it difficult for stats to be displayed properly in articles.
::黄色い頭とベストを着用した、キノピオの仲間。<br />
 
::<br />
[[User:Baby Luigi/Template:DrMarioWorldstats]]
::あおキノピオ<br />
 
::キノピオの仲間。きいろキノピオやマリオたちと冒険に出ることもある。<br />
My goal is to make the template similar this in the Dr. Mario World wiki over at miraheze.
::<br />
 
::SUPER MARIO BROS.<br />
https://drmarioworld.miraheze.org/wiki/Doctors
::キノピオ<br />
 
::ピーチ姫に仕えている。7体いて、各ワールドで人質になっている。<br />
I'm wondering if you're able to do this, or any suggestions if I need to tackle this myself. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 00:19, April 27, 2020 (EDT)
::<br />
:Is this the result you're looking for to visualize speed as a bar graph?
::SUPER MARIO BROS.: THE LOST LEVELS<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::ピーチ姫に仕えており、人質になっている。<br />
::<br />
::SUPER MARIO BROS. 3<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::各国の王様に仕えている。キノピオの家で、便利なアイテムもくれる。<br />
::<br />
::SUPER MARIO BROS. 2<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::持ち上げる力が強く、ダッシュも速い。ただし、ジャンプ力は低い。<br />
::<br />
::SUPER MARIO 64<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::キノコ城の住人。<span class=explain title="かペ">壁</span>の中に閉じこめられている。<br />
::<br />
::SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::ピーチ姫の付き人。5色のキノピオが、ドルピック島のあちこちにいる。<br />
::<br />
::NEW SUPER MARIO BROS.<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::キノコ城が<span class=explain title="おそ">襲</span>われた際、あわてふためいていた。<br />
::<br />
::SUPER MARIO GALAXY<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::キノコ王国の住人。星くず祭を開催していた。<br />
::<br />
::キノピオ探検隊<br />
::5人のキノピオで結成された、ピーチ姫捜索隊。赤いキノピオが隊長。<br />
::<br />
::NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::「キノピオの家」におり、冒険に役立つアイテムをくれる。コース中に<span class=explain title="とら">囚</span>われていることもある。<br />
::<br />
::あおキノピオ<br />
::マルチプレイ時に登場。能力はマリオたちと同じ。<br />
::<br />
::きいろキノピオ<br />
::マルチプレイ時に登場する色違いのキノピオ。<br />
::<br />
::SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::ピーチ城に仕えるキノコ王国の住人。<br />
::<br />
::キノピオ探検隊<br />
::キノピオ隊長率いる5人のキノピオから結成された、ピーチ姫捜索隊。星船マリオでは、あずかり屋や郵便屋を担当。<br />
::<br />
::SUPER MARIO 3D LAND<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::キノピオの家やコース上にいて、アイテムをくれる。<br />
::<br />
::タヌキキノピオ<br />
::スペシャルワールドにいる、タヌキの姿をしたキノピオ。<br />
::<br />
::NEW SUPER MARIO BROS.2<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::「キノピオの家」でパワーアップアイテムをくれたり、マリオの残り数を増やしてくれたりする。<br />
::<br />
::NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. U<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::冒険中、役立つアイテムをくれる。<br />
::<br />
::きいろキノピオ<br />
::マルチプレイで登場。能力はマリオたちと同じ。<br />
::<br />
::あおキノピオ<br />
::マルチプレイで登場。色違いのキノピオ。<br />
::<br />
::SUPER MARIO 3D WORLD<br />
::キノピオ[[File:Toad icon un.png|x30px]]<br />
::ダッシュのスピードは速いが、ジャンプが苦手。<br />
::<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::キノピオの家にいて、アイテムをくれる。ワールドによって色が違う。<br />
::<br />
::キノピオ隊長<br />
::特定のコースで使用できる。重いリユックを背負っているため、ジャンプができない。通常コースにも登場し、助けてあげるとグリーンスターをもらえる。<br />
::<br />
::So, it is confirmed that the Toad of Super Mario 3D World is not the Blue Toad, but just Toad, with the blue color being a reference to the NES version of ''Super Mario Bros. 2''. Captain Toad is also confirmed to not be just Toad, but a separate character (although it is introduced just as a red Toad). Generally, there is not a clear distinction between the character Toad and the Toad species, and even in ''Super Mario 3D World'' they share the same name with the [[File:Toad icon un.png|x30px]] being the distinguishing factor and a particular reference to the Toad character is missing. The Encyclopedia also has a page dedicated to the games starring other characters of the ''Super Mario Bros.'' series. This is the section regarding Toad and Captain Toad:<br />
::キノピオ&キノピオ隊長<br />
::キノピオが初めて主役となったのは、1994年にファミリーコンピュータ用に発売された『ワリオの森』でのこと。妖精たちのすむ森をワリむ森をワリオの魔の手から救うためにモンスターと戦うという、パズルアクションゲームだ。『スーパーマリオUSA』で<span class=explain title="つちか">培</span>つたカ持ちという設定を活かし、敵や爆弾を投げて消していく。<br />
::また、『スーパーマリオギャラクシー』で初登場のキノピオ隊長も、2014年にWiiUで発売された『進め!キノピオ隊長』では主役を務めた。『進め!キノピオ隊長』は、箱庭型のコースでグリーンスターを探すアドベンチャーゲームで、キノピコとともに冒険を繰り広げる。『スーパーマリオ3Dワールド』とかかわりの深いストーリーとなっており、一部には同じパワーアップアイテムや敵キャラクターも登場している。<br />
::It is again evident that Captain Toad is the same one of ''Super Mario Galaxy'', while I cannot understand if the Toad of ''Wario's Woods'' is the same as that of ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' (though the wording seems to refer to other elements instead).<br />
::Finally, these are the descriptions in the ''Super Mario Memorial Book'':<br />
::キノピオ<br />
::キノコ王国の住人たち。ピーチをさらわれてマリオに助けを求めるのがお約束のシリーズを代表するキャラで、赤色や黄色などカラーはさまざま。また、キノじいやキノピオ隊長など固有の名前をもつものもいる。<br />
::登場作品<br />
::SM, SM2, SM3, USA, SM64, SMS, NSM, SMG, NSMW, SMG2, 3DL, NSM2, NSMU, 3DW<br />
::<br />
::キノピオ隊長<br />
::キノピオ探検隊の隊長。2014年に発売された『進め!キノピオ隊長』では主演を務めた。<br />
::登場作品<br />
::SMG, SMG2, 3DW<br />
::At this point, it is clear that Captain Toad is the one seen in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' and is a distinguished character to the point of being compared to Toadsworth. On the other hand, there still is no evidence for the existence of a Toad character, which is odd.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 11:28, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
:::''Sweet zombie Jesus, you're doooone~''. Props for the effort you made~.
:::Anyways, I was kinda expecting they weren't going to specify clearly if there is indeed a particular generic Toad who is portrayed as the representative character of his species. As I said, I don't easily believe in this concept, and these bios affirm my beliefs on this regarding Toad. In fact, I heavily question Kamek being a separate character from Magikoopas on the basis of wonky ''Yoshi's Island'' translation work and bios that mention SMW as his first game even though many say that was only the Magikoopa species and that Kamek "the character" appeared later in ''Yoshi's Island''. And that's pretty much what my '''"no specific generic species members" belief''' is based on.
:::Also, where is it said that Toad's blue color in SM3DW is a reference to SMB2, I must have missed that. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 12:54, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
::::It's not said in the Encyclopedia, of course, it was just my consideration since the name is 「キノピオ」 instead of 「あおキノピオ」 explicitly used for the Blue Toad both in the characters pages and in the NSMBW and NSMBU characters bios. As far as I know, the game where we saw a playable Blue Toad that was named Toad is the NES version of SMB2, and actually all the four main characters and their abilities are taken from that game--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:41, 13 May 2016 (EDT)
:::::There is now [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/kids/character/kinopio/index.html also this site] that might be relevant for the investigation of whether there is a Toad character. By the looks of it, they are still referring to the species, but maybe I'm wrong.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 10:22, 1 June 2016 (EDT)
<s>I don't know how complete you are with the Toad question, but</s> I've got more.<br>
6.) This is specifically about the Memorial Book. Does it have a dedicated section about items as it does about characters? If it does, what does it say about Green Stars?<br>
7.) Is Ice Piranha's (from NSMBU) name アイスパックン ''Ice Pakkun''? Because if it is, then that means it's the same as [[Frost Piranha]] Japanese name wise.<br>
[[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 08:13, 11 May 2016 (EDT)
:Unfortunately Toad is taking more time than I wanted, I can answer the remaining questions as there's much less to say about them.<br />
:6)No, it doesn't, but the Encyclopedia has a section related to the items in each game, including the green stars:<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO GALAXY<br />
:グリーンスター<br />
:試練の扉を開くのに必要な、緑色のパワースター。<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2<br />
:グリーンスター<br />
:パワースターを120個集めると出現する特別なスター。<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO 3D WORLD<br />
:グリーンスター<br />
:コース内にいくつか隠されている。条件を満たすと出現することも。<br />
:<br />
:The name is therefore the same, but the power stars (「パワースター」) are mentioned only in the two Super Mario Galaxy games. As an interesting point of comparison, the Red Power Star in Super Mario Galaxy is referred to as 「レッドパワースター」.<br />
:
:
:{|class="infobox"
:7)As, expected, it is present only in the Encyclopedia, in which the name is exactly the same as those of the ''Paper Mario'' series:<br />
|<div style="background-color: LightSkyBlue; width: 100px;"><div class="statbar" style="background: linear-gradient(to right, mediumturquoise 0px, limegreen 25px, yellow 50px, orange 75px, red 100px); width: 100px; height: 20px; overflow: hidden"></div></div>
:アイスパックン<br />
|'''0'''
:土管から顔を出し、アイスボールを<span class=explain title=""></span>いて攻撃してくる。--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 09:20, 11 May 2016 (EDT)
|-
|<div style="background-color: LightSkyBlue; width: 100px;"><div class="statbar" style="background: linear-gradient(to right, mediumturquoise 0px, limegreen 25px, yellow 50px, orange 75px, red 100px); width: 50px; height: 20px; overflow: hidden"></div></div>
|'''50'''
|-
|<div style="background-color: LightSkyBlue; width: 100px;"><div class="statbar" style="background: linear-gradient(to right, mediumturquoise 0xp, limegreen 25px, yellow 50px, orange 75px, red 100px); width: 0px; height: 20px; overflow: hidden"></div></div>
|'''100'''
|}
:--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:07, April 27, 2020 (EDT)
::Yeah! Something like that. Also, an attack variant would be nice as well, hence why I have the Sports Superstars rectangle on the page. Thank you so much for the speed version. I don't want to copy the miraheze version code-for-code but this works! {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 22:45, April 27, 2020 (EDT)
:::At the moment I think we'll do different templates to keep code simple and to keep the various stats in separate columns (of course, if you want a single column we can put all stats together using one template), today I only have time for [[Template:DMW speed|this]], the speed template, I'll see when I can make the attack template.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:29, April 27, 2020 (EDT)
::::No worries! I'm a very patient person myself, so take your time. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:31, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
:::::Just to clarify, you aim at having stats separated into columns (like the linked site does) or all grouped in one column? Depending on that I can repurpose the template into a general stats template or create separate templates. Plus, is there some kind of stats screen we can base ourselves on for the layout of the templates?—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 15:37, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
::::::I'd like it how the game does it, like the image displayed below, but I think that stats should be in separate templates, because if it was in columns like the Dr Mario World wiki for the main Dr. Mario World article, readers can easily sort the separate stats.
::::::https://i.imgur.com/uKUNpB1.png
::::::{{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:05, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
:::::::I craeted the [[Template:DMW attack|attack template]] as well, are those two templates what you needed?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:47, May 2, 2020 (EDT)
::::::::Yes! Thank you very much! I'll see what I can do with them. Can the defense stat be a template as well? {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:04, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
:::::::::It can be if you want to put the four defenses together, otherwise separate columns with the bomb symbol in the header might be preferable.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 16:21, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
::::::::::I'll be tweaking around with the Dr. Mario World article in a bit, then. Thanks so much for the help! {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:28, May 3, 2020 (EDT)
 
===The attack template is a bit offset from the center===
Hey, this is a bit of a minor thing, but the template is a bit offset from the [[Dr._Mario_World#Doctor_stats|center as it's currently]], is there any way to fix this?
 
https://i.imgur.com/Gk6PjdYl.png
 
-{{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:50, May 5, 2020 (EDT)
:I had used some unbelievably bad coding due to some inexplicable fear of putting images in divs, now I fixed it.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:23, May 6, 2020 (EDT)
::Hey, it's much better than what I could ever do. Thanks for the fix! {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 04:04, May 7, 2020 (EDT)
 
== Non-''Kōshiki'' Japanese guides ==
 
Since you also collect Japanese books, I'm wondering what your thoughts are on [[Special:Diff/2936036|this]]. Specifically, I wonder if you know anything about Japanese law and if unlicensed books are/were allowed to attribute copyright to the rights holder even if technically unauthorized, and if there are decent signifiers or other information in determining if a book has official approval. For [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable sources for naming|Naming]], is there a particular reason why Shogakukan always takes priority? Is it just as a general rule that their guides are official, or does Nintendo have some sort of exclusive licensee agreement with them? Thanks in advance. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:52, May 4, 2020 (EDT)
:Since the Nintendo Kōshiki Guidebook of ''Super Mario World'', I noticed a term used in the official books: 「協力/任天堂株式会社」. If I'm not mistaken, it means that the book was written in collaboration with Nintendo, and I found it in the following books:
:* the ''{{file link|SMSQPB5 Back.png|Super Mario Ehon}}''
:* the ''{{file link|SMCE page 256.png|Super Mario Zen Hyakka}}''
:* the ''{{file link|PEGMCE Last Page.png|Perfect Ban: Mario Character Daijiten}}''
:* the ''{{file link|SMP page 98 opt.png|Super Mario Pia}}''
:* the ''{{file link|MCDSZ Back.png|Mario no Character Dai Shugo Zukan}}''
:The latter two are relevant as they are recent and from different publishers (Pia and Kadokawa). For the sake of completeness, {{file link|SMBD Colophon.png|the ''Super Mario Bros. Daizukan'' uses a similar wording as well}}.
:If such a term is present, you can consider the book official, if no such indication is present, things start to get problematic. Either the book is older than the Nintendo Kōshiki Guidebook of ''Super Mario World'' or the book might effectively not be written in collaboration with Nintendo. I still expect that the use of the Nintendo logo means some kind of approval from Nintendo, but conflicting information or information lacking in all the other sources should be handled with additional care. If there is no Nintendo logo, the book might indeed not be official at all.
:As far as Shogakukan having the priority, effectively its Nintendo Kōshiki Guidebook usually have a few people from Nintendo involved in the publishing, meaning that they see a significant involvement from Nintendo. This has been true since the Nintendo Kōshiki Guidebook of ''Super Mario World'', and Shogakukan basically published all the Nintendo Kōshiki Guidebooks until recent times, when Kadokawa started publishing some official guides as well, [https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/312307100000/ such as that of ''Yoshi's Woolly World''] that has not been published by Shogakukan (and also that picture book that I listed, and that has some interesting claims about {{file link|MCDSZ Toad.png|the ''Super Mario 3D World'' Toad being a Blue Toad}} and about {{file link|MCDSZ SMW Yoshi.png|Yoshi in ''Super Mario World'' being referred to explicitly as a Green Yoshi}}, this latter being technically correct but rather uncommon). I see this as the reason of that rule in this wiki.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:48, May 4, 2020 (EDT)
::That's helpful. I notice Shogakukan's ''Super Mario Advance 3'', ''Super Princess Peach'', and ''Yoshi's New Island'' guides use the phrase 「監修」 instead of 「協力」, and both are used in the Shogakukan ''Yoshi's Story'' guide (with the former seemingly attributed to the company and the latter to individuals) and ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' My copies of Shueisha's V Jump guide of ''Super Mario RPG'' and Takarajimasha's TJ Mook guide of ''Yoshi's Story'' have no such disclaimer, which I expected. My confusion is because the latter credits a 1997 copyright to Nintendo, but since the Takarajimasha copyright and release date are listed as 1998, I assume it might be giving the Nintendo copyright to the game while the Takarajimasha copyright is given to the book, although it's not conveyed very well. My online searches haven't yielded any other explanations, so I'll presume copyright isn't enough and a statement of supervision or collaboration is reliable. I've another question, though: what was the status of guides older than ''Super Mario World''? It's probably moot if ''Super Mario Brothers Kanzen Koryakubon'' turns out to be unlicensed since its English translation, ''How to Win at Super Mario Bros.'', is, but many ''[[Gallery:Super Mario Bros. 2|Super Mario Bros. 2]]'' images are originally sourced from ''Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic'' / ''Super Mario USA'' ''Hisshō Kōryakuhō'', and then there's some Japanese names from ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' guides. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:05, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
:::Well, I found out that the ''Family Computer Hisshō Dōjō ⑦ Super Mario Bros. 2'' and ''Family Computer Hisshō Dōjō ⑪ Super Mario Bros. 1 & 2 Kami Waza Taizenshū'' from Kodansha, published in 1986 and 1987, do have the 「協力/任天堂(株)」 and 「協力/(株)任天堂」 terms respectively, so even though the proper official guides came later, major publishers were already collaborating with Nintendo. Still, it looks like that term is the one you should be looking for.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:17, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
So if I'm understanding this right, would it be your assessment that [https://zeldadungeon.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=252&pid=5794#top_display_media this guide] is probably unofficial like that ''Yoshi's Story'' one? I ask because we have [[:File:LA_Togezo_Futabasha.jpg|artwork]] from it, and while the bestiary bibliography of ''Zelda Encyclopedia'' cites it, it's worse than ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'' in several ways. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:20, July 8, 2020 (EDT)
:Like in the other cases, since we can't exactly know how official it is, it's just best to prioritize guides that are surely official, and be careful about incorporating information from guides of unknown status. With that being said, we don't use information from that guide for the Spiny page, so if there are no equivalent artwork images from official guides, that artwork can work. I'd just rather put it in the ''Scans'' section of the gallery stating the name of the guide from which it was scanned, to be more careful.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 10:43, July 9, 2020 (EDT)
Here's something I found out: some Japanese official sites actually have listings for select guidebooks. For 3DS/Wii U generation they open in separate window, while in the current website setup for Switch games they're found on the "product" page, under "related" which may include other stuff like amiibo. For example, [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/amkj/guidebook/index.html this] is the guide listing for Mario Kart 8 found from the official site. There's Shogakukan's Koshiki guide, two from Kadokawa with different planning and production companies, and one from Tokuma Shoten, the current publisher of Nintendo Dream magazine whose logo is on the cover. Considering this, Kadokawa and NinDori guides could be taken as alternatives if there's none from Shogakukan since such a listing is the closest they get for official acknowledgement. Also note that Tokuma Shoten is the publisher of The Art of Super Mario Odyssey, edited by "Nintendo Dream Editorial Department" (as I've seen advertised) Ambit and its Japanese title means "Offical Setting Documents". [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|talk]]) 14:13, October 18, 2020 (EDT)
<br>One more for now - what do you make of [[User talk:Ma-sansunsun#Bowser's Fury Perfect Guide|this]]? It claims Nintendo's license, but the copyright is obviously attributed to the original game instead of book production; however, following SmokedChili's suggestion, it [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/switch/auzpa/products/relation.html is] seen on Nintendo's official website. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:10, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
:I asked to look for the specific term, after all the Kadokawa character book had it, so I expect other official books from the publisher to have it, especially if they must replace the guides from Shogakukan that might not be published - I'm not sure if Shogakukan will keep publishing the Nintendo Official Guidebooks as they skipped a few titles and last time I checked the site of the Nintendo Official Guidebooks was down.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:37, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
::[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ma-sansunsun&curid=331591&diff=3188989&oldid=3188975 This might be a problem for us], we can't be sure that the names were sourced from Nintendo. At this point for the cat parent page I guess we could use the Twitter name, as the Twitter account is directly managed by Nintendo; not sure about what to do with the other names.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:18, April 27, 2021 (EDT)
:::I suppose, if we can't answer the question if the names are sourced from Nintendo, can we at least determine if the book's Nintendo license is legit? It seems likely if it's mentioned on Nintendo's official website, and if [https://www.models-resource.com/nintendo_switch/supermario3dworldbowsersfury/ The Models Resource] has relatively unaltered texture filenames, then "NekoParent" seems pretty close to ''Oyaneko'' from the Perfect Guide. (As an aside, I noticed your comment [[Talk:Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury#Real Name?|here]] - if you have access to ''Bowser's Fury''-exclusive tracks, do you have access to the Switch version's model filenames? If so, what are the ones for the new objects (many of them are listed over [[Talk:Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury#Conjectural names|here]])?) I agree in theory with updating [[MarioWiki:Naming#Acceptable sources for naming|Naming]] to distinguish official Nintendo web content from licensees and possibly putting them at a higher place than guides. And I also noticed that Shogakukan seems to be skipping a few recent games - for instance, there's an official Nintendo Dream guide for the Switch remake of ''The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening'', with 「監修」 attributed to 「任天堂株式会社」 but no sign of a Shogakukan edition. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:35, May 25, 2021 (EDT)
::::Sadly, I only have access to the Wii U version files. The foler containing the models is renamed and the model files use the same name of the folder, but ''NekoParent'' really looks like an internal name, Plessie's model too from ''Super Mario 3D World''  has the internal ''Raidon'' strings in the texture files and other places so it looks like they only rename the folder and the model. I think you can report this on the page for the Oyaneko. Shogakukan doesn't seem to be any longer in charge of the Nintendo Official Guidebooks, the site for said guidebooks is no longer up. If this is confirmed (we need to see when the last Nintendo Official Guidebook from Shogakukan was published) we'll likely have to update the naming policy to account for that and to also account for the official material from Nintendo released on their sites and on official social media channels.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:18, May 26, 2021 (EDT)
 
== Color Splash bestiary ==
 
Hi. Do you have any documentation on the Color Splash file formats from your work on the bestiary? I'm looking into unused data in the game. --[[User:Hiccup|Hiccup]] ([[User talk:Hiccup|talk]]) 13:06, June 7, 2020 (EDT)
:The files use the {{wp|Executable and Linkable Format|elf}} format, which is a very odd way of storing data (it's as if they stored part of the game code using the variables insterad of just storing the data). The data is in the ''.data'' and ''.rodata'' sections of the files.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:03, June 7, 2020 (EDT)
::Speaking of which, do you have anything to add [[User talk:SmokedChili#Re:Big Buzzy Beetle internal name in Color Splash|here]]? Namely, I wonder if the unit table references the final Japanese names (like Petea Piranha) or if the strings show some differing names. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:55, July 21, 2020 (EDT)
:::I answered there, since it looks like you're starting to look at the internal files of ''Paper Mario: Color Splash'', most of the enemy-related strings are found in <tt>vol/content/data/btl/data_btl.elf</tt>, in the ''.rodata'' section of the elf file.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 08:19, July 22, 2020 (EDT)
::::Oh, I see, I was looking at the wrong file for Japanese. Thanks. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:03, July 22, 2020 (EDT)
 
== Movie Iggy ==
 
While the scripts page on the [http://www.smbmovie.com/ movie]'s fan site isn't loading, I do recall one having a "Morton" and a "Wendy" as well. Just by the way. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:08, June 30, 2020 (EDT)
:Honestly, we need to verify, the movie was very liberal in the use of names thanks to that final scene that clarified that those aren’t the game characters, so much like Daisy who likely was Peach, Iggy might refer to someone else.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:52, June 30, 2020 (EDT)
::Morton and Wendy were reporters in a scene that was a deadly golf-style game featuring Thwomps and Piranha Plants, and Iggy existed in that revision as well. Seems like an early idea that's kin of a relic in the final. The post-credits thing wasn't in that revision; their fate was instead working as plumbers under the Marios along with the Scapelli bros. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:12, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
:::Thanks for managing to find the preliminary script! Honestly, that makes it even more puzzling. Reference to the Koopalings? Random names put there because these names are used in the ''Super Mario'' series so let’s just use them as well? At least in the case of Yoshi and Daisy their role was recognizable, but here... the best we can say is that the ''Iggy'' name is the only used one in the final movie, but in my opinion it’s very hard to guess whether that character is meant to represent Iggy Koopa or any other Koopaling (or maybe not even a Koopaling).--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 07:12, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
::::The script page is still down for me, this is just what I remember (it was a very memorable scene to cut since they actually tried to adapt some of the games with comparatively less "total reimagining" involved). Also, another scene had the devolution chamber operator be named "Blooper" for seemingly no reason other than "hehe random game name" (even though they were generally called "Bloobers" then; may be misremembering something, but given another script spells Snifit as "Sniff-it," may have just been muddled). Anyways, think I've gotten off-track here, I agree that's probably the best thing to do. No reason to take it any more seriously than Big Bertha or the various business names. Another thing to note is I ''think'' (but could be wrong) at least one script called the electric police cars "Koopa Troopamobiles," thus implying that in the film, the generic police are actually the counterparts to Troopas. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:31, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
 
== Mario Kart 8 Deluxe data ==
 
Hi Mister Wu. I've noticed you have been delving into Mario Kart Tour datamine and item probabilities. I was hoping if you had any information regarding Mario Kart 8 Deluxe? I have done a lot of digging into the Item.bin file of MK8D and spent hours trying to decipher the information to no avail. Might you have any ideas to lead me into the right direction of understanding the item probabilities in MK8D? Thanks for any advice you may have  --Waver 05:36, August 2, 2020 (EDT)
:At the time I had transcribed the ''Mario Kart 8'' item probability tables as well as the distance table, and you can read [[Mario Kart 8 item probability distributions|here]] the mapping of the various initial sections of the Item.bin file (with ''ITDS'' being used for distances and ''ITRT'' being the Item React Table) but ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'' relies on multiple following tables that, for example, allow Bob-ombs in 1st place despite them being absent from the main probability tables. As an example, the previously hardcoded item restrictions might be coded in these tables as well, they are:
:* Time that must pass from the beginning of the race before the item can be obtained
:* How many items of a certain type can be obtained at once
:* How much time must pass after the last limit has been reached before the items can be obtained again
:Furthermore, it seems that ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe'' relies on current position as well as distance from the frontrunner, making the probability tables much more complex and very hard to understand. To better explain why in ''Mario Kart 7'' and ''Mario Kart Tour'' it was easier to obtain relevant data (beside the hardcoded item restrictions of ''Mario Kart 7'' that had to be discovered by playing) ''Mario Kart 7'' used headers for both the tables and the single rows and columns, whereas ''Mario Kart Tour'' uses the variable names for the tables and a lot of item-related values, allowing better insight into how the game is developed.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:57, August 2, 2020 (EDT)
 
== A Ludwig request ==
 
Recently, I played the MS-DOS version of Mario is Missing, and I noticed how nice the Ludwig sprites in the game look. Because of that, I plan on using him in my sprite comic, but other than the image that you have uploaded to the wiki and a single screenshot, I was unable to find any of the Ludwig sprites online. I checked Mario Fan Games Galaxy/MFGG, The Spriters Resource/TSR, and various other websites for the last few months, but I could not find any of the sprites. Because of this, could you please rip all of Ludwig Von Koopa's sprites from the LUDTLKS object in the CD-ROM Deluxe version of Mario is Missing. I do not need Ludwig's death animation/turning black and crumbling, just his normal animation in his area with the five doors. If you decide to rip the Ludwig sprites, please add them as a PNG file of a sprite sheet with a transparent background on this talk page. I will also give you credit for ripping Ludwig Von Koopa's sprites in my sprite comic. {{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 3:00, 17 August 2020 (EST)
:I can't do this here, as we use sprite sheets only for unreleased material; what I can do is making a GIF showing the whole animation, since the sprites have 37 unique colors (including the color that is then assigned to Alpha), it is doable without any loss of information.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 07:46, August 18, 2020 (EDT)
::[[:File:MIM Ludwig.gif|There it is]]. The feet seem to have two transparent pixels in all the frames but one, it looks like they used the castle background to complete the sprite.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 08:40, August 18, 2020 (EDT)
Thank you for doing this and for doing this so quickly, Mister Wu. Ludwig has always been my favorite Koopaling ever since I played Super Mario Bros 3 on my original NES back in 2013. He was the only Koopaling I died to more than once in that game, and is the only Koopaling I have a action figure of. My upcoming sprite comic is based off of the MS-DOS/CD-ROM Deluxe version of Mario is Missing, as it was much better than I had expected. Also, how did you rip Ludwig from the VANIM file. I have viewed the file before and I have not figured out which parts of the file correspond to which sprites, as I have wanted to rip the backgrounds from the game, mainly the background for the ending where Bowser is embarrassed by Luigi pulling off his shell. {{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 5:21, 18 August 2020 (EST)
:You need to extract the files from the archive before (the developers used the PKWARE Data Compression Library if I remember correctly), plus you need to find the castle palette file which is in another folder from what I remember (the palette file should be named as ''CX_P'', where X is a number indicating the Xth room).—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:39, August 18, 2020 (EDT)
Oh ok, but is there an official name for the castle rooms that have the 5 doors and the Koopalings? Also, other than the sprites that you have ripped, have any of the Koopalings or the backgrounds from this game ever been ripped before? In addition to that, are the city backgrounds ripped in the same way as the castle rooms, and are characters like the other Koopalings ripped in the same way? {{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 7:32, 18 August 2020 (EST)
:I’m not aware of a systematic data mining and extraction on the game, I just investigated the files a little when another editor was making pages on this wiki related to the game. As far as I remember, the rooms were just internally labeled ''CX'' with X being a number.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 11:38, August 19, 2020 (EDT)
I thought that they might have had an official name, but I understand why they wouldn't do that. Could you make a tutorial on how to extract sprites from the VANIM file, mainly Bowser, and the ending backgrounds, as I think that making a tutorial for me would be easier for you than ripping the sprites yourself. If it is easier to just rip Bowser and the ending backgrounds yourself than to make a tutorial, then you can do that instead. {{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 8:23, 19 August 2020 (EST)
I have noticed that you have not responded to this for over 10 days. Have you just not seen it or have you just been working on a tutorial? Now, because I am new to Mario wiki, I am not sure if I seem impatient or if this is understandable. I also found a rip of Bowser, Mario, Luigi, and Yoshi on Mario Fan Games Galaxy/MFGG, however I am not sure if the palette for those rips are correct or if all of the sprites for them are on the sheet. Here is a link to the sheet [https://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb&param=02&c=1&id=36549 Click on this for the sheet] . {{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 4:37, 31 August 2020 (EST)
:There are issues with what you’re asking: part of it is difficult to justify on the wiki, which is not a repository of every sprite of the games, so uploading it might be a problem, the tutorial on the other hand is problematic as well, as I had to modify a script ad hoc, the need to publish said script or linking it here could be an issue for us. In these days I was noticing these issues and I was going to discuss them. If the sprites you found are what you’re looking for, it would be better if you used these.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:57, August 31, 2020 (EDT)
Oh, I understand now, but is the palette for the sprites on that rip correct? Also, while I do like those, I have long wanted the background for the scene where Bowser is deshelled by Luigi, because I have always like it's design. Is there some way for you or someone else to post a rip of that background on Mario Fan Games Galaxy/MFGG, The Spriters Resource/TSR, or any other sprite repository website? I am sorry for asking so much of you, but this is the first time I have ever done anything involving ripping sprites. {{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 8:20, 1 September 2020 (EST)
Also, if you don't want to do that, you could make gifs of the other Koopaling's animations, manly Iggy's jumping animation, as while I could rip it from Mario's Early Years: Fun With Letters, those sprites do not look as good as the ones from Mario is Missing. In addition to that, while Ludwig is my favorite Koopaling, it feels weird that he is the only one with a gif of his MS-DOS Mario is Missing sprites.
{{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 10:11, 5 September 2020 (EST)
:This could take quite sone time, at this point we’re going way beyond the original request, if you have an account on Discord it’s better if we discuss there.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 15:00, September 5, 2020 (EDT)
 
== The Software Toolworks's Koopalings ==
 
Now, unfortunately, I do not have Discord. My parents have said that they will never get me it. However, as the title for this new section suggests, I would like rips of the other Koopalings from the MS-DOS version of Mario is Missing, manly gifs of their animations from the VANIM file, like you did with Ludwig Von Koopa. The files that I want the animations ripped from are the IGGTLKS, ROYTLKS, WENTLKS, and AKLANS files. While Ludwig Von Koopa is my favorite Koopaling, having a gif for him and no other Koopaling from this game does not feel right. If I use sprites from these gifs in my sprite comic, which I will if you rip them, I will credit you for ripping the Koopalings. If you decide to rip the other Koopalings, I would like them to be uploaded as gifs with transparent backgrounds, like what you did with Ludwig Von Koopa. In addition to that, I would prefer if they were ripped and uploaded in this order: Iggy, Roy, Wendy, Larry, though you can rip and upload them in any order you like, as long as they all eventually get ripped and uploaded as gif images.
{{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 7:38, 6 September 2020 (EST)
Also, if you want to, you could also rip the the death animations, but it is not necessary, as I only really need the normal animation for each Koopaling.
{{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 3:03, 6 September 2020 (EST)
 
Now, I do not think that ripping and uploading gifs of Iggy, Roy, Wendy, Larry is too many sprites from Mario is Missing. The main reason for this is because of how many other games on Mario Wiki that have the Koopalings have gifs for the Koopalings, such as Superstar Saga, so why would the MS-DOS version of Mario is Missing not get the same treatment. In addition to that, Ludwig Von Koopa already has a gif for him from this game, and while he is my favorite Koopaling, it just does not feel right to have a gif for him, and no gif for any of the other Koopalings from the MS-DOS version of Mario is Missing.
{{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 7:15, 13 September 2020 (EST)
:Please don't make too many edits here, they won't speed up the upload. I'm finding issues with both reuse of frames as well as unused frames being thrown there. Plus be warned that these are copyrighted sprites, their display here should qualify as fair use, but other uses might not.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 12:52, September 14, 2020 (EDT)
 
Oh ok, I am sorry for doing so many needless edits, as I thought that you did not see the update, and because of that, I thought that if I did an update, you would be able to see it. Aside from that, thank you for ripping Iggy Koopa from the  VANIM file. I also did not know that there where any unused sprites in the MS-DOS version of Mario is Missing.
{{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 1:31, 14 September 2020 (EST)
 
I would like to ask you something. Is there a particular reason why no more Mario is Missing MS-DOS Koopaling gifs have been uploaded? It is perfectly fine if you just forgot to rip the other Koopalings, or if you were too busy with other things. Now, while I am not complaining, it took about a week for Iggy Koopa to be uploaded, and because of that, I thought that a Koopaling gif would be uploaded weekly until all the Koopalings from Mario is Missing MS-DOS had gifs. Now, it has been about two weeks, and no more Koopaling gifs have been uploaded. While I am not angry, or disappointed, or impatient, I just wanted to remind you if you forgot. Now, if Roy or any of the other Koopalings are almost ready to be uploaded, you can continue with with the ripping and uploading of them. But, if there is a specific problem with Roy Koopa, it would be fine if you just skipped him for now and moved on to Wendy or Larry. Also, is there anything I could do to help you with this?
{{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 12:05, 27 September 2020 (EST)
:There’s not a fixed timing for the upload, the week-ends have been busier than usual. You can’t really help as I can only use this wiki to discuss with you.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:12, September 27, 2020 (EDT)
Oh ok, I was not sure if you just forgot to rip the sprites or if something else was coming up. I'm guessing from what you said you were just busy.
{{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 7:33, 27 September 2020 (EST)
Thank you for uploading ripping and uploading Roy Koopa to the Wiki.
{{User|MarioIsMissingDos}} 7:17, 5 October 2020 (EST)
 
== Kart Variants - Another Question ==
 
So I think being able to decide kart and glider variants based on in-game filing and textures will definitely be useful to separate those ones out. I was just wondering if you knew anything about the [[8-Bit Pipe Frame]], it was originally listed as "new variant" (I guess because somebody figured it's a "type" of Pipe Frame), but as the modelling is totally different I changed it to "retro variant" (the term I'm also using on the SNES driver variants), since it's possible that the modelled parts of the 8-Bit Pipe Frame are swapped out, but the same skeleton is used with the regular Pipe Frame (think along the lines of Echo Fighters in Smash, using the same skeleton for animations but different models). So I was wondering if you had information that could clearly distinguish the 8-Bit Pipe Frame as "new" or "new variant"? [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 22:07, November 5, 2020 (EST)
:To have the 8-bit effect you need a new model, and indeed the kart model is stored in the separate <tt>skldot</tt> folder - ''Skeleton'' is the Japanese name of the Pipe Frame, ''dot'' is the Japanese term for ''pixel''. Still, I like the ''retro variant'' moniker, it tells us that it's technically new but meant to be a retro take on already existing drivers, karts or gliders.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:25, November 5, 2020 (EST)
 
== A phrasing question ==
 
Hello. I'm currently in the process of adding the availability of each kart and glider to their respective pages, and I feel it is important to note whether you can obtain them from pipes in every tour or just specific tours. To do this, I say "This kart is (not) available in pipes regularly", or "This kart is (not) a regular item in pipes". However, I think this phrasing might not be entirely correct: saying that an item is a "regular" implies that you're guaranteed to get it at some point when you pull any pipe, not to mention that the term might be confused for the game's Normal classification used to indicate the low rarity of certain items. As I was searching for potential in-game terms that could describe things found in pipes, I found "Appearance Rate" in a pipe's "Details" link, referring to any group of items in a pipe that share the same appearance rate. I thought I could perhaps make use of this official terminology for a new phrasing, and I was wondering if you have any suggestions to give me with this term or otherwise. Thank you in advance. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 20:21, November 11, 2020 (EST)
:Well, ''Appearance rate'' there means ''probability of getting''. So far no term has been used to define the drivers, karts and gliders available in every main tour pipe, we gradually started noticing how some of these were available in every pipe, furthermore when the All-Clear Pipe was introduced, the players soon noticed that as soon as an High-End item became available in every main tour pipe, it immediately became available in the All-Clear Pipe as well. Furthermore, for two consecuitive tours an High-End item available in every pipe was added in the Tier Shop, there's little reason not to expect that this will be the trend in every tour. As far as naming is concerned though, despite their increasing relevance the items in this pool available in every main tour pipe haven't been given a proper name. The best we can do is trying to describe the way through which we can obtain the item in the easiest/cheapest way possible.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:15, November 11, 2020 (EST)
::"''This kart has had a chance of appearing in certain pipes only.''" and "''This kart regularly has a chance of appearing in pipes.''" Would you say these sound better, considering we don't have a proper name for main tour pipes and special pipes? I think this variant communicates the fact of the matter without discriminating between any two particular types of pipe. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 13:38, November 12, 2020 (EST)
:::Here we're lucky, there is a term for the main tour pipes used in the internal news: they are known as ''First Pipe'' and ''Second Pipe''. Therefore we can say: ''available/not available in the First Pipe and Second Pipe of each tour'', the special pipes all have a name, so if you want to specify the availability you have to say ''available in the [name of the special pipe] of the [name of the tour]''. You need to do the same for the ruby packs, that have their own name, whereas stand-alone items are sold as ''commemorative'', for example the ''Sunset Cloud'' is the ''Sunset Tour Commemorative Kart''. You can find the name of the special pipes in the respective tour pages, but we're completely missing coverage of the tour packs and commemorative items.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 15:42, November 12, 2020 (EST)
::::Thank you for the information you gave me; I'll proceed from there. As you can see [[Kabuki Dasher|here]] and [[B Dasher#Mario Kart Tour|here]], for example, I use a table to list all the particular examples of availability for a kart, including special pipes and ruby packs. I just needed a good way to refer to the "general" pipes where these karts have a chance to appear, if any. Should you have anything to correct/add to those articles in this regard, I would be glad if you did! {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 15:55, November 12, 2020 (EST)
:::::I think the wording and table work well for the main pages, you can go on.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 16:57, November 12, 2020 (EST)
 
== I can't upload any Korean images for SM3DW + BF ==
 
I tried to upload the Korean logos and box art for Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury, but it just won't allow me. It shows me some strange error instead that I don't even know how to fix. If you can upload them for me, here's the [https://www.nintendo.co.kr/software/switch/auzpa/ Korean website for the game]. [[User:Gold Luigi|Gold Luigi]] ([[User talk:Gold Luigi|talk]]) 08:48, January 25, 2021 (EST)
:Done! Hopefully I uploaded everything that was needed, in case tell me!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:36, January 26, 2021 (EST)
 
==I can't upload more images ==
 
I tried to upload the Korean logo for the Super Mario Bros. 35th anniversary, but like with the Korean SM3DW+BF images, it doesn't allow me to upload this one for some reason and I still don't know how to fix it. And in fact, when I tried to send you the links this time around, it prevented me to send this message to you because my '''spam filter''' detected the following part of the links as illegal: ''.kor/software/switch/35'' (NOTE: the letter "o" on the "kor" wasn't present on the actual link, I added it so my spam filter doesn't detect it) Unfortunately, I still don't know how to fix it. And now that I'm talking to you again, I also told [[User talk:Hope(N Forever)|Hope(N Forever)]] a while ago to upload the South African box art for M&S Tokyo 2020, as I found both the link and the source to it, but I don't know how to edit an image so that I don't include any unneccessary parts. However, he didn't do anything about it, nor did he respond to me. [[User:Gold Luigi|Gold Luigi]] ([[User talk:Gold Luigi|talk]]) 12:03, March 13, 2021 (EST)
:At this point, rather than asking me every time, it's much better if I tell you how I did that the last time: I did not use the direct upload from the web address, I just downloaded the image on my computer and then uploaded it on the wiki. This can be done also on mobile phones and tablets, as both iOS and Android have fully featured file managers. It's better if you do the same so you can learn how to do it, it's a pretty simple solution.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:46, March 13, 2021 (EST)
 
== SM3DWBF sprites ==
 
I saw you uploaded [[:File:SM3DW BF Plessie Loading Swimming.gif|this GIF of Plessie]] on the ''Bowser's Fury'' loading screen. When you have the time, do you think you could upload the other sprites for Mario, Bowser Jr., and Fury Bowser? I'd like to add them to the gallery for the game. [[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 18:16, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
:I'm not sure I'll be able to prepare the animations soon. It took me much more time than I anticipated to prepare the Plessie animation, as the sequence reuses sprites. It would be better if someone else prepared and uploaded them.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:34, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
::Don't worry, that's fine. I'll do it when I have the time. [[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 23:43, June 4, 2021 (EDT)
 
== Re: TTYD Piranha Plant’s tattles ==
 
Don't worry, getting these is no trouble for me. Here's the Tattles in all languages, and I translated the Spanish one.
 
{|width=40% cellspacing=0 border=2 cellpadding=3;" style="border-collapse:collapse
|-
!Language
!Tattle
!Translation
|-
|Japanese
|『キラーパックン』よ<br>
パックンフラワーの<r>中<Rなか>でも<br>
コイツが さいきょうみたい
 
さいだいHPは『15』で<br>
こうげき<r>力<Rりょく>は『9』 ぼうぎょ<r>力<Rりょく>は『0』よ<br>
おそろしい こうげき<r>力<Rりょく>だわ・・・
 
<r>一見<Rいっけん> ふつうの パックンフラワーに<br>
<r>見<Rみ>えるけど なかみは <r>大<Rおお>ちがいだから<br>
ゆだんしちゃ ダメよ
 
こんな ヘンテコな フラワーに<br>
やられたら やりきれないわ
|
|-
|Spanish
|Esta Planta Piraña parece<br>
de las más fuertes de<br>
su especie.
 
PC Máximos: 15<br>
Poder de ataque: 9<br>
Poder de defensa: 0
 
Ese poder de ataque es<br>
exagerado, terrible...
 
Por eso cometeríamos un<br>
grave error al pensar que<br>
esta es normal y corriente.
 
No me haría ninguna<br>
gracia terminar devorada<br>
por un hierbajo como ese...
|This Piranha Plant seems like<br>
the strongest of<br>
its species. ''(this can also mean "kind" or "sort")''
 
Max HP: 15<br>
Attack Power: 9<br>
Defense Power: 0
 
That attack power is<br>
excessive, terrible...
 
That is why we would make a<br>
grave mistake in thinking that<br>
this is normal and ordinary.
 
I wouldn't be<br>
happy to end up devoured<br>
by a weed like that... ''("weed" is used as a derogatory and pejorative term)''
|-
|French
|C'est un Piranha Tueur.<br>
Chez les Plantes piranha,<br>
il n'y a pas pire.
 
PC Max: 15, Puissance: 9,<br>
Défense: 0.<br>
Ça fait mal!
 
Ça ressemble à une<br>
Plante piranha ordinaire, mais<br>
la différence est mordante!
 
Je ne pourrais pas supporter<br>
l'idée de me faire avoir par<br>
une plante aussi bizarre!
|
|-
|German
|Das ist ein Killer-Piranha.<br>
Killer-Piranhas sind die Killer<br>
unter den Piranha-Pflanzen.
 
Max KP: 15, Angriffskraft: 9,<br>
Verteidigung: 0<br>
Das sind ja echte Killer!
 
Auf den ersten Blick wirken<br>
sie wie ganz normale Piranha-<br>
Pflanzen...
 
Aber du solltest dich vor<br>
ihnen extrem hüten.
 
Es wäre doch zu dumm, von<br>
so einer verrückten Blume<br>
besiegt zu werden, oder?
|
|-
|Italian
|È una Pianta Piranha!<br>
Fra le Piante Piranha, questa<br>
è decisamente la più potente.
 
I suoi PV massimi sono 15,<br>
la potenza è 9, la difesa è 0.<br>
La potenza è strepitosa, no?
 
A prima vista sembra una<br>
Pianta Piranha normale, ma<br>
la differenza è esorbitante!
 
Non potrei sopportare<br>
l'idea di essere sconfitta<br>
da questo vegetale!
|
|}
{{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 17:32, August 24, 2021 (EDT)
 
==Yoshi Koopa==
Regarding [[Special:Diff/3465024#Yoshi the Koopa|this]] - are there any Japanese instances of Yoshi being referred to as a Koopa specifically (meaning of the Turtle Tribe)? The only source I'm aware of is the English ''All-Stars Limited Edition'' history booklet reference, and it could very well be a mislocalization. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 23:37, September 26, 2021 (EDT)
:[https://ameblo.jp/gsball/entry-10891620941.html It's indeed that booklet]. It was published before Tezuka eventually revealed that he redesigned Yoshi as a turtle, so at the time he rather mentioned the Turtle Tribe. Sadly, I couldn't find a good scan of the Japanese booklet so far.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 03:47, September 27, 2021 (EDT)
 
== Help Translating Monty Mole Species Guidebook Scans ==
 
Hey uh, mind translating the info from guidebook scans seen in some areas of the Mario Wiki since you uploaded them? I decided to list the ones I found that I wanted to know what they say when they are translated;
[[File:SMCE page 45.png|100px|left|thumb]]
[[File:SMCE page 44.png|100px|thumb|center]]
[[File:SMCE pages 168 169.png|200px|thumb|right]]
[[File:SMBD page 40.png|100px|thumb|left]]
[[File:SMBD page 60.png|100px|right|thumb]]
[[File:PEGMCE page 41.png|100px|thumb|left]]
[[File:PEGMCE page 112.png|100px|thumb|center]]
[[File:PEGMCE page 183.png|100px|thumb|right]]
[https://imgur.com/YxfTGsQ page 112]
 
Oh also could you translate the Japanese Origami King dialogue seen here: https://www.marioboards.com/threads/44397/, thanks for your time.
 
Oh and another thing. Could you tell me all the Mario Picture Books that have Monty Mole species and provide scans please? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 02:28, October 26, 2021 (EDT)
:I personally use automated translators with the help of [https://jisho.org Jisho], I never really studied Japanese. Before asking people who can properly translate from Japanese, I would however recommend using automated translators to translate the text so you can find what is actually relevant to ask, otherwise it's almost impossible that someone will be able to translate the massive amount of Japanese material related to Monty Moles.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 16:22, October 26, 2021 (EDT)
 
Oh ok, do you know anyone who could translate all of this? Also could you at least send me scans of every Monty Mole species appearance in the Mario Picture Books (no need for translation, at least just the scans. Also Rocky Wrench and Ragumo count to)? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 18:23, October 26, 2021 (EDT)
:I don't think there could be someone who can translate all the material above in decent time, it's too much work. You need to use the automated translators first and see what is actually relevant. Similarly, due to copyright issues we likely can't host all the scans of the pages containing Monty Moles, we can only host a limited number of scans from each book.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:50, October 26, 2021 (EDT)
 
Oh ok, is it possible to at least get descriptions of what Monty Mole species did in each picture book? And also which ones had Monty Mole species since it technically isn’t showing images? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 00:10, October 27, 2021 (EDT)
:Of the books I have, these contained Monty Moles:
:'''Annex/ARTMIC books'''
:* [[Media:SMFPB1 Paratroopa Monty Mole Battle.png|Tanoshī Super Mario Ehon ① Super Star o Sagase]] (non-stock artwork Monty Mole escaping)
:'''Shogakukan Super Mario Ehon series'''
:* [[Media:SMSQPB2 Tug of War.png|Super Mario o hanashi Quiz Ehon ② Mario no un dō kai]] (stock artwork Mega Mole)
:* [[Media:SMSQPB5 Roller Coaster.png|Sūpāmario o hanashi Quiz Ehon ⑤ Mario no yu uen chi]] (non-stock artwork Monty Mole at the park and in a whack-a-mole game)
:* Hatte Hagaseru Shīru-Tsuki Super Mario Ehon ①: Yoshi o Torimodose (stock artwork Monty Mole and Mega Mole)
:* [[Media:SMWGPB4 Cover.png|Super Mario Chie Asobi Ehon ④ Larry No Itazura]] (non-stock artwork Monty Mole going out of the ground, at least the one of the cover could be uploaded)
:* Super Mario Meiro Ehon ④ Kieta Peach Hime (stock artwork Monty Mole)
:* Super Mario Game Ehon ③ Mario to Yoshi (stock artwork Monty Mole)
:When we have an image of the Monty Moles uploaded on the wiki, I added a link.
:As you can see, in pretty much all cases Monty Moles don't have an active role in the story, luckily most non-stock artowrk images have been uploaded, which is good as we still don't know how much of the books we can upload, making further uplaod fro mthe already covered books problematic. In any case, we still don't have coverage of the books in the wiki, so I don't think it would be a very wise idea to include all the times Monty Moles were featured, especially considering their marginal role in the books so far. Maybe only the first case would have something to it, and everything is contained in these two pages, Monty Moles don't appear elsewhere in that book.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 11:36, November 1, 2021 (EDT)
 
==Fire Ponkey Packun==
In light of [[Special:Diff/3504069#TCRF Bullet Bill|this]] [[Special:Diff/3504089#Biting Bullet + Pipe Lakitu|exchange]] - you wouldn't happen to have anything on hand that might in any way help to elaborate on the relationship between Panser, Lava Lotus, Volcano Lotus, and Wild Ptooie Piranha, would you? Also, do you know anything that corroborates Nintendo Power's claim of Lava Lotus being related to [[Talk:Lava Lotus|Piranha Plant]]? Lastly: do you know if other guide books name the subtypes of Fire Bar? Thanks, take your time. EDIT: Oh, also, if "Lakitu in a pipe" from ''Super Mario World'' has its own name in other sources, a la "''Ōfuku Killer''". [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:12, November 15, 2021 (EST)
:Sadly at the moment I don't have access to the books, hopefully in the next weeks I'll regain access but it might take a while.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:36, November 20, 2021 (EST)
::I totally understand. I hope you don't mind since it's a lot at once, but I did think of one more: if there's anything that points to a more direct relation between Nipper Plant and Muncher. They haven't appeared in the same game together since ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', but Muncher looks based on Nipper Plant. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:03, December 5, 2021 (EST)
::Sorry, I do have one more thing (and this is whenever there's a chance if possible): if there's anything you can add regarding [[Talk:Lava Bubble#Super Mario Land 2?|Lava Bubble in ''Super Mario Land 2'']]. Also, I figured you'd be interested to know that [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan P4.jpg|I've]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan P5.jpg|uploaded]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan P6.jpg|a]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan P7.jpg|number]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan P8.jpg|of]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan P9.jpg|scans]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan 10.jpg|from]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan 11.jpg|the]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan 58.jpg|''Yoshi's]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan 59.jpg|Egg'']] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan 60.jpg|Shogakukan]] [[:File:Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan 61.jpg|guide]], since it pads the book out with stuff related to ''Super Mario World''. I've added some of the obscure info like the Dinosaur Land origin and Rex and Yoshi having some sort of common ancestry, but there are also (gag-ish?) pages detailing things like Yoshi's daily routine and other Yoshi cultures. I thought I'd leave it to you on how best to present this info. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:38, February 25, 2022 (EST)
::One last thing I forgot to mention earlier: if you know of any solid info regarding [[Talk:Spike Top#Consider this a Spiny derivative as well as a Buzzy Beetle derivative?|Spike Top's connection to Spiny]]. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:16, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
:I can only reply to the first question, for now, but I have good news: both {{file link|SMCE page 51.png|Shogakukan's ''Super Mario Zen Hyakka''}} and {{file link|SMBD page 50.png|Kodansha's ''Super Mario bros. Daizukan''}} have material related to the matter: the similarity between Lava Lotus and Volcano Lotus is acknowledged (but they are considered different in both books), while the Daizukan, that also covers ''Super Mario USA'', states that Panser and Volcano Lotus are one and the same - but again, there is the issue of the shared name. ''Super Mario: Ysohi's Island'' was released later, so its enemies coudl not be covered by those books.
:When it comes to Yoshi, the early Nintendo official guidebooks from APE had plenty of oddities, the art style clearly indicated that the vast majority of the "information" was not to be taken seriosuly as an actual rendition of Yoshi in the games, books and related material to come (although the fact that {{file link|MKT_Artwork_YoshiKangaroo.png|we ''did'' end up with an Australian Yoshi wearing a Crocodile Dundee style cowboy hat}} is pretty amusing when looking at {{file link|Yoshi no Tamago Shogakukan 60.jpg|this page}}). At best we might put it into the trivia sections of the Yoshi or Yoshi's species page, if we can condense what is written there. The relationship with Rex instead might be more interesting, in that [[tcrf:Development:Super Mario World (SNES)/Sprites|during development Yoshi wasn't just a dragon because that is synonymous with ''dinosaur'' in Japan]]. In this sense, the closest to the ''dragon'' Yoshi could only be another dragon - Rex. As such, we might add that at the beginning he was seen as a relative of Rex in the nature (of the species) section of Yoshi's page, as an indication of how at the time Yoshi was definitely seen as a dragon-dinosaur.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:53, March 1, 2022 (EST)
 
== Super Mario Pia ==
 
Hey, I am wondering if you could provide scans for the Monty Mole species appearances in Super Mario Pia (including Ragumo and Rocky Wrench). Thanks if you can help. [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 23:00, December 4, 2021 (EST)
:What is written above still holds true: at the moment I don't have access to my books and I don't know when I will regain said access. It might take a few weeks.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:34, December 4, 2021 (EST)
::I did buy it so no need to worry on that, although I am curious, did it ever say that Monty Mole or Rocky Wrench appeared in Mario Galaxy (which is wrong)? Is Super Mario Pia also a creditable source? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 23:42, December 5, 2021 (EST)
 
== Thanks ==
 
Thanks for playing the 2-Player Challenge with me! I rarely get to play it. I'm also sorry about the internet issue. {{User:WildWario/sig}} 22:21, February 24, 2022 (EST)
 
== The time is now ==
 
[[Talk:Yoshi (species)#Potential to merge to Yoshi|Prepare for the storm.]] [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:46, April 15, 2022 (EDT)
:I've seen it, honestly with the current "the Yoshi" approach we were trying to have I was even wondering and inspecting the material we have to see if we should consider a ''Yoshi (Mario Kart Tour)'' page for that yellow Yoshi with orange shoes named just ''Yoshi'' that is becoming a recurring driver in that game... the festivities are close so I'll have troubles following the discussions in the next days, I guess that for now I'll let the dust settle, in a few days I'll see if there's something I can post there - it's almost impossible for us to have the Japanese approach where individuality and species aren't that set apart, especially in the name, so discussions will always be lengthy and without a clearly "right" solution. By the way, happy Easter or, if you don't celebrate it, have a great week-end!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 09:47, April 16, 2022 (EDT)
 
==Re:Filepath usage==
:I understand, but what about cases where the filename is exactly the same between games but the extension or filepath is different, like what often happens between ''New Super Mario Bros.'' installments? Or cases where it's a string from a specific file, as in <tt>ObjNameTable.arc/ObjNameTable.tbl</tt> from both the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' games, but the filepath is different? Or instances like ''Super Mario Sunshine'' where the files for each level/location are duplicated for the relevant archive (I left the references for that game alone for that reason, using the earliest-appearing instance)? Isn't it redundant to have to list all of these when they give the same result? If not, maybe the parameters ought to be adjusted or the references shouldn't be deleted? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:16, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
::Ideally, in both cases you cited, we could use the <code>Name</code> field to give the actual internal name, as in both cases the file path gives the context, while the "meat" is either the file name or the string contained in the file. This means that the <code>file</code> field would give us context, while the <code>name</code> field would give us the actual content. I already did that for cases like <tt>YoshiEasterGolden</tt>, whose capitalized version is actually found in the AssetBundle and is featured in the <code>Name</code> field. If you want to have the file path as reference instead, this is also sensible and has its merits, of course, so if you have an idea on how to use both the <code>file</code> and <code>name</code> template when the path is provided as reference we can make a talk page proposal to see which approach we could use.
::When it come to duplicates within the same game, we hadn't dealt with this aspect in the proposal. My two cents would be that if the same subject has different internal names within the same game, it can make sense to list them all - you're already doing that for the Spiny Cheep Cheep and I agree with the approach - while if duplicates reinforce a concept - e.g. a peculiar name like <tt>Nejibomb</tt> not being a one-off but a deliberate choice - it could make sense to list them all, otherwise just listing one instance is enough to avoid bloat.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 10:51, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
:::What I mean is that ''Sunshine'' uses multiple filepaths down to the mission number instead of a shared folder that it pulls from like most later games, so that's why I think that game would be going particularly overboard if we were to list every filepath instance. I'm sure a "main" filepath is fine. Anyway, I now have examples on how full destinations would look on the Spiny Cheep Cheep, Urchin, and Petapeta articles. Would you say this more in line with how it should be presented going forward? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:15, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
::::So far, so good! I have to say that I really like this "name and where it came from" approach. With that being said, there's always room for improvements or completely different approaches that prove to be more effective, so if you come up with better ideas don't hesitate to write about these, either directly here or in the talk page of the template. I had forgotten how redundant is ''Super Mario Sunshine'', in cases like these of course just one name is fine.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 15:36, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
 
== Internal names ==
 
Hi, I would like to ask, are there any internal names for the red platforms in MKT? I'm planning to create a page for these platforms. {{User:WildWario/sig}} 22:35, August 5, 2022 (EDT)
:Which red platforms? The ones used to "build" the R, T and R/T variants or some different objects?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 06:20, August 6, 2022 (EDT)
::Yes, those platforms. {{User:WildWario/sig}} 08:56, August 6, 2022 (EDT)
:::Sorry for being this late, I finally found a response: they're known as <tt>roadkanaami</tt>, which means chain-link/wire mesh road.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:56, September 27, 2022 (EDT)
::::Thanks for that information! {{User:WildWario/sig}} 04:57, September 28, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Hi again. I'd like to ask, what would be the best name for the page? Should I use Kanaami road or something else? {{User:WildWario/sig}} 09:29, October 31, 2022 (EDT)
::::::For sure the internal name as is would be fine, your proposed name would flow better and surely is the intended name, but I'm not sure if it's a bit of a stretch using it.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:39, October 31, 2022 (EDT)
 
==''Golf''==
Hey, I'm not sure if you have access to your guides yet, but I was wondering if you can look this up. According to the [https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B4%E3%83%AB%E3%83%95_(%E4%BB%BB%E5%A4%A9%E5%A0%82) Japanese Wikipedia] article for ''Golf'', the player character is said to be Mario in something called Shogakukan's ''Super Mario Zen (All) Hyakka'', but doesn't include a page number. If this is the same thing as the ''Super Mario Zen Hyakka'', could you confirm if this is true? As far as I know, the only other outright confirmation has been in ''Mario Mania''; ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' noticeably does not mention the game, so I have wondered if the western Game Boy artwork was just an artist having fun. The article also vaguely claims that it was deconfirmed to be Mario at another point (besides Captain Rainbow) in a Family Computer Magazine / Famimaga feature, but that may be too broad. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:20, September 12, 2022 (EDT)
:I don't have immediate access to the scanner, but hopefully {{file link|SMCE page 85.jpg|this picture of page 85}} will be enough. Effectively,  the ''Super Mario Bros. Daizukan'' only shows material from ''Mario Open Golf'', while the 25th anniversary ''Super Mario Pia'' mentions ''Family Computer Golf: Japan Course'', meaning that the Zen Hyakka is pretty alone, as far as I can tell.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 00:15, September 18, 2022 (EDT)
::My bad, {{file link|PEGMCE page 239.jpg|page 239 of the Daijiten}} mentions the Game Boy ''Golf'' as well, since the cover acknowledgement was in the Western release this should still be relevant.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 00:29, September 18, 2022 (EDT)
:::And, for the sake of completeness, {{file link|ZSMOH page 128.jpg|page 128 of Keibunsha's ''Zen Super Mario ŌHyakka''}} mentions ''Golf'' as well, the book seems to be licensed however, I couldn't find the supervised by/in collaboration with Nintendo notice in the colophon (though, much like the Daijiten, it's interesting how it's referring to the Game Boy version, that again explicitly showed Mario only in the Western cover).--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 01:09, September 18, 2022 (EDT)
 
== Yoss ==
 
Do you have anything to add [[User talk:Swallow#Yoshi Koopa|here]]? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 08:50, October 22, 2022 (EDT)
:Honestly, it's yet again a problem of Japan vs. West. Nintendo is very lax about who can be part of the Turtle Tribe since the requirement is literally just being turtles. But in the West, where we have this biological concept of Koopas, it can't work as well. Much like with Yoshi the character - you'll surely have noticed how in the last canceled proposal the opposition cited official sources in that were all Western - there's no right or wrong answer: the official Japanese and Western point of views are just different. If we follow the Western one, which we are supposed to since we're an English wiki, then it's hard to justify putting Yoshi as a Koopa - at best we can accept it's an unrelated turtle. If we were following the Japanese point of view, the page about the Koopas would rather be a "turtles" page and basically list all the characters and species of the Mario universe that were officially acknowledged as being turtles.
 
:And considering how [https://kotaku.com/nintendo-of-europe-will-lay-off-320-people-this-month-1627924242/amp Nintendo of Europe laid off its localization team in 2014], I just can't see NOE pulling another "Kamek" to better align with Nintendo in Japan, that happened before the employees were laid off. And indeed, the ''Paper Mario: The Origami King'' trailer was so 1:1 with the North American one that [https://youtu.be/qmYXGoq8IIk even in Italy the Magikoopa term sadly returned], wiping out NOE's bold attempt at finally aligning with Japan.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:39, October 22, 2022 (EDT)
::On that note, I do want to show you [[User:Doc_von_Schmeltwick/Projects#Merge 'n' split viability testing|what I've been working on]]. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:36, October 22, 2022 (EDT)
 
== Size chart for Mario Kart Tour karts ==
 
I'm planning on creating a chart of MKT karts sortable by various dimensions (width and length, and possibly area too). To do so, I'd basically lift the data documented in this [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/18kggYJbsJbdTYFF85d75b6z515ydssc_Pn0QY8U7Rpo/htmlview# Google Docs spreadsheet] by the people who run the Studfit YouTube channel; nevertheless I can't find any statement on their part that this data is actually derived from the game's files or other official sources. In my searches, I noticed on the MKT subreddit that you've corroborated or reacted positively to a few (unrelated) posts from the same people, and since you yourself have knowledge on the game's internal data and meta, I'd like to ask if you can confirm this for me. Thanks. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 15:20, November 10, 2022 (EST)
:I can confirm that Studfit is professional in his rundowns and relies on credible sources, however it's impossible to comment on the precision of the size charts because ultimately the only way to derive said data is by making measurements on the 3D model, as the collision model usually is just a lower resolution version of the 3D model. This means that the collision model is usually not a simple rectangle-based shape and as such it's pretty hard making definitive statements about the reliability of these data. I'd say that the source is in good faith and likely uses mostly reliable methods like average or maximum width and length (I expect the latters), but if we want to rely on objective data about which we are certain we should probably steer away from size data, as there are no simple values we can datamine from the game about it.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:25, November 12, 2022 (EST)
 
==Monty Mania==
A short while back, around the time I added the Walu-Daisy bit to the wiki, I spotted something interesting when looking through the [https://web.archive.org/web/20001209080900/http://www.camelot.co.jp/gimon/gimon13.html ''Mario Tennis'' Camelot Q&A page] for more info:<blockquote>今までに発売されたマリオシリーズのソフトをひっくり返し、今回のラインナップに加われそうなキャラを探します。
 
{{color|darkred|「'''<big>クリボー</big>'''どうですか?」<br>「'''<big><big>クリボン</big></big>'''じゃねえだろうな。」<br>「いや、'''<big>クリボー</big>'''です。」}}
 
何のことかさっぱりわからないと思いますが、以前'''クリボンとクリボーを勘違いする事件'''が起きた事があるからです。同様に、'''チョロプー、インディ事件'''というのもあります。それは、さておき、</blockquote>So, two takeaways here. One, the Kuribo/Kuribon (Goomba/Galoomba) confusion also existed to some extent in Japan. Two, there was ''also'' Choropoo/Indy (Monty/Mega Mole) confusion at some point. Now, it unfortunately doesn't elaborate there since it's only a quick sidenote, but reading that, a few things started clicking with the proverbial gears in my head. Was the confusion because they had totally different Japanese names? Is this why ''Super Mario-kun'' invented Super Choropoo one time, and later Mega Mole was phased out in favor of Morty Mole and then Mega Monty Mole? Is this why the ''Super Mario 64'' source assets used <tt>indy</tt> to refer to what in the final is supposed to be Choropoo? Is this why the Presenters in ''Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga'' went from looking like Mega Mole to Monty Mole in the remake? Or, potentially, this might even factor in to Rocky Wrench's redesign somehow? I've never heard of anything regarding a Choropoo/Indy mix-up, so I was wondering if you have further thoughts or details to shed light on this. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:24, January 6, 2023 (EST)
 
== "{{wp|Speed (Billy Idol song)|Speed... gimme what I need...}}" ==
 
I would like to pose another question about Mario Kart Tour's inward stuff.<br>So I noticed some time ago in the game that, while flying after shooting from a cannon, you acquire some momentum that causes any items you throw forward to move at a higher speed than usual, which I made sure to log in the [[Cannon (Mario Kart series)#Mario Kart Tour|Cannon (Mario Kart series)]] article. This is particularly clear in Vancouver Velocity 2, where the cannon has the additional property of hurling Bubble users far ahead (seen in the 2022 Holiday Tour). Lately, I got a hunch that this may not be exclusive to this scenario; that it's possible any sort of speed increase on your driver imparts a higher momentum to your thrown items. I tested this out by throwing green shells and bananas while boosting away from Dash Panels, and while I thought I sensed a difference, I wasn't able to fully discern it.<br>My question is, does the game's code contain some sort of formula that calculates the speed of the things you throw based on your character's own speed? In the case of the Bubble, is there similarly any formula that shows its speed is affected if you activate the Bubble while boosting? {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 20:57, March 4, 2023 (EST)
:Sorry that it took so much time, but I found some interesting parameters, in the <tt>mParabolic</tt> section:
<blockquote>
      "mInitSpeed": 0.90000004,
 
      "mInitSpeedFever": 0.90000004,
 
      "mInitSpeedFrontFasterEvent": 0.90000004,
 
      "mInitSpeedBack": 0.45,
 
      "mInitSpeedRatioToKartDriveSpeed": 1.0,
 
      "mInitSpeedRatioCannon": 1.3,
</blockquote>
:Considering the name, they're likely the parameters used when throwing the item, and pretty much all items have them, even though of course then there are different parameters for special items like the Spiny Shell:
<blockquote>
  "mGeneral": {
 
    "mTermSpeedAdd": 1.0,
 
    "mTermSpeedKartRatio": 1.5,
 
    "mSpeedLerpRatio": 0.01,
 
    "mThrowUpOffset": 2.0,
 
    "mScaleMax": 3.0,
 
    "mScaleLerpRatio": 0.05,
 
    "mInitSpeed": 1.5,
 
    "mGravity": 0.0,
 
    "mColScaleInRun": 8.0,
 
    "mReflectPrevVelRatio": 0.5
 
  }
</blockquote>
:or the Bullet Bill:
<blockquote>
  "mSpeedMax": 2.0,
 
  "mSpeedMaxCurve": 1.2,
 
  "mSpeedRate": 2.0,
 
  "mSpeedRateIncrease": 0.02,
 
  "mSpeedRateDecrease": 0.1,
</blockquote>
:the Bubble
<blockquote>
  "mSpeedMax": 1.05,
 
  "mSpeedMaxCurve": 1.05,
 
  "mSpeedRate": 1.05,
 
  "mSpeedRateIncrease": 0.005,
 
  "mSpeedRateDecrease": 0.1,
</blockquote>
:and the Bubble+
<blockquote>
      "mSpeedMax": 1.2,
 
      "mSpeedMaxCurve": 1.05,
 
      "mSpeedRate": 1.2,
 
      "mSpeedRateIncrease": 1.0,
 
      "mSpeedRateDecrease": 0.1
</blockquote>
:In any case, I guess <tt>"mInitSpeedRatioToKartDriveSpeed": 1.0</tt> and <tt>"mInitSpeedRatioCannon": 1.3</tt> are what you're looking for: the initial speed is indeed identical to that of the kart from which it was thrown, and in cannons it is even higher (probably to allow it to reach the other opponents). To have an idea of the coded speed in absolute term, you can see these parameters:
<blockquote>
  "cSpeedMin": 0.5,
 
  "cSpeed150CC": 0.66,
 
  "cSpeed200CC": 0.89,
 
  "cSpeed300CC": 1.05,
 
  "cSpeedMin_Battle": 0.4,
</blockquote>
:The Red Shell and Yoshi's Egg don't have the additional speed parameters, by the way, so the initial "parabolic" parameters are likely kept after the item is thrown.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 00:49, March 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
== Of pipes and punctuation ==
 
Apologies for my lack of a response to our previous exchange; your insight was helpful, and, one way or another, I will incorporate or cite it in the main space.
 
I really hope you don't mind, but I have two other relatively minor questions to ask regarding Mario Kart Tour. Their answers, I surmise, can only be ascertained with access to the game's code and files.
#The Yoshi's Island course has three pipes lying around the cloudy segment of the track. Their appearance on that course should be listed in one of the "[[Mario Kart Tour#Course elements|course elements]]" tables on the Mario Kart Tour page, but I'm not sure which table should contain it. On the one hand, they are green and relatively small in size, which suggests they might use the same asset as the pipes that give you points when you take them out in other courses; on the other hand, there is no item or state which can help you actually interact with the Yoshi's Island pipes in any given context, so I have no idea if they're programmed to be "interactable" or are just baked into the scenery. Would you be able to tell what properties are given to these pipes in the course's map data so we can decide if they're (displaced) gameplay elements or mere decorations?
#In the game's Japanese and Chinese scripts, punctuation appears to be separated from words with spaces, such as in the text displayed when you hit someone with an item (e.g. "アカこうら HIT !" when you land a hit with a red shell). Now, I know that punctuation marks imported from western languages have a trailing space by default in Japanese and Chinese typography (!), but the game's script also appears to give them a space ''before'' punctuation. I don't know if those spaces had been literally typed out into the text or are a result of some quirk in the font used by the game for these scripts, and it would be useful to know so that I can correctly type out the transcripts going forward, such as [[Gold Cupid's Arrow#Profiles and statistics|here]]. Could you please open a small part of the game's Japanese and Chinese scripts in a text editor and check if there are actual spaces before punctuation marks?
{{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 16:58, June 15, 2023 (EDT)
:Also, regarding the second question, does the game use the punctuation from western typography (e.g. "!") or their fullwidth counterparts ("!") for the Japanese/Chinese scripts? OCR software doesn't seem to pick up on the difference. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:25, June 15, 2023 (EDT)
::Sorry that I reply this late. I don't have dumps of recent tours so I can't reply to the first question, on the other hand I know that {{User|Trainiax}} has access to said dumps, so they should be able to answer said question.
::When it comes to the second question, I can confirm that the Japanese and Chinese script doesn't feature spaces, it uses the ''FULLWIDTH EXCLAMATION MARK'' (U+FF01) Unicode character, an example from the ''skillholder_0345_UR_description'' line of text:
 
<blockquote>
きょだいキノコの確率と


ポイントを もっともっとプラス!
Then as a immediate follow-up to the sixth question:<br>
</blockquote>
8.) Is the Red Star power-up in that case 「レッドスター」? [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 11:18, 11 May 2016 (EDT)
:8)It is. Here are the descriptions of both the red star and the red power star:<br />
:<br />
:レッドスター<br />
:一定時間フライングマリオにパワーアップできる。<br />
:<br />
:レッドパワースター<br />
:天の扉でしか入手できない赤いパワースター。<br />
:The absence of a green star power-up might be a reason why the name doesn't specify if we're talking about green stars or green power stars.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 15:05, 11 May 2016 (EDT)


<blockquote>
New set of questions:<br>
巨大蘑菇的
9.) What's the form obtained from Red Star called?<br>
10.) In SMG and SMG2, there are two types of Goombas, the standard one and the smaller, weaker kind. What's the name of that Goomba?<br>
11.) Does the book make any type of reference to Toad Town from Paper Mario? Look for SMG and SMG2, those are the games with towns near Peach's Castle.<br>
12.) What exactly are Goomba Towers called?<br>
--[[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 03:42, 28 May 2016 (EDT)
:9)The form is called 「フライングマリオ」 so nothing particular, but still appropriate.<br />
:10)The samller, weaker Goombas are known as 「マメクリボー」, so they are essentially Micro Goombas also in the Encyclopedia.<br />
:11)This one is tricky. The place is hardly referenced at all. For example, let's look at the section dedicated to the first ''Super Mario Galaxy'' in the Encyclopedia. In the story, we have the following:<br />
:ピーチ姫からの招待状をにぎりしめ、マリオがお城に到着するとそこは、きらびやかに輝く星くず祭の真っ最中でした。楽しげに踊るキノピオたちに迎えられ、<br />
:幸せなひとときを感じるマリオでしたが......<br />
:<br />
:And in the Memorial Book we don't have much more information:<br />
:会場に到着すると、突如現れたクッパによってピーチ姫はさらわれ、祭りは大混乱彼女を助けるためマリオは広大な冒険へ旅立つ。<br />
:<br />
:Of course, we also have the description of each galaxy along with the stars that can be collected there, but even those don't say much:<br />
:グランドフィーレギャラクシー<br />
:<br />
:ピーチ城周辺に広がる、星くず祭の会場。キノビオたちが迎えてくれる。<br />
:ようこそ!星くず祭へ<br />
:平和が戻ったピーチ城の庭に散らばる、パープルコイソを集める。<br />
:<br />
:The ''AND MORE'' section also has a small paragraph, but little is said about the place:<br />
:完全クリアで<br />
:グランド<br />
:フィナーレ!<br />
:ルイージでパワースターを120個集めると、「グランドフィナーレギャラクシー」が出現。星くず祭が開催される中、パープルコインを集める最後シナリオだ。これをマリオとルイージでクリアすると、パワースターが全242個となって完全クリアとなる。<br />
:<br />
:Finally, the story of Super Mario Galaxy 2, only present in the Encyclopedia, does not tell us more:<br />
:すっかり<span class=explain title="なつ">懐</span>いた 迷子の星の子 ベビィチコをつれ お城へ たどり着いたマリオですが そこで、待っていたものは…<br />
:<br />
:It is referenced as the venue where the Star Festival is held, more or less.<br />
:12)They are called 「タワークリボー」, so a simple and self-explanatory name also in the Encyclopedia.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:08, 28 May 2016 (EDT)


概率和分數更加更加強化!
Here's one based on a dispute "on hold".<br>
</blockquote>
13.) SMG, SMG2 and SM3DW have blue Lava Bubbles; how does the Encyclopedia describe those? Are they listed in one slot or are they separate from red Lava Bubbles? [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 11:50, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
:13)Actually, only the Super Mario Galaxy 2 enemies section separates them, in the other two games you mentioned the blue ones are still considered Lava Bubbles.<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO GALAXY<br />
:バブル<br />
:溶岩から飛び出し、跳ねながら追いかけてくる。時間がたつと消える。<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2<br />
:バブル<br />
:一定の<span class=explain title="かん">間</span><span class=explain title="かく">隔</span>で溶岩から飛び出す火の玉。<br />
:<br />
:バブル(青)<br />
:溶岩から飛び出し、跳ねながら追いかけてくる。しばらくすると消える。<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO 3D WORLD<br />
:バブル<br />
:一定の<span class=explain title="かん">間</span><span class=explain title="かく">隔</span>で溶岩から飛び出す。青色のタイプもいる。<br />
:<br />
:The Super Mario 3D world enemies section actually explicitly says that some lava bubbles are blue, while still grouping them together. The ''Super Mario Memorial Book'' group them together as well:<br />
:バブル<br />
:『スーパーマリオブラザーズ』に登場した火の玉のようなキャラクター。ファイアスネークは仲間。<br />
:Curiously enough, there is no mention of the blue ones, while a connection to the Fire Snakes is made instead.


::so yes, the second you said: the game is using the fullwidth variants for the Chinese and Japanese scripts, I don't think OCR software can pick this counterpart up due to it being virtually indistinguishable from a mark with a space before and after it.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 01:05, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
So, more of the case where a color is mentioned in parantheses to distinguish different types of a enemy. I think I get the logic behind this now: the book establishes that they are same enemy, but separates them under some circumstances, such as if there are two or more varieties that differ in appearance, functions behaviour, form etc. with color serving as the identifier from the base enemy if needed. It seems to vary from enemy to enemy, since the Lava Bubbles are separated by behaviour and appearance only in SMG2, while Dino Piranha and Gobblegut both have alternative fire forms ("Black" in the book).<br>
Thank you so much! {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 18:47, July 16, 2023 (EDT)
Anyway, next question:<br>
14.) Is the SMB3 Missile Bill's Japanese name 「Uターンキラー」 as this wiki currently states? [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 03:55, 7 June 2016 (EDT)
:14)Looks like you have found another odd case here, as the Missile Bills are referenced among the Bullet Bills instead of having their own slot:<br />
:キラー<br />
:キラー砲台から発射され、まっすぐに飛んでくる。Uターンするタイプもいる。<br />
:This means, of course, that they don't really have a name there, but the U-turn is indeed mentioned.


==''Mario & Luigi RPG''==
Actually, now that I've taken a closer look, it was in fact me who added that name. Must have been before I started looking for sources like official guides to confirm this stuff, so I may have to remove that name. That aside, here's a new one:<br>
I remember a while back that you mentioned having the official Japanese guidebook for ''Superstar Saga''. [[User talk:Sno|Sno]] has looked into some filenames from the 3DS games, including the remake, and while some of the names are functional/generic, I was wondering if you can use the book as additional evidence for things like the sailor and jellyfish. Also, I forgot if this came up before, but do you know if the 3DS version had an official guidebook? It might be worth it to look into how things might have changed. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:16, August 6, 2023 (EDT)
15. Are the two Dragoneel colors separate as well in the Encyclopedia? [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 13:52, 25 June 2016 (EDT)
:I'll be on vacation so until around the 28th I won't be able to take a look, but if you can prepare a list I might search for the names when I'm back, as I have the original Nintendo official Guidebook. When it comes to the 3DS version, a quick search reveals that no official guide was ever published for that version, the last guide was for ''Paper Jam''.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 10:37, August 16, 2023 (EDT)
:15)THe two Dragoneel colors aren't separate:<br />
::Okay. Besides Presenter, you can refer to [[User talk:Time Turner/unfinished#Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga|this list]]. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:44, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
:タツノン<br />
::Sorry to be a bother, but I managed to trim that list dramatically since then. Everything currently there has talk page discussions, but I think the particular trouble spot is jellyfish/kurako (Tuki/Boddle's assistant might also use support). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:50, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
:長い<span class=explain title="どうたい">胴体</span>を持ち、マリオに向かって泳いでくる。<br />
:::Sorry, as of late I have troubles finding a moment to look into these, I’ll see if I can at least look at the two troublesome ones.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:10, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
:This time the two colors aren't even mentioned in the description, but I couldn't find another box for the other color.
::::Only now I realize I never answered. Sadly, the guide doesn’t mention the kurako nor Tuki, so it can’t help.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:09, September 29, 2024 (EDT)


==Koopa Troop==
Couple o'more questions:<br>
Hey, so, there's a discussion over [[Talk:Koopa Troop#Rename|here]] on whether or not to rename Koopa Troop, and I think it took an interesting direction: my theory now is that "Bowser's Minions" is a direct carryover from when NOE called the Koopalings by that term, as "Bowser's minions" might have been the name for the Koopa Troop as early as ''Paper Jam''. I'm not the most familiar with the 3DS ''Mario & Luigi'' entries. When you get a chance, can you check what term the Japanese version uses there? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:30, November 24, 2023 (EST)
16.) What are the ! Switches called in each game, if the book even has them listed?<br>
:Sorry that it took me that much - I was looking at quotes that weren't mandatory in every playthrough until I finally found the right one, since I currently mainly have a look in the weekends, this ended up being a way too long search for an answer... In any case you were right, Paper Jam reintroduced the "Koopalings" term and as such, they could finally use "Bowser's minions" as a more proper translation of "Kuppa gundan" where "Kuppa" was "Bowser".--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:07, December 9, 2023 (EST)
17.) What about the ! Blocks, for which this wiki has listed "Surprise Block" as a Japanese name?<br>
--[[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 08:17, 8 July 2016 (EDT)
:16)The ! Switches are listed in the Encyclopedia, and they have pretty consistent names:<br />
:SUPER MARIO WORLD<br />
:ビックリスイッチ<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO 64<br />
:ビックリスイッチ<br />
:<br />
:NEW SUPER MARIO BROS.<br />
:ビックリスイッチ<br />
:<br />
:NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII<br />
:ビックリスイッチ<br />
:巨大ビックリスイッチ<br />
:<br />
:NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2<br />
:ビックリスイッチ<br />
:巨大ビックリスイッチ<br />
:<br />
:NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. U<br />
:ビックリスイッチ<br />
:<br />
:So, pretty much always surprise switches, in some cases huge.<br />
:17)The ! blocks have changed role in the various games and, accordingly, their name changed as well:<br />
:SUPER MARIO BROS. 3<br />
:不思議リフト<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO WORLD<br />
:ビックリブロック<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO 64<br />
:透明ブロック<br />
:緑のブロック<br />
:青いブロック<br />
:赤いブロック<br />
:黄色いブロック<br />
:<br />
:NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII<br />
:おてほんブロック<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO 3D LAND<br />
:ビックリブロック<br />
:ワープボックス<br />
:<br />
:NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. U<br />
:おてほんブロック<br />
:<br />
:SUPER MARIO 3D WORLD<br />
:スイッチブロック<br />
:ワープボックス<br />
:<br />
:So, Surprise Block is effectively among the names; interestingly, this name was reused in Super Mario 3D Land as well, while in Super Mario 3D World Switch Block was used instead.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 23:49, 10 July 2016 (EDT)


== In regards to ''Super Mario World''{{'}}s Koopa enemies ==
18.) I just remembered where the ! Blocks were in 3D World and that they act like [[ON/OFF Switch]] from SMW. What are those named in the book? [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 05:57, 11 July 2016 (EDT)
:18)Those blocks are known as 「スイッチブロック」, so Switch Blocks.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 08:26, 11 July 2016 (EDT)


Hello, I was wondering, in your extensive collection of Japanese guidebooks, is there anything that directly links Boom Boom (Bunbun) to Chargin' Chuck (Bull), or Sledge Bro (Himan/Mega Bros) to Sumo Bro (KK)? I brought up a [[Talk:Chargin' Chuck#Consider a variation of Boom Boom?|talk page]] point in regards to the many similarities of the former two, and it's proven controversial to say the least. (On a mostly unrelated note, what are your thoughts on the idea of splitting the various "Boss Teresa" instances from Big Boo, like on my draft page [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Boss Teresa|here]]?) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:28, January 16, 2024 (EST)
19.) This is the question I've been forgetting to ask, but does Big Boo from SMW have two slots for both the common enemy and the boss of Donut Secret House? [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 11:00, 22 July 2016 (EDT)
:I'm sorry but Im on vacation now, I will be able to reply at the end of next week. [[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:13, 23 July 2016 (EDT)
::19)They are under the same slot, with a mention that Big Boo can be a boss:<br />
::アトミックテレサ<br />
::大きなテレサ。ボスとして現れたときは、ブルブルブロックで攻撃可能。


Speaking of Sledge Bro, I also want to add if you know of any connection that Hammer Bro may have with Koopa Troopa or Bowser. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:50, January 25, 2024 (EST)
Hello. First of all, thank you so much for putting up information about the 30th anniversary encyclopedia online - it is painfully difficult to find. Secondly, I have some questions about the encyclopedia's contents too, that would help clear up some things on the wiki.
:I can confirm that no relationship is acknowledged in both the Daizukan and Daijiten, beside them belonging to the Kame-zoku. In particular, Sledge Bro is confirmed in both books to be an overweight Hammer Bro (Daijiten: ブロスー家1のおデブさん/知らず知らずのうちに食べ過ぎ て、こんなに太ってしまったヒマ ンプロス。しかし、動きがのろい のかと思ったら大間違い。空高く ジャンプをし、身動きがとれない ほどの地震を巻き起こすのだ。, Daizukan: ハンマーブロスが、ブクブクと太った 超重量級の戦士。ハンマーが武器だが、 ジャンプして着地したときにおこす地震 攻撃のほうがこわい! 地上にいるもの は、大地の振動で動けなくなってしまう),while all the others are kept distinct and unrelated to other members of the Turtle Tribe biology-wise. K.K. is specifically stated to be a sumo wrestler (Daijiten: 大物横綱の登場だ/ヒマンブロス (P171)に次ぐ超重量級キャラだ。相撲の基本とい われるスリ足で、ブロックのドを 左右に移動するカメ族の横綱だ。 マント以外での攻撃が効かないの で気をつけたい。, Daizukan: 動きはのんびりしているが、カメ相撲 の横綱。 「ドスコーイッ!」 としこをふ むと、かみなりがおちて地面がほのおの 海になる。すり足をしているときに、足 もとがすきだらけになるのが弱点だ。), Chargin’Chuck a football player with several attacks (Daijiten: 多彩な攻撃パターンのブル/アメフトスタイルのたくましいカメ。攻撃 パターンが豊富で、突進してきたり、ボール を投げてきたりとその数なんと8種類。3回 踏みつければ倒せるが、マントなら1発だ。, Daizukan: シリーズ中でもっとも多くの攻撃方法をもっている。ラグビーボールや野球のボール、岩などをぶつけてくるほか、 ダッシュやジャンプをしての体あたり、 分身の術をつかってマリオをくるしめる。)and Boom Boom a higher-up in its debut game (Daijiten: 長い腕をブンブン振り回す/軽快なリズムにのって登場する、 こうらにトゲのついた巨大カメ。 各ワールドの砦のボスで、手をブ ンブン振り回しながら体当たりしてくる。1回踏まれると一瞬丸まってトゲを出し、動きが早くなる。, Daizukan: 『マリオ3』のクッパ軍団の最高幹部。うでをブンブンふりまわして体あたり攻撃をしてくる。まるくなるとトゲゾー のような大きなとげがあり、とても危険。 なかまに、空をとぶブンブンもいる。). It’s worth noting how Takashi Tezuka was involved in the character design of ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' and ''Super Mario World'', I wouldn’t be surprised if he was heavily involved in the design of these four enemies and the similarities between them were more due to his consistent art style.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 13:17, January 28, 2024 (EST)


== Bulbing of the Boo ==
1) What does it say about Super Mario Bros.' story, and more particularly how Toads got turned into bricks and plants? This bit of story seems to have been dropped with Super Mario Bros. 3 yet keeps being referenced.


Hello, I've already [[User talk: LinkTheLefty#Running of the Bulb Big Boo|approached LTL]] on the subject, but I was wondering if you had the Japanese guide for the original ''Mario Party'' available? I'm trying to figure out what the giant creepy Boo in [[Running of the Bulb]] is called to determine its relation to the N64/GCN-era "Boss Boo," and [https://youtu.be/9juh3ubHQPk the in-game instructions] don't mention it. I found ガスボステレサ ("Gas Boss Teresa") on [https://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E3%83%86%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B5%28%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AA%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%29 pixiv encyclopedia] and Mysterii tells me Wikipedia uses it as well, but of course neither is an official source. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:53, January 25, 2024 (EST)
2) What does it say about The Lost Levels' story? The FDS version's manual states it is a "parallel world" to SMB1, with the same story otherwise, does the encyclopedia keep this?
:Sorry, I don’t have that guide, I’ll try to have a look the next weekend on the Daizukan and the Daijiten about the Koopas, while you surely know by now how the 30th anniversary ''Super Mario Pia'' did put the two Boss Teresa together, although it was specifically the ''Super Mario 64'' and the ''Super Mario Sunshine'' ones. The 30th anniversary books only covered the “Super Mario Bros. series” in terms of characters (where that term at the time meant the “Super Mario series”, not the 2D platform series like it does now), while the two character books I mentioned were published before ''Mario Party'' and the new one just covers the recurring enemies. We’re a bit out of luck if you can’t find the ''Mario Party'' Shogakukan guide.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:55, January 25, 2024 (EST)


== Of punctuation, part 2 ==
3) What does it say about Galaxy 2's story? The English localization plays it off as a retelling of Galaxy 1's, while the Japanese version would seem to make references here and there that would make it a direct sequel to Galaxy 1, and some other localizations (such as French) are neutral.


Hi, Mister Wu. This question is related to the one I asked above regarding some punctuation quirks in Mario Kart Tour's script. I'd be thankful if you could uncover one more thing for me from the game's files.<br>So you've established before that the Chinese in-game scripts utilize the fullwidth forms of characters such as "!" and "?". Judging by their appearance in said scripts, I would assume that the characters <code>“</code> and <code>”</code> (the double quotation marks, hopefully I set them off acceptably) were also typed in this fullwidth format (see {{file link|MKT Tour114 Spotlight Shop Stealth Glider ZH-CN.jpg|this screencap}} as an example). These are specifically  the ''curly'' quotation marks, distinct from the standard <code>"</code> character. My issue is that I could not find on the internet the (seemingly) fullwidth variants of the curly quotes that are used in-game; for instance, the Wikipedia page for {{wp|Halfwidth_and_Fullwidth_Forms_(Unicode_block)|fullwidth Unicode block}}, like other sites, only lists the fullwidth form of the standard quotation mark, not the curly ones.<br>My request is as such: could you please extract a piece of (simplified Chinese) flavor text that contains these curly quotes and paste it here to see these quotes in unicode? I'd go for a glider's or kart's profile since these seem to write their special skills within quotes, like in the screenshot I showed above. This would be helpful to decide how to style a bunch of [[Stealth Glider#Profiles and statistics|profiles]] on the wiki (scroll down to the simplified Chinese description).<br>Have a pleasant evening!{{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 19:02, February 4, 2024 (EST)
4) I know Yoshi's Island is not covered, but is there anything that is said about "Yoster Island" and "Yoshi Island" being separate places? The international localization would translate them both as Yoshi's Island while they appear to be distinct in Japan. Similarly, is anything said about Kamek the character and Kamek the species being distinct?
:I’m sorry thatI reply this late, but it doesn’t look like the dump I have included the Chinese text of the various “special offers” (like the packs). Is there a more generic text that includes said special quotation marks?—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:08, March 8, 2024 (EST)
::Mate, I completely forgot I started this conversation. The onus was on me to respond more promptly. Sorry.<br>There's {{file link|MKT Standard Challenges 1-2 challenge 3 ZH-CN.jpg|this challenge description}} in the Standard Challenges 1-2 set that contains these curly quotes. That should've always been in the game. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 05:12, April 21, 2024 (EDT)
:::While for some reason I have yet to find that specific description, I did find a text that features the curly quotes:


·关于支付、解除、继承,请查看“常见问题”的
5) Is anything said about Dry Bowser's character? It is still unclear whether he is his own distinct character or still just another form of Bowser.


 “关于支付/解除/继承”。
[[User:Koopalmier|Koopalmier]] ([[User talk:Koopalmier|talk]]) 04:59, 18 August 2016 (EDT)
:I'm not Mister Wu himself, but I can confirm this about Kamek: Judging by [http://www.4gamer.net/games/260/G026097/20150910040/ the scan of the characters page] from Super Mario 30th anniversary memorial book which is also used to confirm stuff here, Kamek's appearances are listed as SMW, SMG, NSMBW, SMG2, 3DL, NSMBU and 3DW. There's no separate box for "the" Kamek, which means no individual distinction at all. SMW listed there also matches with the Kamek trophy from SSB Wii U. [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 09:41, 7 September 2016 (EDT)
::Sorry for being late, before answering questions 1-3 I have to say that the stories in the Encyclopedia are pretty much the same of the manuals (with a [http://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Koopalings#Some_parts_relative_to_the_Koopalings_in_the_SMB3_sections_of_the_30th_anniversary_books special exception for Super Mario Bros. 3], likely introduced as an attempt at stating that the Koopalings were never directly stated to be Bowser's children, which is false, by the way). So, there they are:<br />
::1)SUPER MARIO BROS.<br />
::ものがたり<br />
::※取扱説明書のものをそのまま龍しています。<br />
::<br />
::キノコ達の住む平和な王国に、ある日、強力な魔法を操る大ガメクッパの一族が侵略して来ました。おとなしいキノコ一族は、皆その魔力によって岩やレンガ、つくし等に姿を変えられてしまい、キノコ王国は亡びてしまったのです。<br />
::<br />
::このキノコ達の魔法を解き、よみがえらす事ができるのはキノコ王国のお姫様ピーチ姫だけ。彼女は今、大魔王クッパの手中にあります。<br />
::<br />
::マリオは、カメ一族を倒してピーチ姫を救出し、再び平和なキノコ王国を築くために立ち上がりました。<br />
::<br />
::テレビの中のマリオはあなたです。このアドベンチャークエスト(遠征)を完結できるのは、あなただけなのです。<br />
::<br />
::It pretty much states what you say, that the inhabitants of the Mushroom Kingdom were turned into bricks, rocks, horsetails, etc..<br />
::<br />
::2)SUPER MARIO BROS.: THE LOST LEVELS<br />
::ものがたり<br />
::※取扱説明書のものをそのまま掲載しています。<br />
::<br />
::キノコ達の住む平和な王国に、ある日、強力な魔法を操る大ガメクッパの一族が侵略して来ました。<br />
::おとなしいキノコ一族は、皆その魔力によって岩やレンガ、つくし等に姿を変えられてしまい、キノコ王国は亡びてしまったのです。<br />
::<br />
::このキノコ達の魔法を解き、よみがえらす事ができるのはキノコ王国のお姫様ピーチ姫だけ。彼女は今、大魔王クッパの手中にあります。<br />
::<br />
::マリオは、カメ一族を倒してピーチ姫を救出し、再び平和なキノコ王国を築くために立ち上がりました。<br />
::<br />
::テレビの中のマリオはあなたです。このアドベンチャークエスト(遠征)を完結できるのは、あなただけなのです。<br />
::<br />
::No, it's not a joke or a transcription mistake, both the SMB and SMB: TLL stories are the same story! I don't know if it was a mistake of the writer of the Encyclopedia, but knowing how SMB: TLL was similar to SMB, I would be hardly surprised if the designers just recycled the same story even in the manuals.<br />
::<br />
::3)SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2<br />
::ものがたり<br />
::※取扱説明書のものをそのまま掲載しています。<br />
::<br />
::これは、もう一つの星くずの物語…<br />
::<br />
::光かがやく星くずがキノコ王国の大地に降りそそぐ百年に一度の季節が巡ってきました。<br />
::<br />
::マリオへ<br />
:::流れ星を見ながら<br />
:::ケーキでもいかがですか?<br />
:::お城で待っています。<br />
::::ピーチより<br />
::<br />
::ピーチ姫からの招待に、胸を<span class=explain title="おど">躍</span>らせマリオが 星降る草原を走っていると草むらから、不思議な光がみえました。<br />
::<br />
::おそるおそる のぞき込むと…そこにいたのは、迷子の小さな星の子でした。<br />
::<br />
::すっかり<span class=explain title="なっ">懐</span>いた 迷子の星の子 ベビイチコをつれお城へ たどり着いたマリオですが<br />
::<br />
::そこで、待っていたものは…<br />
::<br />
::I don't know if there are really references to SMG, at most the first sentence, that could be read like "this is another stardust story".<br />
::<br />
::4)Well, there's hardly anything that can be said. In the Super Mario World Levels section, this is how Yoshi's Island is described:<br />
::<br />
::ヨースター島<br />
::ヨッシーの家がある小島。左上にはかっば山がある。<br />
::<br />
::That 「ヨースター」 is clearly different from Yoshi's name, 「ヨッシー」. What about the name used in the Yoshi spin-off games? There is a section in the Encyclopedia...<br />
::<br />
::ヨッシー<br />
::<br />
::『スーパーマリオワールド』で登場したヨッシーは、そのわずか1年後、1991年末に発売された『ヨッシーのたまご』で早くも主役となる。これ以降、『ヨッシーのクッキー』や『ヨッシーのパネポン』など、パズルゲームの主役を務めていく。そのほか、アクションゲームのシリーズでも活躍。マリオたちが赤ちゃんのころのお話である『スーパーマリオヨッシーアイランド』では、タマゴを投げて攻撃するアクションを<span class=explain title="ひ">披</span><span class=explain title="ろう">露</span>。のちに、これはヨッシーの代表的なアクションとなった。<br />
::<br />
::Effectively, the name used, 「ヨッシーアイランド」, even when read sounds like Yoshi's Island. The Super Mario Memorial Book even has a box dedicated to the Yoshi's Island series (!):<br />
::<br />
::ベビィマリオが登場するスピンオフシリーズ<br />
::『ヨッシーアイランド』シリーズ』<br />
::<br />
::ヨッシーが赤ちゃん姿のベビィマリオを守りながら冒険を繰り広げる横スクロールアクション。敵の攻撃を受けるとベビィマリオが離れてしまい、急いで助けなければならないというドキドキのシステムが面白い。 <br />
::The name used, even as name for hte series, is again 「ヨッシーアイランド」. Is it the same place as 「ヨースター島」? Pretty much nothing is said, as you can see. And as you have seen, Kamek is definitely not mentioned either, so I'll just add to what SmokedChili said the actual description in the box:<br />
::<br />
::カメック<br />
::カメ の 姿 を し た 魔法使い で 分厚い メガネ が 特徴初登場作 は 『 スーパー マ リオ ワールド』 。<br />
::<br />
::It's just the description of the Magikoopas.<br />
::<br />
::5)Finally, somthing that was actually stated in the Encyclopedia! In the "And more" section of NSMB, we have this:<br />
::<br />
::ほねクリバ初見参!<br />
::<br />
::炎の池に落ちたクッパは、骨になった姿のほねクツパとなって復活。本作以降でも、クッパとは異なる強敵として、マリオの前にたびたび立ちはだかることになる。『マリオカートWii』などでは、プレイヤーキャラクターとして活躍する。<br />
::<br />
::So, it's pretty much now confirmed that Dry Bowser is not Bowser in the later games! By the way, here's his bio from the ''Super Mario Memorial Book'':<br />
::<br />
::ほねクッパ<br />
::ガイコツ姿のクッパ。『マリオカートWii』や『マリオテニスオープン』などにも登場する。<br />
::<br />
::登場作品<br />
::NSM, 3DL<br />
::<br />
::NSMB2 is forgotten for some reason...<br />
::<br />
::By the way, I'm wondering, should I make a separate subpage for these kinds of question?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 14:15, 7 September 2016 (EDT)
:::Hold on, I just noticed that all the story sections you posted have a following text:<br>
:::※取扱説明書のものをそのまま龍しています。<br>
:::20.) If I understand it right, it says that the stories were taken straight from the manual. But out of sheer interest, did SMB3 also have that sentence? [[User:SmokedChili|SmokedChili]] ([[User talk:SmokedChili|Talk]]) ([[User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page|Thoughts]]) 15:00, 7 September 2016 (EDT)


The raw hex data used for the curly quotes is 1C20 and 1D20, since ARM is little endian, that means that they're using Unicode 201C (Left Double Quotation Mark) and 201D (Right Double Quotation Mark).
==My proposal==
I have [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Proposals&diff=1974052&oldid=1974030 reset the votes] after the draft template has undergone a change that has both options now being choices. Perhaps you should consider voting again? Sorry for the inconvenience. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 11:00, 19 April 2016 (EDT)
:Done! Don't worry, it is still a proposal I agree with!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 11:34, 19 April 2016 (EDT)


By the looks of it, as you can see from the first string, the fullwidth spacing - that is present in the final game - is added by the game itself, rather than being in the original text. That's likely because as far as I know the fullwidth curly quotes aren't part of Unicode yet.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:34, April 21, 2024 (EDT)
==Rio Olyimpics==
some new footage appeared don't know if you saw them yet<br>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIX9v1FSUgI
<br>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7_WQS2toMw [[User:Marc|Doctor Marc]] ([[User talk: Marc|talk]])
:Thanks! I definitely didn't see it!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:19, 7 May 2016 (EDT)


Thank you so much ^^ {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 04:48, April 22, 2024 (EDT)
No Problem :) [[User:Marc|Doctor Marc]] ([[User talk: Marc|talk]])


== Luigi's Mansion 2 guide ==
==Adding Stat Table==
Great job adding the event stat table for the Wii U version of ''[[Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games (Wii U)|Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games]]''. This will come in handy. [[User:AfternoonLight|AfternoonLight]] ([[User talk:AfternoonLight|talk]]) 22:38, 20 July 2016 (EDT)


Hello, I was wondering if you could help me know whether [https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%AB%E3%82%A4%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B32-%E3%82%AB%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9A%E3%82%AD%E3%82%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89%E3%83%96%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%9F%E9%80%9A%E3%81%AE%E6%94%BB%E7%95%A5%E6%9C%AC-%E9%80%B1%E5%88%8A%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%9F%E9%80%9A%E7%B7%A8%E9%9B%86%E9%83%A8/dp/4047289361 this guide] (and these preview scans thereof, I don't actually have the guide) is usable as a source for foreign names. I asked [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] earlier this year, who said you might know more about this. I found the guide mentioned [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/aggj/guidebook/index.html here], in case that helps. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 19:27, March 28, 2024 (EDT)
== Re: Paper Mario Color Splash Info ==
:It’s a tough call. Kadokawa now is the publisher of the official guides, but 11 years ago if I remember correctly the publisher of the Official Nintendo Guidebooks was Shogakukan. You should look for the 「協力/任天堂」 line in the colophon that states that a guide was written in collaboration with Nintendo, the recent character picture book by GzBrain and Kadokawa has that line, as an example.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 20:02, March 31, 2024 (EDT)
::I see. Well, the few preview pages don't have that, so, to be on the safe side, I think I'll ignore this guide. Thanks for the help! [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 07:18, April 1, 2024 (EDT)


== MLSS Hammer Bro family ==
Not a problem. When I saw your summary explaining that the Koopalings were already mentioned under the Boss section, I understood what the point was. I mean I do believe Risa mentioned that they'd all be bosses in the game, so that does confirm their status, but it's true that we should leave it as it is until we physically see the other Koopalings in game, especially since we don't know if they'll all play the same boss status that Morton plays (some could be mini-bosses, some could be partnered up to protect Paint Stars, who knows. Just a few guesses). Anyway not a problem, I understand your point and it's all fine. {{User:Tails777/sig}}


To your knowledge, were the [[Border Bro|Kokkyō Kyodai]] ever indicated in Japanese sources to be related to [[Sumo Bro|the other "K.K." brothers]]? I have that question asked [[Talk:Border Bro|here]] and a related one [[Talk:Limbo Bro|here]]. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:03, September 12, 2024 (EDT)
==Re:Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash==
:Sorry that I reply only now. While the pun is pretty likely, the guide specifically referred to them as ハンマーブロス twice on page 24, so no official connection with the Sumo Bros. is acknowledged. I guess it’s just Alpha Dream that wanted a clever pun, but Nintendo already was pretty strict on making connections.—[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 17:20, September 29, 2024 (EDT)
[http://imgur.com/a/Wg4Le This is not good image formatting, heads up.] {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:09, 5 September 2016 (EDT)
:I definitely agree! What would be the best solution? Use of <nowiki>{{br}}</nowiki>?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:34, 5 September 2016 (EDT)
::How about a gallery? I think that would be the best organization for a cluster of images like this. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:35, 5 September 2016 (EDT)
:::I had to readapt the text separating the Ultra Smash and putting it in its own section, but in this particular case in which the text is only composed of sentences and doesn't include lists, tables and other objects the gallery can effectively work.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 19:06, 5 September 2016 (EDT)
::::Hmm it's better than the last effort, but there's something I still don't like about the gallery, there's too much text in the images. Perhaps a table is better? Sorry about the hassle, this is all experimentation. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 00:16, 6 September 2016 (EDT)
:::::I now created the table and even added the buttons that need to be pressed to execute the shots. If there are other improvements to be made, please tell me!--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 15:24, 6 September 2016 (EDT)

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