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| == RE: Trivia == | | == RE: Trivia == |
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| It's not that trivia is outlawed on the wiki, it's just where possible we do try to [[MarioWiki:Notes|incorporate trivia]] into the main body of the article. I do apologise if my summary came off bad or rude towards you. Personally, I felt the ''Super Mario RPG'' part fitted well in the intro, hence why I thought it should stay there. But in all honesty, the second point probably is better of as a trivia point. {{User|Yoshi876}} | | It's not that trivia is outlawed on the wiki, it's just where possible we do try to [[MarioWiki:Trivia|incorporate trivia]] into the main body of the article. I do apologise if my summary came off bad or rude towards you. Personally, I felt the ''Super Mario RPG'' part fitted well in the intro, hence why I thought it should stay there. But in all honesty, the second point probably is better of as a trivia point. {{User|Yoshi876}} |
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| In regards to [[MarioWiki:Proposals#What_to_do_about_Paper_Jam_Shiny_articles|this proposal]], may I ask why you support giving the paper enemies separate articles but not the shiny enemies? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:58, 15 September 2017 (EDT) | | In regards to [[MarioWiki:Proposals#What_to_do_about_Paper_Jam_Shiny_articles|this proposal]], may I ask why you support giving the paper enemies separate articles but not the shiny enemies? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:58, 15 September 2017 (EDT) |
| :May I ask why splitting the shiny variants would be too much? Keep in mind we have already split pages like [[Gritty Goomba (Gwarhar Lagoon)|Gritty Goomba]] and [[Gritty Goomba (Teehee Valley)|Gritty Goomba]], among others, due to the two species having different appearances and different stats. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:03, 15 September 2017 (EDT) | | :May I ask why splitting the shiny variants would be too much? Keep in mind we have already split pages like [[Gritty Goomba (Gwarhar Lagoon)|Gritty Goomba]] and [[Gritty Goomba (Teehee Valley)|Gritty Goomba]], among others, due to the two species having different appearances and different stats. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:03, 15 September 2017 (EDT) |
| ::We don't necessarily need a monolithic, set-in-stone policy page to decide how things work; a policy page won't be able to cover every single nuance in the games, especially as the franchise comes up with new ideas and throws new gimmicks at us. At the same time, through proposals like these, we can create a precedent that can then be followed for future articles. Proposals give us freedom that a policy page may not give us. With that in mind, we've already had proposals that decided to [[Talk:Gritty_Goomba_(Gwarhar_Lagoon)#Merge_Gritty_Goomba_.28Gwarhar_Lagoon.29_with_Gritty_Goomba_.28Teehee_Valley.29|'''not''' merge the Gritty Goombas]] and [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/37#Merge_Dream_Team_enemies.27_articles_with_their_.22R.22_version|'''not''' merge the "R" version of enemies]], so I don't see why this should be any different. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:13, 15 September 2017 (EDT) | | ::We don't necessarily need a monolithic, set-in-stone policy page to decide how things work; a policy page won't be able to cover every single nuance in the games, especially as the franchise comes up with new ideas and throws new gimmicks at us. At the same time, through proposals like these, we can create a precedent that can then be followed for future articles. Proposals give us freedom that a policy page may not give us. With that in mind, we've already had proposals that decided to [[Talk:Gritty_Goomba_(Gwarhar_Lagoon)#Merge_Gritty_Goomba_.28Gwarhar_Lagoon.29_with_Gritty_Goomba_.28Teehee_Valley.29|'''not''' merge the Gritty Goombas]] and [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_37#Merge_Dream_Team_enemies.27_articles_with_their_.22R.22_version|'''not''' merge the "R" version of enemies]], so I don't see why this should be any different. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:13, 15 September 2017 (EDT) |
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| I've been helping to enact your proposal for you. Many things are tagged for deletion, but hopefully this will help clear up to everyone what will be "pruned" from the wiki and what won't. Assist Trophy and Final Smash pages now have only ''Super Mario'' content, and the list pages have all of the ''Smash Bros.'' content (plus, I updated all of the redirects to the list pages accordingly). [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 17:59, April 12, 2024 (EDT) | | I've been helping to enact your proposal for you. Many things are tagged for deletion, but hopefully this will help clear up to everyone what will be "pruned" from the wiki and what won't. Assist Trophy and Final Smash pages now have only ''Super Mario'' content, and the list pages have all of the ''Smash Bros.'' content (plus, I updated all of the redirects to the list pages accordingly). [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 17:59, April 12, 2024 (EDT) |
| : Wait, this is in regards to the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/65#Trim or remove various Smash franchise-specific subcategories|proposal about categories, correct]]? (''To be fair''--we meant to run proposals on slimming down the Final Smash page in particular, and we might do it for Assist Trophies as well. But the first proposal was specifically about the various "<x> series" categories being inundated with redirects to the exact same few List pages.) {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 19:45, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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| :: Yes, it was that proposal of yours. I slimmed down the [[Assist Trophy]] and [[Final Smash]] articles to cover only ''Super Mario'' content, while [[List of Assist Trophy characters]] and [[List of Final Smashes]] has all of the content on it. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 19:53, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::: Listen, we're tired, so maybe we're just misunderstanding, but if we have things right, uh, we might have a problem. The proposal was specifically about the categories listed in the proposal, and specifically, removing the various redirect articles from those categories (e.g. removing the [[Bonus Fruit]] redirect link from the [[:Category:Pac-Man series]] category) or, in the case of some categories that were either majority or all redirects, wiping the category clean (e.g. removing all of the instances of the [[:Category:Fatal Fury series]] category and, by proxy, wiping its description as it no longer has a use). In essence, the proposal was to clean up ''categories'', not the articles themselves--that was something we planned to hold a vote on later. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 20:03, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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| :::: I didn't tag any articles for deletion, only the redirects and a few disambiguation pages not concerning the ''Super Mario'' franchise at all (e.g. Thunder Jolt). [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 20:10, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::::: To state this in clearer terms--no ''articles'' should be deleted, so at least that's true. However, the categories mentioned as exceptions in that Proposal (Duck Hunt, Fire Emblem, Metroid, Kid Icarus, Pikmin, Punch-Out!!, Star Fox, Animal Crossing, Dragon Quest, Game & Watch, Final Fantasy, Ice Climber, The Legend of Zelda, Pac-Man, Rhythm Heaven, Sonic the Hedgehog, Splatoon, and Street Fighter) should've had all the redirects/disambiguations in them lose the Series categories, while all the redirects within the categories that were ''not'' exceptions (so, every other Category mentioned in the proposal's opening that wasn't a part of that list) should've had ''all'' articles that mention its category lose the category, and wipe the now-orphaned category description. The [[Final Smash]] and [[Assist Trophy]] articles were not mentioned in the proposal, thus, they shouldn't have been touched at all--not yet, anyways. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 20:18, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
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| == What was the main page design idea that you had? ==
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| I think you said you wanted to show in Paint.NET how you envisioned the explore/navigate cells looking in the proposed main page design. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 23:57, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Ah, shoot, it slipped our mind entirely. The past few days, we've kinda been tied up in something. (For today, it's mostly been wrestling a nasty tooth cavity.) We'd like to hopefully get around to it before the proposal ends, but admittedly, it's a pretty low priority for us... {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 01:05, May 21, 2024 (EDT)
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| I think I'm going to stop doing ''Smash Bros.'' proposals, since you and the community here seem to have a better idea on how to handle ''Smash'' coverage.
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| Was going to say (and this is not at all directed at you) that the argument of "I don't like this wiki" (which I've seen someone say about SmashWiki in a proposal) should NEVER be an excuse to keep loosely or entirely unrelated content. It's also selfish when considering that are more dedicated wikis that could really use the help with such content, especially NintendoWiki, and the right course of action was moving the Memory Card page over to there. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 14:32, June 5, 2024 (EDT)
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| ==Vandal interactions==
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| Hey, thanks for reverting the vandal, but please don't talk to them in the summaries with insults. This is from someone on last warn for making this mistake; just leave the edit summary blank. {{User:Somethingone/sig}} 17:07, June 7, 2024 (EDT)
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| :Aye, fair enough. <s>though also, admittedly, we doubt many people are going to swing to bat at a vandal that made exactly 4 edits,</s> {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 17:08, June 7, 2024 (EDT)
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| ::Yah, just affirming what Somethingone said. But no worries, either of you. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:29, June 7, 2024 (EDT)
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| == ''Superstar Saga'' gear ==
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| Nintendo101 showed me that the PRIMA guide tells where everything is found [https://archive.org/details/marioluigisuperstarsagaofficialplayersguide_201912/page/n125/mode/2up on these pages]. Granted, they might incorrectly say some unused things are unobtainable, but I see no reason not to assume the "found at the store at this specific point" ones are accurate. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:34, January 25, 2025 (EST)
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| :Thanks for the pointer, much appreciated! If you have a similar guide for the remake, that would also be nice; the remake is surprisingly under-documented, it turns out, which is what spurred this whole thing for us. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 15:38, January 25, 2025 (EST)
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| ::The gear page for the remake is actually pretty well-described on that front, last I checked. I don't believe an official guide was made for it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:52, January 25, 2025 (EST)
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| Is the Claire in this group my best friend? -Rowan ([[User:XXMeta KnightmareXX|XXMeta KnightmareXX]] ([[User talk:XXMeta KnightmareXX|talk]]) 14:34, February 17, 2025 (EST))
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| Hey. So, I noticed you said you wanted ''WarioWare Gold'' souvenir groups to have articles. I could create a Studio Sessions article, but I don't want to step on your work if you're doing it. Should I go ahead and start planning such an article? [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 16:12, March 1, 2025 (EST)
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| :Go right on ahead! We've mostly been focusing off-and-on on the Game & Wario prizes ourselves, and our hope is to one day have proper parity for all the souvenir-likes; this would be a step in the right direction for that! {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 16:41, March 1, 2025 (EST)
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| == Your recent edit to your comment on my proposal ==
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| I think y'all had it right the first time — in its current state, it's pitching four colors, two of which are for poll proposals that have concluded. I think "partially concluded, partially ongoing" was one phrase in the first version of that comment, but the use of a comma made it a little confusing. [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 15:36, March 5, 2025 (EST)
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| :Ah. Admittedly, it was a little unclear to us on re-read, so we felt it was important to try to clarify, but evidently that didn't quite work out. Apologies. ^^; {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 17:08, March 5, 2025 (EST)
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| Hi, Camwoodstock, Tori, Cecil and Claire. I wanted to reach out to you guys here to touch base on the fact that there five of your passed proposals are [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Unimplemented proposals|unimplemented]], and while one of them seems to be a larger project, the other four seem smaller and straight-forward. Do you think you can get to these soon? Would you like any help? - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 12:51, March 8, 2025 (EST)
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| :We'd appreciate the help, yes; usually, when we make a proposal like the Ink Bomb split or the Wiggler Farm merge, it's because there's a potential large change we've noticed (usually due to a maintenance template that's been sitting there for ''months'') for a game that we aren't quite as knowledgeable on, but there's a glaringly obvious fix waiting for someone more capable to help implement. Even though we're admittedly no experts on Bowser's Fury would gladly assist in any way we can, though. The ''G&W'' Cluck-A-Pop prizes and ''M&L'' Accessories are the big targets for us at the moment, though again, if you have anything to add to them, please do so. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 13:01, March 8, 2025 (EST)
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| Hi! I just wanted to confirm that my recent proposal to move about 11,000 bytes of the lists of references in first and third party games over to a list of references in pre-release and unused content will not interfere with any potential future splits. To use an A-M/N-Z split as an example, such a split would still be possible post-move, just minus the 11,000 bytes. [[User:Nelsonic|Nelsonic]] ([[User talk:Nelsonic|talk]]) 22:28, April 2, 2025 (EDT)
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| :That's what we assumed, given what was already said during the proposal, but good to know! {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 22:32, April 2, 2025 (EDT)
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| Can I try adding more information to [[User:Camwoodstock/Mario Factory]]? [[User:Fox de Quintal|Fox de Quintal]] ([[User talk:Fox de Quintal|talk]]) 00:53, April 18, 2025 (EDT)
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| :Depends on what that information is, and more importantly, where it's sourced from. (To be honest, if your additions are coming from an AI, we would say no; we are ''extremely'' skeptical of basically anything an AI says on principle, given its penchant to hallucinate information from sources that don't actually exist anywhere. With a subject as obscure and undocumented as the Game Processor, where most of its information that's actually accessible to the public coming from old expired patents, it is exceptionally vulnerable to something like an AI gumming things up and causing misinformation to run rampant.) {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 01:13, April 18, 2025 (EDT)
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