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:::But then what's even the point with the Golden Banana article saying it's debut is the show I haven't seen too many articles mention that their debut in a show before the games, can't remember specifically which one but that was long ago? It just seems rather confusing, unorganized and inconsistent to it's connections with the articles history and the fact that many people will say it's either coincidence or accurate as a reference it's too subjective and rather too speculative if you get my drift. Also that's like saying Rare made up the "Crystal" Coconut idea on their own and didn't use the show as inspiration, it's not a unique item either since it's just a coconut being a crystal instead, just like how the Banana is just gold. So if anything they are still a coincidence even if those elements are added later to the games. Everyone's opinion on what can be a reference or not can make have an editing war even some references are speculative still. I am not an admin but I feel like a better policy for those reference edits could be a bit ummm better. --[[User:Gamermakerguy|Gamermakerguy]] ([[User talk:Gamermakerguy|talk]]) 00:03, November 5, 2019 (EST) | :::But then what's even the point with the Golden Banana article saying it's debut is the show I haven't seen too many articles mention that their debut in a show before the games, can't remember specifically which one but that was long ago? It just seems rather confusing, unorganized and inconsistent to it's connections with the articles history and the fact that many people will say it's either coincidence or accurate as a reference it's too subjective and rather too speculative if you get my drift. Also that's like saying Rare made up the "Crystal" Coconut idea on their own and didn't use the show as inspiration, it's not a unique item either since it's just a coconut being a crystal instead, just like how the Banana is just gold. So if anything they are still a coincidence even if those elements are added later to the games. Everyone's opinion on what can be a reference or not can make have an editing war even some references are speculative still. I am not an admin but I feel like a better policy for those reference edits could be a bit ummm better. --[[User:Gamermakerguy|Gamermakerguy]] ([[User talk:Gamermakerguy|talk]]) 00:03, November 5, 2019 (EST) | ||
::::[[MarioWiki:References#References to other games and references in later games]]. If an intentional connection is clear (e.g. the ones with Bluster), it's a reference; if there's no proof of one, it doesn't get added. That's all; there's no subjectivity. I've removed the ''DK64'' one since there doesn't seem to be proof anywhere of those being "nods". {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 04:32, November 5, 2019 (EST) | ::::[[MarioWiki:References#References to other games and references in later games]]. If an intentional connection is clear (e.g. the ones with Bluster), it's a reference; if there's no proof of one, it doesn't get added. That's all; there's no subjectivity. I've removed the ''DK64'' one since there doesn't seem to be proof anywhere of those being "nods". {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 04:32, November 5, 2019 (EST) | ||
I don't think you're fully understanding what's considered a direct reference as you've been adding far too many "references" that are merely similarities to something in past games, mostly ones that aren't likely enough to be intentional. For example, in addition to what I said [[Special:Diff/4014784|here]], Fast Dash could have simply been fast speed without specifically referencing Toad, the only similarities Missile Megs share with the diagonal Bullet Bills and ''SMS'' Purple Bullet Bills are the direction of movement and colour/bared teeth respectively, and Yoshi getting knocked back and stunned is just a common knockback animation (and you added the same ''NSMB2'' Tanooki Mario reference for no reason again, even though musical changes have existed since ''SMW'' with Yoshi, a recurring element as I mentioned in the linked summary). All of these are just ordinary traits being twisted into what ''could'' be references just because previous games did them too. Please stop treating everything as a reference and bring them up on the talk page to get opinions on them first before claiming them as such on the article. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 09:03, October 20, 2023 (EDT) | I don't think you're fully understanding what's considered a direct reference as you've been adding far too many "references" that are merely similarities to something in past games, mostly ones that aren't likely enough to be intentional. For example, in addition to what I said [[Special:Diff/4014784|here]], Fast Dash could have simply been fast speed without specifically referencing Toad, the only similarities Missile Megs share with the diagonal Bullet Bills and ''SMS'' Purple Bullet Bills are the direction of movement and colour/bared teeth respectively, and Yoshi getting knocked back and stunned is just a common knockback animation (and you added the same ''NSMB2'' Tanooki Mario reference for no reason again, even though musical changes have existed since ''SMW'' with Yoshi, a recurring element as I mentioned in the linked summary). All of these are just ordinary traits being twisted into what ''could'' be references just because previous games did them too. Please stop treating everything as a reference and bring them up on the talk page to get opinions on them first before claiming them as such on the article. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 09:03, October 20, 2023 (EDT) | ||
