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==Welcome, and [[User:Trig Jegman#Terminology|FNC]]==
==Welcome, and [[User:Trig Jegman#Terminology|FNC]]==
Welcome to the Super Mario Wiki. Just to let you know, one of the images on [[User:Grandet Omate|your userpage]] titled '''ValiantComics-Toad.JPG''' has been moved to [[:File:ValiantComics-Toad.jpg]]. Simply change the capital JPG to jpg and press save changes to fix the image. Have fun! [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 16:07, July 17, 2019 (EDT)
Welcome to the Super Mario Wiki. Just to let you know, one of the images on [[User:Grandet Omate|your userpage]] titled '''ValiantComics-Toad.JPG''' has been moved to [[:File:ValiantComics-Toad.jpg]]. Simply change the capital JPG to jpg and press save changes to fix the image. Have fun! [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 16:07, July 17, 2019 (EDT)
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You're forgetting to categorise images again. If the subject itself (like the ''Once Upon a Koopa'' DVD) doesn't have a category, it should use the most closely associated image category (Category:The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Images). Final reminder, please remember this or you may receive another warning. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:01, June 22, 2020 (EDT)
You're forgetting to categorise images again. If the subject itself (like the ''Once Upon a Koopa'' DVD) doesn't have a category, it should use the most closely associated image category (Category:The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! Images). Final reminder, please remember this or you may receive another warning. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 08:01, June 22, 2020 (EDT)


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[[:File:BornToRideMain.jpg|You were just reminded about this.]] Don't upload without an image category.
[[:File:BornToRideMain.jpg|You were just reminded about this.]] Don't upload without an image category.


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==Profanity==
==Profanity==
While you may of seen my response, to prevent incidents like [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Mario_Sakuraba&diff=2740954&oldid=2693570 this] happening again, it is perfectly fine to swear in your edits, or anywhere else on the wiki, as long as it is not in heavy excess, or directed at other users. To quote [[MarioWiki:Courtesy]]: "''Swearing at other people is flaming and is unacceptable. The occasional use of profanity is allowed as long as it is not directed at another user, but it should generally be avoided. Similarly, if a user specifically requests that no profanity is used on their talk page, their wishes should be respected. You are free to use profanity in moderation in your own userspace, but if it is decided that you have overstepped the boundaries of good taste, you may be asked to tone it down.''". All three of those examples of Mario Sakuraba swearing were perfectly acceptable. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 17:10, August 19, 2019 (EDT)
While you may of seen my response, to prevent incidents like [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Mario_Sakuraba&diff=2740954&oldid=2693570 this] happening again, it is perfectly fine to swear in your edits, or anywhere else on the wiki, as long as it is not in heavy excess, or directed at other users. To quote [[MarioWiki:Courtesy]]: "''Swearing at other people is flaming and is unacceptable. The occasional use of profanity is allowed as long as it is not directed at another user, but it should generally be avoided. Similarly, if a user specifically requests that no profanity is used on their talk page, their wishes should be respected. You are free to use profanity in moderation in your own userspace, but if it is decided that you have overstepped the boundaries of good taste, you may be asked to tone it down.''". All three of those examples of ‎Mario Sakuraba swearing were perfectly acceptable. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 17:10, August 19, 2019 (EDT)


== [[Special:Diff/2767832|Snake jar]] ==
== [[Special:Diff/2767832|Snake jar]] ==
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::Hm, that's weird. Either way, I'd suggest avoiding removing .oga files from pages since you've had issues with both those and the Super Mario Compact Disco article. For future reference, if you find something broken on the wiki but it works fine for another user, then it's most likely an issue on your end rather than with the content itself and shouldn't be removed. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:48, September 22, 2020 (EDT)
::Hm, that's weird. Either way, I'd suggest avoiding removing .oga files from pages since you've had issues with both those and the Super Mario Compact Disco article. For future reference, if you find something broken on the wiki but it works fine for another user, then it's most likely an issue on your end rather than with the content itself and shouldn't be removed. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:48, September 22, 2020 (EDT)
:::By the way, did you read [[Wikipedia:Help:Media (audio and video)|this article?]] It might help you with your problem. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 18:32, September 25, 2020 (EDT)
:::By the way, did you read [[Wikipedia:Help:Media (audio and video)|this article?]] It might help you with your problem. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 18:32, September 25, 2020 (EDT)
::::I don't know this can help you, but I also had [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=File:Link_voice_sample_SSBB.oga&oldid=2996243 similar] [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=File:SSB4_Kirby_Hi.oga&oldid=2996822 problems]; apparently the "true" .oga (FLAC format) doesn't work in some browsers (Safari in my case). Only the one which uploaded with the Vorbis format (which would normally converted as an .ogg) that replaced the .ogg postfix with .oga loads correctly in my case. --{{color link|gold|User:Raffina Higashikata|Raffina Higashikata}} ([[User talk:Raffina Higashikata|talk]]) 02:44, October 9, 2020 (EDT)
::::I don't know this can help you, but I also had [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=File:Link_voice_sample_SSBB.oga&oldid=2996243 similar] [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=File:SSB4_Kirby_Hi.oga&oldid=2996822 problems]; apparently the "true" .oga (FLAC format) doesn't work in some browsers (Safari in my case). Only the one which uploaded with the Vorbis format (which would normally converted as an .ogg) that replaced the .ogg postfix with .oga loads correctly in my case. --{{color-link-piped|User:Raffina Higashikata|gold|Raffina Higashikata}} ([[User talk:Raffina Higashikata|talk]]) 02:44, October 9, 2020 (EDT)


== Piranhas and fire ==
== Piranhas and fire ==
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== Hebrew translations ==
== Hebrew translations ==


I'm just curious, where did you get the Hebrew names for Olivia, King Olly and ''Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros.''? {{color link|gold|User:Raffina Higashikata|Raffina Higashikata}} ([[User talk:Raffina Higashikata|talk]]) 04:01, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
I'm just curious, where did you get the Hebrew names for Olivia, King Olly and ''Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros.''? {{color-link-piped|User:Raffina Higashikata|gold|Raffina Higashikata}} ([[User talk:Raffina Higashikata|talk]]) 04:01, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
https://www.nintendo.co.il
https://www.nintendo.co.il
[[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] ([[User talk:Grandet Omate|talk]]) 04:12, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
[[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] ([[User talk:Grandet Omate|talk]]) 04:12, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
:Thank you. I didn't even know they're selling Switch in Israel! After some research, it seems Israel was [https://nintendosoup.com/nintendo-is-opening-in-israel-soon/ very recent addition to Nintendo's marketing], which is probably why I was never heard of it. --{{color link|gold|User:Raffina Higashikata|Raffina Higashikata}} ([[User talk:Raffina Higashikata|talk]]) 04:27, October 8, 2020 (EDT)
:Thank you. I didn't even know they're selling Switch in Israel! After some research, it seems Israel was [https://nintendosoup.com/nintendo-is-opening-in-israel-soon/ very recent addition to Nintendo's marketing], which is probably why I was never heard of it. --{{color-link-piped|User:Raffina Higashikata|gold|Raffina Higashikata}} ([[User talk:Raffina Higashikata|talk]]) 04:27, October 8, 2020 (EDT)


== Page moves ==
== Page moves ==
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I know everyone on here hates me, people silence me for something I think is right and don’t understand what is hard for me... s When people are rude to me, everybody says I am and everyone else is innocent... I know nobody will see this because nobody cares about me on here... [[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] 1:15PM, January 12, 2021 (EDT)
I know everyone on here hates me, people silence me for something I think is right and don’t understand what is hard for me... s When people are rude to me, everybody says I am and everyone else is innocent... I know nobody will see this because nobody cares about me on here... [[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] 1:15PM, January 12, 2021 (EDT)
:Quit self-pitying over this. Whether you have difficulty talking to others or not, that doesn't excuse the fact that edit-warring without even trying to discuss with others first is a [[MarioWiki:Warning policy#Level two offenses|level two offense]]. Sometimes when you go to discuss with people, they may be offline for quite a while, so you just need to give them time, even if it will take hours or even over a day. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
:Quit self-pitying over this. Whether you have difficulty talking to others or not, that doesn't excuse the fact that edit-warring without even trying to discuss with others first is a [[MarioWiki:Warning policy#Level two offenses|level two offense]]. Sometimes when you go to discuss with people, they may be offline for quite a while, so you just need to give them time, even if it will take hours or even over a day. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
== The end of me... ==
I don’t know how to say this but I know people would be happy if i didn’t exist on fl here anymore. Nobody gets me not even my supposed friends in real life. I will be going away forever in real as well everyone will be happy without me even my friends. You cannot stop me it is to late. Bye, forever...
[[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] 14:53, January 13, 2021 (EDT)
== Regarding your editing experience ==
Hello, and welcome back! I just saw your message directly above and, since it’s quite ominous, I’m curious how you’ve been holding out these past few months.
I know that editing can become a frustrating endeavour when you feel you can’t quite get the grasp of it despite being one of the few things that bring you joy. I hope that you are able to start fresh and listen to what people here tell you. Remember, when in doubt, talk to others! Ask for advice or opinions! All it takes is a question as simple as “Is this okay?” or a variation thereof; you don’t need to start or engage in complex discussion if you’re not socially comfortable. I wish you success. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 08:42, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
== Some thoughts on your recent activities ==
I believe AwdryFan1997 had told you about this, but relying on outside sources from DiC Entertainment, such as relying on Apple TV closed captions, is not recommended. It would seem as if you are relying on companies that have little to no involvement in the creation of the Mario cartoons, and as of result including information that doesn't really make all that much sense. This include your recent edits with the Apple TV closed captions, because as Alex95 said it varies from companies to companies, in addition to the fact that they're just captions made for accessibility and not meant to replace the actual script.
I understand your commitment to assure that those Mario cartoon-related pages are up-to-date with recent sources, but you should stick with the source material and sources from DiC Entertainment themselves, rather than companies like Apple TV or WildBrain (who own the cartoons as of now) who have no involvement with the original cartoons whatsoever. Thank you, and happy editing! {{User:PanchamBro/sig}} 13:53, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
:Also regarding Rat-A-Gator: https://twitter.com/TheUltiMarioFan/status/1346865703882813448 {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:00, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
:WildBrain [[Talk:Winterland#"Mushroom Woods"|has been suspected]] of lifting conjectural names from this wiki and using them in their synopses for Mario cartoon episodes. If we use them as a source, we risk essentially reporting our own fan-made constructs, which is not allowed. The practice that WildBrain employed here would be similar to what the English translation of the [[Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia]] did, on grounds of which we have ruled it out entirely as a valid source for enemy and character names through a [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/52#Citing the Super Mario Encyclopedia|proposal]]. Since WildBrain do indeed hold a chunk of rights for the DIC Mario cartoons, we would normally greenlight information that comes from them, but given our current suspicions it's best if we run a discussion or a proposal about it first. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 15:08, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
::I get being cautious about using the descriptions, but the closed captions 100% original as you cannot find the same spelling as "all-purpose, portable plumber's helper" anywhere else. [[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] ([[User talk:Grandet Omate|talk]]) 15:36, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
:::It doesn't matter if they are "100% original", if it's from a source which isn't being accepted, we shouldn't use it. That's a bit like saying "some of the conjectural names on this wiki are original therefore they should be used as proper names all around the internet". {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 15:46, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
::::This is an official source, though. It should be accepted. This wiki is not. [[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] ([[User talk:Grandet Omate|talk]]) 15:54, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
:::::I know this wiki is not official, but from what I have read in this discussion and on Alex95's talk page, the closed captions don't seem to have proper affiliation with the makers of the cartoon, which doesn't make them official either. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 16:20, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
They are from the official owners of the cartoon, who bought DiC and have their assets. They are official since they own them. [[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] ([[User talk:Grandet Omate|talk]]) 16:38, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
:They’re the official owners, yes, nobody is arguing that. What everyone is trying to tell you is that the information they offer relies heavily on fan-written content from Super Mario Wiki. Because of this, said information is unacceptable to quote here since that would be cytogenesis—the act of citing or reporting something from someone who took that information from you. This is not hard to grasp. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:06, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
::They are not relying on fan written content in the closed captions. It is not hard to understand. [[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] ([[User talk:Grandet Omate|talk]]) 17:08, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
:::Is there any proof of that? {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 17:16, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
:::Also I sincerely doubt whatever intern they had write those was using any sort of official documentation. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:18, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
:::Well, not ''all'' of the information they put up is unoriginal, but the fact that ''some'' information is already makes WildBrain and what have you an unreliable, unprofessional source to cite, as Glowsquid told you. The Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia also has some original concepts, but it mostly copied from us, and is currently excluded completely as a valid source as a result of general consensus. I don’t see why we should treat WildBrain any differently. {{User|Koopa con Carne}} 17:18, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
::::I do believe this argument has gone nowhere, and I think a suitable solution is to create a proposal, which would be a good way to settle this. {{User:PanchamBro/sig}} 17:19, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
:::::I think we should just accept closed captions since they were created in early 2014, before the YouTube videos were (mid 2014), where they stole the information. [[User:Grandet Omate|Grandet Omate]] ([[User talk:Grandet Omate|talk]]) 17:21, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
::::::Start a proposal then. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 17:22, April 13, 2021 (EDT)
== You ok? ==
I've just read your user page. Please, don't do anything bad to yourself. Nobody here hates you. If you see this message, let us know you're there. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 04:33, May 13, 2021 (EDT)

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