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| :::Those compression artifacts are part of what the Wii U ''is'', though. Using assets that, in their rawest form, are ''exclusive'' to the George Lucas'd version, is -improper documentation- which is not what we are about. The entire point of uploading sprites is to be as accurate as possible to the source, not to pick and choose favorites. (Also, the argument ''does'' work for TTYD vs ''SPM'', as those ''do'' have comparable resolutions but different artifacts.) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:50, July 3, 2024 (EDT) | | :::Those compression artifacts are part of what the Wii U ''is'', though. Using assets that, in their rawest form, are ''exclusive'' to the George Lucas'd version, is -improper documentation- which is not what we are about. The entire point of uploading sprites is to be as accurate as possible to the source, not to pick and choose favorites. (Also, the argument ''does'' work for TTYD vs ''SPM'', as those ''do'' have comparable resolutions but different artifacts.) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:50, July 3, 2024 (EDT) |
| ::::This isn't comparable to assets from other ports and remakes (TTYD's assets for example are higher resolution and actually look noticably different and I will argue to keep them here, unlike the worse quality 8 thumbnails). We upload thumbnails from these games to illustrate game assets, yes, but this wiki isn't an asset farm and it shouldn't be treated as such, and I think it's pointless to upload identical images just to illustrate, yes one of them came from weaker hardware. I used my judgement to not upload as separate because it's literally the same image, but one of them has clear hardware limitations and is a much worse picture than the other one. This is also the same reason we axed those shitty fmv thumbnails from Mario Party games in favor of screenshots. I don't think we'd be doing our readers a disservice because they see a clearly superior illustrative image from the remake (mind you, not even noticable unless you actively do side-by-side comparisons by making layers or gifs). {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 00:56, July 3, 2024 (EDT) | | ::::This isn't comparable to assets from other ports and remakes (TTYD's assets for example are higher resolution and actually look noticably different and I will argue to keep them here, unlike the worse quality 8 thumbnails). We upload thumbnails from these games to illustrate game assets, yes, but this wiki isn't an asset farm and it shouldn't be treated as such, and I think it's pointless to upload identical images just to illustrate, yes one of them came from weaker hardware. I used my judgement to not upload as separate because it's literally the same image, but one of them has clear hardware limitations and is a much worse picture than the other one. This is also the same reason we axed those shitty fmv thumbnails from Mario Party games in favor of screenshots. I don't think we'd be doing our readers a disservice because they see a clearly superior illustrative image from the remake (mind you, not even noticable unless you actively do side-by-side comparisons by making layers or gifs). {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 00:56, July 3, 2024 (EDT) |
| :::::I think it matters regardless of whether they can be easily eyeballed or not (and at their native res, they honestly ''can'', as I noticed several times today), especially since some actually are shared between characters while others aren't, which itself is an interesting tidbit. I'm just focused on accuracy and objectivism with the subject at hand, and having both available hurts absolutely nothing. (I also want to point out the outright reuse of sprites across games such as the 3DS M&L games, take a look at the [[Big Tail Goomba]] page and its outright identical images.) ''Either way'', I'll upload the ''DX'' ones separately myself at a later point, I kinda already spent the entire day working to get it U-oriented so I don't have time to do so now. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:01, July 3, 2024 (EDT) | | :::::I think it matters regardless of whether they can be easily eyeballed or not (and at their native res, they honestly ''can'', as I noticed several times today), especially since some actually are shared between characters while others aren't, which itself is an interesting tidbit. I'm just focused on accuracy and objectivism with the subject at hand. ''Either way'', I'll upload the ''DX'' ones separately myself at a later point, I kinda already spent the entire day working to get it U-oriented so I don't have time to do so now. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:01, July 3, 2024 (EDT) |
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| == Retro course tables ==
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| Howdy! The only course table on the ''Mario Kart Wii'' article that comfortably scales to my phone are the battle stages. The Retro courses do not fit perfectly, and they slide a bit when I try to scroll through them. They also look awkward on desktop. The banner for individual cups scales the width of the whole page, while the columns for individual courses are a little over half that and slide all the way to the left.
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| I still recommend scrutinizing some of the information in these tables, the number of images used, and their scale. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 15:43, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Moving White Background? ==
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| Hello again. I noticed a problem with the files: File:Golf GB Girl bg left.gif , File:Golf GBC Girl bg left.gif , File:Golf GB Girl bg right.gif , and File:Golf GBC Girl bg right.gif where there seems to be a white background that jumps with the sprite. Is that intentional? If not, can you fix it? Two other things with those girl sprites, I don't think we need sprites that are just flipped and a few of them are duplicates. [[User:Cheese Head|Cheese Head]] ([[User talk:Cheese Head|talk]]) 17:41, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
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| :They're the background layer, so that is indeed intentional (GB doesn't have transparent background), and they are stored as different graphics in the data (unlike how left-right sprites usually are), as well as different from the transparent sprite layer ones. That is why they are all included, because the game treats them as different. Trust me, I know what I'm doing. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:47, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
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| Well, the thing is that I don't think they're useful at all then. A game might consider two identical sprites as different, but it's more convenient to just use one. [[User:Cheese Head|Cheese Head]] ([[User talk:Cheese Head|talk]]) 20:56, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
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| :I wanted to rip and upload every animation from the game, so I did. None of them are more important than any of the others, so they all get equal coverage. I don't really care whether a single random other person disagrees with that, it's already been uploaded and it's not hurting anything. Anyways, all their colored counterparts are there too. (Also, for the background ones, the GB literally ''cannot'' flip background layer tiles, so any that do appear flipped are by default separate graphics). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:26, July 4, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Sentence structure for "generic" subjects ==
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| Hey, I know this is a topic you take interest in, so I wanted to direct you to [[MarioWiki talk:Generic subjects#"X appears in Z as a Y" is awkward sentence structure, and I do not understand why we are integrating it|this discussion]] I started. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 21:40, July 7, 2024 (EDT)
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| == YOOOOOOO ==
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| Hey. Long time. So I just had another one of my random thoughts. Do you think the [[Three Shadows]] are based on the witches from the 1993 Disney film Hocus Pocus? It follows the trend in the console RPG games to have an evil group based on characters from popular media (the [[Axem Rangers]] being a reference to the Power Rangers, and the [[Koopa Bros.]] being a reference to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) and if you stretch it enough, the [[Underchomp]] technically continue the trend as a reference to Cerberus. The way the Shadows interact with each other kinda sorta resembles the interactions between the Sanderson sisters in Hocus Pocus (also, the fact that they're all siblings with powers). All three are said to have gotten their powers from the devil, while the Shadows appear to come from the underworld. Is it possible? [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 22:18, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Additionally, they appear to have the same dynamics; the oldest is also the most powerful, the youngest is the most dim-witted and gets picked on but is the most beautiful, and the middle sister can detect children/Mario. Oh, and they meet the protaganists in a forest. I think. [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 22:22, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::I'd say both are probably based off the Fates of classical mythology and/or the Weird Sisters from ''Macbeth'' crossed with the Hecate Sisters archetype (itself arguably drawing from the former two). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:20, July 10, 2024 (EDT)
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| ==Hello again, fellow Diddy Kong Racing enthusiast==
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| Unless I'm mistaken, you're the one who's made considerable improvements to Diddy Kong Racing's page as of late. I'm sure you'll be happy to hear that both the big and small sprites for the silver "Disco Balloons" are now on the page! Anyway, I noticed your recent changes to the Characters section. Funnily enough, it was only yesterday that I considered the possibility of Wizpig having a character listing in addition to his boss listing, so it was a surprise to see it done so soon afterwards! I hope you don't mind, but I changed the Wizpig image for this character listing, since it was already in use in the boss listing, where it matches the 'Wizpig on his rocket' image. My replacement is an oddly pink render, but I can confirm its use in official material alongside the others. [[User:Stone Pokey]] ([[User talk: Stone Pokey|talk]]) 10:30, July 11, 2024 (GMT)
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| :OK, I was considering having them be different myself, but I was ultra-exhausted last night and transcribing the manual bios took my remaining energy. I've been working on improving the sports/racing game coverage since a lot of them are oddly lacking, namely making the tables work better on different screen sizes, and if I'm not mistaken DKR was the start of that project. I'm going back now and fixing some mistakes I made on my first attempt, namely making sure it looks good on small screens as well. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 10:33, July 11, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Re:Mass uploads ==
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| There's an option to upload multiple files in a single batch on the upload file page. - [[User:RHG1951|RHG1951]] ([[User talk:RHG1951|talk]]) 10:02, July 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| :It's an option in preferences under gadgets. - [[User:RHG1951|RHG1951]] ([[User talk:RHG1951|talk]]) 22:34, July 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Goldbob's pass/manual ==
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| Something I noticed recently I thought you would be interested. In the original TTYD, this item is called "Goldbob Guide" and the description says it's a manual for the cannon. However, it's name in other languages including Japanese is "Usage Permit", which even carries over to the English localisation of the remake calling it a "written permission" instead of a manual in the description. Would you say this was a part of the original game's inconsistant localisation? {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 21:25, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Very interesting! Seems like it to me. Seems odd they wouldn't fix the title when relocalizing, but the fix job itself was rather slapdash. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:02, July 28, 2024 (EDT)
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| == [[Speedy Spirit]]s during blackout ==
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| Originally I’d believe that you would get a second chance for any speedy spirits you didn't uncover before the blackout but [https://www.reddit.com/r/LuigisMansion/comments/w9ds6o/what%20to%20do%20after%20power%20goes%20out%20in%20luigis%20mansion/ some people on reddit] say otherwise {{User:Remembered Old Buddy/sig}} 19:32, July 29, 2024 (EDT)
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| == HI ==
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| So uh... I've been having my crazy ideas again. Not gonna add these to any trivia sections, but I wanted to know your thoughts. Do you know why the colors red and yellow would be used for the [[metal block]]s in Paper Mario and TTYD? It makes me think of Iron Man, but I'm unsure if these colors are simply associated with metal or if it was simply chosen to match the Ultra Hammer, which would still beg the question of why red and yellow represent the most powerful hammer. While on the topic of Marvel coincidences... "hyper" enemies (Hyper Goomba, Hyper Cleft, etc.), who can raise their attack power to insane levels, are colored green and purple... just like the Hulk, who is known to be able to raise his power to insane levels. If not a Hulk reference, why are purple and green the colors chosen for these enemies? I can sort of recall a connection between the combination of green and purple and radioactivity (which resulted in the Hulk; maybe "hyper" enemies were exposed to radiation?) or poisonous plants. What do you think? [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 18:32, August 4, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Uhhhhh I donno XD. For the former, probably just so it's distinct from the others. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:38, August 4, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::That makes sense lol. Still fun to think about. By the way, how are you? [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 21:25, August 4, 2024 (EDT)
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| :::Doing fine, working on [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects/Fun with tables|tables]]. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:34, August 4, 2024 (EDT)
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| ==Koopa Shell implementation==
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| The moment the thank system went live, I've decided to thank you for the implementation of that talk page proposal as my first ever thanks, even if you did it a long time ago. Should have done it earlier but I'm still very grateful for that implementation to this day. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 16:24, August 26, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Wahey, you're welcome XD. And thank you too for the consideration. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:28, August 26, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Re: Mario is Missing! quotes ==
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| I checked again and the newspaper actually says "he was too stunned to pun". {{User:Derekblue1/sig}} 00:53, September 2, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Usually, I check my work before publishing but I am surprised I missed this out. {{User:Derekblue1/sig}} 00:54, September 2, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Zelda ==
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| Hey, Doc. I'm sure you noticed,tbut I have been drafting a "crossover article" concept using ''The Legend of Zelda'' as a base, highlighting where it intersects with ''Super Mario''. I think it has the potential to be a more serviceable consolidation of information otherwise scattered across the wiki. It's still in an early stage, but I wanted to know what you think. It can be found [[User:Nintendo101/community garden|here]]. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 11:25, September 2, 2024 (EDT)
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| == On your upcoming Smash proposal ==
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| Are you sure merging Break the Targets and Board the Platforms is a good idea? These minigames contain ''Mario'' stages, something that should be covered separately. Also, a [https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Trophy_Tussle recent proposal] removed Trophy Tussle for only having one fight on a Goomba throphy. Even though it's small, it is a Mario stage after all. What do you think? [[User:Axii|Axii]] ([[User talk:Axii|talk]]) 00:50, September 11, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Unless we make individual articles for things like "Break the Targets (Mario, Super Smash Bros.)," I don't see it turning out any different from the Trophy Tussle thing. Granted, we could do that at some point, but it might be a bit much. For what it's worth, I am not wanting anything outright deleted, just turned into a redirect at most, so the history will still be there. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:44, September 11, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Proposal backlogs ==
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| Hi, Doc. You raised two new proposals today, which is fine, but I wanted to take this opportunity to remind you that you have 10 passed proposals that are waiting to be implemented (including every unimplemented talk page proposal), with some having passed multiple years ago. Other users have noticed and raised this issue with staff.
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| I would appreciate it if you started working on implementing your past proposals. Proposal rules do specify that passed proposals should be enacted "in a timely manner" and while no time limit is specified, surely two years without any movement is well beyond that. I understand some of your past proposals impact a decent amount of articles, or entail ''creating'' a decent amount of articles, and they would be time-consuming to implement by yourself, but some of them are quite small (like the Crocodile Isle one) and manageable by yourself. You also have the tools necessary to ask for help on the big ones if you want it, via talk pages like this one and Mario Boards. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 23:41, September 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Hi, generally speaking I prefer to give myself a sort of buffer of busywork, so that's why I do it in that way (if I don't have one, I tend to get a little.... erratic. Moreso than normal, I mean). Anyways, I am busy with other things at the moment (both in real life and the fact that I've been working on this MKT characters table for consecutive ''weeks'' since the "sports" thing is my most current project, as it has been for the past 15 months or so), so that's part of why it takes so long. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:57, September 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::I could understand that you like having projects on the back burner to go to, but I do not think you need 10 of them, and while you may have things going on in real life, you are active here enough for me to know you have not been so busy over the last three years (with your oldest proposal being September 12, 2021) that you could not work on implementing these. If you have the time to work on MKT character and sports tables, you have the time to merge the Crocodile Isle articles or split Bowser's Flame from Fire Breath. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 00:21, September 26, 2024 (EDT)
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| :::Well those ones -just- passed, I'll get to them soon. Tomorrow I have a big event. (Regarding the Gear thing, the MLSS table unfortunately doesn't list ''when'' things are added to the BeanBean Castle Town Shop, which makes that a bit more difficult.) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:06, September 26, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::::I'm glad to hear you will work on those proposals soon, and I hope the event you have today goes well.
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| ::::For the gear in ''Superstar Saga'', someone has uploaded a pdf to the Internet Archives that shows the availability of individual gear on [https://archive.org/details/marioluigisuperstarsagaofficialplayersguide_201912/page/n125/mode/2up pages 124 and 125]. I imagine that would be helpful. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 13:18, September 26, 2024 (EDT)
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| :::::I will love you forever. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:05, September 26, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Proper separation for Gallery ==
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| The proposal was canceled because nobody agreed to generational separation. I want to find a proper way to separate them. Most of the proposals I made have failed. What method of split do you think would be appropriate? Mario is still a long sized even when separated by each decade. Other characters can be merged from the first decade with the next decade without any size issues. Later, when Mario turns 50, some galleries may be separate the first a quarter-century. The proposal has been canceled and hope that you can find a proper division method. [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]]) 15:18, October 8, 2024 (EDT)
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| :I'm not sure, to be honest. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:56, October 8, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::Before making this proposal, I was worried that it would be an opposition bomb. [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]]) 16:59, October 8, 2024 (EDT)
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| ==Tryforce==
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| I'm a little behind on modern ''Zelda'' (I still haven't gotten around to playing through any of the post-''BotW'' games) but I'll try. Embarrassingly, though, it seems I've forgotten my password and don't recall if I've set up an email. What do? If I were to make a new account, can you merge 'em? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:02, October 13, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Uhh I'd have to ask Porple how that works XD. (Also, kinda in the same boat, so many of those "ultra-big" Switch games have been such slow going I haven't touched TotK yet and I haven't bought EoW yet). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 12:59, October 13, 2024 (EDT)
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| ==Mario Sports Mix audience images==
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| Done, two sprites were missing. [https://www.spriters-resource.com/wii/mariosportsmix/sheet/201491/] [[User:blueberrymuffin|blueberrymuffin]] ([[User talk:blueberrymuffin|talk]]) 15:55, October 14, 2024 (-03 UTC)
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| Toad can be found in Daisy Garden in [[Dodgeball]] or [[Feed Petey]] modes. [[User:blueberrymuffin|blueberrymuffin]] ([[User talk:blueberrymuffin|talk]]) 20:20, October 14, 2024 (-03 UTC)
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| == Re:Pokemon Smash images ==
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| The Pokemon images should all be undeleted now. - [[User:RHG1951|RHG1951]] ([[User talk:RHG1951|talk]]) 18:18, October 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| :[[:File:Smash Skiff.png]] is now undeleted too. - [[User:RHG1951|RHG1951]] ([[User talk:RHG1951|talk]]) 22:47, October 25, 2024 (EDT)
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| == Re: Blueberrymuffin's rips ==
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| Hello! I appreciate your inquiry, and am aware that others do prefer "accurate" sprite rips complete with empty dimensions. However, consider the following: this is not enforced by the wiki and the way a sprite looks is entirely up to the digression of the individual uploader. I say as long as it doesn't conflict with the way any existing templates or articles look, it doesn't need to be 100% uniform in dimension. It looks better this way, to me personally. You are also tarnishing the "accuracy" of these sprites by uploading it to a wiki to begin with because you have to file other file guidelines such as naming.--{{User:UltraMario/sig}}
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| :I don't really wish to speak on anything else, but I will say this: my uploads were ''supposed'' to have comments, but did not due to a bug with batch upload not supporting that for new files. Anyway, I understand what you are saying, but still think it is unnecessary, as it can easily be accommodated on both the gallery and table front without any unnecessary tampering of files, period. I don't believe it is needed at all for those Mii costumes. I checked myself, they don't look wrong at all on the table on the article.--{{User:UltraMario/sig}}
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| I agree with you, sprites should be preserved so as not to lose quality when placing them in the gallery or table. And this is not just a matter of aesthetics, the actual use of the command [widths="120" heights="120"] depends on standardization. [[User:blueberrymuffin|blueberrymuffin]] ([[User talk:blueberrymuffin|talk]]) 21:03, October 28, 2024 (-03 UTC)
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| == Re:Artwork game-by-game comparison ==
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| Hrm, I think the angle of the arm is different, yeah. The lighting on her face also seems slightly brighter on one of them.--{{User:UltraMario/sig}}
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