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{{block|reason=numerous violations of the [[MarioWiki:Courtesy|courtesy policy]]: edit warring and acting condescending, to name a few}}
<big>'''Rules:'''</big>
<big>'''Rules:'''</big>
#No flaming, spamming, or vandalism. Any flaming, spamming, or vandalism will be removed.
#No flaming, spamming, or vandalism. Any flaming, spamming, or vandalism will be removed.
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#I will most likely respond to you on this page, or your talk page. Be prepared for either of those options.
#I will most likely respond to you on this page, or your talk page. Be prepared for either of those options.
#Have fun!
#Have fun!
#I will archive once the page reaches 100 topics, or messages, or whatever the heck they're called these days, or when I just plain feel like it. Don't send the 100th message telling me to archive, because that's just plain irritating.
#I will archive once the page reaches 100 topics, or messages, or whatever the heck they're called these days. Don't send the 100th message telling me to archive, because that's just plain irritating.
#After all, remember to be a kid! After all, what's the point of being a grown-up if you're not going to move past your awesome and glorious days of childhood and act like a kid? As my high-school baseball coach once said to me, just let it fly. You're not going to go anywhere if you don't remember to keep your sense of humor about you these days. Just be a kid at heart and play like a champ--now THAT's how you really do it in style.
#After all, remember to be a kid! After all, what's the point of being a grown-up if you're not going to move past your awesome and glorious days of childhood and act like a kid? As my high-school baseball coach once said to me, just let it fly. You're not going to go anywhere if you don't remember to keep your sense of humor about you these days. Just be a kid at heart and play like a champ--now THAT's how you really do it in style.
{{welcome|Alex95}}
{{welcome|Alex95}}
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Yeah, sorry about that, man. I wasn't trying to be an asshole. I was just trying to talk. And yeah, my bad. The Warp Cannon ''does'' differ between games, now that you made it clear. I won't do it again. And by the way, where's the message he sent me?
Yeah, sorry about that, man. I wasn't trying to be an asshole. I was just trying to talk. And yeah, my bad. The Warp Cannon ''does'' differ between games, now that you made it clear. I won't do it again. And by the way, where's the message he sent me?
{{unsigned|Lcrossmk8}}
:Don't worry, this is just a note to remind you what to avoid next time. The message TheFlameChomp sent you is [[#Warp Cannon|directly above this one]]. As for your message on my talk page, no, you cannot remove warnings, or any kind of comments really (unless they are vandalism), especially ones given to you by a staff member. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:13, 23 June 2017 (EDT)
:Don't worry, this is just a note to remind you what to avoid next time. The message TheFlameChomp sent you is [[#Warp Cannon|directly above this one]]. As for your message on my talk page, no, you cannot remove warnings, or any kind of comments really (unless they are vandalism), especially ones given to you by a staff member. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:13, 23 June 2017 (EDT)


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== RE:Big Boo's Haunt Edits ==
== RE:Big Boo's Haunt Edits ==


Due to a translation error in the English version of ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'', [[King Boo]] is called Big Boo. Since this is an English wiki, that's what we go off of for his role in ''SM64DS''. There is a note of the differences on King Boo's actual page, though. For [[Yoshi]], no, he cannot enter [[Big Boo's Haunt]] at all, since no cap can be collected in [[Peach's Castle]]. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:37, 6 July 2017 (EDT)
Due to a translation error in the English version of ''[[Super Mario 64 DS]]'', [[King Boo]] is called Big Boo. Since this is an English wiki, that's what we go off of for his role in ''SM64DS''. There is a note of the differences on King Boo's actual page, though. For [[Yoshi]], no, he cannot enter [[Big Boo's Haunt]] at all, since no cap can be collected in [[Princess Peach's Castle]]. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:37, 6 July 2017 (EDT)
:No, the point is Yoshi can't get into the course to begin with. The entrance to Big Boo's Haunt is within a Big Boo in Peach's courtyard, which needs to be defeated. Since Yoshi can't damage Boos, he can't enter the course. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:11, 7 July 2017 (EDT)
:No, the point is Yoshi can't get into the course to begin with. The entrance to Big Boo's Haunt is within a Big Boo in Peach's courtyard, which needs to be defeated. Since Yoshi can't damage Boos, he can't enter the course. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:11, 7 July 2017 (EDT)


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:Additionally, do not repeatedly undo edits to converse with other users, as that is what's known as "edit warring" (i.e., undo someone else's edit after they undid yours on the same page). If you wish to have a discussion, please do so on someone's talk page. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 01:22, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
:Additionally, do not repeatedly undo edits to converse with other users, as that is what's known as "edit warring" (i.e., undo someone else's edit after they undid yours on the same page). If you wish to have a discussion, please do so on someone's talk page. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 01:22, 13 July 2017 (EDT)


{{last warning}}
{{lastwarn}}
I'm actually going to give you a warning for this (to serve as a reminder not to do this again, and as per warning policy) as you edit warred on [[Luigi's Mansion (course)|three]] [[Midbus|different]] [[Fawful|pages]](!) before continuing the discussion elsewhere. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 01:41, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
I'm actually going to give you a warning for this (to serve as a reminder not to do this again, and as per warning policy) as you edit warred on [[Luigi's Mansion (course)|three]] [[Midbus|different]] [[Fawful|pages]](!) before continuing the discussion elsewhere. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 01:41, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
:[[MarioWiki:Maintenance]] is a good place to start. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:40, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
:[[MarioWiki:Maintenance]] is a good place to start. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:40, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
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== RE:Vandals ==
== RE:Vandals ==
:Vandals are weird :P Also, was a little blunt with my earlier answer: You can help with reverting edits if you can, so long as you don't engage in an edit war or conversation with the vandal, but the blocking can only be done by members of the staff. If there's no staff member online (which has been rare, lately), there's always the [[MarioWiki:Staff noticeboard|admin noticeboard]] staff members watching it will get a notification from. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:56, 17 July 2017 (EDT)
:Vandals are weird :P Also, was a little blunt with my earlier answer: You can help with reverting edits if you can, so long as you don't engage in an edit war or conversation with the vandal, but the blocking can only be done by members of the staff. If there's no staff member online (which has been rare, lately), there's always the [[MarioWiki:Admin noticeboard|admin noticeboard]] staff members watching it will get a notification from. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:56, 17 July 2017 (EDT)


== RE:Raccoon Mario vs Tanooki Mario ==
== RE:Raccoon Mario vs Tanooki Mario ==
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==M3 Presentation checkpoint==
==M3 Presentation checkpoint==
Heya, I'm just sending you a message here since I know you're on the wiki more often than the forum.  Right now is currently the halfway point for working on your presentation, with it being due by August 4th.  As the PM states: "Please let us know that you received this PM, and what your current status is in terms of progress.  If you feel that you need to drop, now is the time to do it, but if you have any concerns please let us know so we can address them and find a solution that works best for everyone.  If you do not reply, it will be assumed that you are not working on the presentation and will be replaced."  When you're done with it be sure to send it privately [[mb:members/1129|to me on the forum]].  I'm looking forward to what you've got!!
Heya, I'm just sending you a message here since I know you're on the wiki more often than the forum.  Right now is currently the halfway point for working on your presentation, with it being due by August 4th.  As the PM states: "Please let us know that you received this PM, and what your current status is in terms of progress.  If you feel that you need to drop, now is the time to do it, but if you have any concerns please let us know so we can address them and find a solution that works best for everyone.  If you do not reply, it will be assumed that you are not working on the presentation and will be replaced."  When you're done with it be sure to send it privately [[forumuser:1129|to me on the forum]].  I'm looking forward to what you've got!!
{{User:Hypnotoad/sig}} 03:16, 27 July 2017 (EDT)
{{User:Hypnotoad/sig}} 03:16, 27 July 2017 (EDT)


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:::It's just that your comments look out of place when they're continuing a discussion while not being indented at all. When every other user is doing it, I don't understand why you would do something that makes it harder to hold a conversation. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 16:00, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
:::It's just that your comments look out of place when they're continuing a discussion while not being indented at all. When every other user is doing it, I don't understand why you would do something that makes it harder to hold a conversation. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 16:00, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
::::And yet you're not using them here despite this being a one-one-one conversation? Besides, there's absolutely no need to put unnecessary focus on your comment. They're the same as everyone else's comments. If you're having a discussion with someone, they're going to notice when you reply to them. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 16:10, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
::::And yet you're not using them here despite this being a one-one-one conversation? Besides, there's absolutely no need to put unnecessary focus on your comment. They're the same as everyone else's comments. If you're having a discussion with someone, they're going to notice when you reply to them. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 16:10, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
Oh my gosh I know right!? [[User:Ilovecats64|Ilovecats64]] ([[User talk:Ilovecats64|talk]]) 19:49, 20 November 2017 (EST)


== Some advice ==
== Some advice ==
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1. My nickname is '''The Black Lightning''', not [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Wendy_O._Koopa&curid=1919&diff=2322972&oldid=2322943 Green Thunder] (though I do like that you used any nickname)<br>
1. My nickname is '''The Black Lightning''', not [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Wendy_O._Koopa&curid=1919&diff=2322972&oldid=2322943 Green Thunder] (though I do like that you used any nickname)<br>
2. You might want to think about archiving your talk page sometime soon. This is done by moving the current page to '''User talk:Lcrossmk8/Archive 1'''. Place {{tem|talk archive}} at the top of the archive.<br>
2. You might want to think about archiving your talk page sometime soon. This is done by moving the current page to '''User talk:Lcrossmk8/Archive 1'''. Place {{tem|Talkarchive}} at the top of the archive.<br>
That's all, I guess...<br>
That's all, I guess...<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:07, 27 October 2017 (EDT)
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:07, 27 October 2017 (EDT)
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[[User_talk:Lcrossmk8#RE:knock.2C_knock...|You've been warned for this once before]], and your [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Proposals&diff=2334826&oldid=2334822 recent comment] on Howzit's proposal definitely crosses the line. Assume good faith for ''everyone'' on the wiki, and especially don't dismiss them as a joke no matter what you believe. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 01:25, 12 November 2017 (EST)
[[User_talk:Lcrossmk8#RE:knock.2C_knock...|You've been warned for this once before]], and your [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Proposals&diff=2334826&oldid=2334822 recent comment] on Howzit's proposal definitely crosses the line. Assume good faith for ''everyone'' on the wiki, and especially don't dismiss them as a joke no matter what you believe. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 01:25, 12 November 2017 (EST)
:Telling someone that they shouldn't be offended does not prevent you from being offensive. Dismissing someone's actions as a joke is insulting. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 16:32, 12 November 2017 (EST)
:Telling someone that they shouldn't be offended does not prevent you from being offensive. Dismissing someone's actions as a joke is insulting. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 16:32, 12 November 2017 (EST)
I'm also going to extend this to [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Jjrapper100&curid=93605&diff=2350126&oldid=2332861 demeaning terms in general], and calling someone "kid" is definitely rude, especially considering how they've been on the wiki for many more years than you. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:44, 1 December 2017 (EST)
:Think before you speak. Always. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:47, 1 December 2017 (EST)


==Proposal results==
==Proposal results==
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I know you're trying to help, but jumping into a discussion being taken care of by the staff, especially if said discussion involves a warning, don't get involved. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:16, 15 November 2017 (EST)
I know you're trying to help, but jumping into a discussion being taken care of by the staff, especially if said discussion involves a warning, don't get involved. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:16, 15 November 2017 (EST)
:It's best to not get involved with ''any'' discussion that doesn't concern you anyway. It'll likely just end up making matters worse or confusing. [[#Heads up|I believe I said something like this to you before]]. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 10:10, 16 November 2017 (EST)
::Right. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:39, 16 November 2017 (EST)
== Luigi artwork ==
{{User|Astro-Lanceur}} beat me to it, but it's best to not continue reverting the action. Essentially, the ''Mario Party 10'' artwork is newer and more detailed, originating from 2015, with ''The Top 100'' reusing Luigi's from 2014. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:08, 23 November 2017 (EST)
:Mario got a new artwork for ''The Top 100'', whereas Luigi did not. Mario also has ''Super Mario Odyssey''. I agree Luigi's can change if there is a new image available. Might want to bring it up on Luigi's talk page. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:25, 23 November 2017 (EST)
i am da grammar police {{User:Mario Kart DS Fan/sig}}
== RE:Did You Know? edit ==
Why are you asking me that question? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 21:49, 24 November 2017 (EST)
:Again, why are you asking ''me'' that question? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 21:51, 24 November 2017 (EST)
::Pardon, but I'm not a bottomless well of information. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 21:57, 24 November 2017 (EST)
I'll answer your question for you: the people at the ESRB are bonkers. That's about as good of a reason as you'll get. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 21:59, 24 November 2017 (EST)
== Reminder templates ==
If you intend a message to be "just a polite reminder, and nothing more", you should not leave an official template. Those should only be used when a user is breaking a rule, not simply doing something that bothers you. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 21:17, 4 December 2017 (EST)
== Private Goomp ==
Actually no he isn't Captain Goomba is just telling him that it brings back memories for him. If it was Private Goomp, then he would've risen from a regular goomba to Private Goomp sometime between the crash and reuniting, which Couldn't have happened due to Bowser being "lost"
Furthermore, when first met, Captain Goomba immediately refers to him as Private Goomp, meaning, he's already known throught the ranks. no evidence supports Goomp being that specific goomba.[[User:Pikmin theories|Pikmin theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin theories|talk]]) 22:50, 7 December 2017 (EST)
Hmmm..... I suppose you have a point..... although I was kind of under the impressinon the Captain was referring to what Goomp said before the first battle with the trio......[[User:Pikmin theories|Pikmin theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin theories|talk]]) 23:03, 7 December 2017 (EST)
Although.... wouldn't he already be dressed in his outfit if it was him though at his corresponding rank?[[User:Pikmin theories|Pikmin theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin theories|talk]]) 23:08, 7 December 2017 (EST)
Ehh... I don't really get it, I'll just take your word for it. Personally it still seems like he's remembering before changing the subject (hence Goomp's confusion) and it's just another generic goomba in the barrel agreeing with the cap...... than again do we know which side the Cap's on? anyway hard to tell.... It IS Captain Goomba after all.... (Procceds to run into wall) Who put that wall there? [[User:Pikmin theories|Pikmin theories]] ([[User talk:Pikmin theories|talk]]) 23:20, 7 December 2017 (EST)
== Removing votes ==
There is a process to remove votes. Your vote went through that process. And frankly, no, it wasn't valid: hypothetical scenarios mean nothing in the present. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 21:55, 17 December 2017 (EST)
:[[MarioWiki:Featured_articles#How_to_nominate|Read this section]], and then read [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Featured_articles/Unfeature/N/Super_Mario_3D_World&oldid=2357133 why it was removed]. Also, don't give such a vague defence of your vote as if that totally justifies it, and there are many, many, ''many'' scenarios where certain votes would be entirely invalid. For a concrete example, any fan votes are [[MarioWiki:Featured_articles#The_overall_process|immediately removed]]. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:02, 17 December 2017 (EST)
::It's not that complicated. Users have already outlined why your vote was removed. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:09, 17 December 2017 (EST)
== Redirects ==
[[MarioWiki:Redirects]]:
<blockquote>
Redirects are only unnecessary when [...] the search function takes the user to the correct page without said redirect.
</blockquote>
Just letting you know that the redirect [[World 8-Castle (New Super Mario Bros.)]] was deleted because it is unnecessary; no other page has the title "[[World 8-Castle]]". The correct page doesn't need the identifier, so it doesn't need the redirect. It may appear to be inconsistent, but the same thing occurs with [[World A|''Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels'']] and [[World 1-Fortress|''Super Mario Bros. 3'']] for example. In the future, if something was deleted for a reason, bring up a discussion before you immediately recreate the page that contradicts said reason. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:51, 18 December 2017 (EST)
== BLOF ==
"BLOF" is [[User:Baby Luigi|her]]. Lol. Her old username was "Baby Luigi On Fire." {{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
:I think "stupid alien spaceship" to describe "BLOF" is fairly fitting, since my character design was designed after captain parts in Spore: Galactic Adventures and everyone has a stupid alien spaceship in that game. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 21:45, 23 December 2017 (EST)
::Worth noting the "on fire" part is still used on Steam, as I've found ''Mario Kart Wii'' karts posted by that account for GMod. I think? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:29, 23 December 2017 (EST)
:::That is most certainly me. I've used the "OnFire" suffix in other places, recently changed my display name on that account (mostly for Left 4 Dead 2 reasons, because I have a survivor Baby Luigi and the name causes confusion when a Special Infected kill comes up when I'm not playing as him). Sometimes, plain "Baby Luigi" is taken and "BabyLuigiOnFire" has a little bit more personality than just Baby Luigi. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 22:35, 23 December 2017 (EST)
==Wario==
The pic being interpreted in many different ways is exactly why we don't take its word for it, because it's overly vague and it doesn't have a place as a definitive statement in the personality section. And I know Wario isn't necessarily evil, but, he's still not necessarily a good guy either; it's not black and white, and I interpreted that picture that Wario is training Waluigi to be just as bad as him, which is why I made that Bowser comparison; additionally, Bowser "trains" them too in Mario Power Tennis's opening, that doesn't make him a good guy just because he's training them to get better. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 18:37, 24 December 2017 (EST)
:Let's not make assumptions around my intentions on removing information based purely because of the subject matter at hand and not because I'm not being honest about wiki editing, because that ''always'' ends badly.
:Again, that is only your interpretation. My interpretation is that he wants Waluigi to be just as a good bad guy as he is. This is why we don't put either of our interpretation into the article, because, again, it's extremely vague and this type of information does not belong in personality sections, unless the personality portrayed is very obvious and the fact that we are arguing about our interpretations in the first place means that it is not obvious. And just because Wario cares about another character who has been consistently portrayed as a goon doesn't necessarily make him "soft" nor "nice", it simply means he likes Waluigi, which is already detailed in the "interactions with other characters" section. Furthermore, is that picture your only proof that Wario has this soft side? Because you make it out as if that picture is only one of the many times Wario has been acting contradictory to his overall personality. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:07, 24 December 2017 (EST)
::Your analogy doesn't work, because the relationship between Bowser and his son is far more clear cut out than Wario and Waluigi are, and we see a lot of examples of Bowser having a soft side towards his son, examples include Mario Party: Island Tour, Super Mario Sunshine, Fortune Street, etc. On the other hand, this one picture is your only example of this so-called soft side of Wario, and Wario doesn't even look soft in that picture, he's more like "you need to man up if you want to compete with those loser Mario Bros." rather than "Oh you're struggling with this? Let me help you out, my friend!", which is again, just reiterated information from the "interactions with other characters" section. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:19, 24 December 2017 (EST)
:::And that fits well enough in the interactions with other characters" section, without any extra strings attached or any extra assumptions. I don't see why Wario's treatment towards Waluigi should get its own paragraph in there. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:42, 24 December 2017 (EST)
::::And to me, it looks like he's caring in that area only to stroke his own ego, or to use Waluigi just to gloat for himself. Also I really don't think he's "morally ambiguous" as you think he is, games like WarioWare, Wario Land: Shake It, Mario Super Sluggers, etc. clearly has him doing some of these things ''only'' for the advancement of his own goals rather than simply being a good Samaritan and helping others out. Also, I'd argue that being driven by contempt for Mario and greed is another type of bad and a similar mindset to what one has when they think of world domination: self-gain at the expense of everyone else, so morally, it's on the same side as world domination. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 19:53, 24 December 2017 (EST)
:::::That's why I believe we avoid putting our opinions and interpretations into articles. If there was more solid evidence, such as written text, bios, or cutscenes that actively show it, then it can be noted. But vague things like that is why I removed it, because of how loose interpretations of Mario characters are. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:05, 24 December 2017 (EST)
::::::I don't really ponder about the morality of characters in this franchise to be honest. It's the same franchise [[Mario Strikers Charged|where characters smack each other into electric fences]] and [[Mario Party 2|characters immediately arguing each other who gets to construct the land of their dreams]]. It's best not to overthink things. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 20:11, 24 December 2017 (EST)
== Greetings ==
Hi There. i saw you due to your Edit which later appeared in the page history of Stage 4-6. i've never seen You around here Before. Ya new here? [[User:LUIGIRULES71|LUIGIRULES71]]
== Your vote was removed for a good reason ==
Read. The. Rules. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:10, 1 January 2018 (EST)
:[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Featured_articles/Unfeature/N/Super_Mario_3D_World&diff=2366857&oldid=2366408 Look.] {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:13, 1 January 2018 (EST)
::The point of removing your vote is that your vote is null and void. Come back when you actually have a good reason to oppose it. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:16, 1 January 2018 (EST)
:::Oh my god, are you really that arrogant? Your vote was removed because three users, including an admin, voted against it. Look at the reasons why your vote was removed before telling me that it was good. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:18, 1 January 2018 (EST)
::::Why are you attempting to add back your vote, then, and why are you telling me that I removed your vote without looking? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:23, 1 January 2018 (EST)
:::::No, you do not have the right to oppose the nomination when your reasons were literally deemed to be insufficient. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:26, 1 January 2018 (EST)
::::::It does not work that way. You don't get to say that after multiple users, including an admin, voted to remove your opposition. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:30, 1 January 2018 (EST)
:::::::Attempting to insinuate that I'm angry really doesn't invalidate anything that I've said, and you shouldn't have to be told to [[MarioWiki:Don't shoot your foot off|not shoot your foot off]]. Listen to other people. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:35, 1 January 2018 (EST)
::::I'm just going to jump in here and say that your vote was removed, which means you shouldn't have added another without some discussion somewhere. Yes, [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Featured_articles/Unfeature/N/Super_Mario_3D_World&diff=next&oldid=2366861 your new vote] was different [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Featured_articles/Unfeature/N/Super_Mario_3D_World&diff=prev&oldid=2366857 from your original one], but, to quote Baby Luigi, there are major issues. The tables actually look terrible on mobile devices, going off the screen, and [[Super_Mario_3D_World#Critical_reception|there is an improvement tag on the page]], which automatically '''disqualifies''' ''Super Mario 3D World'' from nomination. There are still issues here, so your vote to oppose should be readded once the problems are fixed, not before. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:31, 1 January 2018 (EST)
:::::I'm going to jump into this as well, since I'm the one who voted to remove your vote... '''twice''' may I add. You can't abuse the system like that, keep it featured, ignore everyone's comments and reinstate your vote for the third time without addressing the serious problems the article has. That's not how this system works. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:18, 2 January 2018 (EST)
For the tables, what do you think of [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Super_Mario_3D_World&oldid=2360494 this] as a solution? I tried to do that but it is controversial. It is good because it is shorter, more compatible, and IMO it is not necessary to have the descriptions. It is bad because it does not have the descriptions and is long when viewed on mobile, but at least it does work. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 23:06, 1 January 2018 (EST)
== Quotes ==
Just to let you know, [https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=23303.msg1255992#msg1255992 not every single line, or even the vast majority of lines, should be included on the quote subpages]. They should be kept to the most relevant lines for every character, if possible. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 23:54, 1 January 2018 (EST)
:Keep in mind that this also applies to quotes that are functionally identical to one another, i.e. they demonstrate the exact same characteristics of the speaker. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 23:57, 1 January 2018 (EST)
::You really should think about what you're including and add to pages constructively. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 00:05, 2 January 2018 (EST)
== sup Lcross ==
Wanna be friends if you do my code {{userbox|border=orange|mainbkgd=green|codebkgd=brown|codecolor=#000|code=[[Image:Astro-Lanceur Icon SMO.png|50px]]|msg=This user is friends with [[User:Astro-Lanceur|MKDSFan.]]}} so....... you like it? {{User:Mario Kart DS Fan/sig}}
== RE: Comment removal ==
Per [[MarioWiki:BJAODN]]: "Commentary should make the entries funnier." Saying something like "great grammar" (bad grammar), in an archive where nearly all entries revolve around bad grammar, isn't that funny. The opening sentence also doesn't need a comment as it isn't a BJAODN entry. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:02, 8 January 2018 (EST)
:To add to this, comments on BJAODN are really best added for newer entries. Leaving a comment on an older post is just an unnecessary addition. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:27, 16 January 2018 (EST)
::Humor is something that should really just come naturally. If you try to force it, it may end up having the opposite effect of what was intended. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:31, 16 January 2018 (EST)
:::You too, man. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:35, 16 January 2018 (EST)
== Re:Luigi in Mario Odyssey ==
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzWTv3P-zbI Literally confirmed in the Nintendo Direct]. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 23:21, 15 January 2018 (EST)
== World 7 NSMB ==
You do realize that [[World 7 (New Super Mario Bros.)]] lists the levels. The levels themselves have their own pages, much like how WMOD deserves the same. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
== RE:Sequels and follow-ups ==
I think Nintendo may have confirmed those themselves, but I honestly can't find anything. The game uses plenty of assets and mechanics from ''Wii'', so I would consider it a sequel. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:08, 16 January 2018 (EST)
== RE: Luigi edit ==
The phrase itself. Idioms like that don't fit on a wiki page. There's nothing wrong with how it's worded now so there's no need to change it. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:10, 20 January 2018 (EST)
== Edit conflicts ==
It's a tad hypocritical to complain about me "edit conflict"ing you, followed by you making ''four'' back-to-back edits that cause me to get edit conflicted several times back-to-back for 40 whole seconds. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:52, 22 January 2018 (EST)
:Well don't complain about it and then go on a consecutive-edit-fest, OK? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:54, 22 January 2018 (EST)
::Hat trick? You're speaking in obscure 50s slang again, don't do that. Then again, I'm the person who only just now realized that Kersti's name isn't "Kertsi"... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]])
:::I actually typo'd that as "Kertsi" initially because it was a random short character article and I didn't really care for her. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:59, 22 January 2018 (EST)
:::Hockey? Dude, I live in Missouri, not Nova Scotia. You can't reasonably expect me to know a term from an incompatible environment. Also, I don't like sports because they smell like kale. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:12, 23 January 2018 (EST)
::::Eek, big city. They always have [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3Sjr4e9YGo this] playing in the background. Though the toothed bird might make it spookier... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:24, 23 January 2018 (EST)
:::::Doc, В хоккей играют настоящие мужчины. You should know hockey terms like a real man because real men play hockey. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 00:40, 23 January 2018 (EST)
::::::But I'm more like Vivian.... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:12, 23 January 2018 (EST)
==Choco Mountain==
Why do you find it annoying? It's rather short, the obstacles are fairly easy to dodge, and it looks like delicious chocolate. I kinda like it, myself. Granted, I've only played the MK64 version.... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:29, 26 January 2018 (EST)
:I personally find the various vehicles (which are always everywhere and not just in one small part) in Toad's Turnpike to be far worse. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:11, 26 January 2018 (EST)
== SMB3 White Block ==
The white block easter egg in ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' is a very well-known easter egg.<br>
Just watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owRYdqX4twM {{User:LuigiMaster123/sig}} 00:23, 27 January 2018 (EST)
:I'm not going to revert your edit though as the info about the appearance of the easter egg in Celeste is already included in [[List of Mario references in third-party video games]]. {{User:LuigiMaster123/sig}} 00:26, 27 January 2018 (EST)
==New Story==
Yes, it is indeed a new story. Hence why the Invincishroom, which originally was an evil-looking but still believable mushroom given by a shady guy which gave Mario food poisoning solely due to being foreign food was changed to actually being a poison mushroom (called an "Invincibility Shroom") plucked by one Goomba and his hypocritical companions' combined auras of stupidity. The very inclusion of Little Fungitown in that mode caused an unfortunately-necessary retcon in that they didn't want to defend a town full of Toads, while they might have been less apprehensive if there was [[Psycho Kamek|a Koopa]] living there. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:55, 28 January 2018 (EST)
:The scene ''with'' the Koopalings is irreconcilably different. Not only is Ludwig fought differently, but the scene Bowletta siccing the Koopalings on the Bros. is completely different. Also, the original Invincishroom was indeed intended to be an Invincishroom. That's why the explanation was getting "bean fever" through food poisoning and not just having eaten a Poison Mushroom.  Bowser's amnesia through getting conked by a falling Goomba is also new, as originally it was just intended to be from the impact of getting shot from Tolstar's cannon by Sergeant Starshade. Also, don't talk to people like you did to me, or you might be put back on last warn. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:39, 28 January 2018 (EST)
:Also, how did you not know about the white block trick in SMB3? It's how the first warp whistle is obtained, has been on here for ages.... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:40, 28 January 2018 (EST)
::I'm going to point out [[Dr. Toadley]] replacing [[Psycho Kamek]] as an irreconcilable difference. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:51, 28 January 2018 (EST)
:::There is at least inconsistency too. [[Spangle]] appears in a level where he has meet someone, but Spangle's dialogue (where he hasn't seen anyone) remains the same. And the later can't be before the former as Mario and Luigi can't meet Spangle before the Ultra Hammer which is before Mario got Bean Fever. And the level played is before that is seen. If it wasn't for the fact that the Mario series has no cannon, this would be a surprise.
:::As for what Nintendo said, they say new as well, though this is on their website: https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/mario-luigi-superstar-saga-bowsers-minions-3ds. But neither untold (unfold is the closest) nor new is mentioned in the very beginning of it (including it's introduction in the main game). {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 23:05, 28 January 2018 (EST)
:::That doesn't change how it was clearly retconned. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 23:07, 28 January 2018 (EST)
::::I can't really say that it fits that definition 100% of the time. Besides what have been mentioned, the only thing that can put it under that definition is the Piranha Bean decided to eat Prince Peasley due to Bowser's Minions earlier. Most of the story is new to the main game (as the Koopalings are never seen until Bowser's Castle, yet they appear throughout Beanbean Kingdom in this mode. Even then, this could of helped caused Fawful's risen self esteem along with Cackletta's revival as Bowletta.), and this is the only thing that can get it out of the retcon state. Currently, what the article says is good as it is. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 23:27, 28 January 2018 (EST) Edit: and yes, I have seen the trailer. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 23:29, 28 January 2018 (EST)
:::::Really? If it helps, I will add the definition I Binged.
:::::''"revise (an aspect of a fictional work) retrospectively, typically by introducing a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events"'' {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 23:35, 28 January 2018 (EST)
::::::It is not a "theory" that it is new. Captain Goomba did not exist back in 2003. Period. Just a personality-less Goomba in a barrel with no effect on the story other than being a tutorial for using Luigi and Mario at the same time. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:42, 28 January 2018 (EST)
:::::::And an expansion is still a revision, as it makes things different. Which is what a revision is. By definition. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:46, 28 January 2018 (EST)
::::::::That is in no way the definition of revision. You know how updates to games will make them "v1.8" or "v2.5" or things like that? Those are revisions. By definition. A revision doesn't hae to make ''everything'' different, it has to make ''something'' different. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:50, 28 January 2018 (EST)
:::::::::Again, your definition of "revision" is outright wrong. Nix that definition from your mind and burn it. Otherwise this conversation will go nowhere. Also, ''Mario 64'' and ''Mario 64 DS'' are incomparable to ''SS'' and ''SS+BM'', as the platformers mentioned are not as story-driven as ''SS'' was, and as such come off as different games entirely from each other, and not an updated re-release with a few changes like the ''SS'' ones do. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:02, 29 January 2018 (EST)
:"Betray the continuity?" What the Düsseldorf does that mean? It's a retcon, plain and simple. There were no Mecahwful/Mecha-Fawfuls in 2003. They didn't exist in-universe, even. None of the remake-exclusive stuff did. At all. Also, SM64 and SM64DS are two totally-different games in terms of story, to which I'm citing Yoshi's irreconcilably-different role between them. It's less a retelling and more a {{wp|For want of a nail}} reimagining. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:14, 29 January 2018 (EST)
::OK, we've provided numerous things proving that there's been retconning, while you've provided your unbacked claims of them being "too similar" to be different. If that's the case, let's merge Goombo and Goomba, as they're near-identical despite being different things! Yoshi's roles between 64 and 64DS are ''irreconcilable''. It's not a retelling, it's a "For Want of a Nail" reimagining. It looks like it's going to be the same at first, then something different happens that throws everything off and makes it different. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:36, 29 January 2018 (EST)
:::"They're reconcilable because they're both on the roof." If that's the case, then SMB the game and SMB the movie are reconcilable because they stand on the ground. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:46, 29 January 2018 (EST)
::::Yes, the roof thing does have to do with the story. No, they are ''far'' from the ''same'' something to do with the story between SM64 and SM64DS. Talk to someone else about this, I grow tired of this. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:55, 29 January 2018 (EST)
== Русский язык ==
меня зовут Малыш Луиджи. Как вас зовут? I'm self-taught mostly, and I've recently acquired a taste for Russian stuff so I wanted to learn more about them. I've learned how to transcribe Cyrillic into Latin through...uh...looking at Mario characters names and memorizing what each symbol meant. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:39, 28 January 2018 (EST)
:I have my hot-headed moments. We all do. Right now, I'm pretty occupied with many tasks at once, so sorry if I sound very brisk.  {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:44, 28 January 2018 (EST)

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