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== RE: Trivia ==
== RE: Trivia ==


It's not that trivia is outlawed on the wiki, it's just where possible we do try to [[MarioWiki:Notes|incorporate trivia]] into the main body of the article. I do apologise if my summary came off bad or rude towards you. Personally, I felt the ''Super Mario RPG'' part fitted well in the intro, hence why I thought it should stay there. But in all honesty, the second point probably is better of as a trivia point. {{User|Yoshi876}}
It's not that trivia is outlawed on the wiki, it's just where possible we do try to [[MarioWiki:Trivia|incorporate trivia]] into the main body of the article. I do apologise if my summary came off bad or rude towards you. Personally, I felt the ''Super Mario RPG'' part fitted well in the intro, hence why I thought it should stay there. But in all honesty, the second point probably is better of as a trivia point. {{User|Yoshi876}}


== RE: Spotlight ==
== RE: Spotlight ==
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In regards to [[MarioWiki:Proposals#What_to_do_about_Paper_Jam_Shiny_articles|this proposal]], may I ask why you support giving the paper enemies separate articles but not the shiny enemies? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:58, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
In regards to [[MarioWiki:Proposals#What_to_do_about_Paper_Jam_Shiny_articles|this proposal]], may I ask why you support giving the paper enemies separate articles but not the shiny enemies? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:58, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
:May I ask why splitting the shiny variants would be too much? Keep in mind we have already split pages like [[Gritty Goomba (Gwarhar Lagoon)|Gritty Goomba]] and [[Gritty Goomba (Teehee Valley)|Gritty Goomba]], among others, due to the two species having different appearances and different stats. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:03, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
:May I ask why splitting the shiny variants would be too much? Keep in mind we have already split pages like [[Gritty Goomba (Gwarhar Lagoon)|Gritty Goomba]] and [[Gritty Goomba (Teehee Valley)|Gritty Goomba]], among others, due to the two species having different appearances and different stats. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:03, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
::We don't necessarily need a monolithic, set-in-stone policy page to decide how things work; a policy page won't be able to cover every single nuance in the games, especially as the franchise comes up with new ideas and throws new gimmicks at us. At the same time, through proposals like these, we can create a precedent that can then be followed for future articles. Proposals give us freedom that a policy page may not give us. With that in mind, we've already had proposals that decided to [[Talk:Gritty_Goomba_(Gwarhar_Lagoon)#Merge_Gritty_Goomba_.28Gwarhar_Lagoon.29_with_Gritty_Goomba_.28Teehee_Valley.29|'''not''' merge the Gritty Goombas]] and [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/37#Merge_Dream_Team_enemies.27_articles_with_their_.22R.22_version|'''not''' merge the "R" version of enemies]], so I don't see why this should be any different. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:13, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
::We don't necessarily need a monolithic, set-in-stone policy page to decide how things work; a policy page won't be able to cover every single nuance in the games, especially as the franchise comes up with new ideas and throws new gimmicks at us. At the same time, through proposals like these, we can create a precedent that can then be followed for future articles. Proposals give us freedom that a policy page may not give us. With that in mind, we've already had proposals that decided to [[Talk:Gritty_Goomba_(Gwarhar_Lagoon)#Merge_Gritty_Goomba_.28Gwarhar_Lagoon.29_with_Gritty_Goomba_.28Teehee_Valley.29|'''not''' merge the Gritty Goombas]] and [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_37#Merge_Dream_Team_enemies.27_articles_with_their_.22R.22_version|'''not''' merge the "R" version of enemies]], so I don't see why this should be any different. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:13, 15 September 2017 (EDT)


== Tips for Proposal ==
== Tips for Proposal ==
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Seeing as you have improved most of the characters stories in the [[WWIMM]] article (Good job), I probably might suggest you to improve some of the wario ware characters article paragraphs; I recall you having a replay of the WWIMM game. {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 06:11, May 8, 2023 (EDT)
Seeing as you have improved most of the characters stories in the [[WWIMM]] article (Good job), I probably might suggest you to improve some of the wario ware characters article paragraphs; I recall you having a replay of the WWIMM game. {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 06:11, May 8, 2023 (EDT)
:Thank you very much! We might take a stab at it at some point, but for now, though, we've already got enough on our plate with the MMG article itself, alongside a few other things (mostly proposal related), so that'd probably be something we go after later. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 10:26, May 8, 2023 (EDT)
:Thank you very much! We might take a stab at it at some point, but for now, though, we've already got enough on our plate with the MMG article itself, alongside a few other things (mostly proposal related), so that'd probably be something we go after later. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 10:26, May 8, 2023 (EDT)
== [[Talk:Wario's Warehouse#Delete page and anything related to it from the wiki]] ==
Just letting you know I've updated the proposal with a new option: "Move page to the BJAODN archive and remove anything else related to it from the wiki". {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 16:15, May 27, 2023 (EDT)
== Recurring themes proposal changes ==
Hey, just a heads up that I amended my proposal about recurring themes that you voted for, so I would recommend you go take a look at it and make sure you still agree with it. I changed the proposal to clarify/reword some points, include a list of definitions of terms, and adjusted the standard regarding remakes to be more consistent in response to people’s comments. If you have any questions, feel free to ask! [[User:ToxicOJ|ToxicOJ]] ([[User talk:ToxicOJ|talk]]) 03:07, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
== Re: Oops! Proposal stuff ==
I'm kinda confused on what the question is. I voted in the proposal because I feel the page is unneeded because Hip Koopa is a recurring character and the shows he was in didn't last very long. [[User:TheUndescribableGhost|TheUndescribableGhost]] ([[User talk:TheUndescribableGhost|talk]]) 11:02, November 12, 2023 (EST)
: Okay, I am on board for it affecting other articles as well. [[User:TheUndescribableGhost|TheUndescribableGhost]] ([[User talk:TheUndescribableGhost|talk]]) 13:16, November 12, 2023 (EST)
== Feedback for cleaning up Category:Thieves ==
Hello! [[User talk:Swallow#Category:Thieves cleanup|Swallow and I are discussing a cleanup]] of [[:Category:Thieves]]. Mind sharing your feedback? You were a great help in cleaning up the lookalike categories! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 17:10, January 8, 2024 (EST)
:'''[[Category talk:Thieves#A dissection of the state of the category|Here ya go]]'''! 12k characters of category-analysis goodness. Hopefully we can move talk of what to do for the category over there now, since we've got the list there and all. ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 20:32, January 8, 2024 (EST)
::Thanks for your hard work again! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 20:52, January 8, 2024 (EST)
:::Just so you don't miss it, I updated my final comment in the talk page to further clarify my definition of "career thieves". [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 01:14, January 15, 2024 (EST)
== Wario's mother section on List of implied characters ==
Question does this piece of info that appears on the [[List of implied characters#Wario's mother|Wario's mother section of the List of implied characters article]] actually appear within [[Wario's Warehouse]] "Wario's Warehouse also states that Wario's mother perceives her son as so goofy that she never threw him a birthday party. Consequently, Wario does not know his age."<br><small>(unsigned by {{User|Jkgkffdfb}})</small>
: A very cursory search yields no results for "party" or "birthday", and "age" doesn't result in anything useful. This might be a fib, though admittedly, we're not the ones to ask on this, however--we're not exactly a massive authority on the Deep Wario's Warehouse Lore, and there's a very real chance we missed something in our cursory searches. We could confirm that the "he stole from his mom" line is 100% true however; just the first sentence of the ''Sonic Adventure 2: Battle'' section. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 11:57, January 28, 2024 (EST)
== In regards to the Smash category proposal ==
For clarification, was that solely for the series categories, or are the ''Smash'' redirects supposed to be de-categorized, period? (Like say, Charizard with category:Dragons and category:Fire creatures). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:10, March 1, 2024 (EST)
: While we'd ''like'' to do the latter at some point (albeit on a more broad scope than just the redirects that happened to be in the "series" subcategories), we made the proposals with the former in mind. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 21:38, March 1, 2024 (EST)
== Proposal cleaned up ==
I cleaned up [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Broaden the scope of the &lcub;&lcub;unreferenced&rcub;&rcub; template|my proposal]] by adding the <code><nowiki><pre></nowiki></code> tags. You should take a look at what the template will look like from above. What do you think how my proposal looks? {{User:GuntherBB/sig}} 21:02, March 30, 2024 (EDT)
== BJAODN page for the aliens ==
<s>Phew, finally free from that pink ape... Thanks for saving me!</s> I saw your [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki%3ABJAODN%2FCharacters&diff=prev&oldid=4165931 suggestion] on splitting the [[Alien (Club Nintendo)|Alien (''Club Nintendo'')]] entry on [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Characters]] into its own article as a cautionary tale, and I wholeheartedly agree with doing that!
I've copied the entry in question to [[User:SolemnStormcloud/Sandbox#MarioWiki:BJAODN/Alien (Club Nintendo)|my sandbox]], but I'd like to expand on this idea of yours before I think about launching this page. Regardless of infamy, I personally consider [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/In the Clouds]] too short to have its own page and ''may'' (don't count on it) start a proposal to merge it to the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Locations|Locations]] subpage. I allow anyone to edit my sandbox, so be my guest(s). [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 14:57, April 3, 2024 (EDT)
:Ah, we mentioned splitting it mostly so we could feature a before-and-after with it, rather than ''just'' its old incarnation; both as a cautionary tale, but also as a showcase of how even the most dubious of articles can be made into something more worthwhile and quality. We'd feel a little weird about writing that framing ourselves, though, as the people who fixed the article; so uh, if you want to take a shot at it yourself, be our guest! ;P {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 16:53, April 3, 2024 (EDT)
::I can't really think of how to write this framing, so I guess I'll just leave it as-is in the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Characters|Characters]] subpage. Thanks for the feedback, though! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 19:30, April 3, 2024 (EDT)
== Enacting proposal ==
I've been helping to enact your proposal for you. Many things are tagged for deletion, but hopefully this will help clear up to everyone what will be "pruned" from the wiki and what won't. Assist Trophy and Final Smash pages now have only ''Super Mario'' content, and the list pages have all of the ''Smash Bros.'' content (plus, I updated all of the redirects to the list pages accordingly). [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 17:59, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
: Wait, this is in regards to the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/65#Trim or remove various Smash franchise-specific subcategories|proposal about categories, correct]]? (''To be fair''--we meant to run proposals on slimming down the Final Smash page in particular, and we might do it for Assist Trophies as well. But the first proposal was specifically about the various "<x> series" categories being inundated with redirects to the exact same few List pages.) {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 19:45, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
:: Yes, it was that proposal of yours. I slimmed down the [[Assist Trophy]] and [[Final Smash]] articles to cover only ''Super Mario'' content, while [[List of Assist Trophy characters]] and [[List of Final Smashes]] has all of the content on it. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 19:53, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
::: Listen, we're tired, so maybe we're just misunderstanding, but if we have things right, uh, we might have a problem. The proposal was specifically about the categories listed in the proposal, and specifically, removing the various redirect articles from those categories (e.g. removing the [[Bonus Fruit]] redirect link from the [[:Category:Pac-Man series]] category) or, in the case of some categories that were either majority or all redirects, wiping the category clean (e.g. removing all of the instances of the [[:Category:Fatal Fury series]] category and, by proxy, wiping its description as it no longer has a use). In essence, the proposal was to clean up ''categories'', not the articles themselves--that was something we planned to hold a vote on later. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 20:03, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
:::: I didn't tag any articles for deletion, only the redirects and a few disambiguation pages not concerning the ''Super Mario'' franchise at all (e.g. Thunder Jolt). [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 20:10, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
::::: To state this in clearer terms--no ''articles'' should be deleted, so at least that's true. However, the categories mentioned as exceptions in that Proposal (Duck Hunt, Fire Emblem, Metroid, Kid Icarus, Pikmin, Punch-Out!!, Star Fox, Animal Crossing, Dragon Quest, Game & Watch, Final Fantasy, Ice Climber, The Legend of Zelda, Pac-Man, Rhythm Heaven, Sonic the Hedgehog, Splatoon, and Street Fighter) should've had all the redirects/disambiguations in them lose the Series categories, while all the redirects within the categories that were ''not'' exceptions (so, every other Category mentioned in the proposal's opening that wasn't a part of that list) should've had ''all'' articles that mention its category lose the category, and wipe the now-orphaned category description. The [[Final Smash]] and [[Assist Trophy]] articles were not mentioned in the proposal, thus, they shouldn't have been touched at all--not yet, anyways. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 20:18, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
== What was the main page design idea that you had? ==
I think you said you wanted to show in Paint.NET how you envisioned the explore/navigate cells looking in the proposed main page design. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 23:57, May 20, 2024 (EDT)
:Ah, shoot, it slipped our mind entirely. The past few days, we've kinda been tied up in something. (For today, it's mostly been wrestling a nasty tooth cavity.) We'd like to hopefully get around to it before the proposal ends, but admittedly, it's a pretty low priority for us...  {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 01:05, May 21, 2024 (EDT)
== Smash Bros. proposals ==
I think I'm going to stop doing ''Smash Bros.'' proposals, since you and the community here seem to have a better idea on how to handle ''Smash'' coverage.
Was going to say (and this is not at all directed at you) that the argument of "I don't like this wiki" (which I've seen someone say about SmashWiki in a proposal) should NEVER be an excuse to keep loosely or entirely unrelated content. It's also selfish when considering that are more dedicated wikis that could really use the help with such content, especially NintendoWiki, and the right course of action was moving the Memory Card page over to there. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 14:32, June 5, 2024 (EDT)
==Vandal interactions==
Hey, thanks for reverting the vandal, but please don't talk to them in the summaries with insults. This is from someone on last warn for making this mistake; just leave the edit summary blank. {{User:Somethingone/sig}} 17:07, June 7, 2024 (EDT)
:Aye, fair enough. <s>though also, admittedly, we doubt many people are going to swing to bat at a vandal that made exactly 4 edits,</s> {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 17:08, June 7, 2024 (EDT)
::Yah, just affirming what Somethingone said. But no worries, either of you. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:29, June 7, 2024 (EDT)
== ''Superstar Saga'' gear ==
Nintendo101 showed me that the PRIMA guide tells where everything is found [https://archive.org/details/marioluigisuperstarsagaofficialplayersguide_201912/page/n125/mode/2up on these pages]. Granted, they might incorrectly say some unused things are unobtainable, but I see no reason not to assume the "found at the store at this specific point" ones are accurate. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:34, January 25, 2025 (EST)
:Thanks for the pointer, much appreciated! If you have a similar guide for the remake, that would also be nice; the remake is surprisingly under-documented, it turns out, which is what spurred this whole thing for us. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 15:38, January 25, 2025 (EST)
::The gear page for the remake is actually pretty well-described on that front, last I checked. I don't believe an official guide was made for it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:52, January 25, 2025 (EST)
== Hi! ==
Is the Claire in this group my best friend? -Rowan ([[User:XXMeta KnightmareXX|XXMeta KnightmareXX]] ([[User talk:XXMeta KnightmareXX|talk]]) 14:34, February 17, 2025 (EST))

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