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| No we don't really know each other because I am from Australia and he's from America and a few more reasons. [[User:Fawful's Minion|Fawful's]] [[User talk:Fawful's Minion|Minion]] 12:40, 20 April 2016 (EDT) | | No we don't really know each other because I am from Australia and he's from America and a few more reasons. [[User:Fawful's Minion|Fawful's]] [[User talk:Fawful's Minion|Minion]] [[File:Fawful's Minion-Logan.jpeg|35px]] 12:40, 20 April 2016 (EDT) |
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| ::Hi Henery Tucayo Clay. I was unsure if Mario wiki followed most wiki conventions, removal of talk messages is generally "in bad form" or so I was told. I'm from Zelda Wiki, in the past I thought that it was okay to move around talk messages as one would a facebook wall. I removed talk messages from my own profile just to tidy it up, and that and almost got in trouble http://zeldawiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Editorguy117&action=history. According to Tony from that wiki, It's generally against wiki rules. Now Zelda Wiki is a different site, so seeing as talk messages can be removed here, it's clear the policies are different and I was mistaken. So going from being allowed to remove talk messages, to not being allowed to remove talk messages, to being allowed to move talk messages is a bit jarring for me. I understand the policy for Mario Wiki now however, sorry for that error.[[User:Editorguy117|Editorguy117]] ([[User talk:Editorguy117|talk]]) 16:22, 11 August 2016 (EDT) | | ::Hi Henery Tucayo Clay. I was unsure if Mario wiki followed most wiki conventions, removal of talk messages is generally "in bad form" or so I was told. I'm from Zelda Wiki, in the past I thought that it was okay to move around talk messages as one would a facebook wall. I removed talk messages from my own profile just to tidy it up, and that and almost got in trouble http://zeldawiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Editorguy117&action=history. According to Tony from that wiki, It's generally against wiki rules. Now Zelda Wiki is a different site, so seeing as talk messages can be removed here, it's clear the policies are different and I was mistaken. So going from being allowed to remove talk messages, to not being allowed to remove talk messages, to being allowed to move talk messages is a bit jarring for me. I understand the policy for Mario Wiki now however, sorry for that error.[[User:Editorguy117|Editorguy117]] ([[User talk:Editorguy117|talk]]) 16:22, 11 August 2016 (EDT) |
| :::Talk messages '''cannot''' be removed neither here nor in ZeldaWiki. What I did was to remove an insulting message on the talk page of a bureaucrat. --{{User:Henry Tucayo Clay/sig}} 19:35, 11 August 2016 (EDT) | | :::Talk messages '''cannot''' be removed neither here nor in ZeldaWiki. What I did was to remove an insulting message on the talk page of a bureaucrat. --{{User:Henry Tucayo Clay/sig}} 19:35, 11 August 2016 (EDT) |
| ::::Alright I understand now, and apologize. I hope you can understand my confusion. I now see that in certain exceptions (such as flaming) talk messages can be removed.[[User:Editorguy117|Editorguy117]] ([[User talk:Editorguy117|talk]]) 14:29, 13 August 2016 (EDT) | | ::::Alright I understand now, and apologize. I hope you can understand my confusion. I now see that in certain cases talk messages can be removed.[[User:Editorguy117|Editorguy117]] ([[User talk:Editorguy117|talk]]) 14:29, 13 August 2016 (EDT) |
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| {{warning|2=telling an admin what to do despite just being told not to do so}} | | {{warning|2=telling an admin what to do despite just being told not to do so}} |
| You know what? I hadn't seen your little reply to YoshiKong, another Administrator of the site. --{{User:Henry Tucayo Clay/sig}} 19:38, 11 August 2016 (EDT) | | You know what? I hadn't seen your little reply to YoshiKong, another Administrator of the site. --{{User:Henry Tucayo Clay/sig}} 19:38, 11 August 2016 (EDT) |
| :I get you are both mad at me, and I'm sorry if offended both of you. I feel (I'm just expressing my opinion here, I hope that isn't against the rules) there's a bit of bias going on in this warning issued on me. I was not telling an admin what to do by saying ''"I think Henry Tucayo Clay can speak for himself. If he felt it was an issue he can let me know on his own"''. I have done no further actions regarding that mentioned incident since, all I have done since that incident is talk. I'd hope that talking isn't against the rules either. I'm not telling an admin what to do, I am listening to you guys and have obeyed both of you since the incident. I apologized, and will not undo an edit from you guys again. But me saying ''"I think Henry Tucayo Clay can speak for himself. If he felt it was an issue he can let me know on his own"'' is just an opinion, bending it to appear like it's breaking a rule seems like there was bias behind it. I'm just expressing my opinion as a person to another person.
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| :Furthermore, I was unaware that YoshiKong was an administrator, and seeing that I can understand why he left that message on my wall. At first I thought he was a standard user who was budding into a conflict that didn't involve him, as such I got defensive and wanted to state my opinion. But knowing that he's an administrator, I can see why he left the message, as it's his job as admin to be involved in all conflicts. So with this, I realise that his comment was fair. Believe it or not, we see eye to eye on this conflict now that I understand. The only thing that concerns me right now, is whether opinions are allowed to be spoken or not on Mario Wiki. As I'm afraid that even opinions such as ''"I think Henry Tucayo Clay can speak for himself. If he felt it was an issue he can let me know on his own"'' can result in bans. Or any dissenting opinion for that matter can be bent to mismatch a rule. I truly hope that is not the case.
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| :I'm not trying to defy your authority. I would just like clarify if this policy still stands: [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Administrators|"In general, sysops are not imbued with any special authority and are equal to everyone else in terms of editorial responsibility. Staff members' votes and opinions are given equal weight to regular users in proposals, FA nominations, or any other democratic process or informal discussion."] This would mean that opinions (as long as not explicitly offensive), are fair game correct? In this case my response to YoshiKong would fall under an opinion in informal discussion. Would bending an opinion into a rule breach (interpreting ''"I think Henry Tucayo Clay can speak for himself. If he felt it was an issue he can let me know on his own"'' as ''"telling an admin what to do despite just being told not to do so"'') go against that policy? I'm concerned about what I'm allowed to say and not allowed to say on Mario Wiki after seeing this.
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| :Once again, no ill wishes. I hope we can get along as we edit together in the future. Thanks for taking the time to read my message, please let me know when you get the chance. [[User:Editorguy117|Editorguy117]] ([[User talk:Editorguy117|talk]]) 15:13, 13 August 2016 (EDT)
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| ::Your comment was undermining admin authority, and not knowing he's an admin doesn't exempt you from anything. You can drop your whole "opinions are not allowed" act as your comment was plainly telling YoshiKong to stay out of it. Stop this discussion, move on, and we'll get along just fine. --{{User:Henry Tucayo Clay/sig}} 21:54, 15 August 2016 (EDT)
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| :::I'd appreciate if you didn't accuse of me of an act, as wikis are supposed to follow the fundamental [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Community_Central:Assume_good_faith Assume Good Faith]. I'm not exempt for not knowing he was an Administrator fair enough, it's my responsibility to research wich users are and are not administrators. As a person to another person, I just strongly hope you can understand my point of view. Thanks. [[User:Editorguy117|Editorguy117]] ([[User talk:Editorguy117|talk]]) 23:33, 15 August 2016 (EDT)
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| ::::You've made your case and I've told you why it didn't hold. Also, that's a page from Wikia. [[MarioWiki:Don't shoot your foot off|Here's a better one of our own]]. I'd now suggest you go make more mainspace edits as [[Special:Editcount/Editorguy117|the vast majority of your edits]] are focused on userspace, which is actually a [[MarioWiki:Warning_policy#Level_one_offenses|Level One offense]]. Thanks, and keep contributing :) --{{User:Henry Tucayo Clay/sig}} 23:51, 15 August 2016 (EDT)
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| For [[:File:LarryMarioIsMissing.jpeg]], there was already uploaded better versions [[:File:MIMMSDOSLarryKoopaSprite.png]] and [[:File:MiM Larry Floor.png]]. Look in galleries or categories first. To find a gallery page, search for <kbd>Gallery:</kbd> and then type in the character or game you are in search of. Same works for <kbd>Category:</kbd>. Here (these are incomplete text searches to the real category and gallery pages):
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| Sorry about that, I'm trying ;-; [[User:Editorguy117|Editorguy117]] ([[User talk:Editorguy117|talk]]) 18:22, 16 August 2016 (EDT)
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