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== Re:SMBE JP SML2 ==

Yes, Furiko is mentioned as a smaller version of Furizō and the Mario Zone bosses are only known individually in the Japanese version (not "Three Little Pigheads" or any other group name) on page 76. They were also in the older encyclopedia, I've added that reference. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:53, 5 November 2018 (EST)

== Re:Raphael ==

The situation is not exactly the same as [[Big Lantern Ghost]], as both that one from Paper Mario and from Yoshi's New Island have different Japanese names. The one from Paper Mario's size is roughly the same as the [[Tetu Kantera|the metallic one]] and has a bandage on his forehead, while the one from Yoshi's New Island is bigger and lacks the bandage. And the Lantern isn't exactly the same, so this is why i putted the split template on Big Lantern Ghost. The Big Lantern Ghost from Paper Mario's Japanese name is Big Kantera-kun, while the Yoshi's New Island one is Mega Kantera. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:39, 6 November 2018 (EST)
::If it gets merged, should "Big Kyutyan" be at least a redirect, since it's Raphael's Japanese name is romanized as Big Kyutyan, and usually, when an english name is found, there's still a redirect to the Japanese name. Take exemple on [[Slip Slidin' Away (Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3)]]. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:03, 9 November 2018 (EST)

== Re:Raven ==

I guess so, in lieu of anything better. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:21, 6 November 2018 (EST)


==re:Obvious terrible photoshop==

I'm getting of the obvious ''really shitty'' ones first. I'm a bit more hesitant on the recolours since I vaguely remember finding something that indicates the obvious edit that is the [[Kreepy Krow]] render is actually legit, but if that guy isn't able to prove those images aren't fan edits (which DKVine's galleries are full of), I'll just delete them tomorrow. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 21:06, 6 November 2018 (EST)

== "Only" in Sentences ==

I've learned that putting "only" in different places in a sentence can alter the meaning of it. For example, "The bucket can only hold three gallons of water," means that the bucket holds three gallons of water but does not empty it, whereas "The bucket can hold only three gallons of water," means that the bucket can hold no more than three gallons of water. People who take certain sentences literally might misunderstand what they are really saying. [[User:Dwhitney|Dwhitney]] ([[User talk:Dwhitney|talk]]) 12:38, 7 November 2018 (EST)

== Re:Updating files ==

Ah, thanks. That had never happened before, so I was wondering if there was something weird about the image I was trying to upload. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 17:57, 9 November 2018 (EST)

== Your username being hard to type ==

I was mostly joking. Don't worry dude, I love your name :P -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 19:14, 9 November 2018 (EST)

== Re:Spike Top artwork ==

What I do know is that the "Perfect Edition of the Great Mario Character Encyclopedia" came out approximately four years after ''Super Mario World'' and one year before ''Mario Clash''. If it's the first appearance of the Spike Top artwork, that time gap can lead one to conclude that it doesn't fully coincide with the game. Note that the book seems to have artwork exclusively drawn for it (namely some arcade and Game Boy enemies), so there's a decent chance it was made later. If there is an earlier release of the artwork, let me know! [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:09, 13 November 2018 (EST)

== RE: Spirit Sandbox ==

I'm still working on it, so it's still rough around the edges.

Regarding the Big Bertha thing, I'd rather some discussion actually taking place before slapping a {{tem|merge to}} or {{tem|merge from}} onto the page, though, especially given there were two proposals for that that failed, rather than having the template remain there for weeks without any discussion moving the matter forward. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:10, 16 November 2018 (EST)

==re:Mr Yporolsa==
Thanks, but I already know that you can upload new versions of files instead uploading a new one. It just said that I can't upload a new version. Idk why, but now it works normal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

==RE: Flower Fields==
That something is odd about Flower Fields doesn't mean it's a different dimension or anything of the like. Super Mario Bros. 3 features several places with a unique sun, and no one argues that those places are in a different world than the Mushroom Kingdom. Anyway, I brought the point up on the Discord channel; and an admin removed the speculation about precursors but left the rest, which is fine by me. [[User:JaybirdC|JaybirdC]] ([[User talk:JaybirdC|talk]]) 18:36, 17 November 2018 (EST)

== Re:Squeaks ==

You're right, but looking again, the disambig is now completely unnecessary since the name for Little Mouser in ''The Thousand-Year Door'' is "Sque'''''e'''''k" and not "Sque'''''a'''''k" like it stated. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:00, 18 November 2018 (EST)
:It seems silly to keep the disambig page when one example is a misspelling and the other is a fake. I'd say it falls under the "too general" exemption. I don't understand why the policy was recently updated to retain conjectural titles and spelling mistakes, but the spelling mistake only applies to one actual subject. Either way, Mario jc already deleted it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:04, 18 November 2018 (EST)

== Re:Commas and name citations ==

Yes, it was Walkazo. Specifically, I remember there was a post about how that citation style was preferred because it is more academic or scientific. Although, the way things were done before was "first come, first serve" generally, but Big Cheep Cheep having an inconsistency with the commas right in the first sentence just looked silly. In fairness, things have changed since then (for example, we now enforce American spelling over British spelling instead of using whichever happened to be written first, which frankly looked unprofessional yet actually used to be warnable), so maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to look into getting a clearer policy on this as well to help set the record straight. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:20, 19 November 2018 (EST)

== RE: Stubs ==

Okay. Thanks for telling me. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 17:10, 19 November 2018 (EST)

== RE:Hamma Jamma ==

Sorry I didn't respond to you sooner! Yeah, I didn't take in-game into consideration... Guess there's always a next time. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 20:12, 20 November 2018 (EST)

==Re: Snow Guy==
I'm pretty sure they are just regular Shy Guys to be honest. I don't think I've seen Snow Guys ANYWHERE in Tennis Aces.
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{{User:MadBird82/sig}} 19:16, 22 November 2018 (EDT)


==RE:Big Bertha==

Why should I take this serious anyways? Remember, this is a wiki about a videogame franchise. This wiki is just a game for me and I argued not because I care much about that or something, but because I just like arguing against people and mocking them (although you shouldn't take it all too personal). I should expect an adult to be able to separate jokes and arguments from a post and take the quintessence out of it, and not cry about the writer not being completely serious in such a discussion. {{User:VOIDTHIS/sig}} 14:16, 23 November 2018 (CET)

== Spark and Piro Dangle ==

Sure they are similar, and have the same Japanese name, but have a different design, and don't exactly do the same thing. Normal Sparks can't have their electricity off for a few seconds, and Piro Dangle are fiery instead of electric. And they didn't appear at the same time. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 01:44, 26 November 2018 (EST)

==Re:Color variations: Toads vs Yoshis==
I guess that the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_18#Split_the_colored_enemies|original proposal]] was specifically about enemies, but still, you'd think that similar logic applies here (although even the unique color abilities generally disappeared after ''Super Mario World'' unless I'm forgetting something). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:33, 27 November 2018 (EST)

==Re:Spriter's Resource==
It would make more sense, but I've only found references to the Spriters Resource on it and VG Resource-related sites. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:33, 27 November 2018 (EST)

== Re:Mask and Birdface ==

If I recall correctly, the Shogakukan guide for ''Super Mario Collection''/''All-Stars'' gave the goal and boss versions unique names, so that could work. Mister Wu might be the one to clarify. Though, both have the same name in the original ''Inside Out'' guides. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:11, 28 November 2018 (EST)

== [[Template:DidYouKnow]] ==

Did You Know template should have four points and an image, so rather than remove that information, it should be replaced. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:32, 28 November 2018 (EST)
:You did, but rather than remove the information and tell someone else to replace it, you should find a replacement of your own so the four points and image remain. I can find something, but just letting you know for next time. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:38, 28 November 2018 (EST)

== Re:A question on Dark Horse ==

To be honest, I don't know too much about the ''Zelda Encyclopedia'' translation due to losing interest in post-''Hyrule Historia'' books after I heard that ''Hyrule Graphics'' onwards was mostly written by Nintendo Dream with a conspicuous disclaimer stating that artistic liberties were taken with the source material, essentially making them licensed fanfiction in my eyes. The new things that ''Encyclopedia'' says about the Kokiri and Majora's Mask makes me certain those magazine writers took the chance to get their fan theories approved. Of course, I could be wrong and Nintendo really did intend for Kokiri to only be rural Hylians who aren't actually children or that saving Termina was basically purposeless, but the fact we've only heard about these details in such a sketchy product makes me seriously question the authenticity of these claims. It disappoints me that Zelda Wiki decided these recent books override references to existing ones for no good reason, knowing the iffy writing and flimsy translation.

But I digress. I do know of at least '''one''' error with the translation of ''Encyclopedia'', and that has to do with its timeline. In the newer timeline (which seems to be valid since the series' [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/character/zelda/history/index.html Japanese website] reuses it), in addition to the inclusion of some games that have been released since ''Hyrule Historia'', the position of ''Oracle of Seasons'' and ''Oracle of Ages'' was moved from between ''A Link to the Past'' and ''Link's Awakening'' to sometime [http://i.imgur.com/q4yFr0Z.jpg not] [https://imgur.com/a/h3aRe4s long] after both. In the [http://i.imgur.com/NgPUmxL.jpg Japanese version,] it's a different Link, presumably to explain why Zelda doesn't appear to recognize him (even though he literally waltzes right up to the Triforce and is automatically accepted as a hero right at the beginning of these games, so there was going to be a plot hole either way). In the [https://postimg.cc/gwMJMJst English version,] it's the same Link, making the shift pointless. Personally, after ''A Link Between Worlds'' implied that the characters of "Gramps" and "Mapes" were respectively ALttP Link and Maple, I don't understand the change. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:50, 2 December 2018 (EST)
:Even more - [https://assets1.ignimgs.com/2018/04/30/zeldaen-pg-36-37-1525110835492.jpg it's outright stated.] There was a [https://zeldauniverse.net/forums/Thread/183385-Timeline-and-other-interesting-tidbits-in-Hyrule-Encyclopedia/ Zelda Universe thread] when the Japanese version, ''Hyrule Encyclopedia'', first came out (post #30 is where the Termina bit is translated, post #123 is where the staff page and "creative liberty" statement were discovered). Though in retrospect, Nintendo more or less letting fans write encyclopedic books for one of their key franchises sort of set the bar for what happened with the English version of ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia''. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 02:20, 3 December 2018 (EST)
::Yeah, I also feel pretty strongly about it, and they're both among my personal favorite 2D and 3D games in the series. I'm still crossing my fingers for Miyamoto or Aonuma to address the exclusive ''Encyclopedia'' material with something along of lines of "well, that's only one possible interpretation." [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:19, 3 December 2018 (EST)

== Re:Data-rendered models ==
I understand. From now on, I'll post these kinds of images in their own separate "Data-rendered models" section. --[[User:MarioKartDoubleDash|MarioKartDoubleDash]] ([[User talk:MarioKartDoubleDash|talk]]) 12:39, 5 December 2018 (EST)

== RE: Boss Bass ==

That's exactly what I meant when I brought up the [[Ptooie]] case. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 13:44, 5 December 2018 (EST)

== Re:Blurp Bass ==

Well, the game itself only refers to them as Blurps (Japanese: ''Pukupuku'', oddly enough), so you can easily consider them the same thing but just color variants of each other. Additionally, Red Blurp itself is very similar to Boss Bass, and having Blue Blurp in the same article would actually help a ton in differentiating them (plus it's about as likely to have been the Star Hole in ''Mario Golf'', so taking it as one "Blurp" would make that a bit cleaner). So I would lean towards this idea, sure. As for the artwork, I'm not sure. I'm guessing the original source for it might have been the old website. If it is, it probably accompanies Cheep Cheep or Red Blurp, so we'd go with whichever one it was. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:50, 7 December 2018 (EST)

==Re: YouTube for DiC==

Does this mean I'll have to use "WildBrain - Cartoon Super Heroes" for the highest quality or does this mean I have to type in "HD" next to the "YouTube" part of the upload data of File:SpinyTAOSMB3.png?

Is there some queer alternatives to this nowadays?

{{User:MadBird82/sig}} 8: 39, 8 December 2018 (EDT)

== Re: Русский язык ==

That's actually supposed to happen whenever you italicize Russian. Granted, it also confused me in the little Russian language book I got for myself when studying as it didn't mention that it does that (and it did that also whenever it wrote in italics, so it confused me on how to pronounce it. See the difference between Русский язык and ''Русский язык''. It's not just the t's that get affected but other words too and I have yet to distinguish them. Probably should type all of the Cyrillic out and see what gets affected by the italicization. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 13:05, 9 December 2018 (EST)

== [[Donut Plains]] ==

Informal shortening? Why? This sounds me British English and this does not count as informal language. {{User:Syncro263892XL/sig}} 15:49, 12 December 2018 (EST)

== Re:Image galleries ==

I'm sorry for what happen
[[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 18:50, 12 December 2018 (EST)

== RE: Hothead ==

Right as I got that I just noticed the image notice on [[Gallery:Super_Mario_World#Other_characters_and_enemies]], though I looked around and it seems ''Ultimate'' does use the ''Smash'' artwork for the spirit oddly enough. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:50, 13 December 2018 (EST)

== A spooky question ==
Since you told me you've worked with music and sound before, I'd like to know your opinion on something. Let's say there's a game that reuses a track from another game with some differences, such as having a different soundfont and maybe some pitches added. For example, ''[[Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis]]'' uses a version of the [[Spooky House]] theme from ''[[Mario vs. Donkey Kong]]'' ([https://youtu.be/hzRAWwbAopc]) for its [[Spooky Attic]] level ([https://youtu.be/Vr6EhbYb4FY]). In this case, what should the Spooky Attic version be called in relation to the original?
*"remix" is out of the question because the composition is the same
*"arrangement" sounds too pretentious for what it is; the term feels like it would refer to an orchestrated version or something that uses real instruments, while here we're talking strictly electronic sounds
*"cover" is used exclusively for songs, afaik.

For situations like these, I prefer using the term "retuned version" (e.g. "The Spooky Attic theme is a retuned version of the Spooky House theme.") because it uses different tunes for the same composition. However, not only does it sound fake, it can also be misread as "returned" with a second "r".

There are many music tracks from the ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong'' series in the same situation and I want to know what's good for the future. Therefore, what term do you think best fits this case? -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 19:59, 13 December 2018 (EST)
:Thanks, I dumb and didn't think of putting it that simply. -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 22:12, 13 December 2018 (EST)

== RE: Boomerang Bro. image problem ==

Sorry, I'm not sure what the problem is myself but I'll bring it up in admin discussion and see if any of the more tech-savvy staff know. Which artwork specifically doesn't load? Do they show up when logged out? I had a problem where the word "Advertisements" didn't show up in headers while logged in because an ad-blocker hid anything with ID "Advertisements" from me, so maybe it could be something similar to that. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:50, 16 December 2018 (EST)

:Yep, that seems to be a similar case according to Porplemontage. Just disable it for MarioWiki since ads don't appear when logged in anyway. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 01:34, 16 December 2018 (EST)

== Re:Biglies ==

Yeah, Big Bullet Bill was probably just me remembering incorrectly (unless someone somehow submitted a hacked level, but I doubt it). The Kamella reasoning makes sense, though I am curious if Big Magikoopa's name would happen to be exactly the same as Giant Kamek's (I couldn't find out with quick searching, but it's probably Deka Kamek anyway). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:44, 21 December 2018 (EST)

== Ukiki and other "Giant" enemies. ==

I forgot to ask you in a while though. You said if your Cheep Chomp proposal failed, you said we should reconsider Ukiki/Grinder/''Osaru-san''. Should we also reconsider [[Giant Goomba|other ''Kyodai'']]/[[Big Koopa Troopa|''Dai'']] and [[Big Piranha Plant|''Deka'']] enemies too? Or only for Ukikis? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:20, 2 January 2019 (EST)
::In which reason for Koopa Troopa? Unlike Big Boo, the "Big" enemies don't seem to be based off each other. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:06, 2 January 2019 (EST)

== RE:Complicating frog ==

The same can be said about ''Dark Moon'' frogs (since they also act as enemies) and they aren't going to be split. The differences from one frog to another are so variable that it's safer to keep them lumped together into one article to avoid confusion. -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 18:49, 6 January 2019 (EST)

== [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Togemen&curid=63237&diff=2581557&oldid=2581541 About Togemen] ==

That's fine, but I was actually going to say that, if calling the original version "white" is the point of contention (as it may be more accurately just imply a lighter hue), I'd be okay if you also wanted to remove that bit. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:42, 15 January 2019 (EST)

== Re:Purple Bullet Bill ==

With the case of SMB3 Missile Bill, i'm waiting for Mister Wu's answer to see if Bull's Eye Bill was listed as a SMB3 enemy in the Super Mario Pia, so we can have a proof if the section should stay, or merged with Bullet Bill. With the case of Purple Bullet Bill, (which i didn't notice until you bring that to my talk page) is actually a color behavior difference (with the Encyclopedia using an identifier as other colored enemies). --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:09, 23 January 2019 (EST)
:You mean in [[Relay Heiho#Names in other languages|these]] [[Bouncing Bullet Bill#Names in other languages|cases]]? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:22, 23 January 2019 (EST)

== RE: Edit summary length ==

Some changes Steve made to the CSS I presume. It's likely a work in progress, as there are some features missing like the collapsible nav templates. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:21, 24 January 2019 (EST)

==RE:Ghosts template==
There still is templates like that, such as [[Template:Flowers]]. Also,  [[User talk:Alex95#Ghost template|Alex95 approved of the Ghosts template]]. I did not know that we deleted templates like that, as the Ghosts template was deleted as it was moved to template:Undead, which was in turn deleted, although the delete log only said ''get outta here''. It does say that these templates are deleted on [[MarioWiki:Navigation templates]], so I will add a delete template on the template. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 12:27, 28 January 2019 (EST)

==RE: Piranha==
shoot thanks for the heads up. Even if I can't move things, am I still allowed to add things to articles? {{User:Paper Jorge/sig}}

== Re:"Normal Pokey Doesn't Appear In The Game" ==

That's called "Dharma Sambo" (だるまサンボ) on page 127 of ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'', but the Prima guide calls it a red "Pokey" on pages 197 and 204. The ''Super Mario Galaxy'' Prima guide isn't as neat as the ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' one and calls several enemies more generically (for example, Piranha Plant and Spiny Piranha Plant are both "Piranha Plants", Goomba and Goombeetle are both "Goombas", Octoguys are "squids", etc.). Dharma Samba ''is'' smaller than Coco Sambo and is defeated more easily, so I totally get how the wiki arrived at "Pokey" and "Big Pokey" - but that's also now ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'' material, so we should probably do something about them. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:11, 31 January 2019 (EST)
:"Big Pokey" got in the English ''Encyclopedia'' (so did the Spiny/Prickly mix-up that you and ''Ultimate'' caught on, incidentally), so at least that one's in a position where it should be changed. The red Pokey / Dharma Sambo might use some discussion first since there's something to it, though. Anyway, I've been using the filename romanizations since they do match up ("Dharma" likely refers to a {{wp|Daruma doll}}, with which it shares etymology in Japanese, I guess due to its smoother round segments). About that website - I know what you're talking about. It was [http://neomariogalaxy.bplaced.net/?page=objectdb here] and it had WIP info on the sequel and ''Super Mario 3D Land'' as well, but now it's been converted to a game hack page and the original site seems gone. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:49, 31 January 2019 (EST)
::That's another reason why I thought it might be better to just split off Big Pokey now and worry about the red Pokey later, but there's "coconut" for Coco Sambo and "red" for Dharma Sambo off the top of my head. Neither are very ideal, though. Maybe "yellow ''Super Mario Galaxy'' enemy" and "red ''Super Mario Galaxy'' enemy" or something along those lines if it's not too wordy. Also, since the namesake coconuts aren't used to defeat the Thwomp Desert Pokey, I don't think it's supposed to be the same thing. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:16, 31 January 2019 (EST)
:::If that's the case, then both should be merged with Pokey (at least for now), since having Coco Sambo as Big Pokey would basically be citing ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia''... [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:41, 31 January 2019 (EST)
::::The thing is that Big Pokey didn't properly exist until ''New Super Mario Bros. U''. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 23:14, 31 January 2019 (EST)
:::::You're right! There are definitely two different-sized Pokeys in the ''Double Dash'' version of the course, so I'll add it as its debut. It'd be simplest to leave the article unsplit... Although, on the other hand, the [[Pokey#Super Mario Galaxy trading card bio|trading card]] also treats them as color variations instead of mentioning a size difference. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:44, 1 February 2019 (EST)

== Re:SMRPG Magikoopa ==

There are several Magikoopas seen with Bowser at Rose Way and Moleville, so I think the more likely scenario is that Square intended for a Magikoopa to be fought as a basic enemy like the Goombas and Terrapins that also accompany Bowser (in fact, there's some evidence suggesting that there might have been an entire deleted area), but it was removed and repurposed for the intro (Magidragon and BB-Bomb have blank names in the Japanese version, so they were likely always intended for the intro). This may be the reason why Magikoopa/Kamezard was given a unique name from the generic Magikoopa/Kamek. That reminds me: in the Japanese version, it's made clearer that not only was Kamezard leading Bowser's Magikoopas, but Jagger and the Goomba from Monstro Town (the guardian of the triplets) were ''also'' part of Bowser's remaining Terrapins and Goombas. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:45, 1 February 2019 (EST)

== Re:Doki Doki ==
Noted. Also; it's possible - but [http://videogameartarchive.com/post/82033456571/various-enemies-from-super-mario-bros-2-from-the here's a better link]. The website credits the "Doki Doki Panic" help guide as their source for said images, whatever a help guide is. Manual? Strategy guide? Regardless... {{User:Paper Jorge/sig}} [http://videogameartarchive.com/tagged/doki-doki-panic Also here's a link to all images tagged DDP]
:I found ''[https://www.hit-japan.com/book21/P180518061.jpg Hisshō Kōryakuhō]'' when I looked up a ''Doki Doki Panic'' help guide, and found an [https://www.hit-japan.com/book21/P180518067.jpg enemy page] from the book. It matches up with the art in the ''Super Mario USA'' version as seen on the talk page (note Mario and a potion can be spotted there), so it seems the company reused artwork. You can also see that there's artwork that the Video Game Art Archive didn't upload, such as Tryclyde and Green Birdo. I can't tell at this point if ''all'' of the artwork is the same, as the ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' manual updated [[:File:Poke Super Mario Bros 2.png|Pokey]] and the guide's [[:File:DokiPokey.png|artwork]] is closer to the [[:File:Sanbo.png|original]]. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:52, 7 February 2019 (EST)

==RE:Bullet Bill==
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Mr7q-v-64&t=1969s By zooming in on this part of this video you can see servrel black dots on the sprite]. It seems like there are these dots on the sprite, so I apologize for my mistake. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 18:41, 8 February 2019 (EST)
:It seems like the dots are an error then, so I again apologize for my mistake. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 20:51, 8 February 2019 (EST)

==[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Propeller_Piranha&curid=5714&diff=2601464&oldid=2594062 About using romanized file names]==
I don't think it's inherently ridiculous; I did the same approximation for the "Big" enemies (like Paragoomba) from ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', which kept things more consistent and much less of a headache to keep track of on those pages. It slightly bends protocol a bit, sure, but it conveniently aligns with the current conclusion. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:30, 11 February 2019 (EST)
:I mean, if "Giant Land Para-Goomba" couldn't be used, then using "Big Paragoomba" like that would've been anachronistic, hence referencing the filename (also because the older big names for the other enemies were spanning several different time frames and frankly looked silly when applied to ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' given they'd be using the current names right in the next game). Though I guess they're not direct romanizations like Propeller Packun because that would be "Deka" and unusable. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:14, 11 February 2019 (EST)
::I concede on Propeller Piranha, but again (even putting aside that Big Paragoomba didn't exactly exist yet): Giant Goomba originally came from ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', Super Piranha Plant originally came from the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' guide, and the big Koopa Troopa presented the distinct problem of which name from the ''Super Mario Bros. 3'' guide would be most appropriate (should it be Giant Koopa, which is an umbrella term that could be grouping Colossal Koopa Paratroopas together, or Green Gargantua Koopa Troopa, even though Red Giant Koopa Troopas don't appear and thus the color distinction is superfluous?). It was a hodge-podge of various outdated sources, and in this case, a simpler, less messy method is available - the "Big" filenames arriving at the same destination. Either way, it wasn't going to be perfect. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:54, 11 February 2019 (EST)
:::Are you thinking of the Koopa Troopas from the first game? They also came in red, but they're all green in the sequel. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 23:08, 11 February 2019 (EST)
::::I was referring to ''Super Mario Galaxy 2''. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 23:20, 11 February 2019 (EST)
:::::I'm referring to the enemies from Supermassive Galaxy in general, which all reference their modern "Big" names now. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 23:25, 11 February 2019 (EST)
::::::Keep in mind that Big Wigglers and Big Thwomps are also in Supermassive Galaxy, so you would've had all these different names for a big enemy from more or less unrelated sources clashing with the modern one within the same space. That case is one where being strict is counterintuitive and a bit of an eyesore. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:10, 12 February 2019 (EST)
:::::::Because it marks a turning point where the standard was ''knowingly'' switched to "Big" over the unique names. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:18, 12 February 2019 (EST)
::::::::Just ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', as far as I know. If it counts, the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' Prima guide calls it a "big Goomba" then switches to "giant Goomba" (29). Unfortunately, the ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' Prima guide also didn't use proper names. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:32, 12 February 2019 (EST)
:::::::::Just like Small Goomba, the impression I had is that it was never considered a "true" Big Goomba since it is a normal one artificially under Kamek's spell, but I could be wrong. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:50, 12 February 2019 (EST)
::::::::::''Paper Mario: Color Splash'' is a case where the Japanese names are different as well, with Mega Goomba being ''Kyodai Kuribō'' instead of ''Deka Kuribō'' and Small Goomba being ''Chibi Kuribō'' instead of ''Mame Kuribō'' (though for what it's worth, the internal names are <tt>big_kuribo</tt> and <tt>small_kuribo</tt>). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 01:15, 12 February 2019 (EST)
I just found out that the Prima guide for ''Super Mario 3D World'' consistently gives the name "Mega Piranha Plant" to Big Piranha Plant, and since the filename for it is <tt>PackunFlowerBig</tt>, that proves me wrong. So I'll move the affected big enemies back to the then-current names and make an exception for Big Paragoomba. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:38, 14 February 2019 (EST)

== Re:Flurry Sunshine ==

I didn't notice the buttons, but they lack the distinct feet that Flurries have and don't seem to have their squat shape, so they look to be depicted as more like nondescript snowmen to me. 18:18, 14 February 2019 (EST)
:It's hard to tell because they're animated. I honestly don't think there's enough to say with absolute certainty that they are Flurries, but maybe it would work better as trivia? Something like, "''there are snowmen in the background of the Gleam Glacier map that have a resemblance to Flurries, but bounce instead of walk due to their lack of feet.''" And noted; I was just following Paper Jorge's lead there. I may go back and fix the links later. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:50, 14 February 2019 (EST)

== Re:Surprise Flower ==

I would guess "Flower" because I see internal references to that word, but I actually asked {{user|Hiccup}} to look into it for me earlier. Do you know how soon the deadline is for the month's 'Shroom Spotlight? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:05, 18 February 2019 (EST)
:No idea - I skimmed through the early Nintendo Power coverage, their ''Inside Out'', ''Mario Mania'' and ''All-Stars'' guides, and even the Prima ''Super Mario Advance'' guide for good measure, and haven't found it at all. According to ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'', it's not ''Super Mario USA'' artwork since that's just an early version of the ''Super Mario Advance'' artwork, and the one in the ''Super Mario World'' section is just an alternate recolored version of the jumping variant artwork from the ''Super Mario USA'' section. Worse case scenario, it's random fan-art that somehow got mixed in here. Unfortunately, the uploader hasn't posted in about five years. On another note, related to the above - do you think the appearance of Big Goomba in ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' should be referred to as Grand Goomba instead of Giant Goomba? The reason being that "Grand Goomba" comes from ''Super Mario'' series sources whereas "Giant Goomba" was only used in a ''Smash Bros.'' series source ([[Talk:Metal Box#Rename|similar to this failed proposal idea]]). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:28, 20 February 2019 (EST)

== Re: Chinese Midbus ==
BiS wasn't officially released in mainland China, the release in Taiwan was just the Japanese version imported. The later translated names are unofficial translations.
[[User:EC2-Towards|EC2-Towards]] ([[User talk:EC2-Towards|talk]]) 06:27, 19 February 2019 (EST)

==Something's wrong with the MLSSBM Bestiary!==
Hey. I ''really'' hate to be a tattletale right now, but an anomymous user is constantly editing the Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions bestiary. I don't know what's up with [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mario_%26_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga_%2B_Bowser%27s_Minions_bestiary&oldid=2608288| all the hoopla going on], but I think you should talk to whoever was editing the stats. The "Fawful (1)" and "Fawful (2)" categories are messing up the top part of the bestiary.

{{User:MadBird82/sig}} 19:10, 22 February 2019 (EDT)

==Conjecture==
Chill dude, it was a joke and I was about to add the template back. Me not noticing it the first time around was a mistake. Sheesh. {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 18:57, 22 February 2019 (EST)
:I know, don't educate me on that. I would never actually vandalize a page, and I think my contributions to this site stand as solid proof for that. I hit Save Changes to add the template back right as you reverted the previous edit yourself. The joke was made in the first place to show you that I didn't notice the template the first time around, in a light-hearted way, but then you took it seriously and that upset me. {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 19:15, 22 February 2019 (EST)
::Writing an edit summary takes long. Ooh, I made a slightly unconstructive edit that I was just about to revert. Burn the vandal on stake. {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 19:19, 22 February 2019 (EST)

Just drop this. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:24, 22 February 2019 (EST)
:I hope Doc will drop it as well. I hate it when you do something a little silly, with no bad intentions, and people become harsh on you. It only adds up to your insecurity, and people then ask what's wrong with you. I just want to combat this because I'm full of it. {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 19:30, 22 February 2019 (EST)
::It was a simple joke at your own expense that was meant to be quickly reverted and didn't actually do any major damage to the article (such as blanking or inappropriateness). I'm not regarding this as vandalism, but that said, joke edits should stay off of the mainspace articles. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:34, 22 February 2019 (EST)
It's alright now, I understand. My apologies for acting up. {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 20:14, 22 February 2019 (EST)

== Re: Proposals ==

Ah, sorry. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 18:09, 26 February 2019 (EST)

== Turtle thing ==

Well, given that 7feetunder had his proposal merging them with the Big Koopa Troopa, should i wait four weeks to make a counterproposal? Mister Wu brought the evidence at the worst time, and i'm not sure wether it should be me or someone else who makes the counterproposal. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:18, 27 February 2019 (EST)

== RE:Future Tense ==

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/f6/89/39f689d45cdc280cbef06cf154e47feb.png [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Ban certain cases of future tense from the wiki]]

{{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 18:00, 28 February 2019 (EST)
== RE:DK64 renders ==
Sorry for the delay to answer.

The characters and objects take everything from my emulator. I press print screen, erase the background in Paint leaving the model, I copy and paste in Paint NET to leave the background transparent.  

[[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 12:19, 1 March 2019 (EST)

In fact these things are hard to find. For example, the [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Blast-O-Matic_(bonus_barrel).png Bonus Barrel] they are disposable, if I pass this double bonus for complete in five chambers , there will not them anymore. Now I'm playing this game from start to finish to catch [[Blast-o-Matic]]'s metal arrowhead pole.

[[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 14:40, 1 March 2019 (EST)

== Um ==

[[Special:Diff/265241|This edit summary doesn't exactly help matters]]. A simple reversion would've worked. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:26, 1 March 2019 (EST)
:It's best to just not say anything that could antagonize them at all. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:31, 1 March 2019 (EST)

==Re:Zeldawiki==
At least they eventually corrected "ReDead Knight" (I actually suggested moving it to "Gibdo" long ago)...albeit not entirely for the right reasons. It looks incredibly amateurish for them to refer to official names they'd prefer not to use as "not considered Canon" (a term that should really be reserved for story). Their references are also completely out of whack now that they are sometimes plain hard to read (just look at Ganon or Princess Zelda) and are for some reason entirely sucking up to the Dark Horse books by having them replace older valid sources (does that mean they consider the names and info they use to be unofficial before the release of those books or what?). It's really messy. I wouldn't even know where to begin to be honest. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:20, 1 March 2019 (EST)
:Could be that the editors who went around replacing existing references with Dark Horse ones didn't get around to Zazak, or they knew deep down that merging would be a mistake. The logic isn't internally consistent with ReDead Knight getting a partial merge with Gibdo. They don't have a naming policy, do they? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:48, 1 March 2019 (EST)
::That's something that should be cleaned up in addition to citation policy, since their idea of naming doesn't have a whole lot of structure to it. They also probably don't need to cite things that should be readily evident in the games unless it's obscure info. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:27, 1 March 2019 (EST)
:::Moldorm is another one that comes to mind since different localizations have been all over the place there. What's your idea? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 17:46, 2 March 2019 (EST)
::::I would help with creating a new zeldawiki. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 18:31, 2 March 2019 (EST)
::::I don't know the Gamepedia situation too well, but it has my interest. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:30, 2 March 2019 (EST)
:::::I know it's Wikia, but what's your take on Zeldapedia? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:20, 3 March 2019 (EST)
If it were up to me, I'd honestly just leave Helmaroc King split (ain't no way Helmasaur King is a "Great Bird"). I'd want Zora merged because the sea Zora and river Zora distinction was only made through one or two dialog boxes one time (in ''Oracle of Ages''). In Hyrule, both types claim Zora River, so the "sea" name never really worked out as a whole. Their current "enemy" identifier doesn't factor the times some were friendly NPCs (like ''A Link Between Worlds''). I'm pretty sure ''Ocarina of Time'''s Zoras were originally designed with the 2D incarnation in mind. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:15, 5 March 2019 (EST)
:I actually forgot about that ''Brawl'' trophy. Considering other examples that come to mind over the years like Wizzrobe and Lizalfos, I guess it would be kind of fruitless to separate the ''Zelda'' species based on design characteristics. In the ''Link's Awakening'' Switch trailer, you can even see that the Moblin design has been updated to include a pig nose to move away from the original bulldog version. In the end, it may just be better to play it as loosely as Nintendo is choosing to do and not lose sleep over it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 23:59, 6 March 2019 (EST)
::If we applied it to our policy standards, Fallmaster has in-game references from ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''The Minish Cap'' calling it "Wallmaster" and "Wall Master" respectively, and I'm fairly certain the original Wall Master (from walls) technically only appeared in one game, so "Wall Master (''The Legend of Zelda'')" could be a separate article. This is all going to be a hard sell to the current wiki... [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 06:50, 7 March 2019 (EST)
:::I got the English version of ''A Link Between Worlds'' because I didn't want to wait another month for the Japanese version to get my ''Zelda'' fix (I did the same for the Wii version of ''Twilight Princess'' earlier), so I didn't get the Japanese guide. I know that Clyde Mandelin, a professional translator also known for the ''Mother 3'' fan translation, has copies of both for his ''[https://legendsoflocalization.com/research-zelda-kamigami2-albw/ Legends of Localization]'' series, so he might be the one to ask (by the way, he also did a brilliant playthrough for the English version of ''Super Mario RPG'', using his own program to display equivalent text from the Japanese ROM in the corner in realtime and make translation comparisons on the fly). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:59, 7 March 2019 (EST)

I mean, you can potentially start whatever wiki you want to. But if you want them to fix their sources, talking on that actual wiki is a good first step. They can also explain how they work. I've worked on Zelda Wiki a few times, taking part in their weekly "Wiki Weekly" event, and (while they certainly use an overabundance of references for my tastes) I haven't noticed too many naming problems, if any. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:09, 7 March 2019 (EST)

I should mention that I actually haven't reregistered my account with Zelda Wiki since the Gamepedia merger (I can but, as Alex95 mentioned, it seems it's bad timing since they have their own issues right now what with Wikia/Fandom shenanigans)... Anyway, if you do decide to go through with this idea, I'll have your back on it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:32, 7 March 2019 (EST)
:Our goals align. Their ground-up approach should also theoretically reduce clutter in the long run. This could work. The main issue is that most people are going to search for "Legend of Zelda Wiki" or something along those lines, so if we set our attention on them, the "Zelda Archive" name would need promoting to get out there. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:04, 8 March 2019 (EST)
::They're already making a new Zelda Wiki: https://zeldaarchive.com/ [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 11:38, 9 March 2019 (EST)
:::Does it look potentially interesting? [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:48, 9 March 2019 (EST)
::::Which elements? I also wrote an article there: https://zeldaarchive.com/index.php/Link:_The_Faces_of_Evil [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:52, 9 March 2019 (EST)
:::::I think he told me that one is based on Zelda canon and the other page is based on game details itself. You can message Hylian pi with questions there--i'm sure he's open to suggestions & improvements [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 22:21, 9 March 2019 (EST)
:Looks like Zelda Archive is closed from editors--it was meant to be a personal project for Hylian pi himself all along. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 23:47, March 12, 2019 (EDT)
::Just use the word disappointing. That's what it is really. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:01, March 13, 2019 (EDT)
:::The owner could have just made it clear that it's strictly NES only for the time being instead of shutting off outside help, so that's really too bad...although I'm not sure if ShoutWiki would count as a NIWA website if the idea is to eventually make it a replacement for the current one. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:40, March 16, 2019 (EDT)
::::LinkTheLefy, I dont plan to use it on shoutwiki forever. I've just never set up a MediaWiki website before, and so this is a temporary solution for the time being. It's more in the context of preserving the existing info from Zelda Archive, seeing as he deleted it. I wouldn't want to manage a Zelda wiki either, since I'm far from an expert. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 19:48, March 16, 2019 (EDT)
:Doc, speaking of Triforce Wiki, I hope it will get independently hosted somehow. ShoutWiki was just a temporary fix to host the articles and content removed from Zelda Archive. Hylian pi was nice enough to allow me to relocate it all [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 14:54, March 21, 2019 (EDT)

The hand thing is weird. "Hand" and "???" are very likely meant to be the same type of character, while Phoeni has the same role, but is a different character (she's a girl, while the other two are boys). A discussion on Hand or ??? could be brought up to them (idk how Zelda Wiki handles proposals or whatever they do). {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:05, March 24, 2019 (EDT)
:Well, dang, didn't actually see the MM source. Yeah, that's dumb. Phoeni I think is supposed to be a completely different character, but they used the Prima name to distinguish her from ???. I wouldn't say Zelda Wiki is beyond repair, but some of their policies and content could use a push a right direction.
:Mario Wiki's not exactly perfect either :P {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:43, March 25, 2019 (EDT)
:I'm not sure why it was split since other incarnations of the same character are generally not split (e.g. Malon isn't four articles), so this is another example of an internal inconsistency. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:55, March 25, 2019 (EDT)

== Style Sisters ==

Because it's a red link, I'm assuming it's the [[Jellyfish Sisters]]? Or is it something different only in ''Odyssey''? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:07, 3 March 2019 (EST)
:Ah, okay. Thanks for the info. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:17, 3 March 2019 (EST)

==Re:SML2 items and obstacles==
That is weird, because most of those things have a gameplay purpose. I apologies if this is a poor question as I am not experienced with game files, however would the background/platform tiles have names or related code? {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 18:19, 3 March 2019 (EST)

==Eye Beamer==
At the very beginning of the mission, there are four Eye Beamers shooting a laser towards the middle, the implication being that they're amplifying and generating the planet's other lasers. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:20, 3 March 2019 (EST)

== Would you happen to know... ==

If "favorite item" in Mario Party 2/3 means anything? Does it affect CPU behavior? I have a feeling it means AI controlling the character is more likely to buy their "favorite item" but I'm not 100% sure. I've observed such behavior but it could be coincidence. Was wondering if you had any data on it? [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 12:18, 4 March 2019 (EST)

== Starting Wiki? ==

Hi, thanks for mentioning me to LinkTheLefty. Just wondering but didnt you plan on starting a new Crash Bandicoot wiki at some point? I could be wrong but I think i remember you saying that. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:54, 7 March 2019 (EST)
:I dont think there needs to be a fourth Zelda Wiki? There's zeldapedia, zelda wiki, and zelda dungeon wiki [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 01:00, 7 March 2019 (EST)
::Starting a new Zelda Wiki would be a struggle. How are you (and Doomhiker) going to pull it off? Zelda isn't a small franchise either--it's a big one. NIWA wont affiliate with two Zelda Wikis either. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 01:08, 7 March 2019 (EST)
:::I thought Zelda Wiki is trying to get out of Gamepedia? Besides, they're also a co-founder of NIWA (ironically) [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 14:34, 7 March 2019 (EST)
::::Yeah they are. Anyway, I'm stumped on this one. This is a decision i'm not involving myself in. If you think a fourth one will help amend the problems with the wikis, then i say go for it. Just remember all the barriers and potential problems this could have. I might pop in and make some edits, but please do keep in mind the issues this could cause. In addition, making a "competitor" out of spite wont resolve anything--if you make another zelda wiki, i suggest a unique purpose behind it--and originality added in. That's what made WiKirby what it is today--it refused to copy from the Wikia, and built itself up from scratch. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 18:16, 7 March 2019 (EST)

==RE:Poochy riding Yoshi==
My mistake, although I still stand by removing it as it is not vandalism, it is not necessarily deleted and it is not poorly written, I just accidentally swapped the characters' names. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 18:38, March 14, 2019 (EDT)
:The content is not really removed, my mistake has just been fixed. Anyways, if you want to re-add it, you can although I do not personally feel that it should stay. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 17:39, March 15, 2019 (EDT)

== Triforce Wiki ==

This will be very minor alternative but http://zelda.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:08, March 14, 2019 (EDT)
:It's a wiki farm--basically Wikia but better. unfortunately i cant find an independent host, so this will have to do for now. Hylian pi is giving me the deleted content to move over. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:45, March 14, 2019 (EDT)
::He might be able to hosting it when it "gets a decent amount of content". Hylian's not a bad person actually. The set up I'm doing on the Zelda Archive split (named Triforce Wiki, name suggested by him) is deliberately being laid out in a way so it's familiar/parallel to Super Mario Wiki's style. Hopefully it can get moved off to an independent host some day--but that will take work and effort, and NIWA will not host a duplicate Zelda Wiki, so it's all on us as editors pretty much. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 00:26, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
:::I'm sorry it's taking forever to move Triforce Wiki to an independent host--I'm really embarrassed about this. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 19:29, April 5, 2019 (EDT)
::::So update, the Triforce Wiki has been cancelled by me. I've found it too challenging to get it going and even get it hosted onto an independent platform. I'm busy focused on [http://conker.rarewiki.com/ Conker Wiki] and the other Rare wikis as usual. I'm also not the largest Zelda expert and made that wiki as a pitch for a new Zelda Wiki. Rare wikis and content are my expertise, hence why most of the content I edit here is regarding the ''Donkey Kong'' franchise Hopefully Zelda Wiki will go off Gamepedia, or NIWA can collectively start a brand new one, based on the one I moved off from Zelda Archive. I just want the Zelda wikis to all come together, since there's far too many of them and it's driving me nuts. Do you still plan on a Crash Bandicoot wiki? I know Metalex would love that. I've seen some Bandipedia pages, and while I'm not a big Crash expert or fan, i could tell it's better to start it completely from scratch than to consider forking it. That's what I did with Conker Wiki. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 17:00, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, I really think Crash deserves a better wiki than what's on Wikia/Fandom currently. I'm not an expert in Wiki editing, but I try my best. If you ever make a Crash Bandicoot Wiki, count me in to try and help ya ^_^ --[[User:Metalex123|Metalex123]] ([[User talk:Metalex123|talk]]) 17:07, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
:Ok Doc, the wiki's been moved to http://zeldawiki.info/ . self-hosted by me [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 11:02, April 30, 2019 (EDT)
::Thank you -- this is the very first MediaWiki i've set up by myself too. I know you and a couple of others were willing to have a fresh start. Nobody was really taking action on this (either due to fear or confusion). I pitched the wiki around, and eventually i just thought to independently maintain and host this one. This time it's about the community, the same kind of magic that happens here. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 20:34, April 30, 2019 (EDT)
:::Yeah shoutwiki wasnt going to work anyway. I'm giving the Mario Wiki style for the Triforce Wiki, as a means of accommodating the editors (many i assume would come from this wiki). Was there anything you were planning on doing on Triforce Wiki in specific? [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 21:04, April 30, 2019 (EDT)

== Rainbow Cruiser ==

Can you [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Airship&diff=next&oldid=2526448 explain] why this '''[[Rainbow Cruiser|tag]]''' remains on the [[Airship|article page]]?

I see, asking you this because there's no discussion on the talkpage.
{{User:L151/sig}}

== Re:Piscatory Pete ==

The only thing is that every guide gives Piscatory Pete a separate entry from Flopsy Fish, so you'd think it'd just be mentioned in one "Cheep Cheep" description like Seedy Sally and Short Fuse for Ukiki if they wanted to consider it the same thing. It may be best as a proposal considering the Flopsy Fish merge was also a proposal, though between this and Needlenose (which is called "Pokey" in not one, but ''both'' more recent guides), I feel like the source priority exception proposal is starting to show its flaws. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:47, March 20, 2019 (EDT)

== ''Super Mario Galaxy'' / ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' fiery counterparts ==

What about the "X" bosses from the ''Mario & Luigi'' series? Those are split despite being even less differentiable than the stronger King Kaliente. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 09:05, March 20, 2019 (EDT)

==Nipper Dandelions==
Should I move the page now, as five out of seven people agree with moving the page? {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 14:58, March 23, 2019 (EDT)

== RE:Shroob Castle ==

It was brought up on the page's talk page, and both the in-game map and the guide call it "Peach's Castle (Past)". {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 01:13, March 24, 2019 (EDT)

== Re: Bero ==

Ah, I get it. [[User:Scrooge200|Scrooge200]] ([[User talk:Scrooge200|talk]]) 22:50, March 24, 2019 (EDT)

== Stompin' Chomps ==

Can we say for sure that "Stompin' Chomp" is actually the enemy's English name? I know it's from the name of [[Rompin', Stompin' Chomps]], but I'm reading it more as "Rompin', Stompin' [[Chomp]]s" rather than "Rompin', [[Stompin' Chomp]]s". [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 05:04, March 25, 2019 (EDT)
:Ah, alright. I somehow misread who removed the tag, sorry about that. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 06:53, March 25, 2019 (EDT)

==Re:Wallmaster Vs. Bob-omb==
The thing about Bob-omb is that we do know of a few occasions where they are considered to have debuted in ''Super Mario Bros. 2'', so it goes beyond name changes and into character descriptions. That's different territory. For example, the earlier ''Super Smash Bros.'' games, while not perfect, did try to list the specific debut before the English writers later went with the Japanese idea of general appearances. Another thing is that the designs in the ''Zelda'' series can vary wildly, whereas the original Bob-Omb enemy (at least as seen in the in-game sprites and ''Doki Doki Panic'' / ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' artwork as opposed to ''Super Mario USA'' / ''Super Mario Advance'' artwork) is unmistakably classic Bob-omb, just with hands and recolored feet. I feel like the ''Super Mario Sunshine'' enemy splits (as derivative species including Bob-omb) are likelier to pass, although I'm wary of that since it seems more like a retroactive explanation. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:55, March 25, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: Mockup sprites ==

That doesn't matter, we don't use unofficially recreated sprites/images regardless of how pixel- and colour-perfect it is, especially not on "more than likely" and well before the game's and official sprites' release. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:17, March 26, 2019 (EDT)

:It did, I said "especially" not "specifically". If it's not the sprite from the game, we're not going to pass it off as that. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 03:01, March 27, 2019 (EDT)

::I meant ripped from the game. I know the sprite came from the game. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 03:23, March 27, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Quick solution ==

My impression is that the guidance translator had access to an internal localization database (accounting for the Spiny/Prickly fix), but it didn't contain any entries for the ''Yoshi's Island DS'' Piranha Plants (hence why they aren't in the Nintendo Power guide), so the wiki was looked up as a judgment call. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:55, March 27, 2019 (EDT)
:I think Doomhiker was going to make a proposal on it, but the discussion slowed down after Glowsquid's post, and then it more or less halted after the Polterpiranha thing came to light. My stance is probably still outnumbered, though. After some thought, here's my idea: I'd be all right with renaming the article to Nipper Dandelion '''if''' it's referred to by its original Watage Pakkun name when referring to ''Yoshi's Island DS''. We don't usually do that for foreign names, but it's not explicitly disallowed and given the circumstances, it's reasonable to do it here. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:15, March 27, 2019 (EDT)
::At the end of the day, for twelve years straight, it was unofficial. Applying this name to those articles ''would'' be citing ourselves. Also, I can think of at least one other instance where we use Japanese names for certain appearances - namely the Mad Scienstein from ''Wario Land 3'', who goes by "Arewo Shitain-hakase" in ''Wario Land 4'' articles. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:22, March 27, 2019 (EDT)
:::But we'd be citing ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'', a game that retroactively "officialized" it over a decade after ''Yoshi's Island DS''. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:44, March 27, 2019 (EDT)
::::Except this approach would not be wholly "''prohibiting''" it - it would treat it as the conjectural name it was ''then'' and the official name it is ''now'' going forward. It is pretty much ''objectively'' what the talk page's "accurate documentation" would look like if it is true to the claim. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:55, March 27, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: SRMIOS ==

Basically a yellow recolour of [[:File:HRMIOS.png|this exact image]]. In the game, the cartridges inside the pot [[:File:NRMIOS.png|differ and move around]]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:25, March 27, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: SMM NSMBU ==

Is there any way the maps can be applied to the sprites? Because I don't know how to. --[[User:MatiasNTRM|MatiasNTRM]] ([[User talk:MatiasNTRM|talk]]) 17:30, March 30, 2019 (EDT)

==RE:Nipper Plant==	
I know, however it still is more recent artwork due to it being modified, and it is less stylized. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 17:33, March 30, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: Mario/Luigi ==

Alex95 brought that up to me in admin discussion, what I was asking was how it even happened. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:44, March 31, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: Hemispheres and equinoxes ==

{{tem|released}} has one for Brazil if that's what you're asking, though I don't think a date has been released for ''M&S2020'' for that region. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 04:03, March 31, 2019 (EDT)

== Re: Spike Top and Red Spike Top ==

I dunno if I'm wording this right, but TTYD treats Red Spike Tops as derivatives more than minor variants, imo. It'd be one thing if it was like Color Splash and Blue Spike Tops and Red Spike Tops were treated roughly the same by the game, but it's a lot more like the [[KP Koopa]] situation if anything.

On another note, if you're referencing the SMRPG Snifits, those ''should'' be split seeing as how their English name is the only reason they're merged in the first place. [[User:Niiue|Who has lost his]] [[User talk:Niiue|tail?]] 18:48, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
:Do you think KP Koopas should be merged with regular Koopas since they have the same stats and look like regular yellow Koopas from SMW? [[User:Niiue|Who has lost his]] [[User talk:Niiue|tail?]] 18:54, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
::The name's really not the important part, imo. [[User:Niiue|Who has lost his]] [[User talk:Niiue|tail?]] 23:32, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
:::The color variations in the newer games aren't treated the same as Red Spike Top, though, which is part of why I don't think they should be treated the same by the wiki. And the fact that TTYD made a conscious decision to make regular Spike Tops blue and treat the "normal" design as a new variant is another reason I think they should stay split. [[User:Niiue|Who has lost his]] [[User talk:Niiue|tail?]] 23:49, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
::::That's kind of speculative, imo. PM64 had the same gameplay, but still made Spike Tops red. [[User:Niiue|Who has lost his]] [[User talk:Niiue|tail?]] 23:53, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
:::::I still doubt that's why Spike Tops are blue in TTYD. [[User:Niiue|Who has lost his]] [[User talk:Niiue|tail?]] 00:11, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
::::::For one, regular Spike Tops continued to be blue until Sticker Star, which redesigned most of the enemies to look like their platformer designs anyway. Also note that TTYD has unused graphics and data for "Aka [[Buzzy Beetle|Metto]]", "Aka [[Para-Beetle|Pata Metto]]", and "Aka [[Spiky Parabuzzy|Pata Togemetto]]", showing that Red Spike Tops are the only remaining part of an otherwise unused Red Buzzy Beetle enemy type. [[User:Niiue|Who has lost his]] [[User talk:Niiue|tail?]] 02:37, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::Either way, they're clearly intended to be distinct from regular Spike Tops. I think they should stay split for the same reason I think KP Koopas shouldn't be merged with regular Koopas. [[User:Niiue|Who has lost his]] [[User talk:Niiue|tail?]] 02:51, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::And KP Koopas are just Koopa Troopas that dyed their shells, doesn't mean they should be merged. (And I'd argue there is such a thing as a "regular Koopa", considering how KP Pete's overworld Tattle says he's "just a basic Koopa".) [[User:Niiue|Who has lost his]] [[User talk:Niiue|tail?]] 03:55, April 1, 2019 (EDT)

==Bowser/Hidden Locations==
Okay there should be easier ways of finding Bowser and Hidden Locations for 64 so instead of naviboxes by alphabetical order how can one make a new Category?--[[Special:Contributions/70.161.202.199|70.161.202.199]] 13:53, April 3, 2019 (EDT)

Well there should be an easier way in what order of Secret Areas and Levels one needs to make when going through a walkthrough.--[[Special:Contributions/70.161.202.199|70.161.202.199]] 12:03, April 5, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Mini-Ninja ==

I don't see why it wouldn't be considered a legacy name. ''Mario Mania'' had a few lasting effects for a few other enemies, like the first usage of Lava Bubble, and Koopa Paratroopa arguably had it worse since it was referred to by various different names for the next four or so games in a row. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:41, April 5, 2019 (EDT)

== Chomps ==

The reason I did it is because the thing above is’nt going anywhere so I made it to do this. Let’s wait a second. [[User:HEROMARIO|&#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0]] ([[User talk:HEROMARIO|talk]]) 18:29, April 5, 2019 (EDT)

Ok I will put it on hold [[User:HEROMARIO|&#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0]] ([[User talk:HEROMARIO|talk]]) 18:33, April 5, 2019 (EDT)

==Pink DKJr vs Gooigi==
'''Very''' good point. In fact, I agree with you about merging the page. However a counterproposal is needed and it would need to be serious unlike the other proposals which were just jokes. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 20:53, April 5, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:"Wet Bones" ==

There was no other in-game name from ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'', so according to our general practice it would be applicable to that specific appearance. "Wet Bone" was likely done as a brief attempt to split or rebrand Fishbone from its original appearance due to its revised behavior (note that "Fish Bone" was not actually used in-game until Nintendo 3DS AR Games). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:30, April 6, 2019 (EDT)
:It is indeed wiki policy to preserve name changes as they happen. Our rules also state: "''When mentioning subjects whose names have changed overtime, the newest name generally takes greater priority, '''except in the context of older media where they went by previous names, in which case those are used instead.'''''" For ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' only, that would be Wet Bones ''at the time''. This is not about the article title, which is what the bulk of the naming policy covers, but rather which one would be applicable to specific appearances. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:42, April 6, 2019 (EDT)
::I'll refer you to the recent case of Flipswitch Panel, which is named as such in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' instruction booklets but was renamed to "Switch Panel" in the ''Super Mario 3D World'' Prima guide. The latter is technically the more recent name and is used in the game sections appropriately, but the former is the article title due to being higher priority. Same idea applies as article titles don't necessarily have the same standards as appearance-by-appearance name changes. Hope that explains it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:10, April 6, 2019 (EDT)
:::I honestly think it was deliberate, but only short-lived: as I pointed out, Fish Bone was given new homing behavior that it didn't have originally, so it was probably just an attempt to distinguish it in some way that the localizers soon decided against afterwards. I can't explain Mini-Ninja, but ''Mario Mania'' '''did''' end up using preferred forms for other things such as Porcupuffer, Fishing Boo, and Parabomb in the long run. If you'd really like, you can ask an admin for a second opinion on these two, but considering Mario jc was on board with the Flipswitch Panel case, I think it would be agreed to simply present the information as it was given here. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:44, April 6, 2019 (EDT)

== Bat ==

The bats in ''Mario Kart 64'' are just that: a bat. Nothing special, and there's nothing in the [[Bat]] disambiguation that would match it. As I as talking [[User_talk:Alex95#Mario_Kart_64|here]], it could really link to [[Swoop]] (its replacement) or just not have any link at all. Or do you have a different suggestion? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:48, April 7, 2019 (EDT)
:[[Bat (Mario Kart 64)|Well, alright then]]. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:57, April 7, 2019 (EDT)

== Monty Mania ==

I don't have ''Yoshi's Crafted World'', but given the wiki doesn't mention this yet, I figured I'd run this past you - it seems like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS32WpZDThQ&t=2m47s big] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po1NcFb1kwQ&t=23s Monty Moles] appear in the game, such as in the Monty-Mole-B-Gone mini-game where they're scored as five Monty Moles. It might be worth its own article. On another note, I noticed that Mega Mole and Morty Mole articles are inconsistent on whether Morty Mole is related or derived from Mega Mole. I'd personally consider it a derivative, but I'll let you decide what to do there. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:19, April 7, 2019 (EDT)

== Sliding Haymaker ==

WHY IN THE WORLD. THAT IS IT’S NAME COME ON!!!!!!!!!! [[User:HEROMARIO|&#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0]] ([[User talk:HEROMARIO|talk]]) 20:04, April 8, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: Sliding Punch ==

You've said that in three different places (including [[Special:Diff/2636081|this]] which I found to be unnecessarily sarcastic and condescending), but anyway that's my mistake, so sorry. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:31, April 8, 2019 (EDT)

:Rather than claiming I was "dishonest" and lied about it, did you at least consider the possibility it was an oversight? I will admit I didn't double-check the rest of the manual; due to the "Sliding Punch"/sliding punch" inconsistency between the header and text, and since I've looked at a lot of manuals for references, most of which use capitalised headers, I assumed it was the same for ''BIS''. If I had noticed, I wouldn't have said anything. Mistakes happen; consider that before assuming bad faith in others next time. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:46, April 9, 2019 (EDT)

== Re: Goonie ==

I’ll try to upload a separate image of the background Goonies when I get back from my vacation. --{{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 06:46, April 10, 2019 (EDT)
:The image has been retaken now. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 00:29, April 15, 2019 (EDT)

== Userpage ==

I have to admit. Your userpage is really cool. (even though I don’t understand a word you are saying at the top). [[User:HEROMARIO|&#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0]] ([[User talk:HEROMARIO|talk]]) 19:21, April 10, 2019 (EDT)

== How long... ==

...have you been a fan of YouTube Poops? Forgive me for snooping<s>AS usual</s>, but I'm one of those people who didn't quite grow out of them after the 07-08 craze (I still think Hotel Mario and Faces of Evil/Wands of Gamelon content is funny), and it's nice to see someone who finds humor in it still. :^) [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 21:21, April 13, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: Nerdrick ==

They're scientists that have built robots and wear glasses (traits that are common in media) and speak gibberish (which isn't even exactly the case with E. Gadd, since he speaks in a comprehensible language). There's hardly any resemblance between them that makes it worth noting. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:49, April 13, 2019 (EDT)

:I'm referring to what E. Gadd says, not how he speaks. E. Gadd actually speaks English (Japanese in Japan etc.) whereas Nerdrick speaks flat-out gibberish that only his robot can understand. Could you be more specific about that last part? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:18, April 14, 2019 (EDT)

::Alright, you can re-add it with that bit in. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:03, April 14, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: Enemy counts ==

That's why users have been adding "(number, not counting ones spawned from Warp Pipes etc.)", which seems reasonable. I'm not getting your point, though; why would you need to count multiple ''instances'' of an enemy appearing? If there's an enemy that appears in a specific location in ''DKCTF'', it would make sense to count that as one. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 00:52, April 16, 2019 (EDT)

:You're being too particular about this. Again, why is it necessary to treat a single enemy appearing infinitely in a specific location as multiple, separate enemies? Especially from the developers' point of view, they're intended to be one enemy set to respawn multiple times. Just count the enemies as you go through the level, add a note to the main game page saying enemies respawn when the player leaves the screen and comes back, and there'd be no fuss. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 02:31, April 16, 2019 (EDT)

== RE:E key ==

Maybe you should just try getting a new keyboard. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 03:02, April 17, 2019 (EDT)
:Oh... {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 03:23, April 17, 2019 (EDT)

== Giant Donkey Kong in Smash Bros. Ultimate ==

Like I said, it's literally just a permanently-Super Mushroomed Donkey Kong that the game treats like every other giant fighter (percentage meter and everything). Why should the fights against Giant Wario in Kirby's route or something similar be any different? &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 21:21, April 17, 2019 (EDT)
:Because it's specifically set aside as the final opponent in the challenge, which is the bloody definition of video game boss? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:29, April 17, 2019 (EDT)

== RE:Disambiguation ==

I was already planning on that. Thanks, though. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 16:27, April 19, 2019 (EDT)

== Re: Paragoomba animation ==

From what I've seen, this is the most agreed-upon "correct" NES palette. {{User:Niiue/sig}} 00:34, April 21, 2019 (EDT)
:That it is. {{User:Niiue/sig}} 00:45, April 21, 2019 (EDT)

== RE:Joe & Mac ==

The previous name still violated consistency on multiple fronts, as we usually use the word "and", not an ampersand, when naming an article covering multiple characters. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 00:50, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
:That's the official name of the '''game''' they star in, which is entirely different from what you mentioned. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 01:44, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
::[http://nintendoagemedia.com/elements_nocache/6B18E388-C54D-D92F-07AA86515B4F8F25.png "Joe and Mac"] is also used pretty consistently, though. {{User:Niiue/sig}} 01:50, April 22, 2019 (EDT)

== Re: Jean de Fillet ==

The revisions have slight differences, so I can't exactly match up where each color goes. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 16:38, April 22, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Jellyfish artwork ==

I'd ask to BubbleRevolution, if he owns guides. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:25, April 24, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:"Snaky Mom" ==

There isn't really anything obviously wrong with the Snaky Mom translation though. "Snake" in Japanese is 「ヘビ」 (''hebi''), not 「ヘビー」 (''hebī''), and 「マム」 (''mamu'') is a direct transliteration of the English "Mom" within the context of it laying eggs. To support this, even the English manual has the following description for Snake: "''She multiplies by producing eggs. Watch out for trouble.''" The real issue seems to be the usage of "Snaky" over "Snake", but it seems to be the closest English equivalent for what the Japanese was going for; see [[Cuttacutta#Names in other languages|Crabby Roller]]. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:00, April 24, 2019 (EDT)
:Not really, in my opinion. "Hebī" is usually seen as a transliteration of "heavy" but the context here is obviously meant as a made-up or off-the-cuff derivative of "hebi", so it has no real definition to speak of, making "mom" the clear noun. There isn't necessarily anything wrong if "snaky" happens to be viewed an adjective as long as it is explained (as it needed to be) and gets the basic idea across, given other enemy names (Shy Guy, Flightless Goonie, etc.). If Snaky Mom goes, then so should Crabby Roller and examples like it to be consistent. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:35, April 24, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Koopa Troopa's page ==

We actually do the same to Super Mushroom and Super Star depending on the game (among others I'm sure). Like Koopa Troopa, the shorter Mushroom and Star forms are also used for broader pages. So if that's how it is, the consistent thing to do would be to treat Koopa on a game-by-game basis as well. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:08, April 24, 2019 (EDT)
:I somehow missed your response earlier, but I forgot to mention that this practice in regards to Koopa Troopa is not new and is something that has already been [[Special:Diff/1917743|established]]. It also seems like the usage of "Koopa" to explicitly refer to the broader turtle species is something that has diminished over time (albeit gradually), given the origin of Koopa as species appears to have been the result of [[Talk:Koopalings#What led to state that .E3.80.8C.E3.82.AF.E3.83.83.E3.83.91.E3.80.8D is exclusively the name of Bowser.3F|mistranslation]]. I remembered another somewhat similar case: Chain Chomp and (chained) Chomps. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:25, April 29, 2019 (EDT)

== Re: Super Mario Party images ==

Those artwork images are from [[Absent Minded]]. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 13:43, April 26, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Iga ==

The reason i wasn't sure about what it was meant to be is possibly due to lack of spikes... Strange that their Japanese name use "Iga" despite not having spikes. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:49, April 29, 2019 (EDT)

== Here's something to lighten up your day ==

https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Man#Theories [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 18:03, May 1, 2019 (EDT)
:Make it a second thing to lighten up your day: https://zeldawiki.info/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_(video_game) The layout is inspired from the SMB1 page on this wiki and the Wikipedia article itself. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 20:01, May 1, 2019 (EDT)
::Yeah why are the enemy, character, item, etc lists on separate pages? I dont understand [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 20:35, May 1, 2019 (EDT)
:::Also, sometimes Triforce Wiki may have short moments where i implement a feature. If there's an instance where you cannot edit or something doesnt look right on the wiki, chances are it's because i'm either updating the wiki or attempting to implement a feature. There probably won't be that much of it in future--mostly just during set up--there was initially a database when i implemented the WhosOnline code, but it didnt work the way I'd hoped, so I had to remove everything. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 22:39, May 3, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: SMM2 table ==

That's why they're placeholders. They're not supposed to depict the actual sprites from the game. They're temporary until we get the element icons, since they're close enough. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:29, May 9, 2019 (EDT)

== RE:Clowns "and Jesters" ==

I thought about this myself before making the category, but I stuck with the "Clowns and Jesters" name to avoid any discrepancies, especially since jesting/buffoonery is an archaic occupation while clowning is more contemporary. I don't know if "clown" is a suitable umbrella term for "commedia dell'arte" entertainers, and Wikipedia really isn't clear on that. On one hand, the page for {{wp|clown}}ing notes jesters (more specifically, the court jesters/buffoons) as being the "ancestors" of clowns. On the other, their nav template for clowns lists all sorts of comic entertainers like jesters and mimes. {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 09:00, May 11, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Darn this English translation conflation ==

It looks good to me. The only thing I'd change is the meaning of 「デグテール」 (''Degutēru'') as "Big Tail" - as far as I know, approximating "Degu" as "Big" was always a fanmade notion, sort of like saying that "Stal" is supposed to be Hylian for "Skull" or "Skeleton". In reality, it doesn't really mean anything in particular, and there hasn't been any official statement on it. Digdogger is 「デグドガ」 (''Degudoga''), so maybe "Digtail" would be better (not that either of them involve digging)? Maybe also leave the translation of Moldorm the same as the English name as well, since the original Japanese manual [https://legendsoflocalization.com/the-legend-of-zelda/manuals/#instruction-manual-comparison also] officially rendered it as Moldorm. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 01:20, May 12, 2019 (EDT)
:I wasn't even aware of the ''Barcode Battler II'' names, though now I'm wondering if that means Tail and Digtail ought to be Tale and Digtale ("Tail" works but may be a little too plain). In regards to Gohma - I don't have any Japanese materials for ''Twilight Princess'', but quickly looking at [[zeldawiki:Talk:Baby_Gohma|Zelda Wiki]], it appears {{User|Fizzle}} clarified that Young Gohma and Gohma Larva from ''Ocarina of Time'' are one and the same, and an online search indicates that the Japanese name for Baby Gohma is 「ゴーマベビー」 (''Gōma Bebī''), as opposed to Gohma Larva / Young Gohma which is 「幼生ゴーマ」 (''Yōsei Gōma''). Anyway, I suppose our ''Zelda'' discussions are apparently off-topic or disruptive, so I've decided to make an [https://zeldawiki.info/wiki/User:LTL account] on Triforce Wiki. As I say, I don't think I'll be able to make too many edits there for the foreseeable future, but I can check back every so often for anything else ''Zelda''-related. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:40, May 12, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Phantamanta ==

What I'm getting at is that every single guide calls it the "Manta" (Nintendo Power: "manta"), so by our standards, we should be calling it the Manta in ''Super Mario Sunshine''-related content. The ''Mario Golf'' series appearance (or lack thereof) is such a limited presence for a random name on a scoreboard with no image attached. If it was in more significant capacity it'd make perfect sense as the title, but I'm not so sure. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 02:16, May 15, 2019 (EDT)

== [[Special:Diff/2667215]] ==

I made a mistake, i was more focusing on the name than the section. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:48, May 16, 2019 (EDT)

== [[Special:Diff/2672007]] ==

In case you tell me not to, i will not edit snipe your Porcupuffer artwork ripping by any way. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 14:35, May 21, 2019 (EDT)
Well the current one is a .jpg anyway, so... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:40, May 21, 2019 (EDT)

== sorry about zelda wiki ==

Hi, sorry if triforce wiki is having technical problems. I'm trying my best to fix it. thanks [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 14:10, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
:OK, wasn't sure if it was that or the frickhuge storm that I've been experiencing for the past few days. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:28, May 23, 2019 (EDT)
::Alright wiki should be good to edit now [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 15:21, May 23, 2019 (EDT)

== Re: "That's the original SMW because it doesn't look horrendous" ==

Ah, I mixed up ''SMAS+SMW'' (which I didn't even know existed until now) with ''[[Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2]]''. Those images are redundant, and the only difference is that one has Luigi and one Mechakoopa instead of two. They still show off the Koopa Clown Car, even without cropping. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 14:46, May 25, 2019 (EDT)

== A quick question ==

Do i have the permission to ask to {{User|Mister Wu}} for Zen Hyakka scans? Note: Like i said above, i will not edit snipe your croppings no matter what. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:49, June 3, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Dark Tortoise English description ==

Names aren't always representative of what they actually are: for example, ''Kuribō'' isn't a chestnut, Buzzy Beetle isn't a beetle, Power Bee is definitely not a bee, etc. The fact that it's vaguely called a "water monster" in the English description tells me the translators used restaint when they could have easily gone all the way with the localization. Also, saying that it's ''based'' on kappa isn't the same thing as saying that it ''is'' kappa, so... [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:45, June 5, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: This ==

My old screenshot used a buggy graphics plugin. In addition to some bad pixels around the HUD, it makes the images twice as big and not native N64 resolution. I changed to the angrylion plugin, which takes screenshots at native res and is the most accurate. The image still depicts Big Bully, it’s just more accurate to real N64 hardware now. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 12:37, June 12, 2019 (EDT)

== About the email I sent you... ==

Hey there, Doc! Sorry to bother you, but I sent you an email a while back asking you if you could rip some sprites for me. Did you receive it? [[User:Power Flotzo|Power Flotzo]] ([[User talk:Power Flotzo|talk]]) 16:41, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
:I don't know, I can't find it. For the past several weeks, I've been preoccupied with trying to find a job (unsuccessfully). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:48, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
::If it helps, the title of the email was "The Spriters Resource". Its gist was that I wanted you to rip some sprites for all the missing record cases in ''WarioWare Gold'' so that I could use them in preparation for some articles. Would you mind doing that for me? [[User:Power Flotzo|Power Flotzo]] ([[User talk:Power Flotzo|talk]]) 17:03, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
:::Oh, I do not have the ROM for that game or a 3DS emulating program. My current moral standard is "don't emulate anything I don't own past the GBA" anyways. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:29, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*sigh*</nowiki> Well, I guess I'll just start a collaboration thread instead. Thanks anyway. [[User:Power Flotzo|Power Flotzo]] ([[User talk:Power Flotzo|talk]]) 17:36, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

== Super Mario world medal game ==

Would the super Mario world medal game that shadow2 posted happen to be one of borp's finds on arcade coverage on the Mario boards? [[User:Lord Falafel|Lord Falafel]] ([[User talk:Lord Falafel|talk]]) 18:46, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
:I don't know I only check like 7 threads on there. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:57, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

== [[File:Attacky Sack.png|200px]] ==

Just so for you know. The extension has been moved to lowercase, so you can fix it in the header. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:26, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

==Re:Beware the Forest's Mushrooms==
Not sure. The same thing is mentioned in the [[List of Super Smash Bros. Brawl pre-release and unused content#Miscellaneous|list of ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' pre-release and unused content]], but it has a citation needed for claiming that the "most popular theory" is Forest Maze. I do remember that being a thing, though, with some rumors that Geno/Mallow was cut from the game and I think other people pointing out that Yoko Shimomura having worked on both ''Super Mario RPG'' and the ''Mario & Luigi'' series meant that there could have been some negotiation to use the track. Ultimately, it's speculation on cut content from a different series, and I don't know how widespread the idea still is. I'd bring it up on the talk page or ask an admin for an opinion on it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:40, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

== [[Special:Diff/2700772]] ==

It happens, sometimes, at the most unexpected moment. I also got edit conflicted in certain times. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 06:19, June 30, 2019 (EDT)
:Yeah, sorry bout that, I'm just super tired rn. I'll go to sleep now. Anyways, yeah, this was just an article in the NP magazine, which is still an official source, but not a strategy guide or anything. Given that it's ''usually'' called Banzai Bill, if the NP article calls it that, we could probably source priority exception it for that section. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:25, June 30, 2019 (EDT)

== Dr. Peach ==

Sorry that was my fault. I didn't read the entire paragraph deep enough to see it.--[[User:TheGreenBeetle|TheGreenBeetle]] ([[User talk:TheGreenBeetle|talk]]) 15:53, June 30, 2019 (EDT)
:It's OK, but when was "Nurse Peach" used? I don't remember that one? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:56, June 30, 2019 (EDT)
::As far as I know, Nurse Peach never actually appeared in any Dr. Mario games, just illustrations on booklets I think.--[[User:TheGreenBeetle|TheGreenBeetle]] ([[User talk:TheGreenBeetle|talk]]) 20:47, June 30, 2019 (EDT)
:::I mean the ''name''. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:52, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
::::That, I'm not so sure about.--[[User:TheGreenBeetle|TheGreenBeetle]] ([[User talk:TheGreenBeetle|talk]]) 13:23, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
:::::Then I'm going to remove it, as the materials featuring her were quite old. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:07, July 1, 2019 (EDT)

== Mystery House Smash Bros. references ==

As I've mentioned three times now, it's only prevalent in the English version. All other languages (except for European Portuguese) don't even use the "Melee" and "Brawl" terms at all, which is why I said that those references may have been coincidences. Even in Japanese, when both games are labelled "DX" and "X" for Smash Bros. Melee and Brawl, respectively. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 18:38, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
:Who cares? Localizations make their own references all the time. It's like how in the Spanish TTYD, Rawk Hawk mentions ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' by name, which is not in any other translation. Saying "it's coincidence because it's not in the Japanese name" is asinine. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:41, July 1, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Mini Pig Poppo ==

All right, I just confirmed (in the GameCube version at least) that you just bounce off the black ones if you walk into them after stunning with a clap, but you can either clap or jump on top of the white ones to send them in the air, at which point you can bump into them to perform a punch. I guess it's a bit faster to just clap the white ones into the air. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:41, July 4, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: Pokemon Trainer ==

The description only mentions Ash being a Trainer and references the anime theme song. The Trainer in ''Smash'' is Red. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:37, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

== Triforce Wiki comment ==

Hi Doc, I want you to read a message I sent to you on Triforce Wiki. It's a bit important [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 15:34, July 17, 2019 (EDT)

==Unused final boss dialogue from MLSS==
Hey. In case you haven't noticed, when I was checking on Yoshi Magic on the script viewer, I was able to find unused dialogue that seemed like Bowser's soul pleading the Mario Bros. to defeat Cackletta's soul so that he can kidnap Peach (making these words more confirmable that those quotes would've been said by Bowser). Anyways, I tried asking for conformation in [[Talk:List of Bowser quotes|here]], but unfortunately, I felt that just trying to confirm stuff in regular talk pages feels kinda ignorant. I just feel I found something in the game's code that I should list in the unused category. Do you think this is acceptable or should I give in more information?

{{User:MadBird82/sig}} 21:19, 17 July 2019 (EDT)

==recent [[User:Trig Jegman#Terminology|FNC]]==
The file formerly known as '''"Come out to play.png"''' that is used on your userpage has [[:File:SMO Two Maw Rays Screenshot.png|been moved]]. Sincerely, [[User:Trig Jegman|Klonkey Klong]] - 20:26, July 18, 2019 (EDT)

== Re: Lil problem ==

Actually the issue is because i got free dedicated IP address (free with the hosting plan i have) for the wikis they say requires 4 to 12 hours for the DNS to propagate globally or something. i'll try checking tomorrow morning. [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 01:54, July 22, 2019 (EDT)
:Okay, it works now, this time for real [[User:Results May Vary|Results May Vary]] ([[User talk:Results May Vary|talk]]) 10:30, July 22, 2019 (EDT)

== SMAGPB6 Cheep Chomp ==

FYI, the transparent one got deleted, with being reuploaded on the onn-transparent one. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 05:34, July 25, 2019 (EDT)

==Spriters Resource==
===Tilesets===
I saw that you are a member of VG Resource. I don't know if you will accept it, but you could put the [http://www.mediafire.com/file/o7k3awcqyewkp7d/DKC3_%2528sceneries%2529.zip/file DKC3] tilesets on Spriters Resource? Ripped by me. [[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 00:31, 31 July 2019 (EDT)

I had done it, but I don't know how to put the material. I wish someone would give me instructions for this. [[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 12:27, 31 July 2019 (EDT)


There's only one problem. When I did a login correctly, came a warning saying ''You cannot submit to the site.'' [[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 20:41, 31 July 2019 (EDT)

Yes, [https://www.vg-resource.com/user-66434.html here]. [[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 00:21, 1 August 2019 (EDT)

== Re: Recent SM64-based edits ==

Actually, the Amp ''does'' have lips as seen [https://www.mariowiki.com/images/archive/3/3e/20161205225900%21Amp_SM64.png here]. For the Pokey, i'll take a better shot ASAP, I.E., if i find a good shot. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:39, August 3, 2019 (EDT)
:Another note for the Pokey, is that i had a doubt about wether certain emulators have alteration ''other'' than the controls. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:51, August 3, 2019 (EDT)

== Dmcmusiclover ==

Didn't get a closer look at their usernames, thanks. [https://chaikelpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Chaikelpedia_Wiki Further research] shows they're the same user. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 05:46, August 19, 2019 (EDT)

== Chuck Quizmo's final show ==

Hi, long time no see. Before I begin, I'd like to let you know that I watched "The Decayer App" (I just now experienced nirvana and figured out that its name is a corruption of "DK Rap") and couldn't stop laughing, and I've shared it with some of my friends. I hope you've also been getting your fix of YouTube Poops. I recommend you watch "Grandma Dies by a Reindeer v2.0" by Trudermark. He's a pretty consistently funny creator although he's not as active these days. A lot of his YTPs contain music or other references to the Paper Mario games, which is nice.

Also, Idk if it's just me, but every time I play through Paper Mario and get all of Chuck Quizmo's questions right, the last quiz is held on Star Haven. Is there any way to actually verify that? Does anyone know his algorithm? Hmmm... [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 23:09, August 19, 2019 (EDT)
:I mean I suppose playing through the game and seeing would be the best way, it's been a while since I've played through that. Also good to hear. Anyways right now I'm readjusting to college, so not sure how effective I'll be on here for the time being. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 04:59, August 20, 2019 (EDT)
::Law school is wrecking me as well so I understand. Good luck! [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|Blue Ninjakoopa]] ([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|talk]]) 13:07, August 21, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Stamp file names ==

Funny you should ask, I was planning to tell you after I could see if I can check a few other names. Unfortunately, my hunch was off: <tt>content/Heri2/cmn/miiverse/HankoTgaUSEU.zlarc/Hanko_SMB3_PukupukuBig.tga</tt> (and I can confirm it's the same in ''NES Remix Pack'' as well). So, other things of note is that it also refers to the Big Koopa Troopa with <tt>Hanko_SMB3_NokonokoBig.tga</tt> and, checking ''Ultimate NES Remix'' for 3DS, refers to Big Goomba with <tt>0000.00000000/romfs/emu/Crsm/SMB3_ATK_BIGKURIBO01_W4_1_SUPERMARIO.Crsm</tt> and Sledge Bro with <tt>SMB3_M_ATK_FATBROS_W4.Crsm</tt> (I assume these files are basically the same but the compression is different). My first thought is that "Big" was referring to the updated ''Deka'' names of the enemies, but after seeing a translation of Sledge Bro's old Japanese name, I think they're just translating ''Kyodai'' that way instead of "Giant", or it's just shorter and simpler for them to do so. Then again, there does seem to be a slight mix of new and regional names in the 3DS directory, like the odd reference to <tt>PARTHENA</tt> / <tt>ICARUS</tt>, <tt>BUBBLE</tt> / <tt>PODOBOO</tt>, and <tt>SHADOWLINK</tt> in filenames (also localized <tt>HORSEHEAD</tt>, <tt>HELMETHEAD</tt>, and <tt>BARBA</tt>). The game text itself does use most modern names where applicable (e.g. referring to Pauline instead of Lady, at least in the English translation), but as far as I'm aware, the fish isn't directly named anywhere else. So unless a more substantial connection comes along, I'm afraid there's not much to add to the topic for now. (I did have half a mind to bring up English ''Encyclopedia'' in the merge proposal, but that would have really opened up a can of worms.) [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:00, August 30, 2019 (EDT)
:I forgot that Boss Bass was also a predecessor of sorts to the modern Big Cheep Cheep, so that could also explain <tt>PukupukuBig</tt>. Still, I think that's a harder sell for merging than with Cheep Chomp, though - remember, Big Bertha and Bubba were reorganized after previous attempts. Though don't let that discourage you if you intend to make a new proposal. I just want to poke around a bit more to see if I can find more evidence before bringing up the idea of reproposing. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:13, August 30, 2019 (EDT)
:That reminds me, you wanted to incorporate the ''Yoshi's Story'' Blurp into one of these pages as well. You can point out the fact that in addition to being generically referred to as a ''Pukupuku'' elsewhere in the game (misread as ''Buku Buku'', Blurp, in English), the Japanese [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG3cjOcbQpk&t=6m30s Message Block header] describes them as 「おおきな　プクプク」 (''Ōkina Pukupuku'', "Large Cheep Cheep"), and the [[:File:CheepCheepMKSC.png|''Super Circuit'' design]] is effectively an edited version of the Blurp sprite. Actually, it'd help support the idea that such an evolution took place (that and Bubba and a same-sized ''Yoshi's Story'' fish appear together in ''Mario Golf'', which would work against merging the Blurp with Cheep Chomp). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:38, August 31, 2019 (EDT)
::We'd probably need guide references to be absolutely sure about it, but I'm leaning towards considering the background ones Big Blurps, since given the distance they seem much larger than the one that appears in the same game's awards ceremony. I'm not completely sure about the ''Mario Golf'' Cheep Cheep since the general shape and shared size with Bubba suggests to me that it's Big Blurp, but it seems likelier in retrospect that [[Mario Golf (Nintendo 64)#Mario.27s Star Holes|Mario's Star Hole]] depicts an average Cheep Cheep given the entire lineup represents more traditional elements, so the simpler explanation might be that Bubba was just shrunken to a regular Cheep Cheep's size in that game. Do you think these look closer to the ''Yoshi's Story'' Cheep Cheep or Big Blurp? The one in ''Mario Kart DS'' is definitely ''Bakubaku'' as confirmed by the filename, but I agree with the ''Mario Kart 64'' one as Boss Bass for now. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:38, September 18, 2019 (EDT)
:::So the eye designs of both the ''Super Circuit'' background ones and the ''Mario Golf'' ones are closer to the basic ''Yoshi's Story'' Cheep Cheep. How about their general body shape? It might be just be me, but due to the in-game sprite compression in ''Yoshi's Story'', it seems like regular Cheep Cheeps proportionally have shorter body length as well as a shorter dorsal fin that isn't any higher than the eyes like the big variant. If we take that into account, then it looks like the Cheep Cheeps of these games are all based on Big Blurp, but again, it could just be that the regular Cheep Cheep's sprites were originally shrunken at an off size, which would also explain why the eyes seem a bit different. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:19, September 18, 2019 (EDT)
::::SmokedChili admittedly brings up a good point about the text box spacing, so I'd hold off on that until further notice, although I agree with the Message Block at least describing the same exact role. In the meantime, I believe we can go ahead with moving the ''Mario Kart 64'', ''Mario Golf'', and ''Super Circuit'' appearances. I also want to say that, while I currently believe the "Boss Bass" from ''Yoshi's Island DS'' to be a localization change, there is one loose end in that I have yet to check that game's filename. To be honest, {{User|Mister Wu}} or {{User|Hiccup}} might be the ones to ask right now. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:39, September 19, 2019 (EDT)
:::::It could be meant in a general sense, like the name of Blurps / ''Pukupuku'' in ''Yoshi's Story'' being shared with Cheep Cheeps, or that ''Super Mario Maker 2'' [[River Fish in the Forest#Description|course]] that describes Cheep Cheeps but doesn't actually have regular Cheep Cheeps in it. That, or the background artist just wasn't conscious about its size. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:18, September 19, 2019 (EDT)
::::::I guess, technically, but that makes it incongruent with the Red Blurp and Blue Blurp names, so I'd maybe get some consensus first. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:43, September 19, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::If ''Mario Golf'' info is moved out of the article, then ''Super Circuit'' info can alternatively be merged with Big Cheep Cheep, with the rationale that the Blurp article contains Red Blurp and Blue Blurp's appearance together. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 21:06, September 19, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::I think the simplest explanation is that the title ''Cheep-Cheep'' Island was meant broadly instead of intended as the name of that specific Cheep Cheep, though if we're taking designs into account, the ''Mario Kart 64'' appearance can probably be considered a Big Cheep Cheep instead of Boss Bass until a merge happens. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 01:06, September 20, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::It is <tt>big_pukupuku</tt> in ''New Super Mario Bros.'', <tt>pukupuku_large</tt> in ''New Super Mario Bros. 2'', <tt>e_dekapukupuku</tt> and <tt>e_dekapukupuku02</tt> in ''Paper Mario: Sticker Star'', and is seemingly shared with <tt>pukupuku</tt> in ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' and ''New Super Mario Bros. U''. Oddly enough, ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' does not separately list appearances of Big Cheep Cheep after ''New Super Mario Bros.'' (even though Big Deep Cheep has its own entry for ''New Super Mario Bros. 2''), which may be connected to them sharing the same files and having a reduced size in the console games. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 02:10, September 20, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::I've said this earlier, but given the presence of Fat Bros. in ''Ultimate NES Remix'', it's entirely possible that the ''Super Mario Bros. 3''-related filenames from ''NES Remix 2'' simply rendered ''Kyodai'' as "Big", so it may not be as conclusive as thought. Something I noticed recently is that Cheep Chomp is described as 「巨大なプクプク」 [[media:SMP_page_62_excerpt.png|here]], which seems like a reference to Boss Bass. While the game listings in ''Super Mario Pia'' are questionable, I've no reason to doubt the actual descriptions so far, so I've asked Mister Wu if there are more profiles that consider Cheep Chomp to be a giant-sized Cheep Cheep. I'd hold off on moving ''Mario Golf'' info, because if Cheep Chomps are supposed to be giant Cheep Cheeps and they're the same size as the game's Cheep Cheeps (actually slightly smaller), that could change things. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 03:27, September 20, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::::You sure? I checked ''Super Mario 64 DS'', and Cheep Cheep looks smaller than Cheep Chomp there at least, though it's possible that it was resized later. Seems like an odd thing to change. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:36, September 20, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::::Cheep Cheep's pretty big in ''Super Mario 64 DS'' as well, but as [[:File:CheepCheepsm64ds.png|seen]] [[:File:BigBerthaDS.png|here]], Cheep Chomp looks quite a bit bigger when next to Mario (even with its mouth closed). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 19:50, September 20, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::::::I can confirm it's not perspective: via SM64DSe, I added Cheep Cheep to Tiny-Huge Island and did a side-by-side comparison with Cheep Chomp, and there is definitely a noticeable size difference when they are shown next to each other as [https://i.imgur.com/70IMnUY.png seen here] (Cheep Cheep is in front of Cheep Chomp). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:45, September 21, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Maybe. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the N64 editors are as robust at a glance, and I don't know of any model rips to directly compare quicky. So in lieu of that, we'll have to roughly compare how it looks in N64 gameplay compared to the DS version. I was pretty sure that the article was referring to the enemy AI, though I don't remember it being particularly different. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 01:18, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Nevermind, I found that Toad's Tool 64 gives me similar results. While Cheep Cheep's graphics apparently weren't intended to appear in Tiny-Huge Island, the yellow box on top of Cheep Chomp is its collision data in the preview [https://imgur.com/3ix0eZK.png here], so the size changed very little if at all. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:48, September 23, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::It's certainly possible they had ''Buku Buku'' in mind when naming ''Bakubaku'', give they (were) both ''Pukupuku'' derivatives with eyewear. I have my own speculation too - perhaps the reason why Cheep Chomp only makes a cameo in ''Super Mario Maker 2'' is as part of a self-aware development gag since its attributes directly went to Porcupuffer, almost as if it's thinking, "hey, shouldn't I be an enemy in this game instead?" Since Porcupuffer was basically a Big Cheep Cheep in ''3D Land''/''World'', its behavior necessitated a change, and they probably opted to leave Cheep Chomp out of the other styles in an effort to make the ''Super Mario 3D World'' style more unique (regrettable since it might've made a decision on this more clear-cut, but there's always DLC or the next game). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:38, September 23, 2019 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::Well, Porky or no Pokey, Mister Wu got back to me about ''Yoshi's Island DS'' and it seems that, going off audio files so far, the game does definitively consider it to be BakuBaku... I can't think of anything else possibly of interest to check at this point. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:45, September 27, 2019 (EDT)

== Undergrunt ==

The image that you just moved to [[:File:SMG Undergrunt angry.png]] is a new image that I just uploaded to replace [[:File:SMG Undergrunt Angry.jpg]], the one you originally put back in the article a few hours ago. These are different images, and in the new one, the Undergrunt is not angry, hence the move to the more accurate filename after I mistakenly uploaded the new file to the old filename. You are correct, it's the Deep Dark Galaxy, not the Drip Drop Galaxy. No, this was not me getting back at you for undoing my previous edit. This was me understanding my mistake from earlier and uploading a new file that properly depicts the Undergrunt, albeit not an angry one. As it stands, [[:File:SMG Undergrunt angry.png]] is an inaccurate name for the new file, and [[:File:SMG Deep Dark Undergrunt Gunner.png]] is a possible correct name. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 22:03, September 3, 2019 (EDT)
:Fair enough. I'll get a picture of an angry Undergrunt. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 22:08, September 3, 2019 (EDT)

== What counts as a boss in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate? ==

A very similar message was previously posted on Alex95's talk page, but I'm posting here too. Now, here's my reasonings on what counts and doesn't count as a boss in Smash Bros. Ultimate:
#Giga Bowser, Galleom, Dharkon, Galeem, Marx, Dracula, Master Hand, Crazy Hand, Rathalos and Ganon have health bars at the top of the screen, which aren't the same as damage percentages or the Stamina mode health bars.
#The above bosses don't have the announcer say "Ready? Go!" at the start of the battle. This only applies to regular character encounters, which the Giant Donkey Kong and Palutena and the Metal Mario encounters are. This also applies for Mega Man's final round to a lesser extent.
#The "so-called" bosses at the end of Classic Mode (those being a Giant Donkey Kong, a Giant Palutena and a Metal Mario) have '''''none of these things.''''' Not only that, they just use a permanent Super Mushroom or Metal Box, just like other opponents found in other character's Classic Modes (like Kirby fighting a Giant Yoshi and a Giant Wario or the Dragon Quest Hero fighting a Giant Charizard after defeating Robin for his final round).
#Not to mention, those "so-called" bosses aren't treated differently by the game '''''at all.''''' They are treated the same as a regular playable character before the battle begins. For example, in Kirby's Classic Mode, he has to fight a Giant Yoshi in Round 2 and a Giant Wario in Round 4. Before the battles, there's nothing that indicates the opponents are going to be giant-sized until after it starts. Same with the "so-called" bosses (although in Bowser's case, the Metal-Boxed Mario spawns after the regular Mario is defeated).
#In the same point, your reasoning is flawed. "They're bosses." No, they're not. If the game does not treat them as such and treats them like a playable character in a Mega or Metal Smash in Custom Smash, then they '''''don't count as bosses under any circumstance.''''' If every giant or metal rival in Classic Mode was a boss, then '''''every single one fought in that mode would be on the template when in actuality, the bosses with health bars at the top of the screen should be the only ones on there in the first place.'''''
#The actual bosses in Classic Mode, depending on which character is selected, are not always fought for the final round. Some characters fight the boss before the final round (Mega Man, Bowser and the Hero come to mind); the actual final round for some characters is against a regular character or two regular characters, one after another (Bowser, Mega Man, Jigglypuff and Bayonetta come to mind there too).

Those are my reasonings as to why Giga Bowser, Galleom, Dharkon, Galeem, Marx, Dracula, Master Hand, Crazy Hand, Rathalos and Ganon are considered bosses and why Giant DK, Giant Palutena and Metal Mario should '''''not be considered bosses.''''' &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 13:31, September 7, 2019 (EDT)
:I noticed you did that. But what I mostly noticed is that you undid Alex's edits ''before'' posting that on there, which you by all accounts should ''not'' have done. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:09, September 7, 2019 (EDT)

== Regarding [[Talk:Snake (Yoshi's Story)|the Yoshi's Story snake TPP]] ==

Hello. If you're seeing this, I've updated the proposal with another option and tried to neaten/clarify things a bit more, and I'm sending you and other voters this message in order to inform you of the changes, as courtesy dictates (and especially if you might want to change your vote). Thank you and good day. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 00:04, September 10, 2019 (EDT)

== Re:Wiggler ==

Well it's a page that mentions Wiggler in the ''Super Mario World'' section, but it's a completely different description, and wouldn't even fit in the box anyway. It almost seems like a parody of {{User|Goolgenerade}} too. I'd say pics or it didn't happen. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:08, September 11, 2019 (EDT)

== RE: singular subjects ==

Technically, no, "Nintendo of America" can never be used as a plural subject referring to all individual members within it. By the same token, "group", "audience", and "board of directors" are all singular subjects (so "The group walk together" is incorrect; "The group walks together" is correct. "The audience claps when the show ends." "The Board of Directors is a very refined group of individuals.") In order to make it a plural subject, you would have to say "the employees of Nintendo of America" or something similar. ("The group members walk together." "The audience members clap when the show ends." "The members of the Board of Directors are very refined individuals.") In casual conversation, it really doesn't matter, but as an encyclopedia, MarioWiki should always strive for excellence in its articles. (Alternatively: the members of MarioWiki should always strive for excellence in their articles.) [[Special:Contributions/208.95.51.51|208.95.51.51]] 16:55, September 13, 2019 (EDT)

==Reason==
The selfish part of the rule was: ''If you can't handle certain subject matter being professionally addressed on the wiki, that's your problem, not ours'' in '''try to impose their personal beliefs and moral values on the wiki and its users.'''

[[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 16:07, September 21, 2019 (EDT)

DO YOU THINK CORRECT PUT THIS KIND OF STUFF IN PUBLIC CONTENT?!!

Maybe it's for franchise wiki types for mature rating. I don't omit that, exist these sites.

[[User:ChristopherPAraujo|ChristopherPAraujo]] ([[User talk:ChristopherPAraujo|talk]]) 16:07, September 21, 2019 (EDT)
:Yes. People swear all the time, in public too. Yes, swearing can '''sometimes'' be used for offensive purposes. But swearing can also be used to express yourself, such as in frustration where "agh" isn't suitable. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 16:43, September 21, 2019 (EDT)

==[[User:Trig Jegman#Terminology|FNC]]==
The file formerly known as Blooperghoul.png has been moved to [[:File:SMS Blooper Artwork.png]]. It is used on [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick/Projects|your project page]]. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:30, September 24, 2019 (EDT)
:The same applies to File:Cheep-Cheep Sunshine Art.png, which is now [[:File:Cheep Cheep Sunshine Art.png]]. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 17:34, September 24, 2019 (EDT)
::But they was called Cheep-Cheeps with a hyphen then.... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:36, September 24, 2019 (EDT)
:::I was probably in the wrong with cheep hyphen cheep, but not with [[:File:LM Unused Bad Ending Model.png]] being the new LM-Endingbad.png [[User:Trig Jegman|guess who]] - 21:51, September 26, 2019 (EDT)
::::Except it's not a model, it's a prerendered sprite. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:12, September 26, 2019 (EDT)

== Image sources ==

There was actually talks a while back in admin discussion about making the source mandatory (basically if there's no source they get put up for deletion), but I'm on board with this idea. Though instead of a gallery, my suggestion would be tagging them with something like <nowiki>{{image source}}</nowiki> which then stores them into {{fake link|Category:Image source needed}} (unless that's what you meant). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:06, September 27, 2019 (EDT)

:I got that part, I was suggesting a category instead of a gallery. Though the Ninji one seems to have come from Nintendo Power according to its article. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:47, September 27, 2019 (EDT)

==Re:garding the snakes==
I'm not familiar with how the Japanese ''Super Mario Advance'' manual organizes the enemy info, but I do know that the ending cast roll of all versions uses the western ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' names, and game materials used transliterations accompanying the previous names (Cobra[t] is one of the handful that isn't really a precise match, along with Bob-omb and Albatoss). I imagine there are probably some Japanese fans nostalgic for the English-made, ''Mario''-originated names, and that might very well include the ''Super Mario Ball'' developers. In that game, the enemy looks pretty much exactly like a green 3D render of the original 2D sprite, so I find it unlikely that the design and name would be a coincidence. The projectile seems like it would be fairly obvious to include, but it could just be that it did not match the game design (same with the ''Mario Kart'' appearance, which looks even less like the original Cobrat but is almost undoubtedly a reference given the context, likely to both versions). Overall, I don't think the reason to split the page is sufficient, especially since it can be argued to split it three ways for similar reasons. As for Bumbler, it's similar but has several key differences - note the antennae, Zinger-like eyes, shoes and stinger - and like the old ''Batton'' / Enigma debate, I don't think it ''can'' legally be the same because I'm fairly certain Square Enix owns all or most of the content new to ''Super Mario RPG''. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:45, September 27, 2019 (EDT)
:Pokey and Shy Guy have had their ''Doki Doki Panic'' names well established as series standard by then, whereas Cobrat hadn't appeared in any other game except re-releases, so someone on the development team could have been allowed to take liberties. Actually, now that I look into it, the main developers of ''Super Mario Ball'' were actually British, so the entire reason it became the "western" Cobra in Japanese might have been as a joking reference to the fact that it's also a western-developed game. Snake, on the other hand, could just be chalked up to one of several one-off names by Nintendo Power. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:15, September 27, 2019 (EDT)

== Pauline's new render. ==

I noticed you changed Pauline's render on the Super Mario page back to Odyssey and you commented "Why an image from a Mario Kart game?" But isn't Daisy's render from a Mario Kart game as well????