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| Now that all was a bit hard for me to explain, but basically it's a matter of case-by-case to me. Overall, citations make the articles look well researched. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 16:50, November 18, 2024 (EST) | | Now that all was a bit hard for me to explain, but basically it's a matter of case-by-case to me. Overall, citations make the articles look well researched. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 16:50, November 18, 2024 (EST) |
| :I agree. The more esoteric the steps are that a player has to follow to get to a point in a game, the more practical it becomes to actively source that somehow. I've done that myself, [[Pumpkin#Luigi's_Mansion:_Dark_Moon|here]] for instance, where I wanted to describe as thoroughly as I could how pumpkins work in ''Luigi's Mansion 2'' (on 3DS). Not only is the area they are found in officially unplayable with Nintendo discontinuing 3DS online play, but even before, you had to scour entire rooms in that level to find the object in question and have some other specific enemies in the same room interact with it. Having some footage on hand to demonstrate how this object acts gameplay-wise, already convenient in itself, is much needed in these circumstances. For similar reasons, I'm planning on uploading some self-recorded gameplay footage of Mario Kart Tour to YouTube in order to source some claims on the articles for [[Toy Duck]], [[Toy Goomba]], and [[Hoop]]--background objects that most players (including YT let's-players) are unlikely to care about or even be aware that they're gameplay-relevant during the [[Vacation Tour|short time frame]] they appear in the game. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:14, November 18, 2024 (EST) | | :I agree. The more esoteric the steps are that a player has to follow to get to a point in a game, the more practical it becomes to actively source that somehow. I've done that myself, [[Pumpkin#Luigi's_Mansion:_Dark_Moon|here]] for instance, where I wanted to describe as thoroughly as I could how pumpkins work in ''Luigi's Mansion 2'' (on 3DS). Not only is the area they are found in officially unplayable with Nintendo discontinuing 3DS online play, but even before, you had to scour entire rooms in that level to find the object in question and have some other specific enemies in the same room interact with it. Having some footage on hand to demonstrate how this object acts gameplay-wise, already convenient in itself, is much needed in these circumstances. For similar reasons, I'm planning on uploading some self-recorded gameplay footage of Mario Kart Tour to YouTube in order to source some claims on the articles for [[Toy Duck]], [[Toy Goomba]], and [[Hoop]]--background objects that most players (including YT let's-players) are unlikely to care about or even be aware that they're gameplay-relevant during the [[Vacation Tour|short time frame]] they appear in the game. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:14, November 18, 2024 (EST) |
| ::While adding some citations to the [[Ashley]] page, I already was able to correct a mistake in it, where it said Red wanted Ashley's forgiveness for not catching Orbulon, when what actually happened was Red simply apologized for being unable to catch him. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 14:30, December 15, 2024 (EST)
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| :{{@|Mario}} Wario's stupidity is a boon for marine ecology. He's enough fish food to beget countless new generations of [[Cheep Chomp]]s and expand [[Sparkling Waters]] with at least 5 more levels. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 12:50, November 25, 2024 (EST) | | :{{@|Mario}} Wario's stupidity is a boon for marine ecology. He's enough food to beget countless new generations of [[Cheep Chomp]]s and expand [[Sparkling Waters]] with at least 5 more levels. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 12:50, November 25, 2024 (EST) |
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| In regards to the recent Main Page TTP, a question we have that is entirely unrelated to it aside from "you used the word in your vote", but we're curious because we have never seen that word used like that; what did you mean by "lacunar"? The only thing that comes up is... A type of tumor, which we assume is ''not'' what was intended, so we're curious what you meant there. :O {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 17:00, December 18, 2024 (EST)
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| :It's probably one of those words that are so uncommon in speech that they almost only crop up in fixed phrases. Googling the word "lacunar" indeed primarily brings up a medical condition (though not a tumor). I knew the word is encountered in my language a bit more often and with a general, multi-purpose sense to it, being defined as "[https://dexonline.ro/definitie/lacunar somehing that presents lacunae, gaps]" <small>(dexonline.com)</small> in both a literal and figurative sense (e.g. gaps of knowledge). Going off of that, I did look up if the word exists in English prior to me using it here--lo and behold, it does, being just another one of those Latin loanwords used in English to describe concepts handily. Oxford describes it (as seen immediately upon googling "lacunar meaning") as "relating to a lacuna", where "lacuna" is further defined as "an unfilled space; a gap"; so pretty much the same definition I was familiar with. On the other hand, [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lacunar Wiktionary] stresses that the word has more of a medical purpose, but I don't know where they source this from and I'm a bit wary of calling a community-written dictionary an authority.<br>Do I endorse the usage of the word? Well, seeing as I ''did'' use it, I guess the answer is obvious. But with your message, I'm given this opportunity to step back and notice that my use of the word probably came off as pretentious to an English speaker. However, I encourage you to acknowledge my linguistic background so presented, which impelled me to use this word, and I'd ultimately be happy if I helped enrich your thesaurus, having definitely taken note of your extensive vocabulary. I don't know if I'd go so far as to use it in mainspace articles, though, what with trying to maintain a type of language as accessible as possible to readers. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 20:06, December 18, 2024 (EST), edited 20:12, December 18, 2024 (EST)
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| ::Admittedly, we don't know ''how'' much of that we really internalized (though, we guess that's something that comes with time), but that definitely makes more sense than just. Seeing the word abruptly like that. That's gotta be up there with one of the most obscure definitions of a word, for sure--and the medical definition it usually has isn't helping matters. ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 22:13, December 18, 2024 (EST)
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| I appreciate your help with the citations. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 10:27, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| :[[File:Mario and Luigi high-five - Super Mario Sticker.gif|200px]]<br>I hope you don't mind me removing the "-us" in "language=en-us" when the publisher is Nintendo of America. My view is that the variety of English used in NoA material is already apparent in the name of the company. You could argue that NoA is in fact Pan-American and covers multiple regions other than the US, of which Canada is their only other English-speaking market, so it's important to specify that a source is "American English" as opposed to "Canadian English" regardless of how redundant it may sound; but even then, products sold and promoted in Canada always seem to just use the American English localization. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 10:53, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| ::Yeah I've been undecided on that when I noticed you remove some of it. I felt it helped contextualize the region where the material had been released, even if spelling and grammar was no different. If there's clear instances of American, Australian, Canadian, or British English being used, do you think it should be used as the language code? [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 10:59, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| :::IMO if the language used is demonstrably one particular variety, language code can easily be employed. A text that uses spellings such as "colour" and "realise" can't be classified as American English. However, in a few cases, the text used by Nintendo is the exact same across regions, and this may not be illustrated well if one were to differentiate between sources based on what language variety is ''supposed'' to be spoken in its region. The [https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/News/2024/November/Find-your-sea-legs-with-ten-tips-for-Mario-Luigi-Brothership-2694544.html British] and [https://www.nintendo.com/en-za/News/2024/November/Find-your-sea-legs-with-ten-tips-for-Mario-Luigi-Brothership-2694544.html South African] branches of nintendo.com use the exact same text for their articles (check with https://text-compare.com/); if I were to source these linked articles on the wiki, I'd probably use the "en-gb" code for the former in the citation's "language" parameter for simplicity, but type out something like "English, South Africa" for the latter. If it looks inconsistent or is otherwise unhelpful, I'm willing to change up my practice, but I also need to make sure the way it's done is accurate. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 11:16, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| You are receiving a last warning for undermining admin authority and discourteous behavior. See [[User talk:Mario#Special:Diff.2F4473607]], the purpose of an administrator is to step in and set boundaries in situations such as these. Additionally, you didn't need to go onto Mario's talk page when the discussion should've stayed on the article at hand - this further escalated the conflict. And please, discuss on the talk page or start a proposal before readding content relating to pornography on [[List of references on the Internet]]. [[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 20:14, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| Hi, we understand why you decided to appeal. To clarify, we at the staff rooms have actually decided to have Technetium dish out the last warning for the interaction to try to avoid being retaliatory rather than constructive. I decided I needed to back up Technetium, hopefully for all of us to learn from this encounter. I, however, maintain that the key points stand: this is a continuation of the earlier warning. We will request again that you treat users here with more respect, and please assume good faith in your comments. For instance, the issue with your recent comment toward me was an unwarranted questioning of my motives behind my decision to preface my edit[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Mario&diff=4473620&oldid=4473214] which I clarified, though honestly I felt a little hurt. This should not have happened, and while you have acknowledged later that you misread my comment[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Appeals&diff=prev&oldid=4473651] and admitted it was brash, you must avoid engaging in this behavior, assuming bad faith; it's not constructive. Instead, assume I have sincere, good, and community-conductive intentions behind my comments, that users have disagreed with your points because they have found major flaws with them (and not because it's a personal attack of you and they're not commenting on your worth as an editor).
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| I also understand that all of us have made curt, angry, passive-aggressive, or otherwise difficult comments in the past, but we need to set down some boundaries on your behavior here. I do believe you understand what you've done wrong, so I am expecting you to gradually improve (your acknowledgement in the first warning is an encouraging sign, but we will need to see more improvement). But this is a good time to start seriously reevaluating this, and I hope you use this opportunity to continue to helpful to the wiki down the line, in spite of this rocky road.
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| EC: While I was making this post, I just noticed you submitted a request for account deletion, which is unfortunate. But as I said to Super Mario RPG (who wanted to quit the site after being blocked) a while back, I don't support the decision. Instead I recommend you cool off for several days, give yourself time to think through what you can do to improve, and come back with a clearer head. I don't think it helps to make such major and irreversible decisions like this so swiftly, you may end up regretting it. I won't stop you if you follow through and insist, but even if you feel this community is too stressful for you to continue, even after a week or so, then we'll reconsider (even so, I recommend just logging off or spending time in places that make you happier). Keep in mind you have made plenty of positive contributions here, it's why I'm lending you such advice, and I sincerely hope you follow. Ty, and happy trails. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:29, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| :Thank you for this comment. Leaving this community is something I've been eyeing for... years now, I believe. As I said in my request, contributing here felt more like busywork to me. As I uploaded industrial amounts of pictures, copy-pasted info, and fixed code, I slowly realized that I'm hardly deriving passion from the project (despite obviously maintaining some commitment to it) and that it's not really something I feel inspired to do going forward. In my teenage years, finding escapism in editing the wiki was great, but those days are long over now, and I need to find new hobbies. The unhappy interactions I had only compounded the issue. Truthfully, I have other areas to grow in, and I've long consumed my opportunities here. The warning, and really just this evening's interaction, was simply the straw the broke the camel's back; my decision has been a long time coming, and even if I have spells of regret, I'll remind myself that it's the better decision. I'd give you a bucket of Warios as farewell, but my garden's all wilted. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 21:51, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| You've done a great job here, so I'm sorry to see you go. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 21:24, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| :Thank you! Hiccups aside (we all do them), you've been an assiduous hard worker, and you've shown great responsiveness to criticism and feedback where others would have probably felt discouraged. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 21:52, December 26, 2024 (EST), edited 21:54, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| I saw your request for account deletion, and I'll be honest, my gut reaction was like "are you ''sure''?", since it's come so quickly from your last warning, and a lot of rash decisions with big consequences can lead to great regret. But if what you just said to Mario is true, and you've been thinking about doing so for a while, then so be it, I suppose. I personally would not have the guts to request for an account deletion on any website unless I'm ''absolutely'' certain I'm ''never'' coming back. Regardless, I would still like to say goodbye. You've done pretty well on the wiki from what I've seen, so I'm certain a lot of people are gonna miss you. Take care, and good luck in your next venture. {{User:Arend/sig}} 22:08, December 26, 2024 (EST)
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| If this is so, I'll be lighting another candle on New Year's - not with sorrow, but for good wishes on your future endeavors. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:03, December 28, 2024 (EST)
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| I do not know where you personally feel, and I understand the desire to remove oneself from a hobby they do not enjoy as much as they used to, but you should know that your contributions to this wiki have been invaluable and you are one of the users that has been particularly responsible in shaping the way it is today. This place would not be the same without you, and it is unfortunate that you want to leave. I hope it is not because you feel like this site is not "yours" anymore, or that you are not a valued member of this community. Because regardless of how things may seem from where you are standing, you are. The kind words you have shared of [[MarioWiki:Featured articles/N4/Super Mario Galaxy|me and the work I have done]] in particular have meant a great deal to me personally. I am not sure I would have become as involved as I am without this type of encouragement from you and others. So, thank you. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 22:54, January 3, 2025 (EST)
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| == guide to mainline subjects that still need articles ==
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| Hi, Kopa con Carne. I hope you're doing well. Over the past few weeks, I have been working to put together a large guide to subjects in the mainline series that still need articles on the wiki. It includes a brief description of each subject, an attested English name, and their Japanese name. My hope is that other users can use this as a launching point to research and make these articles themselves, and to directly copy and paste the name citations. I thought this guide may interest you, so please feel try to check it out right [https://www.marioboards.com/threads/48110/ here on Mario Boards]. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 04:39, January 14, 2025 (EST)
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| :{{@|Nintendo101}} This is a cool and very exhaustive list! {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 07:12, January 17, 2025 (EST)
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| ::Thanks! I thought it would be helpful. Some users have already expressed interest in tackling on some of these subjects when they get the chance. If there are any revisions you'd recommend to it, please let me know. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 14:03, January 17, 2025 (EST)
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| ==Question about [[Wario's Warehouse]] and a new template==
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| Out of curiosity, given the fact we've preserved the actual articles for the Wario's Warehouse column themselves (as you probably recall, it was a whole ordeal to even confirm we ''did'' have everything, let alone that it was extant at all), what exactly qualifies this article for the <nowiki>{{lost}}</nowiki> template, aside from maybe just lacking the webpages as a whole? If anything, it strikes us as a bit of a ''found'' media story. (Gotta say, by the way, we're a bit surprised we didn't already have a Lost Media category; it's definitely a handy category to have!) {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 15:42, January 26, 2025 (EST)
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| :Fundamentally, what I meant the template to signal is that a given work can still be considered lost if it cannot be directly experienced and inspected, no matter how good the wiki's documentation of it is. Although Wario's Warehouse is indeed technically archived here on the wiki due to its text-based nature, there's currently no way to verify how accurate its documentation is to the source--there is apparently no archive of the web page(s) that hosted this column, not even something like a screen recording of someone scrolling through it. I'd argue that should still be pointed out through the template. Same with [[Nintendo Kids Club]] games, which are completely unplayable now, but had been documented when they were. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 16:35, January 26, 2025 (EST)
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| I saw [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Toy_Duck&curid=455110&diff=4774829&oldid=4505887 your edit]. I like when users cite videos uploaded by others in this community because it's like giving someone or oneself a pat on the back for providing resources supplementing the article, kind of like the <code>documented=</code> parameter of [[Template:Lost]] allowing others to show that this community worked to preserve materials before they became lost or inaccessible. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 19:24, March 8, 2025 (EST)
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| :Thanks! It isn't immediately clear that those objects in Mario Kart have some impact on gameplay, so I figured that the info I added would benefit from video proof. I do try to stay unassuming when I cite self-procured material, though, so it doesn't look like I'm promoting myself or something. That is the reason I delist these YouTube videos and disable their reactions. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:56, March 9, 2025 (EDT)
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